Moto X vs. the Gnex - Moto X General

Is it just me or does the Moto X feel very reminiscent of the Samsung G-nex?

I think so, too. The GNex, to me, definitely feels better than my N4, recently sold S4 and every other phone I've owned. I wish the X didn't have such sharp edges though and because that it comes in second for comfort. I will never get rid my GNex... ever.
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You mean in hand or something? I don't really think so given its a bit smaller and the gnex was pretty plasticy.
The shape being rounded corners and such seems to be the one similarity
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sleepyguy007 said:
You mean in hand or something? I don't really think so given its a bit smaller and the gnex was pretty plasticy.
The shape being rounded corners and such seems to be the one similarity
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yea... the shape and form factor. the materials build is worlds different of course..

I meant the form factor also, not a fan of so much plastic. Although I must say my GNex is put together better than two S3s and an S4 I've owned, tight fitting and responsive buttons.
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Infekxion said:
I think so, too. The GNex, to me, definitely feels better than my N4, recently sold S4 and every other phone I've owned. I wish the X didn't have such sharp edges though and because that it comes in second for comfort. I will never get rid my GNex... ever.
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Sharp edges? You sure it's the Moto X you're talking about?
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Sharp edges? You sure it's the Moto X you're talking about?
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Yea could be certain ways I hold it but the bottom corners dig into my palms, not a big deal because I love this phone.
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I think it does. The look and feel of it is almost like the natural evolution of the galaxy nexus. I love my new moto x

Gnex is much more comfortable to hold if you have large hands, comparing with moto x
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It reminds me of the galaxy Nexus a little but I love this phone sooooo much more than my Nexus.
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Is it just me or does the Moto X feel very reminiscent of the Samsung G-nex?
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Yeah, but one where everything actually works, it will actually play good games, the battery doesn't suck, and my data is constantly connected.
So actually no, not really.
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remicks said:
Yeah, but one where everything actually works, it will actually play good games, the battery doesn't suck, and my data is constantly connected.
So actually no, not really.
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This^^^^
Lol the gnex is the reason I left Verizon. They gave me like 5 gnexs lemons. Never had reception or battery life screens always developed dead pixels. When the nexus 4 came out I I ended my contract early along with my unlimited plan and went to T-Mobile and have had no regrets.
They do look similar though. Probably overall footprint is close.
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Yeah, but one where everything actually works, it will actually play good games, the battery doesn't suck, and my data is constantly connected.
So actually no, not really.
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^^^^^^ LOL

remicks said:
Yeah, but one where everything actually works, it will actually play good games, the battery doesn't suck, and my data is constantly connected.
So actually no, not really.
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Haha same here.
My first gnex had some issue with LTE radio. Second one was OK but it ate batteries like crazy.
Camera was terrible . at least the moto x is somewhat OK. Only thing really similar is the screen size
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sleepyguy007 said:
Haha same here.
My first gnex had some issue with LTE radio. Second one was OK but it ate batteries like crazy.
Camera was terrible . at least the moto x is somewhat OK. Only thing really similar is the screen size
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Yea my first one was flawless but then it stopped charging. Plus I'm on an employee plan so I dont qualify for getting a different device after x amount of replacements. 7 devices later finally upgraded to a note 2 and a DNA
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Is it worth a full price upgrade from a Verizon Galaxy Nexus? Full price to retain unlimited data.

I had the Verizon GNex... absolutely horrible experience. The Moto X is leaps and bounds beyond anything that came before it, especially the GNex.
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The outside edge of the gnex is so dam sturdy. It's not metal but I put that phone thru more than any other and it never broke. Best tank phone I've ever had hands down.
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I loved my Gnex, maybe I just had good luck. It did fine for me. I upgraded to the Motox because my Gnex was feeling a little dated.
After using it for a few weeks, holding my wife's Gnex feels gigantic.
I'm very happy with my purchase... But I was happy with my toro as well.
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I've been saying this on both tech shows I host. I upgraded from a galaxy nexus on Verizon. My other choices were the s4 and the HTC 1. I was in love with the gnex curve and form factor / size and the moto x is exactly that. If the gnex was made with better materials it might have felt as good as the moto x does in the hand. Maybe it's because the gnex is a bit outdated hardware wise, but the moto x seems so much faster and more smooth. I seriously love this phone. For my use case, it's perfect. The only thing I'm worried about is getting updates. Verizon sucks at updating devices, so I'm curious when we'll finally get 4.3.
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Buy Nexus 4 to replace One X?

