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Want to swap? My International 3G for your US LTE?

Yes, I realize I may get harassed for this, however, I get much better US LTE cvoverage around me than I do the AT&T 3G, therefore, if you pick up a LTE 7.7 from Verizon and are interested in swapping for my 100% perfect condition International 3G version, let me know.
Thanks!

i dont think its out yet.

codeworks said:
Yes, I realize I may get harassed for this, however, I get much better US LTE cvoverage around me than I do the AT&T 3G, therefore, if you pick up a LTE 7.7 from Verizon and are interested in swapping for my 100% perfect condition International 3G version, let me know.
Thanks!
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I'm sorry that you don't have such decent AT&T coverage where you are, but I humbly propose that you are bat$hit crazy for wanting a locked down carrier subsidized device from Verizon... No offense...
I mean, with the VZW 7.7, you're saying goodbye to phone functionality, bigger community support (different internal hardware, different device, separate support). Also you're also saying goodbye to a device free of carrier bloat, lock-downs, and restrictions, just to name a few.
If LTE is all you want, get a VZW LTE hotspot and keep your P6800. Best of both worlds!

Whoever traded with you would give you a locked device, tied to a two year contract.
Is there an easy way to unlock a device under current contract? Seems like you could only use it if you assumed the contract too.
Alternative suggestion: sell your device on here, for maybe $50 less than you paid, and get your own Verizon contract.
Hate to see anyone go to the Dark Side though....

mywingtophone said:
i dont think its out yet.
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Comes out thursday.
Verizon is charging insane prices though.

spridell said:
Comes out thursday.
Verizon is charging insane prices though.
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How much is the no contract price for it?
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codeworks said:
Yes, I realize I may get harassed for this, however, I get much better US LTE cvoverage around me than I do the AT&T 3G, therefore, if you pick up a LTE 7.7 from Verizon and are interested in swapping for my 100% perfect condition International 3G version, let me know.
Thanks!
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Any interest on trading for this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1520529

Asked this in another thread. But do we know if there will ever be an international unlocked LTE version? I want to get one and use it with Rogers LTE in Canada.

charliechocolate said:
Asked this in another thread. But do we know if there will ever be an international unlocked LTE version? I want to get one and use it with Rogers LTE in Canada.
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If there will be, you won't get it from Verizon. Theoretically, if AT&T offers one that will have a user-accessible SIM card so you could possibly have the device unlocked and use it with other compatible carriers. But, there's no indication that AT&T will be offering the 7.7 at this point.

mywingtophone said:
How much is the no contract price for it?
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Looks to be $699 off contract with Verizon

Jade Eyed Wolf said:
I'm sorry that you don't have such decent AT&T coverage where you are, but I humbly propose that you are bat$hit crazy for wanting a locked down carrier subsidized device from Verizon... No offense...
I mean, with the VZW 7.7, you're saying goodbye to phone functionality, bigger community support (different internal hardware, different device, separate support). Also you're also saying goodbye to a device free of carrier bloat, lock-downs, and restrictions, just to name a few.
If LTE is all you want, get a VZW LTE hotspot and keep your P6800. Best of both worlds!
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Internal hardware is the same with the obvious exception of the radios. There's already separate support for the WiFi and 3G models. There will be greater support for the LTE model because of its increased availability vs the international 3G. Both will be eclipsed by WiFi support when its more commercially avaliable, however, as evident in the tab's bigger brothers.
You're trading the ****ty "phone functionality"(find me a review praising this ability, the ones I've read trash the speaker/microphone) for the slightly more useful IR Blaster. Its a tablet and you(general populace) look stupid holding a 7.7" device to your face. I understand the rational of wanting to carry one device to suit all your needs, but... seriously. There only bloatware on the tablet is what Samsung put there as far as I know(I.e. Samsung apps, Peel, etc). Not to mention with the upcoming ICS upgrade, any worries about bloatware go out the window. I'm hard pressed to think of what "lock downs" and "restrictions" you're so worried about.
EDIT: all that being said, I agree with the MiFi solution. Its the path of least resistance.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

