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I have had the ultimate in crappy battery life since day one with my Vibrant. I have tried reconditioning, task killers, freezing apps, etc., etc. Very minimal gains and, in some cases, worse battery life. These things were draining just sitting on our pockets.
Here's where it gets weird. My wife also has a Samsung Vibrant and was getting the same horrible battery life. We were both charging dead Vibrants half way through the day. Granted, we are both moderate to heavy users but I expected more. A week ago, my wife was still sitting at 80% by lunch time while I was looking at 27%. Huh? I asked her what she did and she had no idea except that she had downloaded a battery monitoring app the day before. I thought it made no sense that this could have anything to do with it so I brushed it off. Over the next few days she was still getting killer battery life throughout the day.
So....I decided to give it a shot just to be sure it wasn't that app. Well, just before bedtime, my battery was it 7%. I downloaded the battery app, plugged in my Vibrant and hit the hay. By noon the next day I was still over 80% I have no idea why but I know it's working for both of us and it has to have something to do with this app.
I'm no programmer and I certainly have no vested interested in any android apps. We just stumbled on this and it works. Would anyone out there have a clue why?
I'm not sure if posting the name of the app breaks any xda rules so I'll wait.
Ever since i've been on JK2 Froyo my battery life has been excellent. But i'm interested in hearing which app you're talking about
Castle5665 said:
I have had the ultimate in crappy battery life since day one with my Vibrant. I have tried reconditioning, task killers, freezing apps, etc., etc. Very minimal gains and, in some cases, worse battery life. These things were draining just sitting on our pockets.
Here's where it gets weird. My wife also has a Samsung Vibrant and was getting the same horrible battery life. We were both charging dead Vibrants half way through the day. Granted, we are both moderate to heavy users but I expected more. A week ago, my wife was still sitting at 80% by lunch time while I was looking at 27%. Huh? I asked her what she did and she had no idea except that she had downloaded a battery monitoring app the day before. I thought it made no sense that this could have anything to do with it so I brushed it off. Over the next few days she was still getting killer battery life throughout the day.
So....I decided to give it a shot just to be sure it wasn't that app. Well, just before bedtime, my battery was it 7%. I downloaded the battery app, plugged in my Vibrant and hit the hay. By noon the next day I was still over 80% I have no idea why but I know it's working for both of us and it has to have something to do with this app.
I'm no programmer and I certainly have no vested interested in any android apps. We just stumbled on this and it works. Would anyone out there have a clue why?
I'm not sure if posting the name of the app breaks any xda rules so I'll wait.
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I don't believe nothing is wrong with posting the name of an app. If it helps, then why not?
Yeah dude hook it up
Still flashing , thanks to odin & tw
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I don't believe nothing is wrong with posting the name of an app. If it helps, then why not?
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I agree. I just didn't want to be seen as peddling a product here.
It's called BatteryTime. It's free although, I believe there is a pay version. I didn't adjust any settings. Just installed it, charged over night and I can't believe the difference nor understand why it made such a huge difference. I unplugged 4 hours ago and have 98%. Still a mystery to me but I'm not complaining.
There's like 4 of the same app on the market x)
What is the full name?
OH and thanks, I installed it, I'll report back with results.
draikz said:
There's like 4 of the same app on the market x)
What is the full name?
OH and thanks, I installed it, I'll report back with results.
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Just Looked again and you're right. There are 4 versions there. I'm currently using the "BatteryTime Lite" version.
The only thing that I can think of to rationalize this huge difference is that the battery percentage was being reported incorrectly before. I may have had a charge that would last all day or longer but it was displaying an accelerated discharge rate which would kill my Vibrant prematurely. For one reason or another, this app appears to have corrected that and the indicator is (I hope) reporting the correct battery life now.
Does that make any sense?
Castle5665 said:
The only thing that I can think of to rationalize this huge difference is that the battery percentage was being reported incorrectly before. I may have had a charge that would last all day or longer but it was displaying an accelerated discharge rate which would kill my Vibrant prematurely. For one reason or another, this app appears to have corrected that and the indicator is (I hope) reporting the correct battery life now.
Does that make any sense?
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Thanks for sharing. I will give it a try.
Update:
I found this somewhat disappointing. I rebooted my phone for the first time in about a week and on boot up the indicator is displaying significant drain again. I was at 96% before boot and 56% after? I'm going to recharge to full again and see if I still enjoy the same battery life.
