Speaker (external) comparision Note 3 vs S4 - Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm using S3 and think that the speaker (not earpiece) is just ok (not very good). I think S4 speaker is better than S3 and would like to know how's it compare with Note 3 one. I would really consider buying Note 3 if its has the S4 speaker (though its a bit large for my taste).
Thanks.

this has been one of my concerns as well... i had the s4 and the speaker is weak... after searching vigorously for samples of the note 3 speaker, i've come to the conclusion that it MAY be as good as the note 3 speaker and better than the s4 and s3 speakers.
I like that it's on the bottom instead of the back where it's always getting muffled.. i want to bad to like the speaker quality when i get this phone lol. hope hope hope

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Very annoyed by the Note 3 speaker and Samsung

Coming from Note 2, I'm so utterly disappointed by the Note 3 speaker. It's weak and has a very cheap sound. My Note 2 (now in my wife's possession) has a rich sound. I can't believe Samsung regressed on a very simple yet important feature. It always amazes me Samsung or HTC or Motorola hasn't surpassed Apple in Smartphone sales with Android being so superior to iOS. I always know why because these cheap sons of *****es are nowhere as serious and detail oriented as Apple when it comes to hardware. Apple really gives you premium components in all aspects of the phone. Think about it, Apple, Samsung, etc all charge about the same for the flagships. But Apple throws in the best antennas, sensors, screen, speaker, camera, processor, mmc, memory, now even a fingerprint scanner (even though I don't give a damn about it). What do others do? Go skimpy on components here and there. WTF? My Galaxy S3 for example got no reception while my wife's iPhone 4S was merrily surfing the Internet away at a July 4 fireworks venue. Same Sprint network. S3's antenna just stings like a MF. Samsung particularly is most shameful because they make so many components in house. If not for Android, Samsung etc. don't deserve to compete with Apple. Don't get me wrong. I hate Apple. But I love their hardware and their attitude to making the best hardware the industry possibly sees. I was hoping Apple drive the competition. But the competition falls asleep on the wheel. OMG.
I agree the external speaker is slightly better on the N2. My wife also has my mint titanium grey N2. However with a headset the difference is amazing far superior to the N2. I have been streaming music on my N3 all day in work from play music, and for me volume and quality are fine. Most of the sound features are designed for a headset on the N3. External speaker and mic pick up on speaker phone again seem better than the N2. It takes a bit of transitioning from the N2 to 3 but I am loving mine.
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bklm1234 said:
Coming from Note 2, I'm so utterly disappointed by the Note 3 speaker. OMG.
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You and others hung up on the external speaker really need to get a grip. This is from another thread and says it best.
cpufrost said:
The speaker is fine, it reminds me of the iphone speaker at the bottom. The way you hold the phone can also make it far more effective just as cupping your hands around your mouth to shout!
Nice knowing that setting the phone down on the table isn't going to muffle the sound!
I have experience in pro audio reinforcement/music production and sound is important but as previously mentioned it's ludicrous to expect a room filling sound from a transducer smaller than most tweeters on speaker systems!
If you want something to fill a room, check out the UE bluetooth speakers.
The mods will increase gain however the driver has absolute excursion limits as well as its driving amp and pushing the levels higher just results in compression and nasty distortion just like cranking your stereo amp into clipping. It won't damage your phone but sounds horrible!
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It's also not nearly as bad as people are making it out to be and there are advantages to it being on the bottom vs. the back where it's easy to block.
Here's my N2 taping a video playing playing on my N3 and vice versa. It's the same TV show (Modern Family) being played back on my cable company's video app minutes apart. Both phones are at max volume. The N3's flat on its back on a desk and the N2 is propped up in a Seidio kickstand case because it can't lie flat on its back without hobbling its audio. The recording distance is the same.
N2 recording N3
N3 recording N2
If the external speaker is that important to you return your N3 and buy something else. Samsung's not going to change it so it is what it is.
I totally agree with the Op and have said since release day, the external sound quality is way too monophonic, it's so bad to my ears that I'm trying to sell my N3 and will keep my N2.
It's not just poor audio quality, it's overall system sounds, they're harsh.
Very cheap sounding speaker Samsung, shame on you.
I have no issue with the sound on this device.
LOL, If anyone is obsessed with a tiny speaker on a phone they need to buy a boombox, not a cell phone.
The sound on my N3 is 10 times better then what I had on my original Galaxy S.
I'm pleased with it.
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I have no issue with the sound on this device.
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I have no issues with speakers.
This one is a mystery to me as well. Given I haven't heard an HTC One that's supposed to sound really good, but if I'm listening to music or something for which I'd want really good sound quality, I'd hook it up to a dock or use headphones regardless of how good the little speaker on the thing is for its size. It's never going to hold a candle to headphones or a real set of speakers.
