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Hi, recently I just got a nexus 4. Some time ago I use to had a optimus black and in their own forum there is a few ROMs. In the other hand here, OMG there is a lot of ROMs and I just dont know wich is the best combination between kernel, ROM, or maybe there are 2 or 3 great ROMs, etc...
I just dont know anything talking about ROMs for Nexus 4. Can some one help me a little bit in order to see 1,2 or 3 ROMs and I can make my choice?
ocovarr112 said:
Hi, recently I just got a nexus 4. Some time ago I use to had a optimus black and in their own forum there is a few ROMs. In the other hand here, OMG there is a lot of ROMs and I just dont know wich is the best combination between kernel, ROM, or maybe there are 2 or 3 great ROMs, etc...
I just dont know anything talking about ROMs for Nexus 4. Can some one help me a little bit in order to see 1,2 or 3 ROMs and I can make my choice?
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Stock 4.2.2 (rooted if you're into that). Nothing can beat the stability of pure android. Amazing battery life on the stock kernel as well (I can easily squeeze out 4 hours of screen on each day on mobile data).
If you're more after features, CM10 has always been more reliable for me than AOKP. Once again, stock kernel is great for performance/battery life.
AOKP if full of features that most people have no need for. But it's nice to have, I guess. Always has been the buggiest for me though, so I tend to stay away from it.
As I said before, nothing beats stock in terms of stability.
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Stock 4.2.2 (rooted if you're into that). Nothing can beat the stability of pure android. Amazing battery life on the stock kernel as well (I can easily squeeze out 4 hours of screen on each day on mobile data).
If you're more after features, CM10 has always been more reliable for me than AOKP. Once again, stock kernel is great for performance/battery life.
AOKP if full of features that most people have no need for. But it's nice to have, I guess. Always has been the buggiest for me though, so I tend to stay away from it.
As I said before, nothing beats stock in terms of stability.
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Thanks for your recomendation, since I got this device I knew that it will be the most pure android system and as your thoughts I also do not think it was neccesary to change to any ROM. Thanks for your answer it is a lot of help for me.
Just one more question, why do you reccomend me to put root in my device, can you give me some examples it will be usefull?
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Thanks for your recomendation, since I got this device I knew that it will be the most pure android system and as your thoughts I also do not think it was neccesary to change to any ROM. Thanks for your answer it is a lot of help for me.
Just one more question, why do you reccomend me to put root in my device, can you give me some examples it will be usefull?
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For Ad blockers, Titanium backup and restore for user apps and data, color control, custom bootanimations (also requires custom recovery) etc etc
I recently bought a Nexus 4 and have a few questions about whether or not I should root.
Firstly, I'm not new to this. I have in the past rooted 4 android devices including a Gal-nexus. Nevertheless I have concerns.
1. Does performance suffer with custom Roms/kernels? I have found my N4 very responsive but in the past I felt like some speed and fluidity was lost when I flashed new Roms. Is that still the case?
2. A follow on from 1; What's the best Rom?
3. Are there any benefits to rooting specific to the N4 that I otherwise wouldn't know about?
4. Are there any other reason why I should/ should not root that you know?
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I recently bought a Nexus 4 and have a few questions about whether or not I should root.
Firstly, I'm not new to this. I have in the past rooted 4 android devices including a Gal-nexus. Nevertheless I have concerns.
1. Does performance suffer with custom Roms/kernels? I have found my N4 very responsive but in the past I felt like some speed and fluidity was lost when I flashed new Roms. Is that still the case?
2. A follow on from 1; What's the best Rom?
3. Are there any benefits to rooting specific to the N4 that I otherwise wouldn't know about?
4. Are there any other reason why I should/ should not root that you know?
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I don't see how anyone could possibly answer your questions. Performance varies from ROM to ROM, but generally building a ROM that makes performance suffer doesn't regularly become popular. The best ROM is an often asked question, and it gets the same answer every time. You need to try them out and see for yourself. People may offer their opinions, but that's it. You may like something in one ROM which I don't etc. There are benefits to rooting, as a few popular apps require root permissions (Titanium backup i.e). I always root my phones, and I've never regretted doing it.
1. Does performance suffer with custom Roms/kernels? I have found my N4 very responsive but in the past I felt like some speed and fluidity was lost when I flashed new Roms. Is that still the case?