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Internal hardware is the same with the obvious exception of the radios. There's already separate support for the WiFi and 3G models. There will be greater support for the LTE model because of its increased availability vs the international 3G. Both will be eclipsed by WiFi support when its more commercially avaliable, however, as evident in the tab's bigger brothers.
You're trading the ****ty "phone functionality"(find me a review praising this ability, the ones I've read trash the speaker/microphone) for the slightly more useful IR Blaster. Its a tablet and you(general populace) look stupid holding a 7.7" device to your face. I understand the rational of wanting to carry one device to suit all your needs, but... seriously. There only bloatware on the tablet is what Samsung put there as far as I know(I.e. Samsung apps, Peel, etc). Not to mention with the upcoming ICS upgrade, any worries about bloatware go out the window. I'm hard pressed to think of what "lock downs" and "restrictions" you're so worried about.
EDIT: all that being said, I agree with the MiFi solution. Its the path of least resistance.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
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I dont think both of the internals are the same. The International version has an Exynos chip. I believe the LTE Verizon version does not have the Exynos chip. Exynos doesnt play nice with LTE so it must be a different chip.

I have been reading through all the blog posts regarding the Verizon release tomorrow, however, I have yet to see what processor is included within the device.
I have also heard that Exynos processors have issues with LTE radios, so I am guessing we will get the Snapdragon in this one.
Now, if tomorrow were today, Verizon would only be charging $399 for the device since they are knocking off $100 on every 4G LTE device for Leap Day.

The Samsung product website claims that it is Exynos. AFAIK it is the only device on which an Exynos SoC is paired with an LTE baseband (though that site doesn't say what the baseband is).

For whst its worth, according to folks(Anandtech, Engadget, etc) who handled the LTE model at CES, it is Exynos 1.4ghz processor.
Sent from my Galaxy Tab 7.7

Samsung must have been able to get their Exynos chip to work with LTE.
This is great news if true. Especially for the upcoming Galaxy SIII.

Verizon Galaxy Tab 7.7 LTE

I just saw the review on slashgear and it shows Mali400MP as the GPU and clock speed of 1.4Ghz
LTE and Exynos?

ph00ny said:
I just saw the review on slashgear and it shows Mali400MP as the GPU and clock speed of 1.4Ghz
LTE and Exynos?
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So claims Samsung.

teiglin said:
So claims Samsung.
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i guess that blows the whole exynos not able to support LTE service out the door
Btw, it comes with an IR port just like the 7.0+
http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-galaxy-tab-7-7-lte-review-04216701/

Sounds fishy now that Samsung was claiming LTE was not compatible with the Exynos 4210.. Now i'm thinking Samsung has been lying this entire time and opting for the cheap Qualcomm S3 chips that are about half the power of their Exynos just to make easy cash.
Sketchy sketchy Samsung, shame shame.

Diversion said:
Sounds fishy now that Samsung was claiming LTE was not compatible with the Exynos 4210.. Now i'm thinking Samsung has been lying this entire time and opting for the cheap Qualcomm S3 chips that are about half the power of their Exynos just to make easy cash.
Sketchy sketchy Samsung, shame shame.
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I'd love a source link, or reliable citation of any kind, for that claim. I've read a lot of speculation that Exynos wasn't compatible with LTE, but it's always been just that--speculation. It's probably some combination of larger chassis in the 7.7 and its higher cost, where in phones it was both cheaper and easier to just use Qualcomm's chipset with integrated LTE baseband.

