ok, so being the obsessive compulsive person i am, i have to find out whether my phone is t8585 or t8588 before i order this digitizer.
any method i can see that in my device? I know its a TMOUS HD2
if you run an android rom, try this app from play store https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.Bfield.CpuIdentifier
TMOUS is all you need to know (red/green call/end keys, headset jack is smooth flush in the body & not raised moulding on back like the standard HD2 bodies, also 1GB storage)
T8588 is the Dopod branded HD2
Any socket type HD2 digitizer will fit as they are all same spec/size.
HD2 wiki has all the details & a link for example or purchase.
You can get the digitizer with or without T-Mobile branding so be aware on what is being shipped should you have specific wishes.
Dismantle wisely & with a lot of care or you will need a lot more than just the digitizer.
thx mates. i think i'll buy the one suggested
and great app out there
lukes91 said:
if you run an android rom, try this app from play store https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.Bfield.CpuIdentifier
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Mister B said:
TMOUS is all you need to know (red/green call/end keys, headset jack is smooth flush in the body & not raised moulding on back like the standard HD2 bodies, also 1GB storage)
T8588 is the Dopod branded HD2
Any socket type HD2 digitizer will fit as they are all same spec/size.
HD2 wiki has all the details & a link for example or purchase.
You can get the digitizer with or without T-Mobile branding so be aware on what is being shipped should you have specific wishes.
Dismantle wisely & with a lot of care or you will need a lot more than just the digitizer.
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I'm wondering about this size issue of the T-Mobile USA vs EU T8525 vs AU T9193.
If i take the housing off the Tshmo USA and replace with an european 8525 housing I get off ebay, would I be dealing with issues like the digitizer being too big for housing or the wifi board not fitting in the housing? Where is the differential coming from?
I do not think LCD would be any different. I guess I look forward to a Tshmo USA DISASSEMBLY!!!
Any thoughts?
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I'm wondering about this size issue of the T-Mobile USA vs EU T8525 vs AU T9193.
If i take the housing off the Tshmo USA and replace with an european 8525 housing I get off ebay, would I be dealing with issues like the digitizer being too big for housing or the wifi board not fitting in the housing? Where is the differential coming from?
I do not think LCD would be any different. I gess I look forward to a Tshmo USA DISASSEMBLY!!!
Any thoughts?
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That sounds INSANELY unnecessary.
Well I do phone repair for lots of people so it isn't too crazy. Plus what if someone bought a T-Mobile USA HD2 and cracked housing outside of warranty and needed to repair for themselves. All that is on market right now is housing for european models from what I have seen. It's not to strange trust me.
i agree. but the only thing on the market is European because the phone has been out for 3 days... and people only could buy on day one.. no sales the last 2 days...
long story short... there will be housing for the new hd2 in due time, and anyone that needs housing already is an idiot in my mind (i mean the one that came out Wednesday)... and i hear the new hd2 is 1.5 mm taller... i don't think it would have been if it wasn't necessary...
Yeah but, don't you wanna find out WHY it is taller?
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i agree. but the only thing on the market is European because the phone has been out for 3 days... and people only could buy on day one.. no sales the last 2 days...
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I got mine on friday, it wasn't advertised but a lot of the stores got shipments on both thrusday and friday.
Hahaha I wouldn't even try doing that. I have replace many housings nokia n95,n82,moto mings and their not too easy but i seen how they take the hd2 apart and it doesnt look something you can do just like that. you need a damn oven for the glue a freaking oven lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGSsk2mMq84
I did not use oven:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=640328
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=640328&page=2
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I did not use oven:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=640328&page=2
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LOL are you sure? any how is the screen really glues into the pieces or its just a normal glue?
Normal glue? No such thing.
I used a hair dryer instead of an oven to weaken the glue bond that was between LCD and plastic mid-frame.
I believe most adhesives in cellphones are silicon based.
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Normal glue? No such thing.
I used a hair dryer instead of an oven to weaken the glue bond that was between LCD and plastic mid-frame.
