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Finally N1 or Desire?

Now that some Desire got unleashed in the market, I still don't know what to choose
The single(but very important) annoying thing I have found with N1 is the speaker, Desire has a loud speaker giving actual owners point of view but nobody compared it actually to N1. So if somebody knows if a difference exist and if it's a big one please help me decide

I would never recommend the N1,I am having the worst signal ever,the worst fluctuation.
This is just my personal experience with this device,I am sure others will have better ones.

vegetaleb said:
Now that some Desire got unleashed in the market, I still don't know what to choose
The single(but very important) annoying thing I have found with N1 is the speaker, Desire has a loud speaker giving actual owners point of view but nobody compared it actually to N1. So if somebody knows if a difference exist and if it's a big one please help me decide
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Veg,
Tough call for I, too, was going to wait for the Desire but A) I have no idea WHEN it's going to be released in the U.S. and B) if it'll be available for ATT users. So I got me a N1. So far, so good. I've had no problems and love the darn thing. I'm in Denver and the signal is fine.

Can you hear your N1 ringing if you are in a noisy gym room for exemple?
I heard the speaker is weak because it's at the rear and when posing it on a table it's that that meaking it ''un-hearable''
It seems the Desire suffers the same speaker location righ?

get a Nexus One, and the root it, and install the MoDaCo Desire ROM onto it... best of everything

Got no problem with my Nexus One. Very happy with it

Tmobile nexus one here.. no problems I love it... now tmobile could use more coverage bit thats a new story

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Tmobile nexus one here.. no problems I love it... now tmobile could use more coverage bit thats a new story
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exactly, blame tmobile not the lovely n1!!!

The Desire is the better phone

So nobody can clearly say that Desire is louder than N1(biggest problem of N1)?

i have never had a problem not hearing my n1 ring, in pocket or on table etc

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So nobody can clearly say that Desire is louder than N1(biggest problem of N1)?
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well there is an audio hack to increase the loudness (is that a word?) of the speaker

It's for the earpiece voice speaker not ringtones speaker

Man... My N1 scares the sh!t outta me when I forget to turn it down. Now, that's only in my bedroom, but man that thing catches me off guard.
Who knows though... Maybe I just have a loud ringtone.

Blah......

For some reason GSMarena gave the N1's loudspeaker a pretty good score. I found that the max volume of loudspeaker is disproportionally higher that the volume one notch down. At 50% the volume is actually very poor even in a quiet room. This makes me think that the loudspeaker is actually capable of producing loud volume but for some reason it is not doing what it is fully capable of.

Hehe this is exactly what I was saying, ringtones have poor volume on N1.
but NexusDros does it feel low even if the speaker is not toward a table?

I wouldn't say low. But definitely not as loud as my Nokia N85.

all ive gotta say is if the desire has a better touch screen that actually works well and doesnt mess up in the visual test app with the 2 dots... I will have my nexus one up for sale

I'm not really getting what this touchsreen issue thing is... I (luckily) have had not one problem. Don't know what all this buzz is about..

Nexus S call volume

Hi guys how is NS call volume really interested in purchasing one. I have x10 terrible call volume can't hear nothing. I wonder if it has to do with android? Or maybe x10 and how is NS compare to x10 call volume wise. Thanks
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sofia-captivate said:
Hi guys how is NS call volume really interested in purchasing one. I have x10 terrible call volume can't hear nothing. I wonder if it has to do with android? Or maybe x10 and how is NS compare to x10 call volume wise. Thanks
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In-call volume on my Nexus S is good. I once had a Sony-Ericsson T610 and the in-call volume was so low (even with hands-free), I swore to never have one again.

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Hi guys how is NS call volume really interested in purchasing one.
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I picked up the Nexus S Friday on Rogers and call quality and volume are important factors for me - I can't stand a quiet phone in a noisy environment. For example the iPhone 3G volume wasn't loud enough in a bar. Earpiece call volume at maximum is similar to the iPhone 4 or HTC Desire with Froyo but not as loud as the Motorola Atrix. Call quality is decent as well. Speaker volume is fairly good too but not as loud as the iPhone 4. And since it's a tiny speaker quality isn't the best, but it's good enough for handsfree in the car with the windows up. I was a little concerned about the volume, but once I used the Nexus S demo for a few minutes to confirm performance and call quality, I bought the phone.

sofia-captivate said:
Hi guys how is NS call volume really interested in purchasing one. I have x10 terrible call volume can't hear nothing. I wonder if it has to do with android? Or maybe x10 and how is NS compare to x10 call volume wise. Thanks
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My previous phone was an X10i and definitely the call volume in the Nexus S is far better. You can actually hear it. On my X10, unless my ear was right next were the sound output was I couldn't hear anything and even when my ear was right there it was difficult to make out what was being said.
The speaker phone on the X10 can be heard, but still the Nexus S is much louder and the voice quality is better than the X10.

