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i have a question
(sorry for my english... Thanks)
we have a list of native apps and content (sound. etc).
these apps are not used by many people
idea:
* make a script for remove (/move to sdcard/backup) and restore
functions of script:
- manual selection of content to delete
- press on key to run this task
- press on key to restore content
write answers with variants of the script please
There is an app in the market, "Unistaller for Root", which can remove or remove and back up your stock apps (and the normall ones). It is very usefull since it removes and back up your apps to your SDcard in a folder with one click/touch .
P.S.: As the name of the app say, it is only for rooted phones...
Well, yes. This is almost what is needed.
...I am personally very well do this manually, since Linux file system - for me as a native home. But many users are forced to use a utility such as that on which it is written above and Root-explorer to remove other content.
It is often forgotten backups. Outcome - flashing through SEUS or other flashers...
Just wanted to make it to the Russian-speaking users who wish to perform these operations with the explanation of each item ...
Plus the removal of media
such as: ringtones. alarms. notifications. wallpapers, etc.
In terms of script it is easier because you can always translate to the language you want the signature to act
echo "bla-bla-bla "
I only need a sample file with commands to move, at least, 3 files, with a choice and a description of choice ...
Then I can myself to finish a full list of files and descriptions ...
In principle, some who may modify and Java application, but I'm not good at programming
have you try "Root Uninstaller" in the market?
or "system app remover" also from market it removes system apps and normal apps too
if i understand these answers - community are lazy
alexdrakea said:
if i understand these answers - community are lazy
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lol, sorry man, i am not a dev. Better write here for help.
(Just answer to my post, so you have totall 10 posts to be able to post there...)
yup.. using root unistaller is your solutions.. been using that too since i succes root my shakira..
i'm too have a root shell, busybox, xrecovery and other... framework-res, etc.
/adb, emul, root explorer,.../ software
i'm member of 4pda, topse,... russian-speaking sites.
i need... up to 1st post
alexdrakea said:
if i understand these answers - community are lazy
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i wouldn't say lazy at all, the apps posted do what you asked, remove/back up/ restore system apps.
they are busy making custom roms and trying to get multi/dual touch.
Please suggest any changes, additions etc
Please don't try to hold me responsible if following anything here makes your phone die. Pretty please!
I have been looking through the forums, rom threads etc, and have seen a lot of questions cropping up again and again. Therefore I decided to start this project!
Basically I hope this will become a reference for newbies to get themselves accustomed to android and the galaxy s II! I will try to update it regularly with information about ROMS, Flashing and general android/samsung terminology.
If you think that I have given a wrong definition or think that anything needs clarifying more please tell me! Also, if you think that I should add anything then feel free to suggest.
Here we go...
Contents
1. Rooting
- Rooting your phone
2. Kernels
- Eplanation
- Links
3. Odin
- Guide to using Odin
4. Custom ROMs
- Risk
- Benefits
- AOSP ROMs
5. ClockWorkMod
- Explanation
- How to Backup/NANDroid
- How to Restore
- How to install a ROM using CWM
6. /efs
- What it is
- How to back it up
7. List of Custom ROMs
8. The Forums
9. Glossary
10. To Do list
RootingRooting is the process of getting 'root access'. In a nutshell this means that you can edit the system partition of your phone. The best analogy of this I can think of is if you imagine a tree! The tree you see above the ground is what you can edit on your phone normally, for example you can add music files, edit text files, etc etc. The 'roots' of the tree are the android system files themselves, they are unseen and are not usually meant to be messed with. It can also be seen as the equivelant of having administrator privilages in windows - with them you have better access to your computer.
Rooting voids your warranty! But you can un-root your phone by flashing a 'stock' ROM and Kernel.
Gaining root access however allows us to customise our phones even further, for example you can:
Edit files to create themes
Backup usefull system files
Remove bloatware and unwanted apps
Rooting the Galaxy S IIRooting the Galaxy S II is, thankfully, easy! Unlike certain other phone manufacturers *cough* HTC *cough* samsung haven't imposed any unnecessary locks on the phone, and so we dont have to hack our phones to pices to be able to root them.
Several guides already exist in the development forum on how to root you phone - it involves a custom kernel:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399 (by Chainfire)
Or, here is the Noobs Guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1126522 (capaxdoli)
And an extremely detailed thread from wibbsy:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1246131 (wibbsy)
Superuser and BusyboxSuperuser is an app that is present on pretty much all custom ROMs. It allows you to manage 'superuser' rights for your phone, in other words which apps you want to allow to have root access. If you dont have it on your custom ROM then you would want to download it from the market (free). Once you have it downloaded you dont need to do anything! It will warn you when an app wants root access, and ask you to allow once, allow all the time, or never allow. It can also be seen as a firewall for your phone, you can deny access to the root of your system files to apps you dont think should be down there!
Busybox is basically a set of commands that aren't built into android to begin with, but are part of Unix (which android is based on). They add additional functionality for root application to perform their job! To be honest this is all I know about busybox, but it is very useful, and lots of root apps need it, so download it!
KernelsThis brings me along nicely to Kernels! Kernels are basically a bridge between your apps and your hardware. It controls everything that apps send to the processor, and everything the processor sends back.
This, as you can imagine, makes kernels VERY important. On XDA, you might see a kernel posted in the development forums. The are usually identified as [Kernel] in the thread title. You will probably also see more brackets in the title, these identify what modules the developer has added to the kernel, or what features it includes. For example [OC/UV 1.5GHZ]. This means that the kernel will enable the phone to be overlcoked to 1.5GHz, but also means the processor is undervolted (meaning it draws less power from the battery).
