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Recent applications but you can swipe to close them.
Those are the recently used apps, even if I force close them they are still there.
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Doefes said:
Those are the recently used apps, even if I force close them they are still there.
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They would be mate, because they are your most recently used apps.
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They would be mate, because they are your most recently used apps.
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ok they are recently used apps based on the comments. not necessarily running apps. Because sometimes this list grow so big, if so many running apps memory would blow into pieces.
guyenxda000 said:
ok they are recently used apps based on the comments. not necessarily running apps. Because sometimes this list grow so big, if so many running apps memory would blow into pieces.
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Run the Walkman app and play some music. Come out of the app and then close it. See if the music stops
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Run the Walkman app and play some music. Come out of the app and then close it. See if the music stops
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how do you close it? Just by hitting the return key? I dont think you can say stop play has terminated the app. It appears that would depend on each application. i.e. spoitfy will keep playing when you run other apps but youtube will stop playing immediately as soon as i switch or sleep. But they would still be running in the background. I read somewhere that the android OS makes its ultimate decision to when to close the app based on current memory usage and other factors.
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how do you close it? Just by hitting the return key? I dont think you can say stop play has terminated the app. It appears that would depend on each application. i.e. spoitfy will keep playing when you run other apps but youtube will stop playing immediately as soon as i switch or sleep. But they would still be running in the background. I read somewhere that the android OS makes its ultimate decision to when to close the app based on current memory usage and other factors.
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No, what I mean is, you can check to see whether swiping them away closes the app or just removes it from the recent apps tray.
If you open the Walkman app and start playing music, hit the home button (the music keeps playing obviously) open the recent apps tray and swipe away Walkman. If the music stops, the app has been closed. If it doesn't, it has just removed it as a recent app.
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No, what I mean is, you can check to see whether swiping them away closes the app or just removes it from the recent apps tray.
If you open the Walkman app and start playing music, hit the home button (the music keeps playing obviously) open the recent apps tray and swipe away Walkman. If the music stops, the app has been closed. If it doesn't, it has just removed it as a recent app.
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i see that d be a good experiment then :good:
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Occasionally, when opening an app, the app only displays on the screen for a fraction of a second, then disappears. It just kinda blinks on then off...
I can't figure out what is causing it to do this. It has happened to me with K-9, Facebook, Twitter, Maps...pretty much any app. Sometimes I try to open facebook, and it won't open, but twitter will....Some of the time you can get the program to open if you go home, then open and close the app drawer.....
Anyone else with a similar problem? I have reset the phone twice and it is still doing this...Other than this occasional problem, I love the Vibrant!
Do you have an app killer or startup controller? Mine did the same thing, and I quickly realized I was killing a service that the apps I was launching depended on.
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^ pretty much exactly what I was going to post. What have you installed on your phone like this?
Mine has done this a few times, usually after an app force closes. For 30 seconds or so after if I try to reopen that app it will just shut off again, then after a bit, it's fine.
It's happened with the web browser more than once, and a couple other apps.
I get the same exact problem with no real reason. Whenever it happens I just go into the settings from the menu button. Settings opens fine and once I close it ever other app opens correctly again.
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Do you have an app killer or startup controller? Mine did the same thing, and I quickly realized I was killing a service that the apps I was launching depended on.
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That's what I thought at first.. I wiped the phone and it did it even after when I had no task or app killers installed...
vinnydakid said:
I get the same exact problem with no real reason. Whenever it happens I just go into the settings from the menu button. Settings opens fine and once I close it ever other app opens correctly again.
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Yes, that seems to help mine too...
Did you erase unneeded apps? There is a list around here somewhere of apps that can be safely deleted, without violating dependencies. I have a stock unit with the lag, the blue tint, etc. . . But I never had this problem without the startup manager.
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Did you erase unneeded apps? There is a list around here somewhere of apps that can be safely deleted, without violating dependencies. I have a stock unit with the lag, the blue tint, etc. . . But I never had this problem without the startup manager.
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yes.. I took most of the bloatware off using root manager.
