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Ok, maybe this is n00bish but Ive never had a nexus device.
On my gs1, tf700 and such everything is flashed from the microsd card. If this device doesnt have one, how do you flash without loosing data?
Ive always learned, 1 wipe data, cache etc. 2. Flash rom/kernel (sometimes 3 wipe again)
Wont this clear your phones storage? This is a HUGE selling factor for me.
Im due for a upgrade outa pocket and I cant decide from GS3, Nexus 4, Note 2 or holding out for rumored gs4
Thanks guys
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Clear Data does not wipe internal storage, just apps+data. If you were doing that, first back up using Titanium Backup, flash new ROM, restore from TiBU, PROFIT!!!
For backing up text messages, theres an app, though I can't remember the name.
Isnt there also an option that wipes everything? Factory reset or whatever. It cleans the rom and all I thought. Thats how we avoid bugs from rom hopping? Like I said Im n00b in nexusville but vanilla jellybeans sound delicious
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There's separate partitions on the phone. Part for the system, part for your data, and then basically an internal SD Card. You would wipe the same way you would on any other phone: Wipe data/factory reset, format boot, system, cache, data, dalvik cache, etc, then flash your ROM. Your "internal" SD card will be untouched.
At least that's how I assume it would work...
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kcls said:
There's separate partitions on the phone. Part for the system, part for your data, and then basically an internal SD Card. You would wipe the same way you would on any other phone: Wipe data/factory reset, format boot, system, cache, data, dalvik cache, etc, then flash your ROM. Your "internal" SD card will be untouched.
At least that's how I assume it would work...
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Yup thats how it works. 'SD Card' partition is untouched during a wipe (though the bootloader unlock command will wipe absolutely everything, you just use that once when you first get the phone and its all good).
anirudh412 said:
Clear Data does not wipe internal storage, just apps+data. If you were doing that, first back up using Titanium Backup, flash new ROM, restore from TiBU, PROFIT!!!
For backing up text messages, theres an app, though I can't remember the name.
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SMS Backup and restore
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Lord Syrics Jr. said:
Isnt there also an option that wipes everything? Factory reset or whatever. It cleans the rom and all I thought. Thats how we avoid bugs from rom hopping? Like I said Im n00b in nexusville but vanilla jellybeans sound delicious
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You are correct. But factory reset/ clear data even though wipes the phone clean, the 'internal SD card partition' isn't wiped. Meaning you would still have your pictures, videos and such. And also backup files. So once you do that and boot into the new rom, install TiBU from the market and restore your backup.
For a complete and 'true' wipe, as someone already mentioned, you could use ODIN/ Toolkit. Someone correct me if I am wrong.
Using TWRP. You can wipe: cache, dalvik, factory reset, system. You can wipe all of those and your internal store will not be wiped. Now with TWRP you can also wipe internal and external storage, do that and you will be SOL.
In my previous phone (which had an SD card) I placed both, the ROM and Gapps in the SD before wiping data. But in the nexus, if I wipe data, won't I lose the ROM and Gapps zip no matter where I place it in the internal memory?
Well, it obviously won't but just to make sure, where do I put it? Anywhere? I don't wanna wipe data only to realise it wiped everything and I can't go back to stock or something
sixaxis94 said:
In my previous phone (which had an SD card) I placed both, the ROM and Gapps in the SD before wiping data. But in the nexus, if I wipe data, won't I lose the ROM and Gapps zip no matter where I place it in the internal memory?
Well, it obviously won't but just to make sure, where do I put it? Anywhere? I don't wanna wipe data only to realise it wiped everything and I can't go back to stock or something
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Firstly, what recovery are you using? Wipe Data in CWM and Wipe Data in TWRP do different things :/
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I'm used to CWM but the MSkip's toolkit recommended TWRP so I installed that.
They do different things??
sixaxis94 said:
I'm used to CWM but the MSkip's toolkit recommended TWRP so I installed that.
They do different things??
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It doesn't matter what recover you have. They have the same functionality. TWRP is widely used by many users.
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It doesn't matter what recover you have. They have the same functionality. TWRP is widely used by many users.
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Okay.. But where do I put the two files?
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It doesn't matter what recover you have. They have the same functionality. TWRP is widely used by many users.
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sixaxis94 said:
Okay.. But where do I put the two files?
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Same funtionality, but wiping data do completely different things. On CWM, wiping data means factory reset without touching the sdcard. In TWRP, wiping data means... well, see the screenshot. It's a complete factory reset, and also wipes the sdcard (so files, ROM zips and the such are all gone).
You can put the two files on your sdcard. Just put them someplace you can find them. I usually leave my zips on the root of my sdcard.
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Connor Baker said:
Same funtionality, but wiping data do completely different things. On CWM, wiping data means factory reset without touching the sdcard. In TWRP, wiping data means... well, see the screenshot. It's a complete factory reset, and also wipes the sdcard (so files, ROM zips and the such are all gone).
You can put the two files on your sdcard. Just put them someplace you can find them. I usually leave my zips on the root of my sdcard.