Should I buy the nexus 4 to replace my one x? or should I spend double and buy the One or S4 nexus experience when they come out?
Do whatever you want. If money is not an issue then go with HTC or Samsung. Most likely users over here will tell you to get the Nexus 4. If you enjoyed the HTC experience then get the One. If you want to try something new, get the S4. Otherwise get the Nexus 4.
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You're asking a question that there is no right answer for.
Everyone here has a great point, but you go with the nexus 4 it's still a great phone. ^_^
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I came from the one x to the nexus 4 and for me it feels like quite a big step up
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Same for me. I switched from one x couple of weeks ago. Yesterday I took out the one x and was struck with the difference of many things! Build quality the most Go for the N4.
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If you want stock android why spend the extra money on a HTC One or GS4 with stock android when you can get the Nexus 4 at half the price.
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If you want stock android why spend the extra money on a HTC One or GS4 with stock android when you can get the Nexus 4 at half the price.
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Not completely true, the hardware of the S4 is great and the camera, screen, speaker and screensize are better than the N4 imo. Its the crappy and bloated software by Samsung that cripples the phone atm. I had the S4 for a week and sold it because of the lags and stutters, the camera and screen are very very good.
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Not completely true, the hardware of the S4 is great and the camera, screen, speaker and screensize are better than the N4 imo. Its the crappy and bloated software by Samsung that cripples the phone atm. I had the S4 for a week and sold it because of the lags and stutters, the camera and screen are very very good.
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Not the screen. No matter how high the resolution is, and how ridiculous the pixel density, nothing makes up for the unbearable oversaturation of AMOLED displays If I were to go for a new phone (although I probably won't for at least a year and a half) I'd actually go for the HTC One right now, not the S4. As for which to choose out of the three options, it ultimately comes down IMO to whether you need more than 16GB of storage. If you don't need more, then there aren't really any significant benefits of the next-gen phones over the N4. Otherwise, get the HTC One.
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Not the screen. No matter how high the resolution is, and how ridiculous the pixel density, nothing makes up for the unbearable oversaturation of AMOLED displays If I were to go for a new phone (although I probably won't for at least a year and a half) I'd actually go for the HTC One right now, not the S4.
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I found the S4 screen much less oversaturated than the S3 or Note2 and the colors in pictures looked very natural to me
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I found the S4 screen much less oversaturated than the S3 or Note2 and the colors in pictures looked very natural to me
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Ah really? Fair enough then, I can't stand the S3's display compared to a calibrated N4.
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Ah really? Fair enough then, I can't stand the S3's display compared to a calibrated N4.
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True, the colors on the S3 we`re too `colored`for me as well,
Honestly, i'd wait for the next nexus. The one x is still a pretty good phone and should hold up till then but its your choice.
nazem said:
Honestly, i'd wait for the next nexus. The one x is still a pretty good phone and should hold up till then but its your choice.
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Well from graduation I got about $1800 and don't know what to spend it on. I've been wanting to buy a different phone so I'm just stuck between them all
I know they're the same size but the one screen just seems tiny compared to nexus plus that black bar for some apps is annoying as hell. Running PA with pie is awesome on nexus it gives a full screen experience
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Htc is a junk. N4 is a world better. I also went from one x. Never regret it
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Wait for the next nexus.
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Htc is a junk. N4 is a world better. I also went from one x. Never regret it
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I just can say that I totally agree with you, sir.
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Wait for the next nexus.
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^This. Totally.
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Just buy the N4, slap a custom kernel on it for good batterylife and color control and sell the N4 in November/December for the N5. Waiting is pointless, we`re human so who can be 100% sure that he/she will still be alive tomorrow