Well, it really depends on every ACTUAL phone. Why ? I've first bought the Nexus S i9023, European version. Even at the highest ear-piece volume, it was soooo quiet I couldn't hear a god damn word. I had to put my girlfriend to yell at me every time we spoke at the phone. Returned it, bought a US i9020 version. Clear and crisp, as loud as my previous HTC Desire. I've searched for this bug on Google and found that many handsets from different producers have this. Some users have low ear-piece volume at high setting, some of them have HIGH ear-piece volume at low setting (as high as if the ear-piece was like the load-speaker on the back). Dunno why.
So yea, it really depends on each handset. I would strongly suggest to test right after buying, if not preferably when actually in the store.

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Well, it really depends on every ACTUAL phone. So yea, it really depends on each handset. I would strongly suggest to test right after buying, if not preferably when actually in the store.
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A manufacturing defect is one thing and rare these days when compared to the amount of devices being manufactured. Any device you buy runs the risk of being defective. The question here is if the Nexus S is generally expected to have good call volume, and the answer is yes. As for the model differences, the display and radios are different parts in the 9020 & 9023, but the earpiece and driver should be the same in all Nexus S models and have the same output.

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A manufacturing defect is one thing and rare these days when compared to the amount of devices being manufactured. Any device you buy runs the risk of being defective. The question here is if the Nexus S is generally expected to have good call volume, and the answer is yes. As for the model differences, the display and radios are different parts in the 9020 & 9023, but the earpiece and driver should be the same in all Nexus S models and have the same output.
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There MUST be a difference in some of these phones because there is NO possible way anyone could ever complain that the earpiece volume was too loud or high on my Nexus S - NAM version

My nexus S seems very quiet compared to my iP4 even at max settings. Is there a way to manually boost the volume limit through voodoo or something?

many people have said the nexus s volume was too low. how come there has not been an audio boost in cyanogen like there has been for other phones?

The call volume is acceptable. Just don't expect whomever you're on the phone with to hear you clearly if there's a lot of noise around you.
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but the earpiece and driver should be the same in all Nexus S models and have the same output.
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Well yea, they SHOULD have the same volume. But that doesn't mean a i9023 phone can't have a "broken" earpiece with low volume.
Anyway, I think you got me wrong. I didn't suggest that the i9020 was fine and the i9023 has crappy earpiece. No. I just said that MY OWN i9023 had problems. Not that ALL i9023 have problems.
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found that many handsets from different producers have this
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, like Sony Ericsson, etc. Just Google it and you'll find some threads.
So, because some of the phones have this problem (not all of them), then that's why I suggested a replacement from the seller.

Ohh I taught it has something to do with android os low call volume
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the nexus s in call quality overall is quite good, however many users are reporting either extremely low or high volume from the normal forward facing speaker. its been about 5 months since the device was released and only now the ppl at cm are looking into resolving it

Does anyone think the speakers on the Nexus 7 are terrible??

I was playing some music and as soon as I turn it up past half, the speakers sound like they are crackling....not sure if thats normal, but it sounds terrible....its ok if i keep turned down...I had a simiar problem with my Asus transformer pad before i sold it....

Mine are perfectly fine when cranked up loud - maybe yours are defective? Otherwise, get a small mobile speaker, they sound much better than stock The XMI X-Mini speakers are great attached to the nexus, and small to carry around.

No issues with mine at all, sounds prertty decent full volume here
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I actually find the speakers to be better than I expected.

The speaker is not terrible but it's not the best. It all depends on the quality of audio you're listening to. The sound on my device can be very low or the volume and sound quality can sound perfect, or all depends.
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My speakers are actually pretty good. I was surprised as well as others were.
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one028 said:
I was playing some music and as soon as I turn it up past half, the speakers sound like they are crackling....not sure if thats normal, but it sounds terrible....its ok if i keep turned down...I had a simiar problem with my Asus transformer pad before i sold it....
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What I would do is play the song paradise in Google music ( it came free with mine). Turn it up medium then high and listen too the quality. Mine has no problems at all so if it is crackling, it is most probably a defect.
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I found volume on the three N7's I tried to be quite low both on the external speakers and out the headphone jack. I didn't experience any distortion, however.