I must have a faulty phone then. Because even system alerts sound thin and monophonic on my n3.
On note 2 rich and full, a real contrast.
Brava27 said:
LOL, If anyone is obsessed with a tiny speaker on a phone they need to buy a boombox, not a cell phone.
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LOL! Why settle with a 5,7" display when you can get a 65" plasma!! Pockability is a *****, isn't it?
I don't carry headphones with me all the time... in fact I rarely do. I just want to enjoy my phone. Ever heard of "multimedia" (key word being "multi")? It doesn't mean just a good screen. You need some audio to pair that video with and unfortunately the N3 just doesn't deliver in that department.
In my book, to buy a flagship device you don't want to settle with something just being good enough, you want something much better than average... well in my case I was actually willing to settle with just average. I wanted to get the N3 really bad but after comparing a youtube clip with weak audio with my N2 I realized that the N3 wasn't even average... it was worse than average. I'm keeping my N2 because both audio & video is better than average
/Tubgirl
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On note 2 rich and full, a real contrast.
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I used a N2 for almost a year. I agree the sound coming out of it had more detail than what's coming out of the N3 but to call it "rich, full, a real contrast" is putting the N2 on a pedestal it doesn't serve to be on. The N2 was a great phone but had plenty of strengths and weaknesses. The N3 is a great phone with plenty of strengths and weaknesses. The only thing that's changed is what's moved from one category to the other. At least to me, it would take a hell of a lot more than less detail coming from an external speaker for me to overlook all the material gains Samsung's achieved with the N3.
everything on the note 3 is way better than the note 2 apart from the speaker I did take mine back to the shop and had it replaced and my replacement sounded alot better so I think it's some speakers are better than others, but overall cracking phone love it
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Tubgirl said:
LOL! Why settle with a 5,7" display when you can get a 65" plasma!! Pockability is a *****, isn't it?
I don't carry headphones with me all the time... in fact I rarely do. I just want to enjoy my phone. Ever heard of "multimedia" (key word being "multi")? It doesn't mean just a good screen. You need some audio to pair that video with and unfortunately the N3 just doesn't deliver in that department.
In my book, to buy a flagship device you don't want to settle with something just being good enough, you want something much better than average... well in my case I was actually willing to settle with just average. I wanted to get the N3 really bad but after comparing a youtube clip with weak audio with my N2 I realized that the N3 wasn't even average... it was worse than average. I'm keeping my N2 because both audio & video is better than average
/Tubgirl
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Going back to the N2's display, especially in bright sunlight, would be downright painful. And according to your argument that's a key part of "multimedia." Add to that the quality of sound the N3 puts out via BT and the 3.5mm jack which I listen to multimedia with 97% of the time and your whole argument seems a bit silly. Listening to anything for any length of time over any phone's external speaker isn't multimedia; it's either a necessity borne of no other options or just plain masochism.
I noticed that when I play music it sounds good and loud. However when I was on a phone call, the volume was very quiet out of the speaker. It could have been because of the other person I was talking to, but I'm not sure.
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I noticed that when I play music it sounds good and loud. However when I was on a phone call, the volume was very quiet out of the speaker. It could have been because of the other person I was talking to, but I'm not sure.
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I've had to take two conference calls of over an hour each using the the N3's external speaker. The sound is plenty loud. In fact, the thinness everyone's complaining about doesn't come across in phone calls because the content (people's voices) is pretty constant. On the plus side, the three mics and noise cancellation of the N3 got positive comments from people on the receiving end of the conference calls and those on my side didn't have to do a football huddle over the N3 to be clearly heard.
I don't know about the quality. I don't use it to listen to music.
But the volume is considerably lower than the S4.
LOL!!!...if u bought the note 3 for sound, or was expecting Bose to come outta there then u purchased the wrong phone lol....The note 3 is a maestro at multitasking..a literal powerhouse...I mean this phone rivals most laptops.
Take a moment to appreciate the awesome sexy piece of tech in ur hands
I only use the external speaker when im in the shower. I dislike people who walk around with their speaker volume up ...I dont wanna hear what you are listening to. People that complain about the stereo speaker need to get over themselves.
airyras said:
I only use the external speaker when im in the shower. I dislike people who walk around with their speaker volume up ...I dont wanna hear what you are listening to. People that complain about the stereo speaker need to get over themselves.
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I couldn't care less what you like hearing. The quality of sound isn't great from the Note 3, that's my point. I'm used to a better sound from my Note 2. Hopefully devs will sort this out in favour of the Note 3 shortly anyway.

