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Wow too my surprise, after installing the new update, I noticed right off the colors has been calibrated correctly! No more purplish in certain shades of grays now!
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2.3.3 also fixed my overly bright screen too. I used to have my NS always set on the lowest brightness setting and I still felt that it was too bright.
Yeah it did seem to improve the brightness as well. I like the new settings.
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You guys don't think its too yellowish now??
I do a bit of photography and have a colour corrected wide gamut monitor I use for retouching.
To my eyes, when looking at the same photography on both devices, the new colour temperature is much closer to 'correct' than the old one was. Not perfect but much more preferable to me.
so maybe all the complaining people have been doing is just their eyes not used to what the screen "should" look like
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so maybe all the complaining people have been doing is just their eyes not used to what the screen "should" look like
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That is 100% correct. My girlfriend is a professional photographer and she even commented on how much better it looks.
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I know that when I first bought my Datacolor Spyder colorimeter to calibrate my monitor it took a while to get used to the results. Much less "in your face" than before, but much closer to natural.
I exchanged my first Nexus S because the screen was too blue/purple. The second one was slightly less purple. But the new color profile got rid of all the purpleness
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so maybe all the complaining people have been doing is just their eyes not used to what the screen "should" look like
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agree.... i think this might improve the battery life too.
google fixed ns's color too much...
though grey does not display as purple any more,white displays as a bit yellow now,what takes ns's sharp display away.
iv been using "voodoo" kernel w/ext4-voodoo sound & color :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=949292
on modaco r11 "2.3.2" and the colors are awesome , i had the purple tint on dark gray areas but its all gone now .
can someone compare this with the colors on 2.3.3 ?
I like the new colors it looks now great!!!
I noticed the colour difference immediately as well. It actually felt weird to me, I was really used to the purplish colour in the UI. Feels very grey. Not complaining though if this is how it should have been, but feels weird.
I for one do not like the new colors. They look too washed out and gray.
The Crispness is gone. Whites are now yellowish. I am not a fan. I did a comparison with a friends NS side by side his with 2.3.2 and mine with 2.3.3. and there is a difference and 2.3.2. looked better. This could be "the correct color" as has been stated but that does not mean it looks better. I have never noticed a purplish tint before and even looking at my friends NS with 2.3.2. I still do not see it.
shikem said:
I for one do not like the new colors. They look too washed out and gray.
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Same here. Looking at it again (2 Nexus S side by side) the one with 2.3.3 really seems washed out.
I did notice an occasional purplish tint on 2.3.2, but mostly from different viewing angles, less so when looking straight on at the screen. It never bothered me. The overall color scheme was also a bit cool, with more blues coming through. I've read that because blue LEDs in AMOLED screens wear out quicker, often they are overemphasized at first and will fade over time. I thought this might have been the explanation.
I definitely noticed a color change after updating to 2.3.3. At first it was very bothersome. The colors do seem to be washed out and the whites seem just a tad yellow. But I can see how this may be more accurate as the previous color scheme was overly cool. Maybe we tend to prefer a cooler color temperature. The new one will take some getting used to. Blue is a "comfort color" after all.
Blue appears brighter to the human eye despite the actual lumen output being similar. It's like those custom bulbs that some people like to put on their honda civics or whatever, the blue/purple looking ones. Yea they "look" bright but they actually output less light than the standard yellowish bulbs.
Anyway, being an avid photographer and spending hours tweaking my plasma TV's colors, warmer colors are more natural to the human eye and most people jack up the blues to make things look more contrasty or sharp, which in my opinion is too harsh and fake. Even the iPhone 4 screen is tinted blue to make whites appear brighter. Then again, some HTC screens are so red tinted it's ridiculous, so in the end, download the color calibration app and tweak it according to your liking.
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iv been using "voodoo" kernel w/ext4-voodoo sound & color :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=949292
on modaco r11 "2.3.2" and the colors are awesome , i had the purple tint on dark gray areas but its all gone now .
can someone compare this with the colors on 2.3.3 ?
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i would say the voodoo fix isnt as "extreme" as 2.3.3
I just check the same pic on my Atrix 4G , and Nexus one, as well as my IPS screen.
here are the sample:
1st attatchment is Atrix
2nd is Nexus one
3rd is Atrix vs N1
4th is original pic taken with Canon 5DmkII
IMO,
Atrix has washed out color
Nexus One(AMOLED) is overSaturated
My IPS lcd screen is calibrated by Spyder 2 pro.