So does it mean its a better tab considering that it has LTE and exynos , you can always use voip for voice plus it has an IR blaster.

mywingtophone said:
So does it mean its a better tab considering that it has LTE and exynos , you can always use voip for voice plus it has an IR blaster.
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That's the million dollar question. Well 1) is the LTE 7.7 BETTER? 2) What are it's restrictions/compatibility issues....

teiglin said:
I'd love a source link, or reliable citation of any kind, for that claim. I've read a lot of speculation that Exynos wasn't compatible with LTE, but it's always been just that--speculation. It's probably some combination of larger chassis in the 7.7 and its higher cost, where in phones it was both cheaper and easier to just use Qualcomm's chipset with integrated LTE baseband.
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I can't remember where it was originally stated or where I saw it, but EVERY single Samsung LTE equipped phone that originally came with Exynos ended up with a craptastic Qualcomm S3 chip instead. And it's been common knowledge that the reason was Samsung stated LTE was not compatible with Exynos.
So if the solution is to run a seperate LTE chip + Exynos, sounds like the Verizon LTE 7.7 could be a horrible battery sucker then :/

Diversion said:
I can't remember where it was originally stated or where I saw it, but EVERY single Samsung LTE equipped phone that originally came with Exynos ended up with a craptastic Qualcomm S3 chip instead. And it's been common knowledge that the reason was Samsung stated LTE was not compatible with Exynos.
So if the solution is to run a seperate LTE chip + Exynos, sounds like the Verizon LTE 7.7 could be a horrible battery sucker then :/
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I went to pick one up from the local Verizon store and it's sold out. 0 stock in nyc.
Demo unit was snappy. Noticeably snappier than the 10.1
IR port is definitely there
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I'd like to pick one up - but I don't want to be under contract, so looks like I'll have to shell out $699+tax for one.
Also, it doesn't look like the USA will be getting a Wifi-only variant any time soon. By then Exynos2 will probably be in other tablets.
It's a gamble buying one of these right now due to only getting 14 days to return it to Verizon (plus the $35 restocking fee).

Diversion said:
I can't remember where it was originally stated or where I saw it, but EVERY single Samsung LTE equipped phone that originally came with Exynos ended up with a craptastic Qualcomm S3 chip instead. And it's been common knowledge that the reason was Samsung stated LTE was not compatible with Exynos.
So if the solution is to run a seperate LTE chip + Exynos, sounds like the Verizon LTE 7.7 could be a horrible battery sucker then :/
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Are you sure you're not confusing the Exynos with the Tegra3 processors?

Diversion said:
I'd like to pick one up - but I don't want to be under contract, so looks like I'll have to shell out $699+tax for one.
Also, it doesn't look like the USA will be getting a Wifi-only variant any time soon. By then Exynos2 will probably be in other tablets.
It's a gamble buying one of these right now due to only getting 14 days to return it to Verizon (plus the $35 restocking fee).
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Exynos 5 series isn't supposed to be out until mid year probably with the high res galaxy tab 11.6

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Are you sure you're not confusing the Exynos with the Tegra3 processors?
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He's right
all the LTE version of previously exynos devices came out with snapdragon. Same goes for high speed HSPA
AT&T Galaxy S2 Skyrocket
AT&T Galaxy Note
Galaxy Tab 10.1/8.9 LTE
Tmo Galaxy S2

ph00ny said:
He's right
all the LTE version of previously exynos devices came out with snapdragon. Same goes for high speed HSPA
AT&T Galaxy S2 Skyrocket
AT&T Galaxy Note
Galaxy Tab 10.1/8.9 LTE
Tmo Galaxy S2
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Specifically only LTE Samsung phones swapped out the Exynos for Snapdragons.
Galaxy S2 on both ATT and Sprint still kept the Exynos intact. The LTE variants unfortunately lost Exynos due to LTE.
So it IS possible that given enough room inside a device, it can be fitted with Exynos AND a independant LTE chip.. and this is why the LTE phones couldn't be Exynos + LTE, not enough room perhaps.