Now I'm really confused. Sent an email to developer.
judging by the app description and most of the comments - the app doesn't actually *do* anything. It merely reports the battery differently.
No amount of software will change how much charge a battery can hold. The only thing that's different is how it's being reported.
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judging by the app description and most of the comments - the app doesn't actually *do* anything. It merely reports the battery differently.
No amount of software will change how much charge a battery can hold. The only thing that's different is how it's being reported.
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Indeed, and that was my point to begin with. Originally, the battery indicator reported as critically low in no more than 6 hours. Soon after, the phone would shutdown until put on the charger. With this app I am able to get through the day reporting roughly 30% at bedtime around 10pm. Of course, that is subject to change on a reboot....until fully charged again. This is the mystery.
Yeah, there is funky stuff going on with battery meters. One that is included with the Obsidian Roms is Battery Left, currently, this is showing a 50% charge and 10:19 left. Next to it is Juice Plotter which is showing 21h 11m left. According to the system, i am at 71% Power and it has been unplugged for 6 hours. From experience, I know that the 21h remaining is actually accurate and Battery Left is completely dorked.
The point being, you can't always trust the battery meter.
So I installed a monitor also to try and figure out what was killing my battery 30+% over night and I had the same reaction....I woke up to a 10% loss. I realized what is probably happening is since this app is monitoring the phone all night...whatever app is draining the battery is probably a daemon that only runs when the CPU goes really idle for a certain period of time. More than likely that app inadvertently gave you better battery life because it runs in the foreground and marks your phone as being active so whatever app was killing battery never ran.
Castle5665 said:
The only thing that I can think of to rationalize this huge difference is that the battery percentage was being reported incorrectly before. I may have had a charge that would last all day or longer but it was displaying an accelerated discharge rate which would kill my Vibrant prematurely. For one reason or another, this app appears to have corrected that and the indicator is (I hope) reporting the correct battery life now.
Does that make any sense?
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I think you've hit the nail on the head. Since day one, I have had buggy battery reporting. For instance, if I reboot the phone while it is plugged in, the reported battery level changes dramatically.
Edit: your later post supports this idea even further.
I installed this on my phone. This program does not attempt to save battery life or control anything on your phone. It does offers "Tips" to save battery life. Its main purpose is to indicate, based on your current level of charge, how long your battery should last given different circumstances - ex. idle, talk time, video time, audio time, etc... Thus the name BatteryTime.
That's all that it does. Any perception of a longer lasting battery may have been an anomaly as does happen sometimes with our phones. One day you'll seem to be getting awesome battery life (and there is likely an underlying reason which we'll never figure out, but which jives with the battery) and the next day it is back to draining quickly as normal.
There are three certainties in life: death, taxes, and posts about battery life in smart phone forums.
Anyone have the issue where they charge the phone overnight, the phone reads 100% in the morning, you unplug it and you are immediately down to 7% battery? It seems to happen to me at least twice per week. It is a terrible bug.
i dont get it you said that before the battery wasnt being read correctly so it shut off fast but now with the app it reads correctly and last you the whole day with 30% left to spare?? wouldnt that technically mean it increased battery because you got it to last all day plus some? just by making the phone read the battery correctly.
My phone is 1h30m out of the charges and at 78% battery level, out of those 68% is "phone idle". What is exactly "phone idle" and why it eats so much battery where name suggests on it's own that it shall not be using any battery since it's "idle"
artisticcheese said:
My phone is 1h30m out of the charges and at 78% battery level, out of those 68% is "phone idle". What is exactly "phone idle" and why it eats so much battery where name suggests on it's own that it shall not be using any battery since it's "idle"
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I am having a similar issue. On 2.3.4 HKTW with Faux kernel, battery mod and Battery level fix. Phone Idle is draining the battery.
jiggytom said:
I am having a similar issue. On 2.3.4 HKTW with Faux kernel, battery mod and Battery level fix. Phone Idle is draining the battery.
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Do you have a feeling this started happening after "battery fix"? I feel like it started happening since I install fix yesterday.
I had the same problem, both before and after the battery fix. I cant get my atrix to last 12 hours with light use before its crying to be charged. Just installed the battery fix and Ninja rom last night; ill give that a try and see how it goes.