For more details look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=894880 (mroneeyedboh)
And here for more details on 'govenors':
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=843406 (RJackson)
OdinOdin is a piece of software that allows us to flash anything we want to the phone. The file is attached to the bottom of this post.
It is perfectly safe IF USED CORRECTLY!
This is a general guide for using Odin, take a look at this picture (thanks to screamworks):
To get Odin to connect to your phone, you need to boot into 'download mode' by pressing volume down, home, and power keys at the same time, and connect your phone to your PC via USB.
Everything in red:
NEVER TOUCH
NEVER TOUCH
NEVER TOUCH
NEVER TOUCH
It's that simple! I would be more specific but most Roms, Kernels and CSCs have methods on their respective threads for using Odin with their ROM, so it best to look there.
Wait... (I hear you say...)
Why bother flashing a custom ROM if there is a risk of damaging your phone? Well, they usually come with the following benefits:
- Deodexed, basically allows deeper theming of applications
- Zipaligned, reduce the amount of RAM used when running an application
- Optimisations, meaning that the developer has tweaked the roms system files for bettery speed, battery life and stability
- Quicker Updates, Rom developers will more often then not update their rom to fix bugs FAR quicker then samsung ever will
- Additions, Developers also like to add their own additions to their ROMs, such as themes and applications
The benefits far outweigh the risk!
AOSPAOSP (Android Open Source Project) ROMs are built from the original android source. They are essentially a 'clean' version of android without any additions from manufacturers (e.g no Touchwiz, Sense, MotoBlur etc...). They are popular mainly because they are so customisable. Here is a list of the three main AOSP build you will find:
'Pure' AOSP
This is a build straight from Google's sources and does not contain any modifications whatsoever, other then those that make it run on the particular device. Here is the AOSP project website for more information:
http://source.android.com/
CyanogenMod
This is an extremely popular AOSP build that provides endless customisation to the user. The builds are fast, stable and reliable, and nearly every android device has a cyanogen mod ROM built for it. It is also popular for its 'nightly' (literally) updates. More information can be found on the Cyanogen website here:
http://www.cyanogenmod.com/
MIUI
MIUI is a chinese rom that has been heavily customised, and is influenced by iOS. Think what would happen if an android phone and an iPhone had a baby... Despite commiting the henious crime of trying to be an iPhone, it does work. MIUI Roms are essentially all about speed and looks, if that is what you are after! Here is the MIUI website for further information:
http://www.miuiandroid.com/
ClockWorkMod (CWM)
Clockworkmod is a 'custom recovery' made by xda member koush. Every phone had a recovery partition designed so that if the user messes up a ROM installation, they can recover their phone. CWM is a modified recovery installed into the recovery partition that allows advanced control over ROM recovery, installation and much more.
Features of CWM include:
- NANDroid Backup, This allows you to completely back up your existing ROM with all its files, data and apps
- Restore Backup, Restores a previous backup (obviously...)
- ROM installation, Allows you to install a ROM contained inside a flashable .zip file
- Wipe data/Factory reset, completely erases all of your data contacts, apps etc, leaving your phone 'as new'
Amongst others...
How to install CWMIf you have already rooted your phone using the CF-root Kernel, then you already have CWM! If not, then just install the kernel linked to above in the 'how to root your phone' section
How to make a NANDroid backup using CWMBackups are important because they allow you to restore your ROM incase flashing goes wrong, or you phone starts playing up and displaying wierd bugs.
To make a backup, you need to boot into CWM recovery (done through the 'cwm' app installed onto your phone when you flash the cf-root kernel). Then, you need to navigate down to 'backup/restore' using the volume keys, and select it using the home key. From here, just click 'backup' and you are all set! Leave your phone make the backup (its takes some time) and then just reboot when it tells you its finished. To restore your backup, do the same but instead of clicking backup, click 'restore' instead. Choose which backup you would like to restore and leave the phone to do its magic. Done.
How to install a ROM using CWMInstalling a ROM using CWM is a lot less hassle then installing via Odin. The ROM developer will specify which method of installing their ROM you can use, but it is usually done by a CWM flashable .zip.
To flash:
1. Boot into CWM as described above
2. Navigate to 'install zip from sd card'
3. Select it, and then navigate to 'install zip from sdcard' again!
4. Select the ROM you downloaded from your sd card
5. Navigate down to yes
6. Let CWM install you new ROM!
Note: The same process applies for flashing a kernel
The /efs folderThe /efs folder is a folder in your phone that contains information specific to YOUR phone, for example your IMEI number, product number, Wireless MAC addresses, and much more. There have been reports of people messing up their /efs folder when unlocking their phone or flashing new ROMs, here is an example from the Nexus S development forum (jump to page 111 to see everyone start to panic):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1034130
Therefore, it is important to make a backup! Instead of just regurgitating guides on the forums already, here is a link to a very good one by Rawat:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1068193 (Rawat)
The easiest way of doing it is by using terminal emulator rather then ADB (unless you have ADB all up and running and are confident with it)
Thank you to Godutch for suggesting this, I was never actually aware of it!
ADBADB stands for Android Debug Bridge, and is a useful tool for your device. It has many funtions including:
- Pushing .apks to your phone
- Pushing files to your phone to specific locations
- Rebooting to download and recovery
And I haven't even scratched the surface! It does a lot more trust me...
You will see guides on this forum saying 'this guide assumes you have ADB set up', which you definitely should do! However, there is a downside - it can be horifficaly complicated and fustrating to install for a newcomer to android, you have to mess around with SDKs, EXEs, Drivers, Paths, Yawwnnn....