I believe most adhesives in cellphones are silicon based.
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makes sence i usually just get a really this plastic card and slowly pull the screen out of the device while using the card to cut through the glue so far it has never failed me (not that im tring to use it on the hd2 unless i break it and i think ill go with ur idea better.
So my idea of swapping parts of US HD2 with Euro HD2 is not so crazy after all. This can mean lots of money saved pending on the fix and where your phone is from. Thanks to asterix005 for posting pics of Digitizer / Housing comparisons.
Anyone with more input on the idea of cross model repair, post in here!
Euro 8525 FITTING with Tmobile US housing:
http://i933.photobucket.com/albums/ad178/asterix005/DSC00953.jpg
http://i933.photobucket.com/albums/ad178/asterix005/DSC00952.jpg
New 8525 Euro Digitizer vs Tmobile Digitizer size comparison:
http://i933.photobucket.com/albums/ad178/asterix005/DSC00948.jpg
So the next logical question(s) to ask is:
"OTHER THAN PERFORMANCE, DO THE PARTS INTERNALLY DIFFER BETWEEN TMO US and 8525 EURO ON THE ISSUE OF SIZE / ARRANGEMENT?"
"WHY IS THE HOUSING 1.5mm LARGER ON TMOBILE US?"
FloatHeavy said:
"WHY IS THE HOUSING 1.5mm LARGER ON TMOBILE US?"
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It's just a guess, but an extra 512MB of RAM has to have somewhere to live
I was wondering the same thing... if I can tale my T-MoUS insides and put them in a t8585 casing. My main reason is there are lot's of nice leather cases for the euro model like the vaja case that won't fit my us hd2.
It doesn't have 512mb of extra ram
abvmoose said:
It doesn't have 512mb of extra ram
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Yes, right, ROM....but it's still memory that would likely require a 2nd module.
Vaja Case
zarathustrax said:
I was wondering the same thing... if I can tale my T-MoUS insides and put them in a t8585 casing. My main reason is there are lot's of nice leather cases for the euro model like the vaja case that won't fit my us hd2.
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Are you certain the Vaja case wouldn't fit the american model? Just asking cause i placed an order without even thinking about the difference in size.
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Are you certain the Vaja case wouldn't fit the american model? Just asking cause i placed an order without even thinking about the difference in size.
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Pretty sure. The way it closes over the top of it won't work cause it won't reach over the top. Plus the vaja case is pretty exact fitting without any wiggle room. I contacted Vaja to see if they could make a version that fit the US model, but unfortunately they said they have no plans to. I have the noreve case which is made for the euro version, also, but luckily it does have some wiggle room and doesn't have such an exact fitting closing mechanism... so it fits decently. But you can tell that the volume button and camera are a couple mm higher up and the top goes a little higher. I had to cut a little extra off the camera hole.
Good luck... hopefully you can return or cancel the vaja case. Otherwise, if you get it and figure out a way to mod it to get it to fit, please let me know because I would love to have a vaja case. But I'm pretty sure it's not gonna fit without you modifying it someway. I don't know how you could mod it, though.
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The microUSB-plug from my brothers HD2 is broken. It can't be fixed. So i need a new Mainboard from an other HD2. I want to buy a HD2 with an broken display at ebay to use its Mainboard to fix my brother's HD2.
My brothers HD2 is the 512MB-Version. I think about buying a US T-Mobile Version with 1GB ROM.
Is the Motherboard from the 1GB HD2 compatible with the 512MB HD2?
If yes: Are there any other disadvantages like less mods or something like this?
Greets
im failry sure some of teh connectors are different, the screen, for instance, i think one has a clip in and another needs soldering, or something like that.
Simple question please: can a mainboard from "international" (or "european") type of HD2 be put into TMOUS (T-Moble US) HD2? (as a replacement, the original MB seems to have overheat hangups issue - but its much easier and cheaper to buy "international" version)
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Simple question please: can a mainboard from "international" (or "european") type of HD2 be put into TMOUS (T-Moble US) HD2? (as a replacement, the original MB seems to have overheat hangups issue - but its much easier and cheaper to buy "international" version)
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Theoretically, it is possible (some did it already), but don't expect to fit perfectly!
bib*oops said:
Theoretically, it is possible (some did it already), but don't expect to fit perfectly!
