I knew that TMobile's 4G was on 1700Mhz and they were expanding their network on 1900Mhz to attract unlocked ATT users. That being said, the coverage of 1900Mhz is smaller than 1700Mhz for sure.
According to the Note III spec on Tmobile, it didn't show 1700Mhz, does it mean that the Note 3 Tmobile version cannot work on 1700Mhz of TMobile but 1900Mhz only? Or, 4G LTE is only on 1900Mhz?
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I am visiting the USA in September for holiday and am doing a bit of travelling while i am out there. I was going to buy a prepaid sim to use with my SGS II which is sim unlocked. I am visiting Los Angeles, San Francisco and Vegas what network would you guys recommend for coverage and costs ?? it would have to be a GSM network.
Thanks
I would say T-mobile because they have a awesome pay as you go plan
I would say T-Mobile
T-Mobile and AT&T are the only ones compatible with your SIM. However the SGS2 is only going to get EDGE on T-Mobile if you're wanting data. It's compatible with the HSPA for AT&T however. From what I understand there really isn't a difference in price between the two for prepaid. Nothing to make a difference when you're taking an international trip anyway.
Hydroshock said:
T-Mobile and AT&T are the only ones compatible with your SIM. However the SGS2 is only going to get EDGE on T-Mobile if you're wanting data. It's compatible with the HSPA for AT&T however. From what I understand there really isn't a difference in price between the two for prepaid. Nothing to make a difference when you're taking an international trip anyway.
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European 3G bands are different than US ones. In Europe the UMTS band is operating on 2100MHz. AT&T operates it's 3G service on 850 and 1900 MHz.
cajunflavoredbob said:
European 3G bands are different than US ones. In Europe the UMTS band is operating on 2100MHz. AT&T operates it's 3G service on 850 and 1900 MHz.
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Yeah but the SGS2 has the 1900MHz band in it, so it would work on AT&T's 3G network, but only on T-Mobile's EDGE.
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Yeah but the SGS2 has the 1900MHz band in it, so it would work on AT&T's 3G network, but only on T-Mobile's EDGE.
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You need both bands for AT&T 3G. 850 provides downlink. 1900 provides uplink. In Europe, 2110 is downlink and 2150 is uplink. It is normally just included in one spec of 2100MHz. The 850MHz band in this device would only provide 2G speeds.
AT&T is your best bet.
Does it work on AT&T's LTE network? Anyone?
The phone does not have LTE hardware/radios. So there is no need to try it.
My mistake. I assumed the Euro version was LTE enabled.
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The phone does not have LTE hardware/radios. So there is no need to try it.
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Totally agree with pops without the 700 or AWS LTE Bands no way jose!
Hi,
I'm also wondering about LTE here in Canada on Rogers. LTE is on 2100 Mhz here. Has anyone tried entering settings and which network types are available? GSM, WCDMA, etc...?
To help clear up some confusion. There is no currently available Galaxy Note for sale that supports LTE. Here is what the European version supports.
GSM/GPRS
Frequencies 850/900/1800/1900
3G/HSPA
Frequencies 850/900/1900/2100 (Quad-Band)
LTE: No
WiMax: No
The upcoming Korean version may have LTE, but we will need to wait and see.
There are over a dozen bands worldwide approved for LTE. Just because a phone has an LTE radio doesn't mean it will work with a specific carrier. Unless they come up with a universal LTE radio that supports a dozen bands we're all kind of screwed as there won't be any roaming and we'll have to buy phones directly from the carriers. VZW and AT&T both use the 700MHz spectrum but because of slight differences in the frequency their radios are not compatible. LTE's going to be a mess.
I spend 50% of my time in the US and 50% of my time in Canada and have a contract with both AT&T and with Rogers.
I am going to buy the S4 soon. Should I get the SGH-I337 variant with AT&T or the SGH-I337m variant with Rogers?
In about 14 months, I will be back in Canada (on Rogers) permanently. So far, I am leaning towards the AT&T variant due to greater rom availability, but I am worried about whether the S4 will work on Rogers 3G bands and LTE network.
The reason I am worried is that I am currently using an unlocked Sprint BB Tour 9630 Quadband on Rogers with specs:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 2100
CDMA/EVDO Rev A 800/1900
And the Roger's EDGE network barely functions on that phone (many disconnects).
I am a little unfamiliar with network bands, but can you let me know if the phone's 3G radio and LTE radio are identical across Rogers and AT&T?
I read somewhere that Rogers S4 uses 2600 MHz LTE Band and AT&T uses 700 MHz LTE. Is this true? Or does this phone have both LTE bands built in?
Thank you!
Spoke to someone who I trust on the inside and was told Verizon has the Note in hand & is testing it.
They are modifying it and working the kinks out. Conservative estimates are that it will release in February 2014...but the absolute latest is April 2014. These are conservative estimates and it could possibly release earlier.