For the love of god ... Why Samsung

Why Samsung? Why? speaker on the back? I love the note 4 the only really negative thing I have to say is why the speaker on the back of the device and not on the bottom like my note 3 ? I'm already finding myself laying the phone face down on the beautiful screen to hear any type of music, potentially scratching the screen. Sorry just ranting
Poor you... I wish I had your problems. Nevermind that a cellphone speaker sounds like complete garbage no matter where it's positioned. Maybe you should return the Note 4 and get a boombox instead.
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Why Samsung? Why? speaker on the back? I love the note 4 the only really negative thing I have to say is why the speaker on the back of the device and not on the bottom like my note 3 ? I'm already finding myself laying the phone face down on the beautiful screen to hear any type of music, potentially scratching the screen. Sorry just ranting
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You can edit the mixer_paths.xml and boost you speaker if you are rooted. I know it isnt really fix for the speaker but since you cant physically move the speaker to a new position , its all you really got . For me personally it doesnt make a difference but Im not coming from the Note 3 , Im coming from the GS5 which has the same speaker position.
HTC is the only company that got it right.
siraltus said:
Poor you... I wish I had your problems. Nevermind that a cellphone speaker sounds like complete garbage no matter where it's positioned. Maybe you should return the Note 4 and get a boombox instead.
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Sorry im not a audiophile I guess like yourself, sounds doesn't sound that bad to me the speaker placement was a horrible choice should've just left it on the bottom like the note3 would of been way better than where its at now. Im wondering if they did that because of the finger print scanner.
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HTC is the only company that got it right.
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and lets not forget the moto x and nexus 6
probably so we wont scratch that 20 inch camera on the back! I mean, why is it even poking out like that?!?!!??! its begging to be scratched, get broken if its continuously place on the back /rant
We will see those things on the note 5 lol
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and lets not forget the moto x and nexus 6
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Not having stereo on the X was disappointing but then again not really a big deal on a device that's so small. We'll see how the 6 fairs
the note 4 isnt geared towards sound hence, why samsung doesnt waste R&D on speakers that most people rarely use. I rarely use my speakers on my notes. If im not bluetoothed or streaming, its on silent. lol
The speaker on the Note 4 is clearer and louder than that on the Note 3. Fact.
http://youtu.be/_UYwfonN2hM
When at work, I lay my phone face up on a pack of sticky notes.
cds36 said:
Why Samsung? Why? speaker on the back? I love the note 4 the only really negative thing I have to say is why the speaker on the back of the device and not on the bottom like my note 3 ? I'm already finding myself laying the phone face down on the beautiful screen to hear any type of music, potentially scratching the screen. Sorry just ranting
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You won't scratch the screen from putting it screen down on a table. Gorilla glass is amazing man! I do agree that speakers on the rear suck though.
knarfies said:
the note 4 isnt geared towards sound hence, why samsung doesnt waste R&D on speakers that most people rarely use. I rarely use my speakers on my notes. If im not bluetoothed or streaming, its on silent. lol
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I have to agree there, I feel if i need to blast music they would be attach to some form of speaker lol. other wise, the sound is being stream through my bluetooth...or being stream to my tv lol
I hear there is a patent that stops them from putting it on the front.... Not 100% sure but I guess it's possible. I agree it's stupid being on the back but this Note 4 is a beast. I came from a Galaxy S5.
For me the speakers are perfect since I hold my phone with one hand and two i usually have a finger in the bottom holding the phone up and it used to cover the bottom speakers on my note 3, I sounds good and clear what do you expect surround sound.
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and lets not forget the moto x and nexus 6
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Moto g 2014 also.
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Has any phone ever used the front speaker for calls and system/media audio? I would think it would be pretty obvious to move the back speaker to the front and control the volume with software depending on if your in a call or playing music or whatever.
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The speaker is really the only thing left in the Note series that could really use some improvement. Everything gets incremental upgrades except for the speaker.
the speaker on the back is lame imo, but it does sound very good-so not sure how much I can really complain. It is very loud using speakerphone speaker and the ringtone/alarm. Certainly better than the Note 2/3 that I owned.
the HTC M* is still the best for media output for youtube or other video playback. I still wish HTC would have made a M8 5.97" phone.
The biggest problem with a rear speaker, is that when the phone is lying on it's back, the sound gets extremely muffled. This is especially true when using a case. Horrible, horrible design choice by Samsung.