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How to understand this "imperfection"?
People say, the screen might be of a different kind (solderred vs. pinned). Is it true?
ictimai said:
How to understand this "imperfection"?
People say, the screen might be of a different kind (solderred vs. pinned). Is it true?
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It doesn't matter the screen(as long as you don't replace digitizer, which are 2 versions:soldered or with insert pin!) in order to replace motherboard!
So, the does the digitizer' kind be matched with the mainboard or is it pin-inserted or soldered to a screen (and screen to a mainboard)?
Digi to LCD & as all LCD to mainboard ribbons are same of no issue.
Main issue of International mainboard in TMOUS is board is shorter & micro usb & headphone jack fall short in the TMOUS housing ...
Get a TMOUS board as waste of effort with an international board ...
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Main issue of International mainboard in TMOUS is board is shorter & micro usb & headphone jack fall short in the TMOUS housing ...
Get a TMOUS board as waste of effort with an international board ...
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Thank you! However may I ask you yet again about these micro usb & headphone jack which fall short - would they appear as inaccessible at all from outside of housing?
If not please, suggest where could I buy tmous mainboard from, as here in Europe there are just 'international' versions present on all auction sites...
To make micro usb & headset jack fit you need to modify connector plug moldings by cutting them back so plugs will go in further without restriction.
I would make the effort to find a good TMOUS board, must be a few TMOUS devices with dead or cracked digi for spares.
Put in a wanted request here on xda.
Other option is go to a international version housing to match board.
Would only buy auction site if seller has 100% feedback & a good reason for have a spare board as too easy for people to lie & sell faulty parts on eBay & reading a few threads on here & my personal inbox messages confirms the auction issues ...
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Other option is go to a international version housing to match board.
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I've got an offer to replace international MB for 100$ (with already MB provied). The guy guarantees it fits perfectly to the TMOUS phone, and he has small repair shop in my town (so he's fully accountable) and swears he's got fixed many such devices already. So how is it possible compared to your explanation? (Is he going to replace housing too maybe?)
Plz, tell me which part of an international case should be placed together with MB? It is definitelly easier and cheaper to buy such a set (euMB+case) than TMoUS mainbard itself...
Presumably it is not necessary to change the whole housing, is it?
rear cover & probably centre chassis (check chassis part supplies & see if parts numbered different).
Can't really see a small shop having dealt with that many TMOUS models for international board swap.
It can & does work but without the ports altered or case changed it not the best.
Personally I would aim at getting an international model with broken or dead digi & swap your led/digi to it & job done plus you got a lot of parts spare or for sale to recoup maybe 50% of the outlay.
Mister B said:
Personally I would aim at getting an international model with broken or dead digi & swap your led/digi to it & job done plus you got a lot of parts spare or for sale to recoup maybe 50% of the outlay.
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Just have bought international MB (+ central chasis) from Polish auction site for as much as 38$ (with guarantee of return if not helped) - haven't pondered too much as it seems great bargain. However now I see this bargain rather akward to consummate :/ Please, give me some advice what to do with the whole set: TMoUS phone with faulty MB + international MB with central chasis? Would you advise to return this MB to the seller?
Get an international back cover & you should be good to go.
BTW, what about firmware/ROM? Where does it sit? In a chip on MB? Or maybe the flash memory module stays somewhere else so the MB change will leave it unaffected...
So, is it necessary to flash the international version of ROM before first run after the MB change? There are so many warnings what distaster would happen if someone confused ROM versions (international vs. US)...