So I'm going to let an expert describe how to do it! Here's the hard (but proper) way:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=879701 (Captainkrtek and Adrynalyne)
And here's the easy way, all nicely pacaged up for you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=502010 (VanillaTbone)
I would write a short explanation of ADB installation for you here but it would just confuse you, so im gonna let other people do the work!
Custom Rom List
Well, Swi7chblade has done a far better job at doing a custom Rom list then me so I will give you a link to his instead
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1253665 (Swi7chblade)
Stock ROMs
Intratech has a collection of stock ROMs, Kernels and Radios all compressed up nicely for you. Link is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278
Why stock I hear you say? Flashing back a 'stock' ROM usually helps fix random issues you might get whilst switching ROMs, like bootloops. Also, some people prefer the stock experience!
The Forums
Well, I'm not going to patronise you by telling you how to be nice to people etc, but there is often a lot of confusion with regards to the forum rules:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?a=81 (MikeChannon)
I often see moderators with dangerously high blood pressure stressing the following points in particular:
- Use the search button
- Post in the right forums
- Use the search button
- Don't spam/ Flame
- Use the search button
- No ETAs
- Use the search button
If you have owned a device that is supported by XDA before, or have had a look at other device forums, you may of noticed that the development forums for the GSII are slightly different. They are split into two sections:
- Original Android Development
- Android Development
This is an experiment being done by the moderators of the forum that (regardless of my own opinion) is meant to distinguish between 'original' Roms and 'derivative' Roms. For instance; cyanogenmod is a rom built from AOSP source and has been actively developed with added applications, improvements to code etc etc. It is therefore classified as 'original' and placed into the 'original android development' sub-forum. Roms that either use another Rom as a base or do not have any 'original' components are deemed 'derivative' and are placed into the 'android development' forum. Despite this, I urge you to look in both forums! The both have excellent Roms and just because some are deemed 'original' this does not mean they are superior to those that are not. There is great development going on in both forums
Useful Links
CF-ROOT and CWM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
Galaxy S II FAQ:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1065995
Korean Galaxy S II Thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1097347
Android Terminology (from the CM Wiki): http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Terminology
Glossary:
Flash - Put new firmware onto your phone
Firmware - A piece of software
OC - Overclock (the processor)
UC - Underclock (the processor)
Odin - Used to flash new ROMs to yor phone
ROM - a piece of firmware, usually modified by a developer
CWM - ClockWorkMod recovery, a very useful tool used to falsh new roms, kernels etc
Nandroid - A method of backing up your existing 'Rom' with all its apps, data, contacts etc. Done through CWM
.apk - The file type that android apps are contained in. To install just click on it!
AOSP - A ROM built from the original google android source, not a customised version of a manufacturers ROM
CyanogenMod - A very popular, customised, AOSP Rom
TO DO
- CWM
- Finish glossary
- ADB
- Additions to rooting section (superuser, busybox etc)
- How to do a backup via CWM
- Expand ODIN section
- Link to stock ROM list
- Create a 'Custom ROM' list with links to all current custom roms
- Explanation of AOSP (including CM, MIUI)
- Forum etiquette
- Useful links
- Backing up the /efs folder
- Custom boot animations
Nice guide, a few remarks:
root in unix terminology is the same as administrator in window, so rooting a phone means you are getting administrative powers, also rooting your phone voids warranty
maybe some other things could be included: the jig, BACKING UP /efs(this should be the most prominent caption) and adb (+adb frontends like qtadb)
nice post
great for learners like me
godutch said:
Nice guide, a few remarks:
root in unix terminology is the same as administrator in window, so rooting a phone means you are getting administrative powers, also rooting your phone voids warranty
maybe some other things could be included: the jig, BACKING UP /efs(this should be the most prominent caption) and adb (+adb frontends like qtadb)
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Ok thanks for the hints, i will adjust the rooting section accordingly. I'm also going to add a to do list... right now...
Don't forget the /efs directory, if it gets messed up (and sometimes it does) you will loose your phone and data connection permanently and you end up with an expensive Galaxy S mediaplayer. There is no known way to retrieve it and it does get messed up flashing custom roms (many nexus s users now have, well an expensive mediaplayer after flashing a certain rom)
godutch said:
Don't forget the /efs directory, if it gets messed up (and sometimes it does) you will loose your phone and data connection permanently and you end up with an expensive Galaxy S mediaplayer. There is no known way to retrieve it and it does get messed up flashing custom roms (many nexus s users now have, well an expensive mediaplayer after flashing a certain rom)
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Would you be ever so kind as to write me a definition to add? I'm not going to lie I had never heard of this probelm but it does sound important
willk22 said:
Would you be ever so kind as to write me a definition to add? I'm not going to lie I had never heard of this probelm but it does sound important
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you can find a guide here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1068193 I didn't write it, I did read about the problems about what could happen if you screw the /efs directory here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12874457
How long before the post is ruined by idiots posting help questions in it .
Is their a way to lock it so as not to detract fro0m a very good stickie .
Just look at the FAQ page totally devoid now of being a FAQ .
Backing up EFS see topic Dev in section .
jje
JJEgan said:
How long before the post is ruined by idiots posting help questions in it .
Is their a way to lock it so as not to detract fro0m a very good stickie .
Just look at the FAQ page totally devoid now of being a FAQ .
Backing up EFS see topic Dev in section .
jje
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In the desire dev section there is a reference thread, new suggestions are posted and once in a while the thread is cleaned: all the suggestions are added to the OP and then together with useless posts deleted....
JJEgan said:
How long before the post is ruined by idiots posting help questions in it .