Startup auditor has a list of dependencies for each app that you have installed. Not much good for things that you have already deleted, but maybe the dev site can help? I know I saw a list somewhere of bloat that could be "safely deleted".
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The only bloat I deleted was Telenav, so I doubt that's the cause of it.
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I've noticed this as well. However, If you hold down your home key, after it does the weird flash, and select the app from the pop up menu, it will open. Weird.
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I've noticed this as well. However, If you hold down your home key, after it does the weird flash, and select the app from the pop up menu, it will open. Weird.
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Yes that fixes it most of the time...
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The only bloat I deleted was Telenav, so I doubt that's the cause of it.
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I seriously doubt that this has anything to do with deleting the bloatware apk's...
I haven't removed anything and mine does this as well. Usually after an app freezes or force closes.
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idk what the deal is but i hardly ever have more than 100mb of ram free. it at times goes down to 45mb free. i cant even watch a youtube video, pause it to reply to a text, and go back to youtube without the whole video refreshing. any suggestions on what i can do to free up some ram? idk where all the 512mb went >.<
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I bought an app called Autostarts from the market and that helped a TON. Since every app seems to "need" to start when the phone boots. You need to be rooted to use it.
Autostarts is great because a lot of apps have several instances that will trigger it to run. Like receiving a text runs sprint nav, things like that. This app will allow you to stop it.
The built in task manager app is good too. If you do a level two kill on the RAM tab it'll free up a bunch. You need to re open your call blocker, and other third party stuff you do want running afterward though.
When you exit a program are you doing it using the home button or the back button because usin the home button doesn't close the app it just "minimizes" it....the back button will close it while leaving essential data in memory for a quick startup next time you open it....if you are exiting using the back button then I would ask how many apps you have installed and how many widgets you have running on your homescreen
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I have the same problem, and most of the app that run are the crapware from sprint. But things like email, Gmail, settings, etc are always running. If I close all running apps, they just open 30 seconds later.
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I bought an app called Autostarts from the market and that helped a TON. Since every app seems to "need" to start when the phone boots. You need to be rooted to use it.
Autostarts is great because a lot of apps have several instances that will trigger it to run. Like receiving a text runs sprint nav, things like that. This app will allow you to stop it.
The built in task manager app is good too. If you do a level two kill on the RAM tab it'll free up a bunch. You need to re open your call blocker, and other third party stuff you do want running afterward though.
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Thanks a ton for this. I downloaded that app and it seems to be helping.
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When you exit a program are you doing it using the home button or the back button because usin the home button doesn't close the app it just "minimizes" it....the back button will close it while leaving essential data in memory for a quick startup next time you open it....if you are exiting using the back button then I would ask how many apps you have installed and how many widgets you have running on your homescreen
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I always press the back button when exiting an app but whenever i leave an app by pressing the home button and go back to it i usually have to reload whatever i was doing.
I have a problem with this too. I can use ATK to kill things running in the background and that will bring me up above 100 usually. Then within a matter of a minute it goes down to the mid 50s again. I do use a few widgets though.
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I have a problem with this too. I can use ATK to kill things running in the background and that will bring me up above 100 usually. Then within a matter of a minute it goes down to the mid 50s again. I do use a few widgets though.
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What widgets and if they do background updates (facebook, twitter, etc.) how often do they update?
you shouldn't really need an autokiller with froyo.. (which I've heard a thousand times), but in all honesty, I kill certain apps that I know to be potential memory hogs. But as far as just normal stuff running in the background, you're not really going to free up memory by killing those, because they're just going to load back up.. using more battery.
Here's the general idea: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garbage_collection_(computer_science)
But if you wanna check if, for example, if Youtube, a music player, launcher and angrybirds are all somehow really running in the background, (with froyo), I just hold the Home button, click Task Manager, and you see and can kill them there.
There's also a RAM Manager in there you can check out in there as well.
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I always press the back button when exiting an app but whenever i leave an app by pressing the home button and go back to it i usually have to reload whatever i was doing.
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That's because android killed the app to free up memory. In most cases android does a pretty good job in freeing up memory. For instance i know if i leave the xda app and do nothing it will stay open the next time i come back. But lets say i leave the xda app turn turn pandora on and brows the web, the phone will close xda to free up memory
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I typically keep about 140 mb of ram free. I use Startup Manager to keep progs from ever starting and Memory Booster to keep the bs from ever taking over my phone.