Flash a custom rom if you'd like. Honestly, there's nothing wrong with vanilla android 4.2.2, but it's missing a few things I like having...like expanded power menu and the theme engine
2. A follow on from 1; What's the best Rom?
for me it's paranoid. It looks VERY professional, IMHO, and it offers everything I want in a rom, including an aosp base, rather than CM, which has become a little too trendy for me
3. Are there any benefits to rooting specific to the N4 that I otherwise wouldn't know about?
accessing any functions that would need modding to run from anywhere but the /data directory just like always
4. Are there any other reason why I should/ should not root that you know?
the first thing I did when I unboxed mine (after playing with the stock rom for 20 minutes) was run the bootloader unlock command, then flash cwm so I could run a custom rom I'm probably the wrong person to ask if you're apprehensive about using a custom rom, because I'm always for rooting and customizing
If you want to root it do it at your own risk..btw I haven't rooted mine yet
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If you want to root it do it at your own risk..btw I haven't rooted mine yet
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Thank you for sharing this vital and lifechanging information
@OP:
I would use the phone for a few weeks to get familiar with it, read up in the meantime about the rom`s, kernel`s, mods that are available and fastboot and adb . After that you can realy compare and see the benefits and/or downsides between stock and custom.
As long as you have done the research and understand the risks of rooting your device(and you have stated you do) I would. The whole reason I bought this device is because I knew development would be off the chain.....and it is. Good luck whichever you decide and flash safely.
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I recently bought a Nexus 4 and have a few questions about whether or not I should root.
Firstly, I'm not new to this. I have in the past rooted 4 android devices including a Gal-nexus. Nevertheless I have concerns.
1. Does performance suffer with custom Roms/kernels? I have found my N4 very responsive but in the past I felt like some speed and fluidity was lost when I flashed new Roms. Is that still the case?
2. A follow on from 1; What's the best Rom?
3. Are there any benefits to rooting specific to the N4 that I otherwise wouldn't know about?
4. Are there any other reason why I should/ should not root that you know?
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Honestly I've been rooted I've tried like 5 roms (top roms like cm, Xenon, xylon, liquid smooth, etc) but I feel like stock is smoother and faster... I root for performance and customization but there's no improvement in performance for me (unless overclocked) so I guess I'm going back to stock rooted
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iNeedICS said:
Honestly I've been rooted I've tried like 5 roms (top roms like cm, Xenon, xylon, liquid smooth, etc) but I feel like stock is smoother and faster... I root for performance and customization but there's no improvement in performance for me (unless overclocked) so I guess I'm going back to stock rooted
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Roms don`t make phones faster, kernels make them faster
i recommend you to root your N4 you will not have any drop downs in performance
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Roms don`t make phones faster, kernels make them faster
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Hi,
It depends of a certain point of view... What do youy mean by "faster" (I don't ask this to you particularly ), yes a kernel helps but a rom well optimized can do your phone "faster" without any custom kernel.
After all it depends of what do you mean, faster, smoother, etc... is subjective. A combo kernel / rom optimized is the best and I think that just a kernel can't do only the stuff all the time (flash a bloated rom with a ton of scripts and build.prop tweaks as a "fastest and smoother rom", flash a "good" kernel -> the kernel will not help you even with overclocking or anything else).
You can have a good kernel with some good settings but you can broke all this stuff with a "bad" rom... So it's 50 / 50 - rom / kernel.
It's not only the kernel that makes a phone "faster"...
It's like in a car, it's not only the motor that does everything (I mean that does a faster car), there is also the Cx, the tyres, the fuel, etc...
If you do not have a reason to root, don't do it then.
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If you do not have a reason to root, don't do it then.
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Good remark.
I rooted mine and flashed Faux mainline kernel with stock 4.2.2 and i noticed a huge improvement in battery life and performance. :good:
My reasons for rooting before I even put my SIM card in:
1. It wipes the phone so best to do it first.
2. Titanium Backup to restore transfer apps/data from my Nexus One.
3. Install Greenify
4. Install AdAway
5. Load Franco kernel which doesn't require root but his kernel app does
I knew going in that I wasn't going to load a custom ROM for a long time (if at all). I don't see how it could get much smoother than stock
There is no "Best" ROM. It's all on personal preference. I personally think PA is the best rom, and have stuck by it ever since getting my N4. You might think another rom is best, so just try all the ones that seem interesting to you, and find out what's best for you.
If you just got your nexus 4 enjoy it stock for a while. It works pretty good! Take your time to read. Welcome aboard!