Is their a way to lock it so as not to detract fro0m a very good stickie .
Just look at the FAQ page totally devoid now of being a FAQ .
Backing up EFS see topic Dev in section .
jje
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Well I guess that is something that mabye a moderator can do? It would be a dillema though because I really would like suggestions from the community on how to improve the guide and add suggestions and amendmants... but you are right!
godutch said:
you can find a guide here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1068193 I didn't write it, I did read about the problems about what could happen if you screw the /efs directory here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12874457
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Thank you, I will add this tommorow!
I've never seen definite evidence that having root voids warrantee.Looking through all the documents it only says things like if you change the software and this causes the problem they won't fix it. I suspect they would still fix a hardware fault. Samsung have given phones to known hackers. It would seem hard for them to argue that rooting invalidates warrantee when they have encouraged it.
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I've never seen definite evidence that having root voids warrantee.Looking through all the documents it only says things like if you change the software and this causes the problem they won't fix it. I suspect they would still fix a hardware fault. Samsung have given phones to known hackers. It would seem hard for them to argue that rooting invalidates warrantee when they have encouraged it.
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Better safe then sorry!
Plus phones can easily be unrooted.
drspikes said:
I've never seen definite evidence that having root voids warrantee.Looking through all the documents it only says things like if you change the software and this causes the problem they won't fix it. I suspect they would still fix a hardware fault. Samsung have given phones to known hackers. It would seem hard for them to argue that rooting invalidates warrantee when they have encouraged it.
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It's true, I can't find the reference right now but a member called Kalua( he is an official samsung repair center) posted a part of the official service manual which says it voids warranty
http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list_category/13
it's very hard to retrieve/find indivual posts though
edit: found it: http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/view_message/36107694
Could you explain the usb jig please. Isnt the binary clock reset when re rooting? In fact a whole how to re root your gs2 so samsung will never know guide would be great.
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Thanks for this. It's very much appreciated by all noobs to Samsungs. I look forward to future updates
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Thanks for this. It's very much appreciated by all noobs to Samsungs. I look forward to future updates
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No problem! I will update everything and continue the 'to do' list as soon as i can...
Very good idea and think this will help a lot of people This will definitely be a good link to send those who are new to the device
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I've never seen definite evidence that having root voids warrantee.Looking through all the documents it only says things like if you change the software and this causes the problem they won't fix it. I suspect they would still fix a hardware fault. Samsung have given phones to known hackers. It would seem hard for them to argue that rooting invalidates warrantee when they have encouraged it.
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No Rooting letter from Samsung .
http://www.samfirmware.com/apps/blog/show/5267754-newsletter-by-samsung-electronics-
This looks really nice, and will be a good ref for many. I even found myself asking lots of these questions in many threads because I'm used to the HTC way of rooting.
A nice little section to add would be a "unroot your device" for people with warranty purposes. This is a question that pops up everywhere.
Keep up the good work!
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Yes..i searched..all over but got no answers....as I live to learn these kinds of answers from the incredible people who bust there butts so the "Dev in training" like myself can hopefully help contribute to new projects sooner then later!!
I am running EVO with CM7 7.0.3.1 which is Amazing....so thank you sincerely for offering this to less skilled people like myself who are still reading, trying, failing, fixing, and learning and passing on to others.
I will apologize in advance for this post if it is nothing but....I had a permission request pop up:
Titanium Backup 10064
Package: com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup
Requested UID: root (0)
Command: /system/bin/sh
Status: Allow
Created on: 5/24/11 06:01:03
Last Accessed: 5/24/11 06:01:03
Deny......Forget.......Cancel
I believe that 5/25 is when I flashed Cm 7.0.3.1 with the included CM 7 kernal.
Should I be worried??? I have a nandroid from 5/21 that is my goto for fixes in a stock ROM. I have another nandroid that was done on 5/24 at 8;57am but took it off my SD and saved to my desktop to make more space and 5/21 I know is solid.
Evo - Hardware 0004
CM 7.0.3.1 with included kernal
Radio_2.15.00.11.19
Pri 1.90_003
unrevoked forever S-off
Hboot 2.10.0001 (Not 100% sure and dont want to touch phone to find out)
Gapps 20110307
Thank you in advance for anyone who can help me understand if this is bad or no big deal.
FYI - I just downloaded kernel manager that toast suggests but haven't even run yet and also downloaded phone tester that I ran 5 minutes prior to the TB request.
Again, thank you....and as I am looking for more knowledge, if anyone needs help with a project that a semi-noob like myself that learns quick can assist with please let me know. I work cheap...FREE!!!!
velocity300 said:
Yes..i searched..all over but got no answers....as I live to learn these kinds of answers from the incredible people who bust there butts so the "Dev in training" like myself can hopefully help contribute to new projects sooner then later!!
I am running EVO with CM7 7.0.3.1 which is Amazing....so thank you sincerely for offering this to less skilled people like myself who are still reading, trying, failing, fixing, and learning and passing on to others.
I will apologize in advance for this post if it is nothing but....I had a permission request pop up:
Titanium Backup 10064
Package: com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup
Requested UID: root (0)
Command: /system/bin/sh
Status: Allow
Created on: 5/24/11 06:01:03
Last Accessed: 5/24/11 06:01:03
Deny......Forget.......Cancel
I believe that 5/25 is when I flashed Cm 7.0.3.1 with the included CM 7 kernal.
Should I be worried??? I have a nandroid from 5/21 that is my goto for fixes in a stock ROM. I have another nandroid that was done on 5/24 at 8;57am but took it off my SD and saved to my desktop to make more space and 5/21 I know is solid.
