Issues with Titanium Backup - Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

The Environment
I have the SM-N9005, in the UK on EE.
Android 4.3,
Baseband N9005XXUBMI6,
Kernel 3.4.0-1628120
Build JSSJ.N9005XXUBMI7
SELinux Status - Enforcing
I have just installed the rom from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=45972118&postcount=36 where KNOX is removed.
The Issue
I previously had a Samsung Galaxy S3, i9300, running different 4.3 roms. Apps were backed up with Titanium Backup and often restored without issue.
Now when I restore apps with data on my new Note 3, some apps restore okay and run without issue (WINAMP), however others give me force closes, either when starting the app (Call Blocker) or when closing the app (Candy Crush for instance).
I am unsure if the issue lies with Titanium Backup, or the SELinux Enforcing, or the KNOX stuff, or what?
Any devs that can help, would be greatly appreciated!

I have the same issue, anyine can help? Many many thanks.
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danieljamie said:
The Environment
I have the SM-N9005, in the UK on EE.
Android 4.3,
Baseband N9005XXUBMI6,
Kernel 3.4.0-1628120
Build JSSJ.N9005XXUBMI7
SELinux Status - Enforcing
I have just installed the rom from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=45972118&postcount=36 where KNOX is removed.
The Issue
I previously had a Samsung Galaxy S3, i9300, running different 4.3 roms. Apps were backed up with Titanium Backup and often restored without issue.
Now when I restore apps with data on my new Note 3, some apps restore okay and run without issue (WINAMP), however others give me force closes, either when starting the app (Call Blocker) or when closing the app (Candy Crush for instance).
I am unsure if the issue lies with Titanium Backup, or the SELinux Enforcing, or the KNOX stuff, or what?
Any devs that can help, would be greatly appreciated!
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isnt this caused by a different system structure which came with JB 4.3?

danieljamie said:
I have just installed the rom from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=45972118&postcount=36 where KNOX is removed.
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We canot think like this "KNOX is remoded". We remove only some appl, but the KNOX is always there on Bootloader from hardware.
We must read and understand well this on the link:
https://www.samsungknox.com/overview/technical-details
See also the attach's:

Try to change backup folder in the preference:
storage/emulated/legacy

toofimoofi said:
isnt this caused by a different system structure which came with JB 4.3?
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No, because I successfully restored apps on 4.3 on my previous phone I9300..
kenzolo said:
Try to change backup folder in the preference:
storage/emulated/legacy
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I have changed my backup directory to the correct one (actually on my external card). This has no effect.
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How did you root? TB require root

weirdingway said:
How did you root? TB require root
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Check the Android Dev section, root is done
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For me it's absolutely necessary that TB is working properly. Have you tried to contact the developer? Maybe he needs to fix the application somehow?

onyxogen said:
For me it's absolutely necessary that TB is working properly. Have you tried to contact the developer? Maybe he needs to fix the application somehow?
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No I will do that later today..
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danieljamie said:
No I will do that later today..
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I have the same issue. some apps just wotnrestore properly on titanium

toofimoofi said:
I have the same issue. some apps just wotnrestore properly on titanium
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It's not just titanium restored aps, some aps from the play store won't work (i.e. whats ap, tasker etc) keep getting a knox notification that the ap has been blocked (even though Knox was not enabled).
Seems some sideloaded aps don't work either (adblock, adaway etc)

thelestat said:
It's not just titanium restored aps, some aps from the play store won't work (i.e. whats ap, tasker etc) keep getting a knox notification that the ap has been blocked (even though Knox was not enabled).
Seems some sideloaded aps don't work either (adblock, adaway etc)
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So you are saying that whats app is not working on the note 3?can anyone confirm this? I could not be without it. And Tasker? Anyone?

onyxogen said:
So you are saying that whats app is not working on the note 3?can anyone confirm this? I could not be without it. And Tasker? Anyone?
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The whatsapp verification fails, it can't read the sms that you receive. On the third try I got unknown error, press to initiate a call back, this worked and gives me a manual code to verify the ap. After that I can now send and recieve messages.
Tasker just crashes for me, knox popup saying app has been closed