Man guys, I'm just rooted, and running the latest stock rom, and I'm amazed at how awesome the battery life is. I can go for almost a day and a half. I do most of my rss feed reading on my phone, and I tend to go for hour long jogs with it strapped to my arm running gps.
Maybe my usage model has something to do with it. When I'm not running, I'm either at home or at work, where I connect to wifi. That might have something to do with my stellar battery performance.
i have the same problem it started yesterday well noticed it yesterday
i went with the new recovery and after a bad install of ninja
installed the new cherryblur I had a problem with the new recovery wipeing user data and had to reinstall after a wipe with fastboot. dont know what the problem is.
artisticcheese said:
My phone is 1h30m out of the charges and at 78% battery level, out of those 68% is "phone idle". What is exactly "phone idle" and why it eats so much battery where name suggests on it's own that it shall not be using any battery since it's "idle"
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i had exactly the same issue with Kenn´s rom and Faux kernel...
after a week testing with everything i can tell you that the guilty was the Kernel.
Flash again the rom that you have been using but do not install that kernel.
Cheers!
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i had exactly the same issue with Kenn´s rom and Faux kernel...
after a week testing with everything i can tell you that the guilty was the Kernel.
Flash again the rom that you have been using but do not install that kernel.
Cheers!
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sounds like a good place to start. ill give it a go!
edit: this mornig i set my set cpu profile to the lowest setting while screen is off ond just notices phone idle is down to 45%
ill post back if i have more data
The less you are physically using your phone, the higher the percentage of usage Phone Idle will have. Typically, for a normal user Phone Idle will ALWAYS be the highest usage.
Diviance said:
The less you are physically using your phone, the higher the percentage of usage Phone Idle will have. Typically, for a normal user Phone Idle will ALWAYS be the highest usage.
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this is true. if your not using anything else to drain your battery something will always show up on the list. say you lost 20% of battery in 4 hrs. you have had it sleeping the whole time. well that list looks at what applications have been running so it builds a list on what took out the 20% so if you didnt do anything phone idle would have taken say 78% of the 20% of battery you lost. it doesnt mean its draining your battery more then normal. it means it was the only thing to drain the battery at all. followed by display, android system etc....
International user here with 2.3.4 ORANGEFR. After flashing edgan's kernel my battery issues are pretty much gone. I undervolted as much as I could. At 70% battery right now with 8 hours of moderate use.
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The less you are physically using your phone, the higher the percentage of usage Phone Idle will have. Typically, for a normal user Phone Idle will ALWAYS be the highest usage.
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That's fine but the problem (see original post) that despite low usage I do have big battery drain and in this case "idle" is in fact appears to be eating 2/3 of it.
I'm in the orange already after little use today and i've only been unplugged for 6hours. I just flashed GB on friday.
Normally I would suggest installing the app Spare Parts to monitor which apps run the heaviest while the phone is supposed to be sleeping...however, on the Gingerbread ROMs, Spare Parts can't show you those stats anymore...very unfortunate.
but spare parts+ can
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That's fine but the problem (see original post) that despite low usage I do have big battery drain and in this case "idle" is in fact appears to be eating 2/3 of it.
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you never post what android version you are using, im assuming HKTW on ATT atrix? i had the same problem with that build, its full of problems. dont bother installing apps to try to figure out what is draining your battery, its the build itself it is known to have battery issues. theres def a problem if the phone is using 22% on just 1.5h of idle. there's no fix for it. install either ken's gingerbread rom or one of the other roms based on ATT 2.3.4. theres no battery issues with those
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you never post what android version you are using, im assuming HKTW on ATT atrix? i had the same problem with that build, its full of problems. dont bother installing apps to try to figure out what is draining your battery, its the build itself it is known to have battery issues. theres def a problem if the phone is using 22% on just 1.5h of idle. there's no fix for it. install either ken's gingerbread rom or one of the other roms based on ATT 2.3.4. theres no battery issues with those
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Well, no REAL battery issues. The meter still jumps around wildly unless you have the fix installed if you are using the 1% mod. So you can reboot and suddenly have 20-40% more battery than before.
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That's fine but the problem (see original post) that despite low usage I do have big battery drain and in this case "idle" is in fact appears to be eating 2/3 of it.
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Have you done the battery fix for the GB ROMs? Without it, the drain is reported as being more than it really is.
Have you set up a more conservative profile under the battery management (or wherever the hell it is)?? With light usage, change your settings there to be less performance based, since you apparently don't need it.