from an s4 to a moto x

I started at&t services five days ago and i procured an s4. when i buy a phone i like to think of what it can do now and not what it could do after rooting. in fact, i havent rooted any of my personal phones in almost a year or so.
immediately i felt just how cheap the s4 felt, and slippery. the screen was beautiful though. battery life was great too. i couldnt get over the software hiccups, all the at&t AND samsung bloat and the almost square pics that the 13mp camera provided (when in 13mp mode). if i were to open my app drawer and fling the pages around i was on occasion greeted with lag. i couldnt stick with a phone for two years that performed like this, my previous phone was an htc one on tmobile that didnt lag at all.
so i decided to exchange the phone, i didnt want another one, that phone was great but it just charged so slow, and to a heavy user/ ingress player; its a bane. so i grabbed a moto x. have had it for almost two or three days now. no regrets so far. the display is amazing, i can notice small jaggies when holding the x about 5 inches from my face. battery life is slightly better than the s4. gps is spot on, so is my compass ive noticed. build quality is great too. camera, out in a sunny day does amazing! low light situations has me usually retaking the pic every now and then. speakers are awesome too, not as loud as the ones, but good enough.
over all, i dont miss the s4 at all and i dont regret my purchase. the value adds really do make this device worth its price. while i was typing this i have "ok google now" a few times. its touchless features is a god send in the car too
How is the 4g signal compared to the S4?
I did the same thing except on Verizon and don't miss the s4 at all. I came from a gnex and the moto x feels perfect. Nearly stock optimized android plus you can actually hold the phone in one hand.
How is the 4g signal compared to the S4?
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How is the 4g signal compared to the S4?
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Seems the same to me
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I too switched from an s4 to the moto x I am highly impressed with the moto x, I'm considering selling my s4 now
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I too switched from an s4 to the moto x I am highly impressed with the moto x, I'm considering selling my s4 now
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I sold my S4 to my father. This phone is just about perfect.
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I did the same thing. I got rid of my S4 and I'm loving this phone. The size is so much better and it fells much more solid. The switch back down to a 720p resolution didn't really make a difference. My only complaint is the camera and it seems that we have updates coming to improve the performance.
For the s4 to moto x guys would you say the text is just as readable or better because the moto x is 720 p?
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For the s4 to moto x guys would you say the text is just as readable or better because the moto x is 720 p?
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I think it's just as readable but the S4 is a bit nicer.
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I went from the ONE to the S4 to the z10 just to try it...
I love this phone its so much nicer than my s4 was.. Happy I made the switch
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I have also recently switched from the S4 to the Moto X. So far, absolutely no regrets. The activate notifications are so intuitive, and after about a week and a half I still feel like i'm performing a magic trick when I use touchless control. I believe this phone was specifically made to show that the latest and greatest specs aren't needed to have great performance on a phone.
You guys are fueling my decision to switch. I want to so bad.... you all are saying its worth it I hope so
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niezek said:
You guys are fueling my decision to switch. I want to so bad.... you all are saying its worth it I hope so
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Yeah, that's what we're saying - do it!
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Yeah, that's what we're saying - do it!
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Might do it today.
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rcklss1 said:
I went from the ONE to the S4 to the z10 just to try it...
I love this phone its so much nicer than my s4 was.. Happy I made the switch
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What's the best part of the phone for you? I've used all the above at one point or another and still have the One. The S4 was way to gimmicky for me and the Z10 just doesn't have the necessary apps for my everyday activities.
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niezek said:
You guys are fueling my decision to switch. I want to so bad.... you all are saying its worth it I hope so
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I will be going to Verizon after work to switch over, it seems that most of the people that are talking about it are very satisfied with the X.
Well I switched so far so good I just have to get used to the smaller screen.
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What's the best part of the phone for you? I've used all the above at one point or another and still have the One. The S4 was way to gimmicky for me and the Z10 just doesn't have the necessary apps for my everyday activities.
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I will be going to Verizon after work to switch over, it seems that most of the people that are talking about it are very satisfied with the X.
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For me its the size and closer to stock than any other besides a nexus..I've owned a ton of android phones besides the ones mentioned lol including the nexus s and nexus 4 but they are too plain... The s4 had way too many gimmicks that frankly didn't work that well IMO.. And battery life absolutely sucked on that phone for me... Z10 I loved but my key banking apps ( even with sideloading (which was unreliable to to begin with) were still missing android libs and still didnt work) and the fact the maps app completely skipped over businesses close to me when I searched that was it for me... The one was an awesome phone but I went through two of them that the camera would just freeze and cause the camera to crash over and over again...
So here I am lol.... When I was on Verizon I loved the Motorola DROID line and have been looking for a good offering from them on AT&T and finally have it
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I any to Verizon and picked up the X and I'll spend the weekend trying to get use to it. Ironically, my wife picked up the G2 while I was at worked. This will be interesting.
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Cool I think you'll be happy with it..
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What would stop you getting an LG G2?