WhatsApp works fine with me.
Tasker seems to work ok as well.I`m not a tasker expert so maybe it could be borked on some of it`s deeper functions.
I`m running on DjeMBeY`s pre-rooted rom.It`s meant to be de-Knoxified

thelestat said:
It's not just titanium restored aps, some aps from the play store won't work (i.e. whats ap, tasker etc) keep getting a knox notification that the ap has been blocked (even though Knox was not enabled).
Seems some sideloaded aps don't work either (adblock, adaway etc)
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The issue with Titanium restores is unrelated to the Knox errors. Remove Knox completely. Whatsapp works.
onyxogen said:
So you are saying that whats app is not working on the note 3?can anyone confirm this? I could not be without it. And Tasker? Anyone?
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Whatsapp works. Will test tasker now.
Edit: Tasker works fine
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I solved the selinux enforcing FC issues updating the su binaries on playstore after chainfire flashing.
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danieljamie said:
The Environment
I have the SM-N9005, in the UK on EE.
Android 4.3,
Baseband N9005XXUBMI6,
Kernel 3.4.0-1628120
Build JSSJ.N9005XXUBMI7
SELinux Status - Enforcing
I have just installed the rom from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=45972118&postcount=36 where KNOX is removed.
The Issue
I previously had a Samsung Galaxy S3, i9300, running different 4.3 roms. Apps were backed up with Titanium Backup and often restored without issue.
Now when I restore apps with data on my new Note 3, some apps restore okay and run without issue (WINAMP), however others give me force closes, either when starting the app (Call Blocker) or when closing the app (Candy Crush for instance).
I am unsure if the issue lies with Titanium Backup, or the SELinux Enforcing, or the KNOX stuff, or what?
Any devs that can help, would be greatly appreciated!
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That's quite normal when using Tita backup. Especially for the new device, just remove the problematic app and reinstall it. That happens to my previous Sony ZU as well.
For me, I won't restore app to my new purchased device unless apps with important data on it. I will install apps directly from play store. Then do the backup when all apps, themes are settled down. I will only restore apps in the same device just in case something happened.
The most valuable function of Tita backup for me is freeze or remove bloatwares.....

hagalah said:
That's quite normal when using Tita backup. Especially for the new device, just remove the problematic app and reinstall it. That happens to my previous Sony ZU as well.
For me, I won't restore app to my new purchased device unless apps with important data on it. I will install apps directly from play store. Then do the backup when all apps, themes are settled down. I will only restore apps in the same device just in case something happened.
The most valuable function of Tita backup for me is freeze or remove bloatwares.....
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I appreciate there may be some conflicts but I have switched phone before and restored apps with data from previous phone and all was good.
I have some apps where I pay monthly via sms where I require the data to be restored.
It seems to be an issue with SELinux set to enforcing. There are many people in this forum and the GS4 forum having troubles with Titanium.
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+1 here.
I had to wipe data because my first "as usual" restore data gave nothing good : apps were not launching, constantly crashing.
I'm using the google restore app functionality to ensure a minimum is install and will test that again.
I cannot believe there's no way to make TB work properly. I don't know my new device enough yet to be sure if it's that Knox thing (didn't get what it is exactly) or any re-enforced (compared to my SGS3) security stuff.