I may like the color on Atrix, coz I am tired of AMOLED oversaturated color.
I dont have Inspire, so I can't judge on the SuperLCD screen.
Your judgement?
your atrix screen suffers from a yellow tint. it happens in all phones including iphone, nexus S " all phones "
there are 2 types of screens
1- yellow tinted screen
2- blue tinted screen. your nexus 1 is blue. while your atrix is yellow.
the blue one is the better screen, you will notice it when you put a blank white wallpaper. and on high brightness, you will see you atrix has yellow tint to it while your nexus 1 doesnt.
i say swap your atrix for better screen.
also you have to keep in mind that your screen is not Super Amoled. so dont compare contasts .
Just my $0.02, but I think the Atrix screen is better. It represents real colors, not oversaturated colors that everyone seems to love on phone screens now.
Atrix had the best of everything in these. Definition, color balance, skin tones, etc. Anyone who clames different now is full of crap.
+1 Thanks for the comparison. This should be stickied for all fanboys to see.
The N1 is waaay to red in my opinion.
The atrix could use a bit more warmth in the colours but not really that bad
More importantly, who's the girl..!?
Joking aside, the Atrix looks far more natural. I'm getting mine in a couple of hrs & have currently a N1 so I'll be comparing a lot in a while. Can't wait!
I think the atrix screen is great. I really dig the realistic colors. It's not perfect, but it's better than the N1 by far.
I still think that the iPhone has a better screen, i just don't want to use 3.5" anymore. It's too small and limiting.
One thing though that I notice between this and the n1 is that I can actually use the atrix in direct sunlight and that's a +1.
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One thing though that I notice between this and the n1 is that I can actually use the atrix in direct sunlight and that's a +1.
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this! and only this! I can see the atrix screen @ 50% brightness in direct sunlight whereas I could barely make out anything on my N1 @ 100% brightness in direct sunlight!
The atrix cant do the color yellow at all.. Look up yellow on wikipedia, you will see what I mean. Doesnt matter what shade the phone is, it cant do yellow. iPhones do it perfectly, as does my captivate.
That being said, the flesh tones are FAR better than on a SMOLED.
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The atrix cant do the color yellow at all.. Look up yellow on wikipedia, you will see what I mean. Doesnt matter what shade the phone is, it cant do yellow. iPhones do it perfectly, as does my captivate.
That being said, the flesh tones are FAR better than on a SMOLED.
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The color orange (being based on yellow) looks far worse to me..... I did a test with al the colors on wikipedia.... . That said, the darker colors look better imo. Especially purple & black.
is it just my phone or what here?
I have noticed the saturation of colors on my atrix are just horrible specially green which makes yellow and orange that's why yellow and orange are really off... just me or everyone? if so anyone got an idea on how to tackle this issue?
search is your friend, its not just your phone. Its also not really a problem for a lot of people, myself included, since id take it over supersaturated colors any day.
The Colors on my phone look like the colors on my Touch Pro. What I mean is that they look the way they should.
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The Colors on my phone look like the colors on my Touch Pro. What I mean is that they look the way they should.
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Agreed, mine looks fine to my eyes. Best looking screen I've ever had on a device besides my G73JW.
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I cannot complain. My color look ok to me.
The resolution is amazing I can't lie but the quality and the color are **** compared to my amoled desire.. green is too dark and the quality of the picture is wack too pixelated...
everyone who says it's not important is lying at least a little. the screen is not perfect, period. one needs only to look at a green image or moving red image to see the flaws in the screen design.
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As a color blind person I can say that the greens look fine to me. and thanks for saying I am lying even if only a little.
There have been a couple of colour comparisons, and I believe the concensus has been that the Atrix has more "realistic" colours, while we are more used to other devices having colours that "pop" with over saturation. We have become accustomed to over saturation, and so when we see colours on a screen that more closely match real world colours, we think there is something wrong. I will take the Atrix colours over anything else I have used.
<edit> I have seen one comparison where correct colour calibration techniques were used to compare the Atrix to I believe the iPhone4. I will try to find it again and post a link.
Why colors are not vivid in this screen they look a little wached out
What u guys think?
They don't appear as oversaturated as the ipad 3/4 or OLED screens but it looks so bright that it makes up for it. I know the actual nit ratings are not the highest but this thing looks BRIGHT on the auto setting.