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Just for the sake of clarity, when you say SD card you mean internal memory obviously right?
So how do I wipe data in twrp?
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Just for the sake of clarity, when you say SD card you mean internal memory obviously right?
So how do I wipe data in twrp?
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So to wipe, go to wipe (1st photo), then do factory reset (2nd photo), and I usually do the advanced wipe after the factory reset (2nd-3rd photo). An example of what I do for my phone's roms is the 4th photo. I have the folder with the things I want to flash, and I have a backup ROM. The backup rom is incase I do a full wipe (factory reset, and wipe /system), and the zip file is bad and cannot install. So be careful, and make sure you have a good zip file before you wipe system. Once system is wiped, the Android OS is basically gone, so you can't boot into it and copy over a working ROM.
Best of luck,
Connor Baker
Connor Baker said:
Get ready for more pictures
So to wipe, go to wipe (1st photo), then do factory reset (2nd photo), and I usually do the advanced wipe after the factory reset (2nd-3rd photo). An example of what I do for my phone's roms is the 4th photo. I have the folder with the things I want to flash, and I have a backup ROM. The backup rom is incase I do a full wipe (factory reset, and wipe /system), and the zip file is bad and cannot install. So be careful, and make sure you have a good zip file before you wipe system. Once system is wiped, the Android OS is basically gone, so you can't boot into it and copy over a working ROM.
Best of luck,
Connor Baker
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Sweet! Thanks for clearing that out.. Appreciate it
I rooted with casual and have the recovery installed. My question is I supposedly full wiped and flashed Goldeneye. My issue is it didnt full wipe because when I go into internal memory all the crap that should be gone, its folders are still there taking memory so I have to manually delete. Am I doing something wrong ?
When I had my htc a full wipe meant a full wipe Everything gone. Dont understand why its not happening on my s4.
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go into recovery and do a factory reset, it will clear it.
Thanks
That dont work all the folders are still there even though the apps are not installed.
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most recoverys are set up to format data without touching the internal storage. this is a feature, not a bug. if you want to wipe internal, go to format, then format internal. easy peasy
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I rooted with casual and have the recovery installed. My question is I supposedly full wiped and flashed Goldeneye. My issue is it didnt full wipe because when I go into internal memory all the crap that should be gone, its folders are still there taking memory so I have to manually delete. Am I doing something wrong ?
When I had my htc a full wipe meant a full wipe Everything gone. Dont understand why its not happening on my s4.
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Here is what I do when I flash a ROM. I am a bit OCD for flashing cleanly.
1) Boot into Recovery
2) Wipe Data (Factory reset)
3) Wipe Cache
4) Wipe Dalvik Cache
5) Format /System
6) Format /sdcard
Then I flash my ROM. Those steps will definitely clean everything out before you flash. Especially formatting /system and /sdcard.
chocodough said:
Here is what I do when I flash a ROM. I am a bit OCD for flashing cleanly.
1) Boot into Recovery
2) Wipe Data (Factory reset)
3) Wipe Cache
4) Wipe Dalvik Cache
5) Format /System
6) Format /sdcard
Then I flash my ROM. Those steps will definitely clean everything out before you flash. Especially formatting /system and /sdcard.
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just make sure you don't have anything you care about, like Roms or nandroids, in /sdcard.
fwiw this isn't a CASUAL issue, its a TWRP issue.
Awesome was looking for the correct way to do a Total Full Wipe in recovery.
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chocodough said:
Here is what I do when I flash a ROM. I am a bit OCD for flashing cleanly.
1) Boot into Recovery
2) Wipe Data (Factory reset)
3) Wipe Cache
4) Wipe Dalvik Cache
5) Format /System
6) Format /sdcard
Then I flash my ROM. Those steps will definitely clean everything out before you flash. Especially formatting /system and /sdcard.
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It's a little over kill. Just need to wipe the caches and data. If you wipe system, just make sure you do it before you flash a rom. And make sure you flash a rom before you boot. Wiping system and then rebooting is detrimental to your phone.
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jd1639 said:
It's a little over kill. Just need to wipe the caches and data. If you wipe system, just make sure you do it before you flash a rom. And make sure you flash a rom before you boot. Wiping system and then rebooting is detrimental to your phone.
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Ya it might be a little bit overkill, but atleast this way you know everything is cleaned and wiped before you flash your ROM. I hate dirty flashing ROMS, so I prefer to be really thorough.
jd1639 said:
It's a little over kill. Just need to wipe the caches and data. If you wipe system, just make sure you do it before you flash a rom. And make sure you flash a rom before you boot. Wiping system and then rebooting is detrimental to your phone.
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It might be overkill but I like to make sure its a complete wipe even if I have to overkill it. Thanks all for the replies.
EDIT: DO NOT FORMAT INTERNAL if you have twrp the part where you have to type in yes. You will have serious issues and will end up ODIN back to stock to repair. If you format internal in twrp phone will not boot up. You can enter recover but if you power off phone will not boot up again.