Evo - Hardware 0004
CM 7.0.3.1 with included kernal
Radio_2.15.00.11.19
Pri 1.90_003
unrevoked forever S-off
Hboot 2.10.0001 (Not 100% sure and dont want to touch phone to find out)
Gapps 20110307
Thank you in advance for anyone who can help me understand if this is bad or no big deal.
FYI - I just downloaded kernel manager that toast suggests but haven't even run yet and also downloaded phone tester that I ran 5 minutes prior to the TB request.
Again, thank you....and as I am looking for more knowledge, if anyone needs help with a project that a semi-noob like myself that learns quick can assist with please let me know. I work cheap...FREE!!!!
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Let me explain kindly, as I doubt anyone will...
When a program is asking for root it is basically asking for the administrative priviledges. By allowing it, the program (or user) can modify files within the systems locked directories. Titanium Backup should be allowed root access in order to access any installed applications (to backup) or to restore any backed up applications.
Good luck.
Yeah, we're assuming you downloaded Titanium Backup and are trying to run it. If so, what you're seeing is normal, and you need to say yes for it to work.
Basically when you see that, you want to say yes if:
- You know why it popped up (say, you ran it), and,
- You trust the app to have full access to your system.
So in other words its asking for permission to read/write in the system data, like settings, bookmarks, user dictionary, also backing up data for the stock apps like gmail, camera, peep, messaging, etc.
If its some random app that you don't use for these functions /reasons is asking for root access, then its possible malware.
Yeah, pretty much. Titanium needs root access because Android's security model doesn't allow one app to access another app's data (except through the other app's defined interfaces, if any). A backup app, of course, needs to get around this.
You definitely want to know something about the app that's requesting root access before you say yes. Most apps are harmless -- they want root to do something legitimate, and something you asked it to do. But if you ever see the popup and you don't know what the app is and why it needs root to do what it's trying to do, then you probably want to say no and at least research it first.
It's the same idea behind the much maligned User Access Control in Windows Vista and 7. The idea is that if an app tries to do something with elevated privileges, you should have veto power.
First of all I want to thank all you for the kind informative responses. Secondly, I want to apologize for the time delay as I was deployed and just returned a few weeks ago and could not remember my login information until just now. I have been rooted and flashing roms etc., for over a year and I have used titanium since day one so I believe from what you have told me it was most likely malware do to the unusual way the message came up. You can just tell that it wasn't the normal request and something seemed not quite right about it. As it turns out, titanium was asking for permission to run titanium which in fact this request was coming from a different app that had maware and was trying to manipulate titanium. Fortunately, I did deny the request which I would say it was more luck then skill as I generaly allow most things on my phone where as running windows on my PC's I deny everything and research first. I know now where malware is an issue, but is it becoming a large issue on android based devices and I should be running some type of malware protection? Once again I thank each of you for your time, assistance, and providing educated help, not childish remarks and negative comments that has become almost expected on xda lately which is pretty sad for an open source based forum to help allow your device to do mostly specialty things. Again, the thank you......
If you don't mind me asking, what app was trying to use that method?
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alright finally i made up my mind for making android CLI app
now i want to make an app on linux , i can simply write a small CPP program
but what about android (Especially acer iconia)?
how should i begin
what are the tools required?
Thanks in advance
Not sure what your asking for exactly.
But if you have not developer.android.com. is a place you MUST Visit for all things android..
Android doesn't really work with CLI... You'll probably have to go with a GUI, and most apps are written in Java (other languages are somewhat tricky, as you have to use the JNI or IPC to use most android libs)... as mentioned above, you'll get the required tools on developer.android.com. Other than that: Android's libc is fundamentally broken, with many standard functions being unavailable or misbehaving -- a major cause of headaches.
i am talking in general
for example "Busybox"
its written in C/C++
i just wanna know how to compile my own C code for android
Busybox is a bit different, as it's not a user fronting app. For something like that, just cross compile to arm. I believe theres one in the ndk:
http://developer.android.com/sdk/ndk/index.html
You'll need the ndk for user fronting apps with c code as well, btw.
you can use other cross compilers as well:
https://sourcery.mentor.com/sgpp/lite/arm/portal/release324
aman11dhanpat said:
alright finally i made up my mind for making android CLI app
now i want to make an app on linux , i can simply write a small CPP program
but what about android (Especially acer iconia)?
how should i begin
what are the tools required?
Thanks in advance
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Hello, and welcome to the exciting world of Android Development! *insert sparkles*
In the Android world, CLI apps aren't the most popular. Making an app with a GUI would be a much easier starting point to some extent.
What you'll need:
1. A computer with the necessary software installed. This can be a Linux, Mac, or even Windows machine. In the case of a Windows machine, be sure you have the correct drivers installed. With the Linux machine, be sure you have the correct udev rules for the Iconia. Install the Android SDK. Install Eclipse, and the Android plugin.
It sounds like you want to run some native code as well. Use the Android NDK. There's a nice little beginner's guide here. Every good programmer starts with their first Hello, World!
2. Preferably some experience with Java. Almost all Android apps run on the Dalvik VM.
3. Patience. A lot of patience. Compiling takes time.
4. A device to test your code on. Running in an emulator is not good enough. Enable developer debugging on your device in the settings.
Hope this helped a bit.
Thanks alot guys
now i guess i'll be able to make some of my own apps
Hello!