With the brightness all the way up it seems washed out. Just turn the brightness down. It's overkill for the most part, and seriously cuts down the battery life. Compared to my galaxy nexus, the blacks aren't nearly as good, but I'd say the color is more natural. Cheers.
When more kernels are released i'm sure there will be color controls. I'm personally waiting for franco kernel. He just posted on his google+ inquirying about releasing a test version of his kernel. should not be too long until we have the ability to change gamma and color density patience!
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With the brightness all the way up it seems washed out. Just turn the brightness down. It's overkill for the most part, and seriously cuts down the battery life. Compared to my galaxy nexus, the blacks aren't nearly as good, but I'd say the color is more natural. Cheers.
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Thats cause this uses an actual LCD screen, unlike the Galaxy nexus. Honestly the blacks are one of the only decent things about the GNex screen. Custom kernels had to fix some major color issues with most people's devices. And as the person above me said, we will soon have kernels for this device too that allow color, contrast, and gamma options so anyone who is unsatisfied with colors at default can tweak their settings around.
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Thats cause this uses an actual LCD screen, unlike the Galaxy nexus. Honestly the blacks are one of the only decent things about the GNex screen. Custom kernels had to fix some major color issues with most people's devices. And as the person above me said, we will soon have kernels for this device too that allow color, contrast, and gamma options so anyone who is unsatisfied with colors at default can tweak their settings around.
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I second this. Stock colors on the gnex make it look like a cigar stain. Think I stole that line from somewhere. Anyway they are bad. I've tweaked the colors on my gnex and now the diff between the two devices is less. I personally like oled, but the n10 screen IMHO is far more color accurate which may at times make it seem washed out.
Its kind of like too much bass. An untrained ear might say too much bass sounds better then a flat curve.
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The colours are fine.. Its the colours on your oled screens that are overly saturated
I have to agree with the OP. Blacks are really bad. Also is everyone else screen on the warmer side (slightly yellow)?
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The screen produces a very poor rendition of the NTSC colour gamut. I have professionally calibrated equipment at home to compare. Gray scale is good. Gamma is OK. Color accuracy is poor. Very antique looking. This is similar to how Panasonic used to calibrate their displays. The contrast is average. Overall the screen is simply mediocre with minimal glaring issues. This screen isn't for showing off; its for getting work done. Bright, sharp, and bland looking. Hopefully a dev unlocks some mdnie hacks that offer control over the displays calibration. A couple tweaks could definitely improve the perceived contrast and improve color accuracy. I've had a number of nexus devices over the years. They're very no frills. So I don't think we'll see many tools for improving the screen. Maybe some wonky color gamma tweaks.
Supercurio I'm calling you out for some assistance.
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BTW I have a galaxy nexus with an amoled display. With some adjustments its a superb screen. The gamma is too high and colours are over saturated, however the colour rendition is far more accurate than the nexus 10. The blues and reds on the nexus 10 are way off the mark. Blues are more cyan, they are washed out, not deep enough. The reds are very under saturated. The greens are muddy, slightly brown. Yellows are over saturated and magenta is slightly under saturated. The display just doesn't compare to the new iPad in the slightest. Oddly enough, sharpness is the least important display characteristic for a quality display. Humans are much more sensitive to contrast and colour. The nexus 10 display has its priorities mixed up. On the other hand, I still love this thing and wouldn't trade it for any other tablet on the market. Its graphics performance is beastly and just outclasses most other tablets in regards to build quality.
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There's an app called Screen Adjuster to adjust rgb and contrast. Root required. I wonder if that may help. I'm not rooted so I can't really try it. And I may end up returning it so didn't wanna muck with it for now.
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They don't appear as oversaturated as the ipad 3/4 or OLED screens but it looks so bright that it makes up for it. I know the actual nit ratings are not the highest but this thing looks BRIGHT on the auto setting.
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Calling the ipad 4 oversaturated is just ignorant.
Not sure if its placebo but I updated to 4.2.1 and my build # is JOP40D and the screen isnt as dull anymore. Blacks are darker although still not as dark as my tf700. Anyone else notice this after the update?
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Google releases November security patch that includes new display color modes (Boosted, Natural, Saturated) for the Pixel 2 XL to help with the screen color saturation issues/problems. Update includes fixes for screen burn-in and the ear piece clicking noises. Love that Google added this options, in that way people that want accurate colors can use the "Natural" mode, those custom to Samsung's "saturated" (candy) colors, can now pick "Saturated" mode. All about having choices.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omu5r2v941A
Update:
In case someone hasn't got the update YET.... I just posted a step by step guide on how to sideload the OTA.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTfgOeNfQqE
Just got the update, loving it !