And as previously stated...SOMETHING will use your battery. That will either be idle, or Angry Birds. If you aren't using apps, the browser, etc...then idle consumes battery. Use your phone more...or adjust your profile settings to be much more conservative (including turning data off after a shorter time period).
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Well, no REAL battery issues. The meter still jumps around wildly unless you have the fix installed if you are using the 1% mod. So you can reboot and suddenly have 20-40% more battery than before.
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this is a very minor problem that doesnt effect battery life as in it doesnt shorten battery life. it jumps up after reboot but if you use it for a while it will jump back down on its own. there is also a fix that works so its not an issue anymore.
I'm using Kenneth ROM with default kernel. Idle is still top consumer ( more then screen for example). I did not do battery calibration but will do now but I don't think this will fix the issue.
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SGS Vibrant flashed with Trigger 3.2 the battery lasts for 1 day with wifi usage and even if kept for overnight it drains about 18-20% of battery should i move to a different ROM ?
You could
Sent from a cell tower to the XDA server to you.
Trigger has had one of the best all time battery life for me a everytime.
I think you need to
A) recalibrate
B) re-check to see if any apps are using battery life.
C) flash a rom if none of that works.
Here we go again for the millionth time.....
But for me trigger had the best battery life.
I'm not on the gingerbread roms and it takes me from 100% to 5% in 8 hours overnight even WITH Juicedefender (seems to be about the same without it also).
If anyone has tips on THAT, I would much appreciate it. I've tried calibrating the battery.
There is a setting that you can turn your radios of from x time to x time overnight. I have mine set for 11-6. If I am on after 11, then I take priority. If not then the setting does.
There is also a setting that will open data/radio every 15m/30m/45m/1h/2h or something like that to get updates for somethings (i.e. Beautiful Widgets). I have mine set at 2h. If I want my data/radio open I will do it myself, hence my long interval.
Been using this app for well over a year so I know how to tweak it a bunch. If you have JD+ see my battery guide and it will tell you more about its tweakiness.
Trust me. This guy knows how to use JD, check out his battery guide. It will be worth your time.
Sent from my SGH-T959 (Samsung Vibrant)
i wish i could get my phone to last a whole day without charging, i just dont complain because i know for a FACT that the reason my phone only lasts 10-12 hours is because of ME. im too stubborn and refuse to switch to battery-friendly usage. the biggest thing that impacts battery is the user/user apps. not rom, not kernel, the battery difference from rom-to-rom and kernl-to-kernel is barely noticeable (unless in the rare case where there is a bug, or developmental defect). if there was ACTUALLY a rom in exsistence that TRULY had superior battery life, then you wouldnt get 5-10 different answers in every single "what is best rom/kernel for battery" thread.
the problem is, people want to believe that they can save battery without changing their usage habits. this simply is not possible. no rom or kernel will realistically do this for you. if you remove 1 brick from a bag full of 15 bricks, the bag will be lighter, but still very heavy. you need to download "spare parts" or "process monitor" from the market and start analyzing the way your apps are acting. also look into data syncs that are happening in the background. apps that stay open behind your back/what they are doing, (an app called "autostarts" can prevent apps from self-running under certain scenarios). animation speed. polling for notifications. gps. wifi scans. overclocking. cpu/ram usage. proper sleep. widgets. brightness. 2g/3g. data usage. call time. text volume. - THESE are the things that really affect your battery life.
bottom line is, if you truly want to save battery you are going to have to get your hands dirty...there simply isnt a one-click (or one-flash) solution.
Hmm so i'm now on MIUI and it seems to be giving better battery life, also have been thinking of getting the extended battery for Vibrant is it worth ?
If it sucks so bad, grab one of these. I have it and it has given me at least a 20% increase in battery life. BTW, you must listen to the instruction for the Battery if you get it. 4 or 5 full Drains to 0% and then charge to 100% while device is powered off and re-calibrate after each of these full charge cycles.
http://www.amazon.com/Anker-1800mAh...TNYE/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1325868638&sr=8-3
switch to Neo's ICS .
it rocks
Cellanos said:
switch to Neo's ICS .
it rocks
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But the gps doesn't work on it correct?
What about the extended battery which is around 3500Mah
I just got the 1800 mah batteries for the Epic 4g. They fit in the vibrant like a glove and my battery life has been significantly lengthened.