Normally when I come on the XDA forums, I am asking a question, because I end up making a silly mistake in Android. I never like to put out promotional content for attention, and that is surely what I am not doing here, I am simply putting my work out there to see if the community would like it and if we do like, we can begin setting it up for other devices immediately. Now, I am not a skilled programmer at all, but I know SOME Visual Basic with Windows Forum Applications, so I thought "why not give it a shot." I just wanted to say that.
So I made this simple little application called Lineage OS Installer. Now, reading through some of the comments on the Lineage OS Reddit page, some people were asking if there would be an installer for Lineage OS, and there was a good amount of people who did not want one, which makes sense; people should know what they are getting into, and understanding ADB and Fastboot is indeed important. However, sometimes, there is a person who is not involved with ROMS, who is fine with OEM Android, who does not want to use root and what not, however, they want the latest version of android possible for their device, and that was a main point of CyanogenMod; users could get the latest version of android on their phone and tablet when their manufacturer/carrier stopped supporting it. However, the installation can be intimidating, and for the user that I just described earlier, the user who does not want root and what not, that could mean they won't bother attempting to install a custom ROM. However, this application automates the process; all the user needs to do is click some buttons, and press Enter a few times to install LineageOS.
I understand I don't need "permission" to distribute this program, however, I am just asking if the overall community would support the use of this program.
NOTICE: The applicaton may fail to start properly. I am investigating this issue. In the meantime, ensure you have the latest .NET Framerwork([url]https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=55170&desc=dotnet47[/URL]). If that doesn't work, try building from the source ([url]https://github.com/PJBeans/LineageOS-Installer/wiki/How-to-build-from-the-source[/URL])
This is a simple graphical and command-line based installer designed to make it easier to install LineageOS; this program is aimed at beginners. It is not the prettiest program ever, but it still works with my Nexus 7 2013 WiFi just fine
Possible support for flashing root may become available in the future.
If you notice a bug (an issue with the application), please submit it here: https://github.com/PJBeans/Lineage-OS-Installer/issues
Features:
[ADB and Fastboot is required, but NOT included.]
- Instructions for enabling Developer Options, USB Debugging, and OEM Unlocking (if required)
- Embedded browsers to download TWRP, GApps, and LineageOS
- Automatically creates a backup with TWRP.
- Flashes TWRP, LineageOS, and GApps with minimal user interaction; no TWRP interaction required! (The most they really do is confirm they want to unlock the bootloader)
If you have a secondary device that supports LineageOS, perhaps you could try out this program and report your results [in a reply to this thread]! In order to make this as stable as possible, it would require lots of testing, and I do not plan on buying each and every Android phone anytime soon. If you want to test this program, use the prebuilt version, as the Source version may contain undocumented bugs blocking one from their goal. Note that:
- It may screw up your device. No automatic restore process is implemented yet, so make sure to have some sort of recovery tool handy.
- When you report back, please include the version of the program you used (as identified in the Downloads section), along with your device.
- CURRENTLY ONLY FOR NEXUS (AND PROBABLY ONEPLUS) DEVICES! HTC, LG, AND OTHERS THAT REQUIRE A BOOTLOADER UNLOCK SITE OR DEVICES WITH A DIFFERENT INSTALLATION PROCESS ( *cough cough* SAMSUNG) ARE NOT SUPPORTED!!
Screenshots:
Coming Soon
Downloads:
Prebuilt
Prebuilt [VB.NET]: (Version 2.0) https://github.com/PJBeans/LineageOS-Installer/releases (Tested on Nexus 7 2013 WiFi)
CURRENTLY FOR TESTING PURPOSES! - "-development" will be removed in the program once the program is known to be stable.
VB.NET is primarily developed by chompy33 (PJBeans), and C# is primarily developed by Evilarceus. Each branch's source can be found below.
Source
Source: (Version 2.0-development) https://github.com/PJBeans/Lineage-OS-Installer (I encourage absolutely anyone to contribute, even if you would like to make just a minor change!)
Updates:
Past:
UPDATE 1.4.0 and 1.4.1(VB.NET)
(I never published 1.3.0, so here's 1.4.0)
- Scripts have been updated; the user no longer needs to interact with TWRP.
- There is one button to install.
- The script automatically backs up data, cache, and dalvik prior to wiping for installation (no backup before unlocking the bootloader, however)
- (1.4.1) Fix issue with application failing to start (Thanks, @dinesh_redhawk for pointing out this bug that I somehow missed!)
- (1.4.1) Update Installer
UPDATE 1.2.0 (VB.NET)
- User must type "yes" before starting the process to ensure they know to read everything and follow all instructions given.
- Support for GApps
- More messages for user instructions.
- Scripts should be working correctly.
UPDATE 1.1 (VB.NET)
- More Material Design
- 3 step installation (Unlock Bootloader, Flash Recovery, install LineageOS)
- Added a beautiful background image (IMO) of New York City on First Form
Current:
UPDATE 2.0 (VB.NET)
- Check out the release notes on GitHub (Prebuilt Download link)
What is your viewpoint on this? Would you actually want an installer to exist for those who are inexperienced with flashing ROMS?
Sorry for such as long post, and I did not put this in DevDB because it is not directly an Android project.
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Hi,
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Normally when I come on the XDA forums, I am asking a question, because I end up making a silly mistake in Android. I never like to put out promotional content for attention, and that is surely what I am not doing here, I am simply putting my work out there to see if the community would like it and if we do like, we can begin setting it up for other devices immediately. Now, I am not a skilled programmer at all, but I know SOME Visual Basic with Windows Forum Applications, so I thought "why not give it a shot." I just wanted to say that.