[Q] Terrible hissing / white noise coming out from loudspeaker

Hi there!
My Galaxy Note 4 has quite perceptible hissing / white noise coming out from loudspeaker when something is playing, even if sound level is set to 0.
Has anyone else this problem? Should I ask for repair/replacement? or there is hope that Lollipop update will fix it?
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Thanks!
I can hear a similar sound on my note 4, but I wouldn't call it terrible.
the noise a Samsung 2A charger makes is far worse.
I have good ears, but I can't hear the sound unless I put the back of my phone to my ear.
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I can hear a similar sound on my note 4, but I wouldn't call it terrible.
the noise a Samsung 2A charger makes is far worse.
I have good ears, but I can't hear the sound unless I put the back of my phone to my ear.
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My Note 4 and my friend's Note 4 does same but, doesn't bother me at all.
Tried now my old phones: S2, S3, S4 and they all do some similar noises.
Hi guys, thanks for replied! Note 4 belongs to my wife, she complained me about this. And in fact this hissing is recognizable from 20-30 cm in quiet room. For comparison my Note 3 has almost no sound at all even if you put your ear next to the loudspeaker. So it looks like common deffect for Note 4... this is bad because I spend so much time convincing my wife to switch from iPhone
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Hi guys, thanks for replied! Note 4 belongs to my wife, she complained me about this. And in fact this hissing is recognizable from 20-30 cm in quiet room. For comparison my Note 3 has almost no sound at all even if you put your ear next to the loudspeaker. So it looks like common deffect for Note 4... this is bad because I spend so much time convincing my wife to switch from iPhone
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Well it's not really a defect, you can hear it only when you listen to something and you put the sound to 0 or after you press on a something, but it's switching off shortly after the playback of the sound (when you click on an icon or key).
It's just the sound the speaker makes when is on, but when you turn up the volume even a little from 0 you will not hear it anymore.
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Well it's not really a defect, you can hear it only when you listen to something and you put the sound to 0 or after you press on a something, but it's switching off shortly after the playback of the sound (when you click on an icon or key).
It's just the sound the speaker makes when is on, but when you turn up the volume even a little from 0 you will not hear it anymore.
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Actually it is not a case with my wife's Note 4. When we set the sound level to 1, hissing changes the pattern, but is still there and almost the same loud this "imperfection" is defect for me, it is like famous hissing in the headphones, it impairs the perception of the sound content. There is no excuses to have it in the modern devices. It is minus to Galaxy Note 4. If I would review this phone I would definitely pay attention to it.
What do you think is is hardware or software issue?
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Actually it is not a case with my wife's Note 4. When we set the sound level to 1, hissing changes the pattern, but is still there and almost the same loud this "imperfection" is defect for me, it is like famous hissing in the headphones, it impairs the perception of the sound content. There is no excuses to have it in the modern devices. It is minus to Galaxy Note 4. If I would review this phone I would definitely pay attention to it.
What do you think is is hardware or software issue?
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I guess it's hardware, probably the speakers they used on the Note 4 just makes that noise I tried 2x Note 4 and the noise is identical.
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I guess it's hardware, probably the speakers they used on the Note 4 just makes that noise I tried 2x Note 4 and the noise is identical.
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Well, if this is hardware problem then it is not fixable. This is bad. Nevertheless thanks for reply! Actually I have one more question, do you have this kind of hissing / white noise when you record video? Because I have, every time I film something on Note 4 even in an absolutely quite room I always have strong background hissing / white noise! Do you have it?