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Haha
Read the article found out that 7.7 LTE comes with exynos
Called around a bunch of stores after the MRI
on my way home, score
I'm now a proud owner of 7.7 LTE

My new daily driver next to the current daily driver

Diversion said:
I'd like to pick one up - but I don't want to be under contract, so looks like I'll have to shell out $699+tax for one.
Also, it doesn't look like the USA will be getting a Wifi-only variant any time soon. By then Exynos2 will probably be in other tablets.
It's a gamble buying one of these right now due to only getting 14 days to return it to Verizon (plus the $35 restocking fee).
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Why not just import the WiFi-only version from Negri Electronics? Hell of a lot cheaper than shelling out $700+tax for an off-contract VZW version...
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ph00ny said:
My new daily driver next to the current daily driver
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So, what do you do about phone calls if your VZW 7.7 is your daily driver?
My P6800 is my daily driver. When a phone call comes in, I answer it, on the 7.7 (via Bluetooth of course!).
1 device. Does it all. Love it!

Question for any of the Verizon LTE 7.7 owners: is your LTE performance any good? I get good speed test results, but when I try and web-browse, it takes 20 seconds or more to get from one page to another. It's really frustrating.

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Question for any of the Verizon LTE 7.7 owners: is your LTE performance any good? I get good speed test results, but when I try and web-browse, it takes 20 seconds or more to get from one page to another. It's really frustrating.
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Im actually getting great performance with the tab. Much better than nexus. Don't forget, when you're on Verizon 3g, expect it to be dog slow
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Skipping LTE

Anyone in the U.S planning on just getting the international version and not worrying about LTE? I am leaning towards the international version because of the processor and probably better rom support.
I have an international s2 right now and I am not sure I really care about lte speed when it's barely supported right now. I guess the only real issue would be the huge price difference.

well Iam planning to get the international one, cause I'm with Tmobile and i think they don't have lte yet rigth?.
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walliester said:
well Iam planning to get the international one, cause I'm with Tmobile and i think they don't have lte yet rigth?.
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That's true but Tmobile is supposed to get a non LTE version and it will be much cheaper than the international version if you buy it on contract.

It depends on your location. If you have no LTE where you live, but has 3G, then international version is good idea. Also it will inevitably gets more developers than carrier locked version and has better resale value.

eksasol said:
It depends on your location. If you have no LTE where you live, but has 3G, then international version is good idea. Also international version is pentaband so you can switch between TMO and ATT. Also it will inevitably gets more developers than carrier locked version and has better resale value.
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I do have lte in my city, but not sure if it really matters to me. There is free wifi almost everywhere these days, and I am guessing lte coverage is going to be pretty spotty since it is so new.
I guess since I upgrade my phone once a year, I would be fine without lte for another 6-12 months.

double post

International.
Philly doesn't have LTE yet, but probably soon.
I like having the physical button on front to wake the phone, us versions usually don't have that.
Less bloat.
To make up the price difference I'll probably get the iphone 5 on contract when it comes out later this year and sell it on ebay.

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Anyone in the U.S planning on just getting the international version and not worrying about LTE? I am leaning towards the international version because of the processor and probably better rom support.
I have an international s2 right now and I am not sure I really care about lte speed when it's barely supported right now. I guess the only real issue would be the huge price difference.
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I have pre ordered mine already as I have T-Mobile wthout LTE... I will however switch my order from blue to white as soon as its an option.
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I need to correct myself, there is an update in spec, and it won't suport T-Mo 3G. gsmarena
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Shiiiii
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To each their own.

I am on AT&T and we are about to get LTE but I really don't care. I am a WiFi consumer 99.99999% of the time so I would rather have this phone with the hopes I will get updates to JB in the fall quicker and that the ROMS will come faster.