So I made this simple little application called Lineage OS Installer. Now, reading through some of the comments on the Lineage OS Reddit page, some people were asking if there would be an installer for Lineage OS, and there was a good amount of people who did not want one, which makes sense; people should know what they are getting into, and understanding ADB and Fastboot is indeed important. However, sometimes, there is a person who is not involved with ROMS, who is fine with OEM Android, who does not want to use root and what not, however, they want the latest version of android possible for their device, and that was a main point of CyanogenMod; users could get the latest version of android on their phone and tablet when their manufacturer/carrier stopped supporting it. However, the installation can be intimidating, and for the user that I just described earlier, the user who does not want root and what not, that could mean they won't bother attempting to install a custom ROM. However, this application automates the process; all the user needs to do is click some buttons, and press Enter a few times to install Lineage OS.
I understand I don't need "permission" to distribute this program, however, I am just asking if the overall community would support the use of this program.
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This is a simple graphical and command-line based installer to make it easier to install LineageOS; this program is aimed at beginners. It is not the prettiest program ever, but it still works with my Nexus 7 2013 WiFi just fine
I did not add support for flashing google apps (gapps) yet, just because I do not know if we will use the same open-gapps package that was used in CyanogenMod, or if we would switch to something different.
Features:
[ADB and Fastboot is required, but NOT included.]
- Instructions to enabling Developer Options, USB Debugging, and OEM Unlocking (if required)
- a file called setup.bat, that will set up the directory where all the required files live
- Embedded browsers to download TWRP and LineageOS*
- Included script that runs `adb devices` to ensure device is recognized
- Installation script that sets up the device to install Lineage OS, and pushes LineageOS to the device.
- Gives instructions for steps that must be completed on the device (Wiping, flashing, etc.)
The program's installation script is finished; it does its job to install a ROM to a device; it will unlock the bootloader, flash TWRP, and push the lineageos image. (I substituted LineageOS for CyanogenMod 13 while testing). *The only thing unfinished it the embedded browser to download LineageOS.
I would not recommend using it currently as it is still in early development
Downloads:
Prebuilt: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B70zQND1cM1WQVFjYi0yZy1BVnc/view?usp=sharing
Source: https://github.com/PJBeans/Lineage-OS-Installer
I understand that the main focus with LineageOS right now is to set up the website, servers, and images, and I do not want to distract those users. But this is what I would like to ask anyone: Would you actually want an installer to exist for those who are inexperienced with flashing ROMS?
Sorry for such as long post, and I did not put this in DevDB because it is not directly an Android project.
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Ill be honest. This is most dangerous for inexperienced users. If something goes wrong then they have no idea how to fix or find out how to fix it.
If used it would be best suited for someone that does rom testing where they flash multiple times a day, but as you are required to use a pc I really dont see much use for it.
just my thoughts.
zelendel said:
Ill be honest. This is most dangerous for inexperienced users. If something goes wrong then they have no idea how to fix or find out how to fix it.
If used it would be best suited for someone that does rom testing where they flash multiple times a day, but as you are required to use a pc I really dont see much use for it.
just my thoughts.
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Thank you for your reply! I completely see what you mean; an inexperienced user could possibly freak out, perhaps disconnect the device while something was going on. Perhaps I/anyone else who contributes could add a support section clearly marked for troubleshooting, complete with a guide to reflash stock. If I/someone else did this, would that make it more friendly for beginners in your eyes?
chompy33 said:
Thank you for your reply! I completely see what you mean; an inexperienced user could possibly freak out, perhaps disconnect the device while something was going on. Perhaps I/anyone else who contributes could add a support section clearly marked for troubleshooting, complete with a guide to reflash stock. If I/someone else did this, would that make it more friendly for beginners in your eyes?
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Yes that make it more friendly for beginners.
I'd be happy to help this project. I could maybe create a UI for this if all goes well.
Also, you should try learning C# if you already know Visual Basic. It's more widely supported and requires less typing. I can still contribute, since I do know both C# and Visual Basic
I wonder if it would be too much to ask to have this program automatically make a NANDROID backup before starting. Incase an inexperienced user disconnected the device or did something to disrupt the install, and caused a soft brick or similar, the NANDROID backup could be restored, and the user could re-attempt, with no harm done.
evilarceus said:
I'd be happy to help this project. I could maybe create a UI for this if all goes well.
Also, you should try learning C# if you already know Visual Basic. It's more widely supported and requires less typing. I can still contribute, since I do know both C# and Visual Basic
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Thanks! The source is in the original post. The only thing that does not have a UI is the installation (although the current UI is pretty bad) I will try to learn C# as time goes on. If you would like to make part of the program in C#, feel free!
Doofitator said:
I know Visual Basic, and I'd be happy to help with the development of this application, too.
I also wonder if it would be too much to ask to have this program automatically make a NANDROID backup before starting. Incase an inexperienced user disconnected the device or did something to disrupt the install, the NANDROID backup could be restored, and the user could re-attempt, with no harm done.
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Thanks for your reply! The source is above. Creating a NANDROID back is a great idea, perhaps we could create an automatic restore option too.
I am worried by the usage by inexperienced users. They are more prone to panic and destroy their phone, which could lead to a bad name for lineageOS on many forums where they will complain that lineageOS just killed their phone, while they did'nt understand the simplest part of the process.
BUT
This can be a tool very useful for experienced users who serially update phones of their many inexperienced friends.
I am doing just that (with around 50 differents phones to date) with my many friends of friends, and a tool like yours would simplify my job. For the moment, i keep a directory of directorys containing rooter scripts, recoverys, roms, gapps, utilities (adb, fastboot, odin, heindall,...) and have a multi-gigabyte library of those.