This is good news. If Verizon is testing it, that means they have a version with 700MHz LTE (and likely 1700/2100/2600 as well).
Currently on the fence about buying the European version with its limited LTE capability. Please keep us updated if you hear more!
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Will the European Note 10.1 LTE work on all AT&Ts bands or will it be limited?
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Will the European Note 10.1 LTE work on all AT&Ts bands or will it be limited?
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It will be limited on LTE. AT&T uses 700MHz and 1700/2100MHz for LTE. I'm unsure if they use 2600MHz as well. The three Canadian carriers use 2600MHz for their 150Mbps LTE Max network, which is has limited coverage in major cities.
The European P605 supports 850/900/1900/2100/2600.
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It will be limited on LTE. AT&T uses 700MHz and 1700/2100MHz for LTE. I'm unsure if they use 2600MHz as well. The three Canadian carriers use 2600MHz for their 150Mbps LTE Max network, which is has limited coverage in major cities.
The European P605 supports 850/900/1900/2100/2600.
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What does limited mean?
I'm not entirely aware of how AT&T's LTE setup is, but according to reports there are some areas where they are using 1900MHz and 2100MHz for LTE signals. The note will have connectivity in those areas. However their main frequencies are 700 and 1700 I believe, so in most areas you wont see an LTE signal.
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I'm not entirely aware of how AT&T's LTE setup is, but according to reports there are some areas where they are using 1900MHz and 2100MHz for LTE signals. The note will have connectivity in those areas. However their main frequencies are 700 and 1700 I believe, so in most areas you wont see an LTE signal.
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I'm in San Diego how do we find out what MHz the area is using?
I need a note 3 that can:
connect to AT&T LTE here in the USA
And connect to T-Mobile NL in Holland
And unlocked bootloader
ATT:
850 MHz CLR 5 UMTS/HSPA+ 21Mbit/s 4G In service
1900 MHz PCS 2 UMTS/HSPA+ 21Mbit/s 4G In service
700 MHz Block B 17 LTE 4G In service Main LTE band providing complete coverage
1700/2100 MHz AWS 4 LTE 4G In service Additional LTE band for more bandwidth in select markets
1900 MHz PCS 2 LTE 4G Service starts by the end of 2013 Additional LTE band for more bandwidth in select markets[31]
2300 MHz WCS 30 LTE 4G Approved for deployment in Oct 2012[32]
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TMO:
This company uses GSM1800 as their main frequency band for communications. In 2010 T-Mobile Netherlands had some problems with 3G capacity, but after investing in the network modernization they have managed to deal with this problem. So now they provide 3G services using 2100MHz band
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Am I restricted to the N900-T? or is there another one you know of.
sorry for the noob question i don't know about all the bands.
Thanks!
T-Mo NL uses the 900Mhz for 2G, 2100Mhz band for 3G, and are in the process of updating to the 900Mhz band for both 2G and 3G. (Should be finished by the end of 2016.) LTE runs on the 1800Mhz band. (I can dream these numbers by now...)
You can find the bands per phone version here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2574886
Does the TMo US version even work with AT&T?
Both N900-t and N9005 work in terms of frequency for 2G.
You will probably not be able to use the N900T for 3G once the network upgrade is finished here, as we're going to be using the 900Mhz as the main frequency for 3G. The N900T can't see that one. The 2100Mhz will be serving as a bandwidth increaser, not as the main band.
There's a chance you won't get 4G everywhere on the N9005 when using it in the US, as it can't see the 700/1700/1900/2300Mhz frequency.
And you're going to have to root to get rid of the region lock either way if you want to use both SIMs.
Tmo version 4G will not work with AT&T 4G. I tried with my wife's phone
T-Mobile (US) devices support the same frequencies as AT&T devices. This is coming from experience and from the fact that I've pretty much memorized all the band numbers that carriers use and phones support.
If you want a Note 3 that supports AT&T LTE in the US and HSPA+ in NL, you can either get the AT&T model or the T-Mobile model. The T-Mobile model supports one extra band (1700 MHz HSPA+) that is only used on T-Mobile US (nowhere outside of North America), so it wouldn't make a difference. Just know that it CAN be used on AT&T. The other differences between the two:
1. The T-Mobile version supports Wifi Calling (if used on T-Mobile), AT&T model doesn't.
2. AT&T removes the "Network Mode" menu from the Settings menu (so you can't force EDGE for example).
3. AT&T version has a locked bootloader. T-Mobile version doesn't.
In many instances, although 900 MHz WCDMA/HSPA+ isn't listed, it's supported. I can't confirm it because I'm in the US, and GSM carriers use (total) 850/1700/1900/2100 MHz for WCDMA, not 900 MHz. I think it's just unlisted to discourage people from exporting the US models. The only LTE frequency that North America shares in common with Europe is 2600 MHz, which is supported by the phone. I believe that's only used in urban areas in Europe.
Overall the T-Mobile model is the most open in terms of bootloader and supported frequencies (though either model would work in your case).