Related

Restoring Samsung Apps after new rom install

Hey,
When I mean samsung apps, more specifically I mean S Health since I have a lot of data saved in it. The problem is that when I switch from one TW rom to another TW rom, I can't seem to restore S Health data (I'm using Titanium Backup).
I've tried restoring data after doing a fresh install of S Health, as well as just trying to restore S Health without a previous install of it. Really, I want it to restore like all my other apps, but its seen as a system app and I wonder if that's the problem.
Hope I was clear, does anyone have an idea?
Thanks.
can you try another backup app like kousch's carbon
or, my backup pro--it lets you select just the apps you want--not sure if it does system apps though
If s health is a system app, in batch restore of tibu, run restore all system data, Deselect all and then just check s-health data so you restore only that.
jd1639 said:
If s health is a system app, in batch restore of tibu, run restore all system data, Deselect all and then just check s-health data so you restore only that.
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+1
I usually don't restore System data from TB, esp btwn roms, so don't think much about that being an option.
Have a Nandroid as always--
Backups TB or Go back up will not work if you are using 4.3 rom. Since 4.3 leaked and is still not supported if this is the case all you can do is flash 4.2.2 or 4.1.2 these still work. Am having same issue with CM 10.2 have a lot of saved game data had to start over the price of update software. Lol
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VICIOUSVIC1 said:
Backups TB or Go back up will not work if you are using 4.3 rom. Since 4.3 leaked and is still not supported if this is the case all you can do is flash 4.2.2 or 4.1.2 these still work. Am having same issue with CM 10.2 have a lot of saved game data had to start over the price of update software. Lol
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I'm running cm 10.2 and I can restore user apps with tibu. Haven't tried system data though
Ya I tried it all. Short and simple we have to start over guy. Like I said before we are now on 4.3 firmware it is not supported by any backup yet since 4.3 Is not suppost to be out yet all we can do is wait till official 4.3 out for all back up apps to update to 4.3
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VICIOUSVIC1 said:
Ya I tried it all. Short and simple we have to start over guy. Like I said before we are now on 4.3 firmware it is not supported by any backup yet since 4.3 Is not suppost to be out yet all we can do is wait till official 4.3 out for all back up apps to update to 4.3
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I disagree, tibu is working fine with 4.3. Your doing something wrong.
Thanks everyone. I'm not using 4.3 right now since I'm sticking with touchwiz roms.
Titanium backup works really well for all my apps except for those system apps. When I try to restore app+data, TB seems to get stuck. Ah well, maybe samsung backs up the info somehow.
Btw, is there a way to use S Health without using a TW rom? Then I'd move up to a 4.3 rom.

[Q] Migration advice?

I am currently on Verizon Gnex that is running Cyanogenmod. When I get my Note3 it will be my first time moving from one phone to another.
What would be the best way to move my apps (especially the data saved by each app) from a rooted non-stock device to an unrooted stock device?
I currently have titanium backup but since root isnt yet available on the note 3 it doesnt sound like that will be useful.
Thanks for any help / advice you can give..
Although I have not tried it myself, Helium looks like a good option. Does not require root and developed by the infamous Clockworkmod.
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I used Helium without issue
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Dalboz said:
I am currently on Verizon Gnex that is running Cyanogenmod. When I get my Note3 it will be my first time moving from one phone to another.
What would be the best way to move my apps (especially the data saved by each app) from a rooted non-stock device to an unrooted stock device?
I currently have titanium backup but since root isnt yet available on the note 3 it doesnt sound like that will be useful.
Thanks for any help / advice you can give..
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I used Helium and everything went swimmingly. Backed up everything on the Note 2, saved in Google Drive, then went to restore on my Note 3. The only drawback is that you have to have all of your apps already downloaded on your new device before you can restore them, though the app does link to that respective app in the Google Play store so that you can redownload it.
i also read about a fix for Titanium Backup users here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2473114
Helium will let you back up the full apps as well as data. It just takes far longer to do so. I like some older versions of apps and some that are no longer available.
And Boom goes the dynamite! now Free
FrostyOrDie said:
Helium will let you back up the full apps as well as data. It just takes far longer to do so. I like some older versions of apps and some that are no longer available.
And Boom goes the dynamite! now Free
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(thanks for the clarification!)