International.
I live in Northern part of LA, we have 4G LTE with ATT. But I always have wifi available where ever I go, even work. I'd rather have a better processor, ROM support, faster updates than 4G LTE that I'll honestly hardly ever use. I guess I'm fine with ATT FAKE 4G.

djsaad1 said:
Anyone in the U.S planning on just getting the international version and not worrying about LTE? I am leaning towards the international version because of the processor and probably better rom support.
I have an international s2 right now and I am not sure I really care about lte speed when it's barely supported right now. I guess the only real issue would be the huge price difference.
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I already decided to skip LTE with the N7000. I don;t use enough carrier data to need it. I prefer the MediaNet $10 UL data. I barely use 1GB a month. Enough to have to pay $30 but not enough to get "value" for that money. I use WiFi almost 100% of the time. 3G+ can stream video without issues. I am ok with that.
LTE is probably great for those who have or don't want to pay for Home Intermet Service and tethers. I have no use for it at this time.
Tough to go back to carrier branded after having the more widely spread international versions.

I may get rid of my at&t Note, and use whatever funds I receive from that to get 1 of these intl versions.
Or, I might just get an intl Note instead...if the screen size and s-pen really is a good reason for why I want to stay Note.

Will the international version work with Tmobile? pros and cons?
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Who would sell the International versions to the US?
EDIT: seems like Amazon might. I wonder when they would get their hands on it.

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Who would sell the International versions to the US?
EDIT: seems like Amazon might. I wonder when they would get their hands on it.
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amazon, expansys, gummobile, handtech, negri, there are a lot of stores that ship to the u.s.

Newegg might sell it too...

Do you guys think the sites above would sell the international version the 29th?

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Do you guys think the sites above would sell the international version the 29th?
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negri and onthegosolutions might send it out on release date. amazon is def not one of the sites that gets the phones on release day.

How to get hold of the S4 Octa?

This week I'm upgrading and will go for the S4. I live in the UK and will go onto Vodafone, however I will be open to switch carriers. I understand there are 3 variants of the S4 the Korean, International and UK/US. And the latter being the Gt-i9505, with the Snapdragon 600 and Adreno 320, while the International is the Gt-i9500, which has the Octa chip and PowerVR SGX 544MP3, yeah I know people will tell me there is virtually no difference, however I'm interested in buying the i9500 as I'd like to see what such a chipset can do, and more so to the point, I dont want to spend so much money and not even be the best (me being me). So my question is, where can I buy on contract an S4 i9500, the 3g version? As after searching all the carriers websites I cannot find one anywhere, and the area I live anyway will never see 4g, so whats the point? If its impossible to get one through a carrier, is there anyway to find one without a £550 upfront cost? As buying the 505 would be pointless, as I wont buy the 4g deal, so I'll have a 4g capable phone which I cant use, in an area it wont appear, with a worse processor and GPU. If it is totally impossible I'll accept that however I like choices and as a buyer spending this much I would like a choice..
Thanks in advance for any answers!

I'm intersted in this too . .specially now that the AT&T S4 has the bootloader locked.
Does international (Octa) have LTE?

keplenk said:
I'm intersted in this too . .specially now that the AT&T S4 has the bootloader locked.
Does international (Octa) have LTE?
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No the international (Octa) (aka i9500) does not support LTE
You can find the international octa @ Expansys & Negri

If u in L.a u can buy from this guy http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/mob/3768900703.html
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No the international (Octa) (aka i9500) does not support LTE
You can find the international octa @ Expansys & Negri
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jeffs99 said:
No the international (Octa) (aka i9500) does not support LTE
You can find the international octa @ Expansys & Negri
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I dont even need LTE, so theres no point in getting the S4 with LTE which is worse .. will it be released in time? Or will i need to pay full price?

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I dont even need LTE, so theres no point in getting the S4 with LTE which is worse .. will it be released in time? Or will i need to pay full price?
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No one can say for sure, but you'll likely need to get the 9500 from an online retailer or another carrier. Samsung has yet to put the LTE radio in its Exynos SoC (system on a chip - what powers the 9500) so that's not going to happen mid-release for the Galaxy S4. And its highly unlikely they are going to release an LTE-enabled one and non-LTE one onto the same carrier in the same market. That just creates buyer confusion.