Of course there are ROMs good for both versions, e.g. Paranoid, but presently I've got TMOUS WM 6.5.5 flashed (to accurately test hardware under 'model' sw conditions)
All on mainboard
So, I have replaced the MB, the international version put into TMoUS without any other parts replacements! The TMoUS housing indeed is slighty longer but just by so minute difference (half of millimeter) it poses no problem at all, and both plugs (USB & jack) fit firmly! (The only glitch was I had to trimm millimeter of plastics inside as USB connector didn't fit in, but it was so trifle as probabely even not worth to mention...)
So, WHAT A DIFFERENCE now! That TMoUS MB was terribly thermally worn off!
Please, give some suggestion what to do now - with e.g. that faulty TMoUS MB? To throw away or is it still possible to recover anything valuable from it?
Please, tell me also if it is worth to protect somehow the "new" MB to prevent it from this thermal tearing off (and how to make it)?
which is best for hacks I want to triple boot Android,wm6xx and Linux ubuntu.
maybe even win98 and dosbox
I have much love wm and dislike wp
with should I buy T-Mobile ver or normal 512
suavelyphe said:
which is best for hacks I want to triple boot Android,wm6xx and Linux ubuntu.
maybe even win98 and dosbox
I have much love wm and dislike wp
with should I buy T-Mobile ver or normal 512
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Android and WM see: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33988958
Cheers
Klaus
Sent from my HTC HD2 using xda app-developers app
extra storage is nice on the US t-mobile version but at end of the day most important thing is buying a good condition one & that means looking at all available & picking the best regardless of what version.
Take care as digitizer issue is present on all models & revision digitizer seems just as prone to ribbon join issue early ones.
CPU BGA issues is also well known & many digitizer repairs are done to very poor standard or left device with no wifi or working volume button so buyer be ware ...
European HD2 versions seems to be a bit better when comes to quality:
-Hynix NAND, faster and more reliable(more write cycles)
-slightly better Li-Poly
-better digitizer(thickier ribbon?)
We have international & US t-mobile models & all have Li-ion cells of same rating.
When it comes to quality there is not a lot to choose between the 2.
We have had more Digi replacements on International & only 2 remaining devices from our company handsets on original digitizer are both TMOUS.
Problem is ribbon join to digi panel becomes poor & this happens on both types of digi & all versions of HD2 from US, Europe & Australia.
Hi all, i have a question
So my hd2 fell and the screen broke,the lcd is still working and so was the digitizer but it stopped a couple of weeks ago.
Now i have the money and i'll buy a new digitizer.
My question is will the glass for the t-mobile version fit my european (or is it international) hd2?
I don't want to buy it just to find out it doesn't fit or something
Thanks in advance.
I read somewhere that Internation hd2 use lcd and digitizer combo that has to be soldered together but mine is click-on.
Is that the same one t-mobile version is using?
On the back of the lcd is says P/N: 60H00300-00P
EDIT: It looks just like this one.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Touch-Scree...121?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f1cf546b9
Size difference
frixx5665 said:
Hi all, i have a question
So my hd2 fell and the screen broke,the lcd is still working and so was the digitizer but it stopped a couple of weeks ago.
Now i have the money and i'll buy a new digitizer.
My question is will the glass for the t-mobile version fit my european (or is it international) hd2?
I don't want to buy it just to find out it doesn't fit or something
Thanks in advance.
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There s a little bit size difference between the EU HD2 and TmoUS HD2....
It may fit, but u might face compatibility problems
Recommended that you buy the digitizer meant for EU HD2 from ebay Global easybuy
So as to be sure
Post #4 - Not all good advise ...
No size difference between lcd & digitizer on any model of HD2.
Main difference if replacing just the digitizer is fact one type is a solder connector & one a plug connector.
T-Mobile USA version was plug only connector.
EU version can be both depending on early or late manufacture or if been in for repair already it may of been changed to later version .
If have original SPL you can view the type via bootloader. If unsure wise to look first before ordering ...
Loads of info on this of you search forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1341927
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=154235078
you will need a heat gun to separate the two, then you will have to scrap all the double tape off and re-install new to keep the two and the housing together very easy to repair and very easy to break, Hint of advise, I would take the phone to a qualify repair shop for fix.