S health and xposed

running galaxy s5 here on rogers G900W8 all info in my signature.
rooted with twrp recovery installed ,
when I install Xposed framework and reboot my S Health app crashes " unfortunately S health has stopped"
I don't have any moduals installed , I think another post back in this thread said it had to do with the multi window but mine is off and nothing enabled on it. I attached my logs not much there but I have also uninstalled s health app cleared data and reinstalled it and xposed a few times to no avail
someone reported it had to do with the multi window but I don't use that feature and never turned it on.
just trying to make it so I am able to use an xposed or wanam and still be able to use s health without it crashing.
ex-28 said:
running galaxy s5 here on rogers G900W8 all info in my signature.
rooted with twrp recovery installed ,
when I install Xposed framework and reboot my S Health app crashes " unfortunately S health has stopped"
I don't have any moduals installed , I think another post back in this thread said it had to do with the multi window but mine is off and nothing enabled on it. I attached my logs not much there but I have also uninstalled s health app cleared data and reinstalled it and xposed a few times to no avail
someone reported it had to do with the multi window but I don't use that feature and never turned it on.
just trying to make it so I am able to use an xposed or wanam and still be able to use s health without it crashing.
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Mine does the same. S Health crashes and does not work at all. No heart beat monitor for me. The only way to get S health back is to uninstall xposed then restore a backup and reinstall S Health
jawmail said:
Mine does the same. S Health crashes and does not work at all. No heart beat monitor for me. The only way to get S health back is to uninstall xposed then restore a backup and reinstall S Health
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ok so its not just me , I need to figure out how to correct this I really need xposed.
I asked the same q on another thread , response was the following . but I don't understand it , as I don't use multi window at all hoping and preying someone else comes along to shed some light on this matter.
@rovo89
It seems that this module still tries to activate itself by manipulating the modules.list with root permissions. I just installed it myself and indeed that happened. I wasn't asked, not even informed, and it wasn't reflected in the Xposed UI. So it's basically operating like a root kit. That's especially bad when users suspect a bug in the framework because they seemingly didn't have any active modules.
Please solve this bug (or feature) as soon as possible. You can open the Xposed Installer directly in the modules section, but manipulating its files is not acceptable.
FYI, on my stock AT&T S5 I had S Health "go bad" a little bit, finishing building a Samsung ID and updating it from their store fixed it.
Don't know if that helps or not, just a data point.
ex-28 said:
ok so its not just me , I need to figure out how to correct this I really need xposed.
I asked the same q on another thread , response was the following . but I don't understand it , as I don't use multi window at all hoping and preying someone else comes along to shed some light on this matter.
rovo89
It seems that this module still tries to activate itself by manipulating the modules.list with root permissions. I just installed it myself and indeed that happened. I wasn't asked, not even informed, and it wasn't reflected in the Xposed UI. So it's basically operating like a root kit. That's especially bad when users suspect a bug in the framework because they seemingly didn't have any active modules.
Please solve this bug (or feature) as soon as possible. You can open the Xposed Installer directly in the modules section, but manipulating its files is not acceptable.
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You forgot to use the @ to mention @rovo89.
Good to hear I'm not the only one either. S Health stopped opening from the exact same steps as OP.
I tried disabling and enabling the app, re-downloading the updates from Samsung but that didn't fix it.
Any information on why S Health crashes would be helpful.
Have you tried uninstalling the updates for s health? I'm stuck with the g900a for now so i don't have xposed yet, but when s health updated it would constantly error out until i got rid of the update.
Greycloak42 said:
Have you tried uninstalling the updates for s health? I'm stuck with the g900a for now so i don't have xposed yet, but when s health updated it would constantly error out until i got rid of the update.
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I used TitaniumBackup to merge the update into the system. It didn't like that, caused my wifi to go haywire.
Moving the health app out to a user app fixed it though.
jawmail said:
Mine does the same. S Health crashes and does not work at all. No heart beat monitor for me. The only way to get S health back is to uninstall xposed then restore a backup and reinstall S Health
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Xeio said:
I used TitaniumBackup to merge the update into the system. It didn't like that, caused my wifi to go haywire.
Moving the health app out to a user app fixed it though.
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so you have s health running with xposed or wanam installed ?
i did not install Xposed framework but root the phone, after that the S health stopped running and popped up a failure notice, it might be due to root, I guess.
siyue78 said:
i did not install Xposed framework but root the phone, after that the S health stopped running and popped up a failure notice, it might be due to root, I guess.
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I don't think root is the problem , as my phone and many others arerooted with twrp installed and shealth was working 100 % something to do with the xposed and / or wanam
divineiniquity said:
Good to hear I'm not the only one either. S Health stopped opening from the exact same steps as OP.
I tried disabling and enabling the app, re-downloading the updates from Samsung but that didn't fix it.
Any information on why S Health crashes would be helpful.
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I had the same issue after installing xposed. I had to uninstall it and then convert s health to a user app and completely uninstall it (clearing data and/or removing updates didn't work for me). Also I removed updates from HealthService. After that I install S health again from Samsung store and is working again.
S Health is bugged as hell right now though.
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mindol81 said:
I had the same issue after installing xposed. I had to uninstall it and then convert s health to a user app and completely uninstall it (clearing data and/or removing updates didn't work for me). Also I removed updates from HealthService. After that I install S health again from Samsung store and is working again.
S Health is bugged as hell right now though.
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after you reinstalled s health is it running ok now with xposed installed ? if so could you please give more details on the steps you took and it is just xposed or wanam you have
I haven't reinstall xposed yet... Getting SHealth to work again has been a pain. Better to wait for a fix.
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mindol81 said:
I haven't reinstall xposed yet... Getting SHealth to work again has been a pain. Better to wait for a fix.
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yah it took me a while to get s health working again as well , hoping for a fix soon.
Can confirm this on a Sprint S5. Rooted with chainfire autoroot and installed xposed and TWRP 2.7 and had S Health and Healthservices crashing like a drunk teenager. Uninstalled xposed and rebooted, S health now works. Guess I have to sit through Youtube ads for a while.
Ahh... Thought the problem was only for me. Hope @rovo89 could fix it soon.
may be can help to find the problem
hi everybody, i am a noob in android ect, BUT maybe it can help you : i am on i9500 omegaV20 perseus18, i modded my phones with root explorer, i add libs, perms, framework ect, modify my build prop /SM-G900F/kltexx/jfltexx , i did a lot of upgrade in samsung app store, AND I GOT S5 APPs WORK perfect, health widget work ect all works, and i got xposed ...
so to resume : i got S5 healths WORKING perfectly with xposed. hope it can help you.
Yup I also installed a different rom all working great now
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I had the same concern, and after installing a new firmware on the SM-G900f .
I took the opportunity to not do the update shealth and securestorage..I can enjoy and wanam, Xposed
no problems with health