Colors are much much better . To my eyes at least.
Do you guys experiencing any differences regarding the blue shift after the update?
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Do you guys experiencing any differences regarding the blue shift after the update?
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That's caused by the polarized layer afaik, not sure how saturation would change that
I couldn't really notice a difference... Will see when I get the phone and update is applied.
But I was happy with the colours when I looked at it in the shops..
Wasn't so impressed with the blue screen off axis. 1 was spot on, 2 were shockingly bad.
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I don't like the saturated mode, colors are too bright and white is more red now. Sticking with the original boosted mode, I like the more natural colors.
Oh, and no help to the blue shift since that is hardware based.
Man I can't wait for kcal.
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Looks terrible to me. Yellow whites and colors are extremely off to me. Boosted is my go to.
Yup after using the phone in saturated mode for two days I'm back with the boosted mode. Saturated mode is REALLY saturated. I find it even more saturated than the Note 8.
Too hard to tell in a video, but in person saturated makes everything pop like it's a Samsung panel. Pretty nice, I love it when I'm not in the mood for the most accurate colors.
I definitely appreciate the update Google.
I've found that the saturated mode is great when navigating android, but when looking at real life pictures, boosted is best. I think we need a slider to fine tune it to our own likings. I think we need a little more saturation than boosted, but less than saturated.
Has anyone else noticed that when you look at a picture and angle it for the blue tint it actually looks better? I took a picture of my daughter and the saturation makes her face look red, but when i tilt it, the extra blue overlayed on top of it looks almost perfect!
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I've found that the saturated mode is great when navigating android, but when looking at real life pictures, boosted is best. I think we need a slider to fine tune it to our own likings. I think we need a little more saturation than boosted, but less than saturated.
Has anyone else noticed that when you look at a picture and angle it for the blue tint it actually looks better? I took a picture of my daughter and the saturation makes her face look red, but when i tilt it, the extra blue overlayed on top of it looks almost perfect!
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I think it has helped the blue tint look better on mine too. Mine wasn't terrible to begin with but on boosted mode it looks even better. I would love to see a slider too like on the Note 8 I had. That would please many people.
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I think it has helped the blue tint look better on mine too. Mine wasn't terrible to begin with but on boosted mode it looks even better. I would love to see a slider too like on the Note 8 I had. That would please many people.
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I agree! With saturated mode i think they are also changing the color temperature because there's sortof on dark orangish or reddish tint over everything now where before it was more of a bluish tint. We need the slider!
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I've found that the saturated mode is great when navigating android, but when looking at real life pictures, boosted is best. I think we need a slider to fine tune it to our own likings. I think we need a little more saturation than boosted, but less than saturated.
Has anyone else noticed that when you look at a picture and angle it for the blue tint it actually looks better? I took a picture of my daughter and the saturation makes her face look red, but when i tilt it, the extra blue overlayed on top of it looks almost perfect!
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I noticed this too, saturated mode is good but it is a bit too red for me and the colors do make pictures look unnatural but I managed to mitigate some of that with KCAL using root and snoke kernel. I turned down the red and green a bit so now it has a blue hue closer to the natural setting. I also turned down the saturation a bit.
Directly from Google; Further enhancements will be included in our planned December software update and on an ongoing basis thereafter. Our goal is for your Pixel phone to get more useful and delightful over time.
So maybe we will get a slider after all? We'll find out soon enough.
I still like boosted the best.
In case someone hasn't got the update YET.... I just posted a step by step guide on how to sideload the OTA. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTfgOeNfQqE
I'm loving saturated mode. Besides the whites being more reddish instead of blue it's pretty close to what my OG Pixel XL was.
If you guys want to know what really colors should look like either buy or find a monitor with 100% coverage on sRGB range and which are properly factory calibrated.
http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/monitor-colour-spaces-adobergb-srgb-2949078
I am 100% the pixel or for that matter any phone out there lacks realistic representation of colors, and therefore images.
Whites should be at 6500k.
Also be wary of your photos you take, what you see could be severely oversaturated but in reality its probably not so good or vivid.
To this date, there is no phone with realistic colors.
Cost and people being addicted to neon colors could be reasons.
So is boosted the exact same as "vivid colors" or is it a little bit better?