Coming from the Galaxy Nexus where it's pretty low and under-performing, I found the N7 very refreshing to hear since it was pretty loud and decent.

No problems here. Was actually surprised with both the speaker and headphones after reading the thread about substandard audio components.

one028 said:
I was playing some music and as soon as I turn it up past half, the speakers sound like they are crackling....not sure if thats normal, but it sounds terrible....its ok if i keep turned down...I had a simiar problem with my Asus transformer pad before i sold it....
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I've actually been impressed with the speakers, even at high volume.

General tip with any speakers and headphones : they have to be warmed up. They will all sound terrible out of the box but once they "warm up" they will sound better. The process can take weeks. Be patient with it
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one028 said:
I was playing some music and as soon as I turn it up past half, the speakers sound like they are crackling....not sure if thats normal, but it sounds terrible....its ok if i keep turned down...I had a simiar problem with my Asus transformer pad before i sold it....
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I've seen the crackling problem before, might wanna get a replacement
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one028 said:
I was playing some music and as soon as I turn it up past half, the speakers sound like they are crackling....not sure if thats normal, but it sounds terrible....its ok if i keep turned down...I had a simiar problem with my Asus transformer pad before i sold it....
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yours defective. mine too. i had to ask for a replacement.
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General tip with any speakers and headphones : they have to be warmed up. They will all sound terrible out of the box but once they "warm up" they will sound better. The process can take weeks. Be patient with it
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that's just bad ****in hardware design.
but thank u for the tip, i will try not to crank up my volume for the first couple of weeks. mine was good for a few days, then after a week, watched Wall-E at 70% volume and its cracking up. under 50% is safe. another week of i-dont-want-to-get-a-defect-replacement-instead, its still cracking full of distortion at anything above 50% volume. games, movies, videos. i couldn't stand it anymore. replacement should be coming tomorrow, we'll see.

I think the speakers are better than I thought in the first place.

I think the speakers are poor. My expectations weren't high but ive heard much better on other tablets. This is in regards to the quality as well as the amplification.
For youtube videos, etc its fine, for anything else you need a pair of iems or headphones

As expected for the size and price. I am happy with them. Check different positions. When I lie it on its back against my counter top it sounds much more full.
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Speaker on Nexus 7 definitely defective
Mine was definitely defective. Not sure whether it failed with use, or if it arrived that way. Exchanged tablet for new - speaker sounds great. Will re-post if it fails with continued use.

They are very weak, I can barely hear them most of the time, but some games seem to be louder than anything for some reason, it's quite weird, not a huge fan of them.

No issues with my speakers. They are as good as they get on tablets.

[Q] NexusLouder Testers.

If anything I've been working on purely all nexus devices to improve the way users listen to their device and music.
I just wanted to know if anyone can be kind enough to let me know how the N10 fares in general with it's audio quality and what audio chipset does it run.
Ofcourse I've created a test dump for the N10 but I don't know anyone on my side who has an N10. I would like someone to test it since this is the best place to refer to. Rest assured, bootloop free.
Much regards,
Misledz

http://www.samsung.com/global/busin...Exynos_5_Dual_User_Manaul_Public_REV100-0.pdf
Does this help?

In my opinion, it's pretty mediocre. It definitely didn't sound louder to me than the iPad, despite having Stereo out. Disappointing, really.
I can barely hear some movies on the DICE player and I don't know what's causing it. Some other movies are fine.

Valynor said:
http://www.samsung.com/global/busin...Exynos_5_Dual_User_Manaul_Public_REV100-0.pdf
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Hmm it does actually, as usual the audio chipset being the one they cut down to make it cheaper.
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In my opinion, it's pretty mediocre. It definitely didn't sound louder to me than the iPad, despite having Stereo out. Disappointing, really.
I can barely hear some movies on the DICE player and I don't know what's causing it. Some other movies are fine.
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Yeah it seems majority of the Nexus devices suffer this. Infact all at this rate, considering the Nexus S was to involved without Voodoo. :crying:

I think with these newer devicesthe only way to get respectable sound is with Bluetooth or wired external speakers.
I love my ICS phone and listened to the Nexus 7 - great devices. But audio is weak.
What bothers me about the Nexus 10 audio is the speakers.
Even as a kid nothing screamed snake oil to me more than huge grills that hid tiny speaker cones.
That's what you get with Nexus 10 as well.
Behind each grill is one tiny speaker radiator at the top of the grill.
The rest of the long speaker grill is just for looks (or sales)
External speakers all the way

sound
I think it sounds fine. The speakers on it are actually descent and I have nice headphones so that works fine for me as well.