A utility who prepare a directory for a phone model, download rom, twrp/cwm, gapps, and do the phone rooting for every phone is a very desired thing, but it is a hell of a project to achieve.
So good luck with your project, and dont hesitate to ask me for help if you need, i would be proud to help you achieve your goal.
mlsoftlaberge said:
I am worried by the usage by inexperienced users. They are more prone to panic and destroy their phone, which could lead to a bad name for lineageOS on many forums where they will complain that lineageOS just killed their phone, while they did'nt understand the simplest part of the process.
BUT
This can be a tool very useful for experienced users who serially update phones of their many inexperienced friends.
I am doing just that (with around 50 differents phones to date) with my many friends of friends, and a tool like yours would simplify my job. For the moment, i keep a directory of directorys containing rooter scripts, recoverys, roms, gapps, utilities (adb, fastboot, odin, heindall,...) and have a multi-gigabyte library of those.
A utility who prepare a directory for a phone model, download rom, twrp/cwm, gapps, and do the phone rooting for every phone is a very desired thing, but it is a hell of a project to achieve.
So good luck with your project, and dont hesitate to ask me for help if you need, i would be proud to help you achieve your goal.
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I see what you mean, and I/other contributors will (hopefully) try to make this process very user friendly, so they won't need to panic. I guess developers could use this if they needed to install the ROM on multiple devices, though currently the installation is kind of slow. I appreciate your response!
chompy33 said:
I see what you mean, and I/other contributors will (hopefully) try to make this process very user friendly, so they won't need to panic. I guess developers could use this if they needed to install the ROM on multiple devices, though currently the installation is kind of slow. I appreciate your response!
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I would suggest that such a tool should be VERY wordy about telling the user what it is doing, and should NEVER suspend its apparent activity.
My experience (and it is commercial experience, with genuine products in the marketplace) is that the user will get nervous, and may do something unfortunate, if they fear that something has gone wrong...and they WILL fear this if there is no obvious activity for a long time...and "long time" might be only a few seconds.
So, to make this tool "safe", it should be continually reassuring the user that it is doing something. There should be a progress bar, that keeps moving. There should also be a text section that keeps updating what is going on. If the operation under way will take awhile, then this text session should (every few seconds) remind the user "I'm still working on this...estimated time to completion is XX seconds" (or some such).
This operation IS dangerous, particularly if the user does something wrong. So keep reassuring the user that everything is fine.
jiml8 said:
I would suggest that such a tool should be VERY wordy about telling the user what it is doing, and should NEVER suspend its apparent activity.
My experience (and it is commercial experience, with genuine products in the marketplace) is that the user will get nervous, and may do something unfortunate, if they fear that something has gone wrong...and they WILL fear this if there is no obvious activity for a long time...and "long time" might be only a few seconds.
So, to make this tool "safe", it should be continually reassuring the user that it is doing something. There should be a progress bar, that keeps moving. There should also be a text section that keeps updating what is going on. If the operation under way will take awhile, then this text session should (every few seconds) remind the user "I'm still working on this...estimated time to completion is XX seconds" (or some such).
This operation IS dangerous, particularly if the user does something wrong. So keep reassuring the user that everything is fine.
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Good idea! Thanks for the suggestion, we will definitely incorporate this.
Two thumbs up for a LineageOS installer, plz develop it
Definitely having a LineageOS installer is a great idea!
Unquestionably, it will permit people who are not experienced with flashing custom roms(which accounts for a lot of people), nor do they have an interest in learning about that(e.g. my mom) to easily get the latest Android build on their Android phone (which may no longer be supported by the OEM; an e.g. AT&T LG G2).
44alexsmith said:
Definitely having a LineageOS installer is a great idea!
Unquestionably, it will permit people who are not experienced with flashing custom roms(which accounts for a lot of people), nor do they have an interest in learning about that(e.g. my mom) to easily get the latest Android build on their Android phone (which may no longer be supported by the OEM; an e.g. AT&T LG G2).
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This is exactly what I am trying to achieve. Provided I/contributors make a stable build by the time a stable build of LineageOS comes out (or at least around there, it's an open source project so there is no official date), it could give LineageOS a reputation of being a very easy ROM to install. Thanks for the reply.
Creating an installer for users who don't event know what's going on from the inside is useless IMO.
If the installer fail to flash they get stuck with a bricked device and don't know what to do.
I added a .gitignore to reduce cloning size and keeping things clean: https://github.com/PJBeans/Lineage-OS-Installer/pull/1
If you want, add me as a collaborator on the GitHub project so I don't have to keep on making pull requests.
p4rot said:
Creating an installer for users who don't event know what's going on from the inside is useless IMO.
If the installer fail to flash they get stuck with a bricked device and don't know what to do.
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Just FYI, I did say earlier that this installer should have an automatic NANDROID backup take place, so phones would be safe if something happened.
Doofitator said:
Just FYI, I did say earlier that this installer should have an automatic NANDROID backup take place, so phones would be safe if something happened.
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We will attempt to add this (or at least guide the user) later on. Thanks for your response!
evilarceus said:
I added a .gitignore to reduce cloning size and keeping things clean: https://github.com/PJBeans/Lineage-OS-Installer/pull/1
If you want, add me as a collaborator on the GitHub project so I don't have to keep on making pull requests.
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I set up a live chat on Telegram, the link is on the Repository's Readme. I appreciate your commitment to this project!
I sent an invite at https://github.com/PJBeans/Lineage-OS-Installer/invitations
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We will attempt to add this (or at least guide the user) later on. Thanks for your response!
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If possible, I think making this a mandatory step would be better - we don't want people skipping it and then complaining later.