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Hi. I use this app quite frequently and after updating last night it seems to have stoped working. When I start it the screen just goes white. Is it possible that the art update caused this?
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That "App" is just a link to the mobile site https://m.pnc.com try going there from your browser.
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Is it possible that the art update caused this
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Using reason and logic. Then Yes!
Thx for the reply. I seen the mobile site is identical. I just liked than when using the app and trying to close it it would actually ask if u want to do that and then it would close completly. The stupid phone browser allways stays on in the background.
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Gotcha, I use Dolphin HD, so when I hold down the "back" button on the phone it asks me if i want to exit and gives options to clear cache and recent history. 2c
It appears all the banking apps have the same problem after the update. The Bank of America app does exactly the same thing. Maybe it's a security thing.
Well, I just got my new SGS II and noticed that on both the stock Bell firmware (KG3) and the most recent KH3 that the messaging app stays open (as per the Program Monitor widget). I have searched without finding any result. Anyone else notice this and / or have a fix?
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It does, unfortunately I noticed this too but it uses little resource. It is annoying to see the open applications count as "one" when you have finished!
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Well, I just got my new SGS II and noticed that on both the stock Bell firmware (KG3) and the most recent KH3 that the messaging app stays open (as per the Program Monitor widget). I have searched without finding any result. Anyone else notice this and / or have a fix?
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Apps like messaging and internet stay in the background even after you close it,because these apps are frequently used and they load faster the next time you use it,but dont worry the android OS will kill them eventually
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I waited a long time and the Messaging application never actually closed.
I suspect it is a similar bug to the Contacts issue I had with Froyo where the application remained open. This was later fixed in Gingerbread...
Does anyone else see Messaging remain open in the Program Monitor widget?
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I waited a long time and the Messaging application never actually closed.
I suspect it is a similar bug to the Contacts issue I had with Froyo where the application remained open. This was later fixed in Gingerbread...
Does anyone else see Messaging remain open in the Program Monitor widget?
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It stays open for me also, If and when the resources get low enough it should close but since we have so much ram i don't think it will ever close. It doesn't really bother me.
Stop using task killers. The android os does not work like windows that relies on free memory. It keeps apps in memory so that they can be instantly opened later. Some system processes will even be started again after you close them.
If a program is in memory but not used for a while it will be flagged to be removed if another app needs more memory. Just because an app is in memory does not mean it is using your CPU.
You are wasting more battery by killing things that you will use again or that the system will restart anyway. This phone has a lot of memory, let the phone use it!
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Stop using task killers. The android os does not work like windows that relies on free memory. It keeps apps in memory so that they can be instantly opened later. Some system processes will even be started again after you close them.
If a program is in memory but not used for a while it will be flagged to be removed if another app needs more memory. Just because an app is in memory does not mean it is using your CPU.
You are wasting more battery by killing things that you will use again or that the system will restart anyway. This phone has a lot of memory, let the phone use it!
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Thsnks for your reply; but, I am not using a task killer...
I am just wondering why the stock messaging application is displayed in the Program Monitor once exiting via the back button. Is it a known bug? Also, is there any way to fix it besides killing it or using another messaging app like Handcent?
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Thsnks for your reply; but, I am not using a task killer...
I am just wondering why the stock messaging application is displayed in the Program Monitor once exiting via the back button. Is it a known bug? Also, is there any way to fix it besides killing it or using another messaging app like Handcent?
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Known bug, it's not a bug, it's a feature,
Your phone has almost 1 Gig of ram, why would you want to micro manage what apps use the ram, has your phone ever run out of ram, has your phone slowed down, does it lag, do you attribute this lag (if there is any) to the messaging app running in the background???
when I replaced my messaging app using stock sms app, then the bug/feature went away
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Known bug, it's not a bug, it's a feature,
Your phone has almost 1 Gig of ram, why would you want to micro manage what apps use the ram, has your phone ever run out of ram, has your phone slowed down, does it lag, do you attribute this lag (if there is any) to the messaging app running in the background???