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I'm on stock right now and it's blazing I mean I might root again and try a kernel with mpdecision enabled and that could make a big difference but we'll see I mean I like stock for now there's not much bloat except for like currents, earth, book, and stuff which is just Google play stuff I'm glad I don't have all that tmobile bloat lol
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Yeah Im kind a questioning the point in rooting to. I had rooted and installed RasBean rom with Trinity on my Galaxy Nexus and it was great, but one of the main reasons i rooted was to get stickmount to work for usb memory stick support. As this isnt there yet for the N4 then im failing to see the point... plus once i start flashing roms and taking backups with clockworkmod that eats into available phone space..
im sure i'll be tempted eventually but right now im getting decent battery life, good performance and my screen colours are good enough for me.. so i am on the fence..
will rooting and flashing these custom kernels/roms resolve the wifi instability issue?? thanks!
In my opinion, if You are asking this (and these) question (s) then You definitely should not root your device. It's natural for me to root it 5 minutes after unboxing my new device, but I know why am I doing this. If you asking other people whether You should do it or not then You dont need it
Hey,
I just wanted to ask does the custom roms really worth rooting? in comparison to the google stock rom how much faster and more battery efficient are the custom rom that specialize in those fields? (i.e. LiquidSmooth from what I could gather) and how much more/less stable are they from the stock rom?
Thank you.
Experience differs from user to user. The most conclusive way to get an answer is to try it out yourself. For me, PA has been just as fast as the stock ROM and had equally good battery life, but I have had the occasional random reboot. To me that's a miniscule trade-off for the features you get. You won't really get a ROM that's significantly faster than a stock ROM though because the hardware on the phone is good enough that everything feels fast.
tomer90 said:
Hey,
I just wanted to ask does the custom roms really worth rooting? in comparison to the google stock rom how much faster and more battery efficient are the custom rom that specialize in those fields? (i.e. LiquidSmooth from what I could gather) and how much more/less stable are they from the stock rom?
Thank you.
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I would recommend you try both and stick with the one that works best for you. Only you can determine which one you like more. The N4 is easy to install a custom rom on (even from stock). Plus with the backup apps out there you don't have to risk losing your data and starting over. No two users are identical and what works for one may not work for another.
For what it's worth, I've flashed back to stock/locked/unrooted because I never came to depend on the features the different roms gave me. I'm getting older and don't have the time to stay current on the different roms and features. All I need for my phone are apps/features that are found in the stock rom and the google store. Battery life is better on a custom rom but it's not worth it to me to continue my "flashaholic" ways. I still get through a day sometimes a day and a half on the stock rom - which is all I need. My use case could be drastically different than yours so don't do what I did unless you know it will work for you.
The developers here do great work and it's a great community so I would recommend you try them all to see which one you like the most.
Good luck.
You need to find the answer yourself.
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its not about me testing for myself because i'm not looking for features or special stuff i can get along with everything i'm really just looking for the fastest most battery saving ROM, thats it, I play little to almost no games basicly mail and scanning and stuff like that(i'm a student right now) and soon i'll be writing some apps for myself for security purposes so I need something to really milk that Quad Core for all its worth so I also need some CPU tweaking apps(not sure if thats ROM related)
You'll be very happy with Sabermod or Rasbean both close to stock. Sabermod is the only Rom built using the 4.8 chaintool and is very fast. The battery life is also excellent. I recommend those 2 for a close to stock experience with some useful tweaks both fast smooth and solid.
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Thank you for your input.
Any other opinions?
and by the way, excuse my ignorance but what does it mean 4.8 chaintool? what makes it faster then the 4.7 or the older ones? and since its really new im guessing, does it mean its less stable then the other ROMS? and when you say excellent battery life, its in comparison to all those other ROMS that aim for max battery life?
Thank you!
If you really want more battery life or smoothness then IMO you should just install a new kernel; Franco's kernel has great battery life but it still has better performance than stock, Trinity kernel is super fast and smooth, and there's loads more options available.
I'm running CM10.1 and Franco kernel and its very stable, barely ever have any sort of bugs or random reboots
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I run CM10.1. Close to stock, but has a few options that are nice to have especially if you like to customize your phone. There are other Roms that have more options, but to me, what's in CM is enough. It's really up to you.
With that being said, I recently flashed a stock rooted rom and got MUCH better battery life than on CM. I don't know if it was an app I had or what, but stock definitely gave me better battery life. I have tried kernels and Rom combinations, but always come back to CM with every single phone I've had. But, in my experience on the Nexus 4, stock Rom gives me the best battery life.