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Winning
dinjo_jo said:
Hmm so i'm now on MIUI and it seems to be giving better battery life, also have been thinking of getting the extended battery for Vibrant is it worth ?
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For the past week my phone has had an average of 7 hours of use. It's not even heavy use! I used to be able to go 13 or 14 hours before it was close to dying, now it gets near to 7 hours before I have to plug in. I got a new battery and put it in, but I'm getting the same results. I know you can't really tell much from battery logs and screen shots, but I've attached those in case. I lost root with the last OTA, so I can't use the Wakelock Detector. I have no idea what's causing it besides "Android System". Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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For the past week my phone has had an average of 7 hours of use. It's not even heavy use! I used to be able to go 13 or 14 hours before it was close to dying, now it gets near to 7 hours before I have to plug in. I got a new battery and put it in, but I'm getting the same results. I know you can't really tell much from battery logs and screen shots, but I've attached those in case. I lost root with the last OTA, so I can't use the Wakelock Detector. I have no idea what's causing it besides "Android System". Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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I understand your frustration and would like to help. First do you use your screen brightness. Do you keep sync on constantly or have a app like juice defender that will do it for you? Have you checked all of your apps to see if any act strange? I know this is a lot if ?s but I don't have your phone. We can do this. You said your not rooted did you Odin the stock firmware before taking the ota? You have a new battery is it samsungs? Or is it a different brand? Have you calibrated the battery or deleted the battery bin file? Have you factory reset at all in a long time? Do you do the battery saving tips like dim screen power save mode to get extra juice? When you get up your phone is 100% and in 7 hours of use needs recharging. Is that with moderate use or heavy use gaming or do you get a but load of twitter notifications ect. I saw on the photo twitter notifications constantly getting those can do a number I keep sync off. I don't know if there are any known bugs in 4.4.4. I had to root do to 4.4.2 for 4.3 because of poor battery life I was in the same boat.
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I changed from Note 3 to s 6 edge plus recently
The battery drops 5% per hour overnight when not in use. If I go to bed with less than 40% battery at night I am sure to wake up with my phone switched off in the morning.
When in use with screen on, the battery drips one percent every two minutes. This is the worst battery life I have ever seen in a phone. I was a long loyal customer of samsung and this is my last samsung phone ever.
Extremely disappointed
Please post your battery stats ? so we can have a better understanding of your problem. I suggest you install 'Doze' which should stop unnecessary apps from connecting to the internet and causing your phone to awake from deep sleep.
Dear Akbar 11
Heres the battery stats....is it normal?
I had the same issue, and as far as I managed to find out, it is a bug in Samsung's kernel. Flashing Arter97 kernel solved the issue for, but do post battery stats from SmartManager. If it says 'Android' or 'Android OS', then you have the same problem many of us do.
I don't think it's a kernel problem. My android OS is very low 4%. Like zoolok said post your battery stats from settings, battery, battery usage
I have the same problem. Battery was great before I flash custom rom. After going back to stock I have big battery draining. I must stay on custom rom. With Audax rom and Skyhigh kernel i have great battery life.
You have either messed up something big or you have an app in the background that is eating up your battery like no tomorrow.
And the reason i say that is because i recently got this battery life on my Galaxy S6 edge+.
And this was taken 2 days ago.
Here i use the CRISSCROSS ROM, AudaxPro Kernel, Greeinify and Samsung's own 'Appoptimizing' feature (same as Doze in Android 6.0).
So my battery life is pretty awesome.
i have problem whit battery lose 25% when i sleep
This is a usual day with s6 edge plus
Any help?
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i have this problem battery ... if u fixed it tell me how?
Well I was expecting Google Play Services to be eating your battery (which is quite common) but it looks like your Andriod OS is eating the most battery. I would uninstall Facebook and use the web version it always helps with the ram and battery furthermore, turn off location if you are not using it and check accounts which are being synced. These are the only tips I can give you as I have never seen Android OS drain so much battery.
Since a few days Google Play Store is eating up my battery: I go to sleep with 100% batt and wake up with 50%, if I check batt stats on top I have play store at 45%, with 5h active a d 2h of CPU.
Follows Android system at 5%.
Going crazy why...
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This is a usual day with s6 edge plus
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You've charged your phone 4 times during that day. I can't see what's the interesting part here.