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I am not sure why, really. All I am looking for is to have the Program Monitor display 0 instead of a 1...
I am famous for leaving unused tasks open and like to monitor for them using that widget. If I understand correctly running tasks consume CPU which, in turn, drains the battery.
I have noticed that the messaging app is not in the Battery usage list; so, at this point it is an annoyance more than anything...
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when I replaced my messaging app using stock sms app, then the bug/feature went away
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Interesting. Can you explain this in more detail?
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Interesting. Can you explain this in more detail?
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I downloaded messaging Google stock app from here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16699746&postcount=1
then I put it in system/app folder using root explorer and installed it, i deleted old messaging app...
now whenever I exit messaging using back button and open task manager, I don't see messaging app in active tasks...
kryptoner said:
I downloaded messaging Google stock app from here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16699746&postcount=1
then I put it in system/app folder using root explorer and installed it, i deleted old messaging app...
now whenever I exit messaging using back button and open task manager, I don't see messaging app in active tasks...
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Thanks. I tried it and you are right. I ended up reverting though. Going to look into it more if/when I find time.
Hopefully it is not the same in the next firmware release; but, for now, it is only an annoyance.
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Advanced task killer
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Advanced task killer
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No, dont use task killers. If anything, it only eats more resources. Android keeps those apps open for a reason, when you open it next time its quicker and actually needs to use less resources. Free memory= useless memory, If there is an app which needs more memory (like a game) android will automatically kill "suspended" apps on background to free up memory. And when you finish playing it will restore those apps again. Killing it with force only causes the app to restart again and again and again and again.... Even windows does it (a little bit differently though).
And if you really want to have control over your processes in background, use watchdog which will warn you if theres an app eating resources in the background.
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No, dont use task killers. If anything, it only eats more resources. Android keeps those apps open for a reason, when you open it next time its quicker and actually needs to use less resources. Free memory= useless memory, If there is an app which needs more memory (like a game) android will automatically kill "suspended" apps on background to free up memory. And when you finish playing it will restore those apps again. Killing it with force only causes the app to restart again and again and again and again.... Even windows does it (a little bit differently though).
And if you really want to have control over your processes in background, use watchdog which will warn you if theres an app eating resources in the background.
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I am running Watchdog app now & previously monitored the Battery Usage app and show no messaging application displayed. So, it is just an annoyance for me...
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I downloaded messaging Google stock app from here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16699746&postcount=1
then I put it in system/app folder using root explorer and installed it, i deleted old messaging app...
now whenever I exit messaging using back button and open task manager, I don't see messaging app in active tasks...
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copied the sms app in the system/app folder, but when i try to install it, it says couldn`t install application
In Windows Phone 8 you can make your app resume instead of re-launching when you click on the app tile. This will also preserve the backstack of the application.
I've created a short blog post on how you can add fast app resume to your application.
http://mindre.net/Article/Windows_Phone_8_Fast_app_resume
Interesting stuff... Thanks!
Awesome finding!
I saw a video showing this feature off. It makes me so happy to not have to spend a minute letting and app startup anymore
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hallatore said:
In Windows Phone 8 you can make your app resume instead of re-launching when you click on the app tile. This will also preserve the backstack of the application.
I've created a short blog post on how you can add fast app resume to your application.
http://mindre.net/Article/Windows_Phone_8_Fast_app_resume
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Does this work only if the app is part of the last 8 apps available in Task switcher? or works even if we open the app after opening 10-20 apps?
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Does this work only if the app is part of the last 8 apps available in Task switcher? or works even if we open the app after opening 10-20 apps?
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I guess it worth checking it, going to do that right now
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Does this work only if the app is part of the last 8 apps available in Task switcher? or works even if we open the app after opening 10-20 apps?
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It depends on the memory requirements of the opened Apps. If you open 8 memory intensive Games it might happen that they are tombstoned and restarted even though they are still displayed in the task switcher. On the other hand it should stay alive even after being pushed out of the task switcher.
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I guess it worth checking it, going to do that right now
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So what is the result?