For me liquidsmooth is brilliant! Extremely fast while having tons of customization options. Pair it with matr1x and it really is a great combo for speed and battery life. This is only my opinion but it works for me. I got over 22000 on antutu with this combination (no overclock) while I think its around 17000 on stock. I also get significantly better battery life compared to stock.
if you really want a bump in battery and performance, i suggest rooting and just install francos kernel.i've tried every rom on this forum and for me i ALWAYS find my way back to stock for me it just feels the most fluid and everything works like it should. like me you dont play games or anything and im no app hoarder.that said stock rom with francos kernel gives me the best of everything including color/gamma tweaks to make your screen look better with his app.
with that said i suggest to check out different kernels
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if you really want a bump in battery and performance, i suggest rooting and just install francos kernel.i've tried every rom on this forum and for me i ALWAYS find my way back to stock for me it just feels the most fluid and everything works like it should. like me you dont play games or anything and im no app hoarder.that said stock rom with francos kernel gives me the best of everything including color/gamma tweaks to make your screen look better with his app.
with that said i suggest to check out different kernels
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Now, if we install franco's kernel onto the Stock ROM, will this prevent any future Google updates from being installed?
mastewman said:
Now, if we install franco's kernel onto the Stock ROM, will this prevent any future Google updates from being installed?
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Updates in any form will show up in the forum and no need to simply rely on Google for them. They have recently released an updated kernel which I see being implemented by some rom developers and kernel developers already. Let's understand what we have here guys, a community of constant building additions/updates to our phones. So updates should be the last thing for you to worry about IMO
Also to me OP some of the questions you asked can all be answered with a simple Google Search, not that the answers given here are wrong but you would probably find more in depth and uniformed answers by looking it up.. Quite sure its on a wiki somewhere...
playya said:
Updates in any form will show up in the forum and no need to simply rely on Google for them. They have recently released an updated kernel which I see being implemented by some rom developers and kernel developers already. Let's understand what we have here guys, a community of constant building additions/updates to our phones. So updates should be the last thing for you to worry about IMO
Also to me OP some of the questions you asked can all be answered with a simple Google Search, not that the answers given here are wrong but you would probably find more in depth and uniformed answers by looking it up.. Quite sure its on a wiki somewhere...
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I believe he means Google ota's and yes it can stop you from getting ota's. Any modification to system. Whether you added or removed something will fail. You would have to be on complete stock for it to work. Just download yourself a nexus 4 toolkit. The latest factory image, latest drivers, and make sure you backup your internal storage on your computer. Use the tool to return your phone back to stock. Of course whenever you feel is tge right time to do so.
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I believe he means Google ota's and yes it can stop you from getting ota's. Any modification to system. Whether you added or removed something will fail. You would have to be on complete stock for it to work. Just download yourself a nexus 4 toolkit. The latest factory image, latest drivers, and make sure you backup your internal storage on your computer. Use the tool to return your phone back to stock. Of course whenever you feel is tge right time to do so.
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Oh no I fully understood what he meant and my point was simply people unroot or stay stock to wait for an update. Whether you are rooted or not the update will find you in some form. Either with a rooted stock rom or a custom rom but rest assure that xda will not let an update happen and its not on everyone's phone :good:
Hey all!
Simple question: Does GRAM works on AOSP roms?! Is it a software or a hardware feature?! Or maybe both?!
Thanks!
Life Engineer said:
Hey all!
Simple question: Does GRAM works on AOSP roms?! Is it a software or a hardware feature?! Or maybe both?!
Thanks!
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GRAM is hardware but not sure if need specific software on stock rom to make it works
Life Engineer said:
Hey all!
Simple question: Does GRAM works on AOSP roms?! Is it a software or a hardware feature?! Or maybe both?!
Thanks!
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Good Question,
Was wondering this myself
Any opinions on this?
If I had to guess I would think that gram feature is activated through either the rom or kernel, so it probably isnt working on AOSP based ROMs. But thats just a guess due to how the feature activates.
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If I had to guess I would think that gram feature is activated through either the rom or kernel, so it probably isnt working on AOSP based ROMs. But thats just a guess due to how the feature activates.
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What makes me confused is some reports in those AOSP roms of better battery life!!! I really highly doubt it!
I've had the S2, S3 and never AOSP gives better battery life than stock roms! I think this also applies to highly optimized software like the one on our LG G2 or HTC one!