I have a galaxy note 4 and listened to all my music on this phone via leads and BT. I can confirm there is now an issue with this sound which in my case has come about only recently when I upgraded to Lollipop. Until then the sound was fantastic - now it has a kind of whirring background noise which starts when any playback is started and stops a couple of seconds after stopping. This noise was definitely not apparent before. I still have my old galaxy S3 which I have compared this with - the old S3 does have a very low continual hiss but this is constant and also inaudible when playing music at any volume. The Note 4 used to be like this but is now appalling and I cannot listen to it!
OP - Can I confirm you are running Lollipop Android?
Dropped phone, solved problem!
Horrible hissing sound! Unbearable especially when ran through an amplified system like car audio. I have tried multiple headphones and sound systems, I even swapped the device at my carrier and sent it to Samsung TWICE! Samsung swapped components to no avail both times. Also broke and fixed my s-pen on a random side note lol.
All of that aside I fixed problem! DO NOT TRY THIS SOLUTION!!!
After simply just living with the hissing problem for a few months to the point where I just pulled an old HTC Ruby out of storage to use as my all around MP3 player I accidentally fixed the problem.
SOLUTION: I dropped my phone flat on its back from standing texting position onto a hard laminate floor that covers a concrete foundation and it works perfactly now lol! Case: UAG.
That having been said it looks like a confirmed hardware problem and does not sound like a permanent fix... :crying:
Hello, I recently bought the Note 4 snapdragon variant (910F) and the rear speaker had a terrible hissing and static pop after audio being played. I returned the phone because of it, it was unacceptable. I really liked the phone so I heard that the Exynos variant has a different sound DAC.
Can some Exynos variant owner check for me if the speaker is hissing too? Like lock your phone (it should make a lock sound) then immediately put the rear speaker right next to your ear and listen if you can hear some static noise and then "click".
Thank you!
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Hello, I recently bought the Note 4 snapdragon variant (910F) and the rear speaker had a terrible hissing and static pop after audio being played. I returned the phone because of it, it was unacceptable. I really liked the phone so I heard that the Exynos variant has a different sound DAC.
Can some Exynos variant owner check for me if the speaker is hissing too? Like lock your phone (it should make a lock sound) then immediately put the rear speaker right next to your ear and listen if you can hear some static noise and then "click".
Thank you!
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No one with exynos version can check this for me? :/ Please!
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No one with exynos version can check this for me? :/ Please!
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I have the exynos variant of the samsung A5 2016 and after updating to marshmallow or rooting it(somewhere between those two processes) I noticed my phone made this static noise when I turn off the screen.
While in a call and my screen is off I hear the noise again
Also when I plug my earphones and I pause the music the sound is still there.
But when I turn the screen on the sound stops...
Don't know the reason for this and I hope it can be fixed somehow.
PS. sorry for bad english

Speaker quality?

Hi I previously had a Galaxy Note 3 and went to this now I am trying to get used to the speakers. Is it normal for it to have a slightly..monoish sound like am radio compared to the note 3?they both have one speaker so idk why
Maybe it's due to the waterproofing ?
It's the waterproofing. Still, its slightly better than the Note 7 speaker.
Well, I would expect mono sound from a mono sound system. And it's a phone speaker, I never understood when reviewers complained they the phone speaker didn't sound great, what exactly they expected to hear. If you can have a phone conversation through it, it's doing its job

Stereo speakers?