I've got a test build up for trials. Anyone want to test it before I make the thread in N10 Themes SECTION? Thanks for the feedback, helps improve certain fields.
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I personally think the Nexus 10 sounds pretty good with headphones. I believe it has a Wolfson WM1811 chip.
I have it plugged in with an ATH-m50 and a Fiio E5. Tweaked with the 10-band equalizer from Poweramp, and it sounded pretty good. It's certainly not the best I've listened to (the Cowon S9 sounds better still), but it's good enough to replace my S9 simply because the Nexus is much more hassle free in general.
The sound is definitely missing something though. Not exactly sure what it is.

Misledz said:
I've got a test build up for trials. Anyone want to test it before I make the thread in N10 Themes SECTION? Thanks for the feedback, helps improve certain fields.
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I might suggest you guys follow Misledz! I use his mod on both a GNex & N7. Fantastic. I consider it a must have. Makes anything a pure joy to listen to.
I'll be glad to test. I'm unboxing & rooting today
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djd338 said:
I might suggest you guys follow Misledz! I use his mod on both a GNex & N7. Fantastic. I consider it a must have. Makes anything a pure joy to listen to.
I'll be glad to test. I'm unboxing & rooting today! I assure you its safe
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You got an N10? And I have a build. I'll send the test build later in your inbox
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To me the speakers on it are the best I've heard from any tablet since its front facing and it kinda has a slight surround sound effect since there is one speaker on each side of the tablet. Also the volume is loud enough to where nobody should have a problem hearing it and if you do get a hearing aid. The volume isn't so loud you can go deaf but its loud enough to where everyone in the room should be able to hear it.

The speakers sound pretty good with a bit of EQ. CyanogenMod's DSPManager is perfect for this since you can selectively EQ only the speakers.
Headphone quality is even better. Much, much better than the Galaxy Nexus and on par with some of the best Android devices.

Well I've sent a test build to a few members already let's see how that fares with comparison to stock loudness.
But I do thank you for the feedbacks, much appreciated!
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I'm no audiophile, but the Nexus 10 sounds pretty amazing, compared to the other devices and equipment I've used previously anyway.
I like natural-sounding audio without any DSP enhancements like Bass Boost and whatnot

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I'm no audiophile, but the Nexus 10 sounds pretty amazing, compared to the other devices and equipment I've used previously anyway.
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Well it's got quite the chipset. But I'm sure they sacrificed something, Nexus devices usually sacrifice one thing. Audio, or hardware or something.
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Well it's got quite the chipset. But I'm sure they sacrificed something, Nexus devices usually sacrifice one thing. Audio, or hardware or something.
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Maybe the screen? While the resolution is there, the screen itself isn't top-tier beautiful.

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Well it's got quite the chipset. But I'm sure they sacrificed something, Nexus devices usually sacrifice one thing. Audio, or hardware or something.
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I've read here somewhere that the microphone isn't amazing quality.

I wouldn't be surprised if the N10 sound can be improved, but I was actually very pleasantly surprised listening to music, movies, etc on mine, as the sound blows away any other tablet I've used to date, blows away my 15" ASUS laptop (3 different models in our house, none of which sound as good as the stock N10). I've seen a few people complain that the size of the speaker slots is misleading, and somehow implies that the speakers are larger than they really are, as can be seen in tear-down photos. I haven't done any serious homework into this -- but I'm wondering if the elongated speaker grills actually server as vents, effectively turning the housing into a slot-vented speaker cabinet.

How do you plan (in detail) to improve the sound on this tablet? Are you going to just make it louder or actually do tweaks to improve the sound? If you are just making things lower, how do you plan on making it louder? A simple voltage increase? Or something more sophisticated?