Its really a toss up on battery life, no matter what phone. It depends on the feature you use and how they are implemented so no one can say AOSP gives better or Touchwiz gives better, or anything like that. Usually it is the apps within the ROM that give the bad battery life, such as Google Now. Stock GNow is just terrible on battery, and from what I can tell LG didnt do anything to GoogleNow to optimize it or change its function in any way. The Samsung or HTC implementation of it may give better battery life. There are also a lot of rom features in system apps that drain a lot more battery in Touchwiz and Sense than the stock AOSP.
The reason people get better battery on AOSP for this phone right now is because of two reasons:
1) the kernel default speed is 1.5GHz, meaning even at max it wont ever drain as much battery as stock
2) AOSP based ROMs have less bloat in them right now that isnt draining as much battery leading to better idle life.
You are partially right but not completely! Software optimisation has a lot of role in here!
A big example is let's say the HTC one being able to deliver 10hrs of browsing on its modest 2300ma. I dare you that AOSP can't do that!
Also see iPhones which have like 1400ma and have some amazing battery life.
So allow me to say you are wrong! Software optimisation has a lot to do!
Besides when I wrote my last comment it was out of experience and not speculation. I always have the same apps and most of the time touchwiz (although it has more bloatware) had mich bettery life! So NO it's not only about the apps! There's something much deeper than that!
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What makes me confused is some reports in those AOSP roms of better battery life!!! I really highly doubt it!
I've had the S2, S3 and never AOSP gives better battery life than stock roms! I think this also applies to highly optimized software like the one on our LG G2 or HTC one!
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Are you saying that no custom rom gives better battery life?!
Can't say I agree with that at all. Anytime I've changed a stock blaoted rom for a well put together aosp rom the battery has always been better.
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mgolder said:
Are you saying that no custom rom gives better battery life?!
Can't say I agree with that at all. Anytime I've changed a stock blaoted rom for a well put together aosp rom the battery has always been better.
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Read my reply above sir!
Anyway that's just not the main issue! The question here is Does GRAM works on AOSP or not?!
It would be great, but i'm afraid we need some developer here. Maybe they can port the script from LG frimwares to use it in other roms. I would buy a beer for that hero!
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You are partially right but not completely! Software optimisation has a lot of role in here!
A big example is let's say the HTC one being able to deliver 10hrs of browsing on its modest 2300ma. I dare you that AOSP can't do that!
Also see iPhones which have like 1400ma and have some amazing battery life.
So allow me to say you are wrong! Software optimisation has a lot to do!
Besides when I wrote my last comment it was out of experience and not speculation. I always have the same apps and most of the time touchwiz (although it has more bloatware) had mich bettery life! So NO it's not only about the apps! There's something much deeper than that!
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No to being rude, but really doubt that HTC One can deliver 10hrs on browsing. Where did you get this info?
I owned H1 previously, even browsing via wifi, there is no way it could survive that long.
htcm7 said:
No to being rude, but really doubt that HTC One can deliver 10hrs on browsing. Where did you get this info?
I owned H1 previously, even browsing via wifi, there is no way it could survive that long.
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No bro no offence taken don't worry!
Here it is: Yes believe your eyes: http://blog.gsmarena.com/htc-one-battery-test-is-complete-results-are-in/
Please post a user than do that, 11 hrs of screen time, here in asop i get 5 a 6 hrs.
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Still can ´t find answer if GRAM works on AOSP roms. Every AOSP rom has really big drain from screen. On LG stock rom top one draining process is system.
So is it because LG rom is heavy bloated and android system on AOKP is so light that screen is bigger drainer or GRAM really doesn´t work on AOSP roms.
Hello could you pease share some tips or link to guides that will help G2 opimized as much as possible performance and battery life, without rooting and using custom roms.
I want to be able to get the most out of the device on things that really matter to me like battery, messaging apps, gmail, est
thanks
lakiscy said:
Hello could you pease share some tips or link to guides that will help G2 opimized as much as possible performance and battery life, without rooting and using custom roms.
I want to be able to get the most out of the device on things that really matter to me like battery, messaging apps, gmail, est
thanks
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As far as performance this phone comes stock with really great performance, really even battery for that matter. However there is not much your going to be able to do to increase performance of apps like messaging, Gmail, etc. Those apps will already be pretty much flawless. As far as battery all you can do without root is the regular stuff like disable GPS, AUTO SYNC, use auto brightness. There are several apps that claim to help with battery. I used to use Juice Defender back a couple years ago. If you root your phone there is much more you can do. Mods, tweaks, roms, custom kernels, etc. Good luck!