Just wondering if there was any mention of speakers? Last I heard they will use the ear piece as a speaker but I didn't hear anything like that during the presser.
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Just wondering if there was any mention of speakers? Last I heard they will use the ear piece as a speaker but I didn't hear anything like that during the presser.
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No Dual speakers! Just a single one.
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No Dual speakers! Just a single one.
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Your wrong: "The biggest change for everyday phone users is the Galaxy S8's switch to stereo speakers, with the phone's earpiece doubling as a second speaker for full-volume playback."
Source Gizmodo (https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2017/03/the-galaxy-s8-is)
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Your wrong: "The biggest change for everyday phone users is the Galaxy S8's switch to stereo speakers, with the phone's earpiece doubling as a second speaker for full-volume playback."
Source Gizmodo (https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2017/03/the-galaxy-s8-is)
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I hope I am!
I just placed an order for an S8+ and what you're saying is a big plus for me anyways.
Link is down and no mention anywhere
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Link is down and no mention anywhere
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Here is the correct link. Not sure how real it is though considering I can't find it mentioned at any other reputable sources.
Just left the At&t store and was playing around with both 8 and 8+ and sad to report that after playing some music and youtube videos and covering each speaker at a time with my finger the phone doesn't fire audio through both speakers like the iphone
The lack of announcing such a feature and getting my hands on one leads me to believe the phone will just shoot sound out of the bottom. Single speaker wasn't that impressive either.
anjiru0009 said:
Just left the At&t store and was playing around with both 8 and 8+ and sad to report that after playing some music and youtube videos and covering each speaker at a time with my finger the phone doesn't fire audio through both speakers like the iphone
The lack of announcing such a feature and getting my hands on one leads me to believe the phone will just shoot sound out of the bottom. Single speaker wasn't that impressive either.
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Yeah, i went to the store today also. The phone is awesome overall. The sound just flat out sucks compared to my Nexus 6P. I'm torn...
anjiru0009 said:
Just left the At&t store and was playing around with both 8 and 8+ and sad to report that after playing some music and youtube videos and covering each speaker at a time with my finger the phone doesn't fire audio through both speakers like the iphone
The lack of announcing such a feature and getting my hands on one leads me to believe the phone will just shoot sound out of the bottom. Single speaker wasn't that impressive either.
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You'll be able to patch mixer for that, but still, it's bullsh**t. I doubt it will use dedicated amp for earpiece (since this one will play only highs). Ever since htc 10 - idea to play "stereo" with a woofer at the bottom & highs with earpiece is nothing but a marketing fooling. Buy htc m8 & you'll feel what is real smartphone stereo
That's disappointing if they did not include the dual speaker set up. Quite a few articles before the release said it was including the dual speaker (incorporating the earpiece speaker as the 2nd) setup. I am guessing that "mixer" is for rooted phones only, but I will look into it.
Sounded extra weak to me as well. Around half the volume of my OnePlus 3T
I went to the store and tried. No stereo speakers. Just mono.
We should contact with Samsung by mail.
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We should contact with Samsung by mail.
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What would that get us?
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What would that get us?
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Simply it would be confirmed about stereo speakers which we get in s8 or not.
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Simply it would be confirmed about stereo speakers which we get in s8 or not.
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I can confirm ZERO stereo sound came out of either S8 or the S8+ during fullscreen full volume youtube videos. The sound from the single tiny speaker was really weak.
I went to best buy and played with both the S8 and S8+. No stereo speakers. The sound is about the same as the Note 7/S7. Disappointing. But the phones - overall, beautiful. Definitely going to upgrade from my S7. The S8 is smaller physically than the S7edge, but the display is bigger. The S8 was slightly taller than the S7, but overall smaller in the hand. The S8+ was almost exactly the same width as the S7edge, but it was about half an inch taller. I will be going with the s8+, my GF with the S8. Both are wonderful phones - best phones made to date. The curved edges are nicer - closer to what the Note 7 had. The displays beautiful - about like the S7, maybe a tad better. The feel was similar to the S7edge, but again slightly better/more refined. The virtual buttons on the bottom worked well. It's a great phone folks, well worth upgrading. The only thing that I would rather have will be the Note8, and the sketch of that that has been leaked you can tell the Note 8 will be slightly nicer than the S8 just as the Note 7 was slightly nicer than the S7edge. But the Note 8 is at least 6 months away. I can't wait that long. Will be pre-ordering the S8+ for me and the S8 regular for my GF today.

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