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How do you plan (in detail) to improve the sound on this tablet? Are you going to just make it louder or actually do tweaks to improve the sound? If you are just making things lower, how do you plan on making it louder? A simple voltage increase? Or something more sophisticated?
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Tweaks to improve the sound, since as you said the hardware is pretty good, louder is one thing if its needed, else controlled loudness is fine. In terms of libset, voltage increase is pushing it sounds alot more dangerous and doubt it will be tested :victory:

Phone call quality

Got my nexus 4 during the first launch and apparently when I use it as a phone the people on the other end have a tough time hearing me. It doesn't happen all the time but people say I sound far away and they ask if I've moved or not but I'm in the exact same position for the duration if the call!
Also, I get the same complaint while on speaker phone.
Does anyone else have these problems?
I'm sure its not the network I'm using either since I'm on Telus in Toronto and I have full bars when talking.
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Haven't heard a complaint yet. How's your signal when you are hearing complaints?
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Voice Quality
maxpowerxiii said:
Got my nexus 4 during the first launch and apparently when I use it as a phone the people on the other end have a tough time hearing me. It doesn't happen all the time but people say I sound far away and they ask if I've moved or not but I'm in the exact same position for the duration if the call!
Also, I get the same complaint while on speaker phone.
Does anyone else have these problems?
I'm sure its not the network I'm using either since I'm on Telus in Toronto and I have full bars when talking.
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I can tell you that people are commenting on how clear and crisp my voice sounds.
Either speakerphone, Bluetooth car or regular phone all are excellent call quality.
Much better then my old SGS3.
CC

are you saying that you actually hold the nexus 4 up to your ear and talk into the thing?!?!
do you know what year it is??

Clear and crisp on both ends. No issues hearing people and haven't heard anyone say my end is faint/distorted or anything.

My call quality is awesome, much better than my one X - but the main thing you notice is the volume - its nice and loud. (some would say too loud, but you can always turn it down if you think so)
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are you saying that you actually hold the nexus 4 up to your ear and talk into the thing?!?!
do you know what year it is??
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I know, right? Who uses a phone for a phone any more??
But in all seriousness. I'm wondering if I have a bad speaker or something. Everything else with the phone is fine. A slight buzzing in the earpiece but that's only if I'm using it as a phone but it doesn't bother me. Also, no rattling whatsoever.
The signal quality is fine when during the call. Full bars.
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Ogg said:
are you saying that you actually hold the nexus 4 up to your ear and talk into the thing?!?!
do you know what year it is??
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Why does your third post ever have to be so offensive? You haven't talked on a phone for 5 years?

I think I got the same call quality problem. It sounds even worst than my old ATT captivate.

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Why does your third post ever have to be so offensive? You haven't talked on a phone for 5 years?
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He was obviously kidding, which the op got. All good. :thumbup:

chrisjcks said:
My call quality is awesome, much better than my one X - but the main thing you notice is the volume - its nice and loud. (some would say too loud, but you can always turn it down if you think so)
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This....
'effin speaker made me deaf the first time someone called me and spoke into the phone
if you have buzzing...that might be an indication of a bad speaker... I just placed a call to / from my phone for you as a test to be sure..
crisp, clear and NO buzzing. ever.

Yes, I have the same issue. People can't hear me as it constantly cuts out, and when it doesn't cut out, it sounds like I'm far away. It's so bad that some people have said "your new phone is a piece of crap!" and in general it's not possible to have a conversation. This has happened in several cities and places where my old htc inspire never had any issues.
I've been waiting for google to send me a new one, but it hasn't arrived yet. Also their customer service has no tools or authority to do anything, except for "sending an email to a specialist."
When I've called them about the RMA and to complain, I've done it from my Nexus phone and they constantly ask me to repeat. When I explain the issue they seem somewhat sympathetic.

^^ Stock rom & kernel?

Today i got my Nexus4 and have the same issues.
People tell me that i sound far away and some weren't able to understand me. My speaker (that one holding to the ear) sounds like an old Nokia with distortion from the wireless signal (induction). Sound chip tends to cut out people on the other end and it sounds like a "bumping volume". I have the same tested on my iPhone 5 and people also tend to sound like "bumping volume" but not that bad as on the Nexus 4. This is clearly a software issue (compressor).
Well i think i have to return my Nexus 4. Cheap doesn't always pay off in terms of quality

100% stock here. Turns out they're shipping me a new one and it should here tomorrow afternoon. So we will see if that one is better.

Got new phone, works now, everyone can hear me fine.

I get complaints anytime I use speakerphone. The caller on the remote end says my audio is choppy and sounds like I am far away. I've been holding out on doing a RMA hoping it will be fixed in a software update. I've tested my mic using different recording apps and the audio playback sounds very clear. I'm wondering if the issue is related to the noise cancelation that takes place when in a call.
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three letters. APN

phermey said:
three letters. APN
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Care to explain?
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solvingchaos said:
Care to explain?
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Sure thing. 99% of all call and data quality issues on this phone is due to the APN never being set. Or put in improperly. Most peeps think that inserting the sim is all they have to do.