Titanium backup restored applications are force closing on tw lollipop

As the title says, any fix for this?
lvnatic said:
As the title says, any fix for this?
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i dont have issue regarding this. after root i restored all my apps using TB. no force close so far. accept game hacker and all xposed apps.
I have same problem!
Any fix!
Seem no one care this topic . I have the same problem
There was an issue of fc last time on kitkat. There is an app called tb restore fixer in playstore to resolve that issue. Maybe you're using an older version of tb?
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Could be, or maybe the restoration procedure is wrong. After a fresh ROM installation you can't/ shouldn't use the TB's Restore everything feature, you will have to use the restore missing apks only feature.
Just a Q , you upgraded your device from Kitkat to LP ? If so , that seems to be the issue.
Hi Y'all.
I just did the exact same thing. Restoring a KK backup on LP that is.
I've had maybe a handful of apps force close on me.
Removing and reinstalling fixes the issue.
I know - it isn't exactly what was intended, but a handful out of maybe 250 apps is still a huge time saver.
Regards
Elo.
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Do you have problem with titanium backup?

Hi all,
i've a nexus 6p and i like to try differents rom, just to test them but i've a problem with titanium backup.
On every app that i restore with titanium, the notifications will not work.
For example, on whatsapp, i cant receive the messages. I have to enter in the app, wait 2-3 seconds, and i will receive the messages. Same problem with others app like tapatalk, forza etc.
If i uninstall the apps and reinstall them from the store, it's all ok.
Do you have any ideas?
Thank you and merry christmas
Systemless root doesn't work with tb properly...
Andrewbud said:
Systemless root doesn't work with tb properly...
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Never caused any problems for me.
^same, no issues...
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Heisenberg said:
Never caused any problems for me.
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I wonder what I was doing wrong.

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