[Q] Verizon Bootloader Q - Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm a complete noob when it comes to custom ROMs. Does the Verizon Note 3, having a locked bootloader, mean that you will never be able to use a custom ROM on it? Or does it just mean it's going to take some time, as it'll need to be cracked?
I will probably return mine if I find out I can't put vanilla Android on it.

That is correct, unless someone comes up with a way to unlock the boot loader later.
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[Q] Google play edition dump will work on this phone?

I know that the att galaxy s4 has the same exact hardware as the Google play galaxy s4, so if someone dumped that phone, bootloader and all, and flashed it to att model, would it unlock the bootloader and would it run that rom alright? I kind-of want to have the updates not directly from att so I could get stuff like the app2sd quicker.
Thanks, Tommy
tommydrum said:
I know that the att galaxy s4 has the same exact hardware as the Google play galaxy s4, so if someone dumped that phone, bootloader and all, and flashed it to att model, would it unlock the bootloader and would it run that rom alright? I kind-of want to have the updates not directly from att so I could get stuff like the app2sd quicker.
Thanks, Tommy
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Locked boot loader is in the hardware, no matter what you flash, it won't change that. Having said that, there are several roms floating around, give one a try as they still work on our devices, I would not trust a raw dump as that might have a different boatloader that will screw the phone ge
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Thanks for reply, and my next question now is when you flash a custom TW rom, would I still lose IR, air view, and air gesture? Would I also have to wipe my phone in process of flashing it?
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Thanks for reply, and my next question now is when you flash a custom TW rom, would I still lose IR, air view, and air gesture? Would I also have to wipe my phone in process of flashing it?
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It depends on the Rom. Some won't, others will. The Google edition is a tw Rom, but brings the look, feel and functionality of asop. You will have to research the Rom.
It's often necessary to wipe a phone when changing roms. If you start flashing, I would almost count in it being needed
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tommydrum said:
I know that the att galaxy s4 has the same exact hardware as the Google play galaxy s4, so if someone dumped that phone, bootloader and all, and flashed it to att model, would it unlock the bootloader and would it run that rom alright? I kind-of want to have the updates not directly from att so I could get stuff like the app2sd quicker.
Thanks, Tommy
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I attempted yesterday and received a kernel error on my ATT S4.
Thanks again
It depends on the Rom. Some won't, others will. The Google edition is a tw Rom, but brings the look, feel and functionality of asop. You will have to research the Rom.
It's often necessary to wipe a phone when changing roms. If you start flashing, I would almost count in it being needed
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Well thanks for help, but I will do anything to avoid a wipe, that's the last thing I want to so, even with titanium backup I don't feel secure enough to risk wiping and restoring it. I also don't want to raise the flash counter any if I ever need to use my warranty. And I don't trust that flash counter reset thing because it could brick phone.
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It depends on the Rom. Some won't, others will. The Google edition is a tw Rom, but brings the look, feel and functionality of asop. You will have to research the Rom.
It's often necessary to wipe a phone when changing roms. If you start flashing, I would almost count in it being needed
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Well thanks for help, but I will will so anything to avoid a wipe, that's the last thing I want to so, even with titanium backup I don't feel secure enough to risk wiping and restoring it. I also don't want to raise the flash counter any if I ever need to use my warranty. And I don't trust that flash counter reset thing because it could brick phone.[/QUOTE]
Then stay stock. If you're going to flash a rom you have to do wipes most of the time. If you don't you'll end up with lots of problems that will force you to start all over. Just make a nandroid backup in your recovery before flashing and you'll be able to get right back to where you started if you have a problem.
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Any reason to unlock the bootloader?