Now that they dropped the price to
99 bucks everywhere, I'm interested to know if anyone would consider getting one? I'm still within my 14 day grace period and I'm seriously considering it.
I'm really not totally happy with the motox camera if I'm honest and there's a lot to like about the LG.
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Be leery of that rear button if you carry it in your pocket. I have already received a few calls regarding it stopping working.
Imprinted directly to your mind via a Moto X
That's the thing that worries me, although spec wise it trumps a lot of phones.
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too big of a screen. moto x is the sweet spot for me.
I returned G2 and got Moto X because:
Knock knock doesn't always work.
Camera at night sucks if the object moves at all.
Screen is a little too sensitive at times.
Lg UI is so heavy that it makes that beast of a processor cry at times, pretty laggy IMHO.
I held Moto X and it hit all the sweet spots from size to speed and active display and other features are reliable. It's hard to beat Motorola quality. Camera is pretty decent since upgrade. Overall, moto x is a better package if I may say.
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Too big. Same with the Nexus
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I hear you guys. I do really like the form factor of the motox. I guess I need to give it some time and love. I think I may have been spoiled with the camera on my SGS3 previously. My photos really don't seem as good. It's a shame.
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The chances of getting KitKat. Moto X and G2 are the same price with contract now. The chances of you getting kitkat on the G2 by this year and on Verizon is very slim. Unlike the moto X where leaked builds are already coming in.
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The chances of getting KitKat. Moto X and G2 are the same price with contract now. The chances of you getting kitkat on the G2 by this year and on Verizon is very slim. Unlike the moto X where leaked builds are already coming in.
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There was a rumor in the G2 section that stated 4.4 wouldn't be released till mid January since LG is supposedly going to redo its whole UI. Add a month to that for Verizon and yeah...
Just a rumor but something to think about. I'm aiming to get the Moto X in a 32GB flavor. Leaning towards the dev edition but it's hard passing up an opportunity to be able to use motomaker on vzw.
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Now that they dropped the price to
99 bucks everywhere, I'm interested to know if anyone would consider getting one? I'm still within my 14 day grace period and I'm seriously considering it.
I'm really not totally happy with the motox camera if I'm honest and there's a lot to like about the LG.
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I just bought an lg g2 for sprint yesterday just have to wait until it gets here, trying to sell my moto x as we speak. Moto x is not a bad phone at all it really grew on me but the phone is just too small for me.
The only thing that would stop me from buying a G2 is that LG makes it. Had and Optimus G and Nexus 4, wasn't that impressed.
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Software, size, stupid buttons, and glossy back.
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The only thing that would stop me from buying a G2 is that LG makes it. Had and Optimus G and Nexus 4, wasn't that impressed.
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This. I dropped my OG once in an otter box and now its useless. They seem nice at first but they're build quality is really cheap and the features are useless... I rooted and put on cm 10.2 as soon as I got it
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Move from HTC One to Moto X, or wait for something "better"?