Only thing is for you "best of the best" types, the octa will run on the arm 7 chip most of the time. So in reality the snapdragon version is better, unless of course you just get off on running benchmarks all day. The arm 15 is the best but what's the point if it never gets used? Just my opinion, I have no right to tell anyone what they need. I WANT LTE, but all I really need is a big screen, email and a decent talker.
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Only thing is for you "best of the best" types, the octa will run on the arm 7 chip most of the time. So in reality the snapdragon version is better, unless of course you just get off on running benchmarks all day. The arm 15 is the best but what's the point if it never gets used? Just my opinion, I have no right to tell anyone what they need. I WANT LTE, but all I really need is a big screen, email and a decent talker.
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I see what you mean, and I've been checking performance numbers of both the sxg 544mp3 and Adreno 320, and it's pretty similar.. so I feel pretty happy to get the 9505. It seemed great in the shop, far smoother than my S3, thanks for everyones help:good:

[Q] korean shopping fever, did i make a mistake?

i was walking around yongsan in seoul and i ended up buying a new s4 for something around 700$, is it too much? i don't know but what worries me now it's if i can use this thing in europe. Do i?
even just a software update needs a local sim card, now i'm sure that i can't have back my money but at least i can try to switch between the different version sold here in korea: SHV-E300S, SHV-E300K, SHV-E300L (actually i have the one named SHV-E300S)
wich one do you suggest is the most appropriate to use in europe or canada?

Good news/bad news. The good news is that you might be able to sell it for more than you paid for it.
The bad news is the bands on the SKT version you bought aren't compatible with the U.S. carriers. Although you'll get HSPA+ data on T-Mobile in markets they refarmed. I think the Korean carriers use different bands so I don't know if flashing another ROM on it will allow those bands to be exposed. It won't if they are h/w specific.
Here's what you bought.
http://www.samsung.com/sec/consumer/mobile-phone/mobile-phone/skt/SHV-E300SDS3SC-spec

Seems too pricy. My friend bought a second hand in yongsan for 520k won.
It is 32GB internal memory.
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Good news/bad news. The good news is that you might be able to sell it for more than you paid for it.
The bad news is the bands on the SKT version you bought aren't compatible with the U.S. carriers. Although you'll get HSPA+ data on T-Mobile in markets they refarmed. I think the Korean carriers use different bands so I don't know if flashing another ROM on it will allow those bands to be exposed. It won't if they are h/w specific.
Here's what you bought.
http://www.samsung.com/sec/consumer/mobile-phone/mobile-phone/skt/SHV-E300SDS3SC-spec
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Well in fact, your good news is a bad news and your bad news could be changed to a good new.
The guy you mentionned on ebay still sell the octa core lte for 1180 dollars, which is totally crazy. He doesn't realize that the octa core one's processor is totally broken and doesn't work properly as Samsung expected and that the price of the octa core has dropped a lot in the past month. You just need to know how to search on ebay and which seller to choose. With 70 feedback, I highly doubt that the crazy guy you mentionned is trustable. Here is what you can get for only 829 dollars now.
http://www.ebay.fr/itm/NEW-UNLOCKED...ell_Phones&hash=item4ac555263f#ht_3024wt_1393
This guy doesn't know that the new Snapdragon 800 LTE Advanced galaxy S4 will be available very very soon at the end of this month. You should know that the Snapdragon 800 scored 35000 points in Antutu benchmark and 21000 in quadrant(against Exynos 5410 27000 in antutu and 12000 in quadrant). So the Exynos 5410 one will cost nothing. I just hope that you can sell yours for 700$,
Concerning the LTE bands problem, a lot of E300 buyers have mentionned that they successfully found some hidden option in the phone, and managed to switch the band to the US band thanks to some application that I forgot the name. Just search in the general E300 owner section.