My Nexus 7 (2013) will be arriving today. I unlocked the bootloader on my Galaxy Nexus to flash TAKJU, since the Canadian version of Android was updated by Samsung (a dumb situation that delayed updates), so it made sense to unlock.
I don't flash ROMs or tinker in any way - I only want the device to have the latest version of stock Android. Is there any compelling reason to unlock the bootloader of the Nexus 7, before I start loading my apps and configure my Google accounts?
I suppose if I leave it locked the device will have greater security.
I think the best reason is so you can flash custom recovery and make backups. You could also root and do all the good things that come with that.
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Reasons for me:
+ Titanium Backup
+ Browser replacement (to stock browser, not chrome)
+ Custom Recovery (for backup and restoring)
I have the LTE version, so therefore there is no custom rom yet.
I just unlocked the bootloader to temporary boot TWRP and create a Nandroid backup.
nex86 said:
Reasons for me:
+ Titanium Backup
+ Browser replacement (to stock browser, not chrome)
+ Custom Recovery (for backup and restoring)
I have the LTE version, so therefore there is no custom rom yet.
I just unlocked the bootloader to temporary boot TWRP and create a Nandroid backup.
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How can you have a LTE version its not sold yet?
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Andrew149 said:
How can you have a LTE version its not sold yet?
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Available in Europe.
Most unlock to install/try different ROMs. Also, recall that when you do unlock at a later time, it does wipe your device; so may be worthwhile to unlock right now while you're still setting it up so you don't have to go through that again.
ChrisAG said:
My Nexus 7 (2013) will be arriving today. I unlocked the bootloader on my Galaxy Nexus to flash TAKJU, since the Canadian version of Android was updated by Samsung (a dumb situation that delayed updates), so it made sense to unlock.
I don't flash ROMs or tinker in any way - I only want the device to have the latest version of stock Android. Is there any compelling reason to unlock the bootloader of the Nexus 7, before I start loading my apps and configure my Google accounts?
I suppose if I leave it locked the device will have greater security.
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1) unlocking process will trigger factory reset for security, so best to do it before you install everything, if you will ever need it in the future
2) even if you never root or make any changes, one day you will probably need to restore factory images, in which case you'll need to be unlocked
I think the main reason is the erase that unlocking causes. If you unlock right away, you don't lose anything or need to back and restore sdcard, etc.
Good answers so far, plus I also unlock in order to flash OTA updates as soon as they are linked to in this forum.
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Well there aren't any reasons on not to do it?
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Someone can bypass your lockscreen.
sfhub said:
Someone can bypass your lockscreen.
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Not a problem: I have the lock screen turned off too .
Best reason to unlock your bootloader asap:
So you don't have to lose all your data later if you decide to root.
Unlocking your bootloader will wipe all your data but effectively doesn't do anything so you still get OTA updates and 100% stock.
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Enables you to use apps such as adaway and LMT...
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nex86 said:
Reasons for me:
+ Titanium Backup
+ Browser replacement (to stock browser, not chrome)
+ Custom Recovery (for backup and restoring)
I have the LTE version, so therefore there is no custom rom yet.
I just unlocked the bootloader to temporary boot TWRP and create a Nandroid backup.
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Done need to unlock to get the stock browser anymore heres the thread about http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2385928
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nex86 said:
Reasons for me:
+ Titanium Backup
+ Browser replacement (to stock browser, not chrome)
+ Custom Recovery (for backup and restoring)
I have the LTE version, so therefore there is no custom rom yet.
I just unlocked the bootloader to temporary boot TWRP and create a Nandroid backup.
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Is unlocking bootloader necessary to root Nexus 7? Can I just root the N7 without unlock?
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Kumczak said:
Is unlocking bootloader necessary to root Nexus 7? Can I just root the N7 without unlock?
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Yes, must unlock bootloader or the system partition is write protected and any root you tried to install would be lost at next reboot.

Cyanogen unlocking tool

So just come across the cyanogeninstaller and notice no one is talking about it here.
The program will walk you through how to unlock the boot loader, gain root, install a recovery and install the latest cyanogen mod. All in a nice little ui.
http://androidandme.com/2013/11/new...-the-play-store-desktop-client-along-with-it/
According to the faq the HTC one is supported too!
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ratykat said:
So just come across the cyanogeninstaller and notice no one is talking about it here.
The program will walk you through how to unlock the boot loader, gain root, install a recovery and install the latest cyanogen mod. All in a nice little ui.
http://androidandme.com/2013/11/new...-the-play-store-desktop-client-along-with-it/
According to the faq the HTC one is supported too!
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There's an article on xda's front page today
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/cyanogenmod-installer-now-available-in-the-play-store/
The one thing I wish it didn't do was wipe SD. I was going to test it out but that's a deal breaker for me. I don't want to sit around and wait for those transfers.
does it use htcdev to unlock or an exploit?
I ran this and it did what it said. Only problem I had is after it unlocked my bootloader installation failed and I had to run again and it installed cwm and then installed CyanogenMod 10.2 snapshot. I am curious of what they use to unlock bootloader as well. During the process it said waiting on unlock code then I was prompted on phone to unlock yes or no.
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So once this is done are you free to flash any custom Rom because this seems like an easy way to root and unlock boot loader . Also does this offer a way of relocking boot loader.
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It'd be great if it could also s-off our the device I've tried every method and no luck
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So, did anyone try this tool? Any feedback?
I can't findout the unlock method either.
Is there no one the knows how it is done?
I can't imagine the installer unlocking via htcdev, how many phonez can you unlock on one account?
And don't you think HTC would found out and block the installer unlocker?
Iam thinking of going for this once my warranty is up but not until.
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I am possibly interested in this if safe, though probably not to stay on CM.
Only Im afraid of the 'Wipe SD' part. On my previous One I wiped SD when flashing a custom ROM and it killed the phone, was unfixable.
I am not going to destroy another phone, love the One as it is and not worth trying if not a safe option..
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Iam thinking of going for this once my warranty is up but not until.
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Well, my warranty expires in two years. I won't even have this phone in two years. I'm waiting to complete 5 complete battery cycles and going for it :silly:
works well
So I've now got my second One back (wife got a S800 S4) so used the CM unlocking tool.
Ran perfectly except for one small glitch, it did not recognise the phone momentarily until a reboot of PC and new USB cable was used.
Now have a rooted One on CM11 and I actually like it on the handset.
There is more free ram, is smoother than Sense, not one single FC, everything works, using ART and that has not been an issue. It feels faster though have limited CPU to 1.5ghz.
Only issue with the mobile is the camera module, the purple crap. My main One is unaffected and in perfect stock condition and will stay that way. My second can be for the custom ROMs, only that I feel I'll probably use it more lol than the stock, want to get Miui on to it.
Was such as safe and easy process one day will be used on the stock One.
Would recommend this tool for unlocking as saves all the unnecessary work by using normal means, only issue is you can't back up the stock ROM as gets wiped..