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lakiscy said:
Hello could you pease share some tips or link to guides that will help G2 opimized as much as possible performance and battery life, without rooting and using custom roms.
I want to be able to get the most out of the device on things that really matter to me like battery, messaging apps, gmail, est
thanks
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As jcnbama stated its pretty sweet outta the box...but to have an all around improvement performance/battery wise you're gonna wanna root your device and install a custom rom...rooting is much simpler and much safer than on many devices...Mahdi aosp rom seems to give the most stability, performance and extreme battery life in my opinion... Good luck!
jamesd1085 said:
As jcnbama stated its pretty sweet outta the box...but to have an all around improvement performance/battery wise you're gonna wanna root your device and install a custom rom...rooting is much simpler and much safer than on many devices...Mahdi aosp rom seems to give the most stability, performance and extreme battery life in my opinion... Good luck!
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You can call me a fanboy or whatever but I've yet to find any custom ROM that outperforms stock in battery life or performance, especially stability. There are some big trade offs too like audio quality and camera (even on mahdi) which are both deal breakers for me. Sad, since I love stock android but stock ticks every box.
Art Vanderlay said:
You can call me a fanboy or whatever but I've yet to find any custom ROM that outperforms stock in battery life or performance, especially stability. There are some big trade offs too like audio quality and camera (even on mahdi) which are both deal breakers for me. Sad, since I love stock android but stock ticks every box.
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Yeah...you would have to be a fanboy to still think stock outperforms aosp in any way...especially Mahdi...benchmarks(which I don't trust to be accurate)show higher...as well as side by side tests of stock and aosp shows how muchs faster tasks are completed...But...at least as far as the g2 is concerned I can see why you love stock...I have been stuck with Samsung's touchwiz ui for my last 3 devices...it was uglyAnd downright overfilled with bloatware...but fully rooted and with a few tweaks I could see myself using stock on the g2...but I still get better stability, performance and battery life on Mahdi than I have experienced on anything hands down
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Yeah...you would have to be a fanboy to still think stock outperforms aosp in any way...especially Mahdi...benchmarks(which I don't trust to be accurate)show higher...as well as side by side tests of stock and aosp shows how muchs faster tasks are completed...But...at least as far as the g2 is concerned I can see why you love stock...I have been stuck with Samsung's touchwiz ui for my last 3 devices...it was uglyAnd downright overfilled with bloatware...but fully rooted and with a few tweaks I could see myself using stock on the g2...but I still get better stability, performance and battery life on Mahdi than I have experienced on anything hands down
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I didn't like it right off the bat. I loved cm 10.2 and I was pretty happy on Mahdi until I played music over Bluetooth. No matter how many audio tweaks and kernel tweaks I made I just couldn't get to sound good. The video camera audio was the same. I can live with the odd random reboot but the sound quality of stock is what sealed it for me.
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I didn't like it right off the bat. I loved cm 10.2 and I was pretty happy on Mahdi until I played music over Bluetooth. No matter how many audio tweaks and kernel tweaks I made I just couldn't get to sound good. The video camera audio was the same. I can live with the odd random reboot but the sound quality of stock is what sealed it for me.
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How long has it been since you tried it?most if not all of these bugs have been fixed...I couldn't use it due to buggyness either...I tried it after the 6-28 release and it was smooth sailing ever since...every update has continued to improve my experience and its my dd at this point...I actually do keep a backup of stock(all bloat removed and lots of optimizations) due to to some features that only come stock...but I have faster 4g and WiFi connectivity using mahdi...don't know why...I guess one could argue good and bad for both here...but I guess since touchwiz from Sammy just wasn't an option for me aosp is what I'm accustomed to...lol
jamesd1085 said:
How long has it been since you tried it?most if not all of these bugs have been fixed...I couldn't use it due to buggyness either...I tried it after the 6-28 release and it was smooth sailing ever since...every update has continued to improve my experience and its my dd at this point...I actually do keep a backup of stock(all bloat removed and lots of optimizations) due to to some features that only come stock...but I have faster 4g and WiFi connectivity using mahdi...don't know why...I guess one could argue good and bad for both here...but I guess since touchwiz from Sammy just wasn't an option for me aosp is what I'm accustomed to...lol
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Its been a while since I tried it. I've been on the cloudy Roms and cloudyg3 is my daily driver now, surprisingly. Running perfect for me anyway. I'll have to give Mahdi another go before android L comes into effect. Its good to know they're perfecting it. The OP's head must be spinning now with all this information.