If anyone has made this specific switch, I'd be grateful to hear your opinions!
Also, should I wait until March and see what comes out and then make the switch? (my next upgrade would be December 2014) or just switch now? Keep in mind I'd have this till next December!
HTC flagship 2013 vs Motorola flagship 2013.
They're in the same league. It's not really of an upgrade.
What makes Moto X different than any other flagship phones is the Active Display and Touchless Controls.
Those features makes it stand out from the rest of the phablets.
If you MUST have Active Display and Touchless controls, then sell One and get Moto X.
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If anyone has made this specific switch, I'd be grateful to hear your opinions!
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Literally just made the switch and I'm loving it. I'm on Verizon so this is the closest I can get to a pure Google device.
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Literally just made the switch and I'm loving it. I'm on Verizon so this is the closest I can get to a pure Google device.
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Biggest intial pros and cons?
I just did that switch on Verizon. I like the size and feel of the x better and of course all the touchless and active display stuff is great. Only thing I like about the one is the boom sound and aluminum chassis.
Physically, this x feels similar to my old gnex, which is a good thing.
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I made the switch from the One to the Moto X (kinda got a weird call from HTC asking me why I switched) and I wouldn't look back. Actually used my one for a few days last week and I went right back to the Moto X
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pros of htc one:
better processor
better screen
ir blastor
speakers
audio quality
pros of moto x:
smaller phone
active notification
touchless control
Do it. My HTC One will be on Swappa in a few hours.
I did this. Got rid of my One thinking that I'd move to T mobile from Verizon, but I love being on the Moto X.
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HTC One may have a better processor per say, but the Moto X hands down is much smoother and faster then HTC One. Speaker sound is equivalent on both. Battery life seemed a little better on the One, that would be my only gripe.
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Same here.
Cons are the speakers. You just can't beat the One's audio quality.
Haven't noticed any speed differences. If I do a benchmark test, it's obvious, but moving around the UI and opening apps is the same.
The camera is so-so. In KitKat, you can move around the focus reticle which is pretty sweet as you aren't tapping around trying to get the right lighting. I'm leaning towards the One as having the better camera, but it's a slight lean.
I've always preferred stock android and the Moto X is the closest I'll get to it on Verizon.
Also, of important note, the Moto X supports Band 4 (AWS). I live in NY and in the city (Manhattan), Verizon's LTE is pretty awful. Once Band 4 is activated, this will definitely help. The One does not supports AWS.
How does the screen compare? Does the AMOLED help battery life paired with the lower resolution?
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I sold my T-Mobile HTC one on swappa for $365 and bought the republic wireless moto x for $299.
I love the amoled and active display very much. Sound is still comparable. Tho I wish more phones would have front facing speakers!
Camera is worse but who honestly takes professional quality pics on a phone cam anyway.
I only really want data when im at work or home and have WiFi there anyway. So the $10 cell/text plan will save me oodles!
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pros of htc one:
better processor
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Better processor != Smoother experience.
And they both have the same GPU.
I have and love the Moto X, but honestly switching from the HTC One would be quite the downgrade. If you love AOSP then you can flash GPe, cant you? I would've gotten an HTC One in a heartbeat if the cyber monday deal had been for it instead of Moto X.
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I have and love the Moto X, but honestly switching from the HTC One would be quite the downgrade. If you love AOSP then you can flash GPe, cant you? I would've gotten an HTC One in a heartbeat if the cyber monday deal had been for it instead of Moto X.
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Why do you say it would be a clear downgrade?
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Flashing the GPe on a vzw HTC one - been there done that. There are things that don't work. Sick of going to Roms where almost everything works. I just want everything to work.
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Rule #1 in technology: there's always something better coming, buy what's available now.
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I switched. One is a nice phone but Moto x is better, imo.
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Flashing the GPe on a vzw HTC one - been there done that. There are things that don't work. Sick of going to Roms where almost everything works. I just want everything to work.
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Same here. Done the GPe, CM, ARHD, PA, none of them are perfect. A lot are close. But none work 100%.
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A Decision Made

Hi everyone,
I opted for the Moto X GSM Developer Edition today. I've been considering the Nexus 5 or the X for a while now. I just couldn't pass up the features of this balanced and apparently well-executed phone at Monday's sale price. Believe it or not, there is still some back and forth in my mind, but the decision is made, and I think I'm happy with it.
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SemTechie said:
Hi everyone,
I opted for the Moto X GSM Developer Edition today. I've been considering the Nexus 5 or the X for a while now. I just couldn't pass up the features of this balanced and apparently well-executed phone at Monday's sale price. Believe it or not, there is still some back and forth in my mind, but the decision is made, and I think I'm happy with it.
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after a week using ur Moto X u will not regret
Welcome to the jungle
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Hope you don't play ingress.
The latest update with the fancy ingress animations slow this phone down like crazy. I want my S4 back now, lol.
I did the same. I still have my nexus since I can't let it go. Love it too much but the size of the moto x is perfect and the battery life has me very intrigued. I guess I'll switch between them back and forth and just give the x or nexus to my girl once the newer generations of these phones start coming out.
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I did the same. I still have my nexus since I can't let it go. Love it too much but the size of the moto x is perfect and the battery life has me very intrigued. I guess I'll switch between them back and forth and just give the x or nexus to my girl once the newer generations of these phones start coming out.
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Exactly the same here. I just can't sell my N5, but love my bamboo X.
Having two phones is ridiculous, but oh well I guess. The resale market for the N5 isn't what I want (the loss). They are going for less than I like, so I'll just keep the thing.

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