Getting my bootloader unlocked

My question is I have a s4 without being on a contract and I let att unlock my boottloader can I install cwm or teamwin on my phone and I am looking to install the liquidsmooth rom. Or do you guys recommend any other rom that allows me to overclock the cpu and gpu??
What firmware version are you on? If you have MF3 or higher, no you can't unlock the bootloader. If you have MF3 or higher you can't install a custom recovery other than safestrap. Most custom roms have cpu control, and if they don't there are always root apps.
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The AT&T S4 does not have an unlocked bootloader. To find out more information about the phone and what you can or can not do, read the "pinned" threads in the General and Q&A sections.
Understand Its not unlocked but since im not under contract of any sort I figured I could get them to unlock it? That was my main question, I know you could go to AT&T before all the bs came up with there security pay a fee and get it unlocked? I am already rooted, I read up on safestrap as much as I could but still I hear its ok and not ok to do so. I root every phone I own and I now work with Verizon and getting the note 3 for my agent line and plan on rooting it as well. But right now I guess I would like to find a way to where I can get this thing where I want it. I had a htc one before the s4 but had tons of problems with the speaker blowing after 4 phones I requested to s4 and got it. I do have M3 software as well, if you have safe strapped your s4 what roms do you recommend? I know only some work with safestrap and I really like the liquidsmooth rom.
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Understand Its not unlocked but since im not under contract of any sort I figured I could get them to unlock it? That was my main question, I know you could go to AT&T before all the bs came up with there security pay a fee and get it unlocked? I am already rooted, I read up on safestrap as much as I could but still I hear its ok and not ok to do so. I root every phone I own and I now work with Verizon and getting the note 3 for my agent line and plan on rooting it as well. But right now I guess I would like to find a way to where I can get this thing where I want it. I had a htc one before the s4 but had tons of problems with the speaker blowing after 4 phones I requested to s4 and got it. I do have M3 software as well, if you have safe strapped your s4 what roms do you recommend? I know only some work with safestrap and I really like the liquidsmooth rom.
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All your answers will be in this thread right here including links to download safestrap and what Roms will work for it. In the end its user preference than outing out who has the “BEST" ROM. Its all based on personal preference on what is good for you and not. Take your time to read and flash and play around with them.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2428254
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I believe AT&T unlocked your SIM not the bootloader as they don't do that at att
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May I suggest maybe changing the title of your thread OP? Its very mis-leading. I'm sure that with the knowledge of the people that responded to you and the links that were provided, you understand that you can not unlock the bootloader at this time.

Verizon S5 ROMs

So the reason why I even wanted to get a ROOT access to my galaxy S5 for verizon is to really be able to put a custom ROM on my machine such as Omega ROM. But I cannot seem to find any anywhere that are specifically for 900V. Can anyone provide me with a sense of direction or a link or two?
Thanks much!
vladtess said:
So the reason why I even wanted to get a ROOT access to my galaxy S5 for verizon is to really be able to put a custom ROM on my machine such as Omega ROM. But I cannot seem to find any anywhere that are specifically for 900V. Can anyone provide me with a sense of direction or a link or two?
Thanks much!
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Well, unfortunately you're going to have to wait for awhile. Even through you can now root the retail version of the S5, there is no custom recovery as of yet, so you can't flash a custom ROM. The retail version of the Verizon S5 has a locked bootloader with no know exploit at this time. Hopefully someone will find an exploit for the bootloader or a version of SafeStrap will be developed that works on the S5, but even at that you will only be able to flash Touch Wiz based ROMS with SafeStrap. That is why you can't find a ROM for the retail version of the Verizon S5.
vladtess said:
So the reason why I even wanted to get a ROOT access to my galaxy S5 for verizon is to really be able to put a custom ROM on my machine such as Omega ROM. But I cannot seem to find any anywhere that are specifically for 900V. Can anyone provide me with a sense of direction or a link or two?
Thanks much!
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Thats odd.. I cant seem to find any roms for 900V either! Maybe because there isnt any .. fyi the creator of safestrap is said to be done travelling by tonight so maybe hell get some time soon to help build ss for our device n we could at least flash tw roms.
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I wonder about safestrap. It seemed to burn almost half the storage of my 32gb Note 3. This 16gb s5 is gonna be tricky..we'll have no room for apps
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Rippley05 said:
I wonder about safestrap. It seemed to burn almost half the storage of my 32gb Note 3. This 16gb s5 is gonna be tricky..we'll have no room for apps
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im sure some space needed for stock then some space needed for anpther system.. i dont care if i have 0 space tbh.. long as i can flash roms.. also, i can always get a lqrg3 sd card
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