Excuse my ignorance but I've been out of the game for 3 years and not familiar with TWRP as I used to use Clockwork Recovery. What do I need to wipe when preparing to install a custom ROM? Do I just hit factory reset in TWRP or do I advance wipe?
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Wipe everything other than the partition you have the custom ROM on, so if your custom ROM is on external SD, wipe and format the whole internal
When upgrading from the same custom ROM to a newer version, you only need to wipe System and Caches
*Detection* said:
Wipe everything other than the partition you have the custom ROM on, so if your custom ROM is on external SD, wipe and format the whole internal
When upgrading from the same custom ROM to a newer version, you only need to wipe System and Caches
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It lets me wipe:
- Davik cache
- Cache
- System
- Internal Storage
- Data
So I should wipe everything but system or?
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You need to wipe everything, sometimes internal storage, sometimes not. I wipe everything including internal storage though, as a lot of unneeded files are kept there. Just transfer what you want to keep to your pc or external card.
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You need to wipe everything, sometimes internal storage, sometimes not. I wipe everything including internal storage though, as a lot of unneeded files are kept there. Just transfer what you want to keep to your pc or external card.
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Thanks [emoji1]
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Hey guys. I have TWRP 2.8.7.2 installed. I've been using Pure Nexus + Elemental X exclusively since December. This never seemed to be a problem before, but my last few flashes have resulted in sticky data. I go into TWRP, advanced wipe and wipe: DALVIK, System, data, Cache. Then, I delete Android from the internal storage and any other app directories that linger. Then I install the ROM, GApps, and kernel. Then, when I first boot my email shows up in the Google account setup. I thought "maybe it's saved on the sim card." But then I notice that when I reinstall apps, that they retain their data and my user data (for example, I don't even need to log into Runkeeper).
So somehow, despite performing a full wipe and clean install my user data is being saved. I know it's not part of internal storage so wiping that would only result in me having to copy my ROM files, music, photos, etc back over. So, where is this user data being saved and why isn't it being wiped?
Any help would be appreciated.
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Hey guys. I have TWRP 2.8.7.2 installed. I've been using Pure Nexus + Elemental X exclusively since December. This never seemed to be a problem before, but my last few flashes have resulted in sticky data. I go into TWRP, advanced wipe and wipe: DALVIK, System, data, Cache. Then, I delete Android from the internal storage and any other app directories that linger. Then I install the ROM, GApps, and kernel. Then, when I first boot my email shows up in the Google account setup. I thought "maybe it's saved on the sim card." But then I notice that when I reinstall apps, that they retain their data and my user data (for example, I don't even need to log into Runkeeper).
So somehow, despite performing a full wipe and clean install my user data is being saved. I know it's not part of internal storage so wiping that would only result in me having to copy my ROM files, music, photos, etc back over. So, where is this user data being saved and why isn't it being wiped?
Any help would be appreciated.
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I'm not sure why this is happening, it's definitely word. But is there a reason you're wiping like this when updating the ROM? You really don't need to, you can just dirty flash the ROM zip when updating.
Heisenberg said:
I'm not sure why this is happening, it's definitely word. But is there a reason you're wiping like this when updating the ROM? You really don't need to, you can just dirty flash the ROM zip when updating.
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I don't like to dirty wipe. I guess it's the OCD in me that likes to start clean every time. I wonder if it's a bug in TWRP or something.
jserio said:
I don't like to dirty wipe. I guess it's the OCD in me that likes to start clean every time. I wonder if it's a bug in TWRP or something.
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I used to do the same thing, until I realised I was just wasting time for no benefit. I don't think it's a TWRP issue, I was using that same build for ages with no problems. You could try updating to the latest TWRP though.
Try with "rm - fr" instead of regular wipe in options, maybe this works.
Are you doing a Factory Reset in TWRP to actually wipe the rom away? You list system, cache, and data (internal storage) but not Factory Reset.
Alternatively, are your apps reinstalling after signing into your account at Setup Wizard?
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Try wiping system 2x. I had to do this on my S6. After wiping the first time and going back to the advance menu, System would then show up as 2 different partitions, System Read and System Write. I had to wipe the 2 in order to do a clean install. Although this is not the case for the 6P, I have made it a habit to do so. If that fails, you will need to adb the factory image.
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SlimSnoopOS said:
Are you doing a Factory Reset in TWRP to actually wipe the rom away? You list system, cache, and data (internal storage) but not Factory Reset.
Alternatively, are your apps reinstalling after signing into your account at Setup Wizard?
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He's already performing a factory reset by wiping the partitions individually.
Heisenberg said:
He's already performing a factory reset by wiping the partitions individually.
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That's what you would think, but why is this happening?
FWIW, I always TWRP factory reset, then wipe all the partitions he mentioned again by itself and have never seen this behavior on any version of TWRP.
farfromovin said:
That's what you would think, but why is this happening?
FWIW, I always TWRP factory reset, then wipe all the partitions he mentioned again by itself and have never seen this behavior on any version of TWRP.
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I have no explanation for what's happening, I really don't know. I only ever use the advanced wipe menu, it's pointless performing the factory reset too.