Ok, this has me really scratching my head. I use ClockworkMod recovery to make backups. When backups are made, they go into a folder called clockworkmod/backup and get a name that is a date and time stamp. For some reason, the date is in the past. Lately, my backups get file names like "1970-5-16.10.40.36". Not a big deal...I now rename them as soon as they are made.
Here's the wierd part. I use FX file explorer and the stock file app. If I search for files/folders that contain "1970" I only get 2 hits. I can manually navigate to the folders that contain those backup files. They are real. If I go into ClockworkMod recovery and do a restore, I can choose from internal (default) or I can choose from the external SD card (the microSD card that can be removed). If I decide to go with the external SD card, I have one backup to choose from. I've seen that file on the card. It's there. If I choose to restore from the internal I have 4 to choose from. One that I have seen using file management and 3 others that I cannot find on my card. They have the same file name protocol as the others. All start with "1970". According to CWM recovery, they are in the "sdcard/clockworkmod/backup" folder. Don't confuse that with the external SD card, because the one on the removable microSD card is in "external_sd/clockworkmod/backup" according to CWM.
I have successfully restored to two of those backup files that cannot be found (by file management) on the SD or internal storage. Yes I have "show hidden" selected in the file management apps.
I no longer need those phantom backups, yet I cannot delete them, as they cannot be found by file management. I know they are there. I have proven that by restoring two of them. Backups that I have on my device that can be seen by file management apps take up about 2GB each, so I have about 6GB of storage consumed by files that I cannot delete!
And now the math problem. FX file explorer has a feature where you can sort files/folders by size. My internal storage is showing 9.6GB capacity with 1.3GB free. So I've used 8.3 GB. Easy math. When I analyze the internal storage, my largest folder is the "Android" folder and it is 1.4GB, which shows as 68% of the 8.3GB used. "DCIM" takes up another 25% at 523.2MB. All other folders are less than 1%. The point is that if I take my top two file sizes (1.4GB + 532.2MB = 1.932GB) and they make up 94% of my used 8.3GB, then something is not right. 94% of 8.3GB is 7.802GB. Now take that 1.932GB that is shown and add the (presumed ~2GB per backup of the 3 phantom files) 6GB of lost files...you get...about 7.8GB. Are you with me here?
WTF? Again... I know the files are on the device. I can use CWM to navigate to them. I can restore them and have had no issues using those restore points.
Here's an update. I have plenty of space on the removable microSD card. I created a folder called "stuff from the internal storage" and copied all of the files and folders from internal storage to it. While the copy was happening (using FX File Explorer) it showed it was copying 2GB of data. That is about right if you look at the math above. After copying the files, I deleted everything from the internal storage except the "Android" folder, again using FX File Explorer.
With "show hidden" selected, and having deleted everything else from the internal storage, FX is now saying I have used 9.6 GB with 1.6GB free. And the only folders in the internal storage are the "Android" folder which shows to be 1.4GB and 2 other folders that generated after a reboot. These numbers jive with the stock file management app also.
My next post will be screen shots of FX showing these files and their usage.
The screen showing usage of locatons...
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Showing what is in the internal. Hidden files are shown...this is everything.
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Browse using system (root) to /storage/emulated/0 and see if that shows any extra files or if you can then modify files.
I recommend backing up your important files to an external SD card or computer or cloud and then physically remove your external sdcard and go to your devices' recovery (cwm) and format the internal sdcard from the mounts menu
Then you can selectively restore your files from your backup.
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I found that I could delete those extra backups from within CWM recovery. In the future I will back up to my removable sd card so the files can be renamed.
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So, I recently received my replacement and immediately got it rooted. Since I have tons of apps, I rely on transfering some apps to my SD to get me by. I read that EXT3 would be more appropriate for Myn's 2.2, so I formatted my SD EXT with 0MB swap size and 2GB space with the EXT3 format. Everything seems to have worked fine. I use 'App 2 SD Pro' to notify me of apps that are capable of transferring over and it still shows that I have 22.7GB available on my SD Card. Shouldn't it limit it to the 2GB I dedicated?
There are different kinds of apps2sd. There's the old way, where you format part of your SD card to ext2/3/4 and you have symlinks from your /data/apps directory to that partition. Then there's the new way, where Google let's you put your apps on the FAT32 partition (normal) of your SD card in the .android_secure folder.
If you're doing it with Android's built-in apps2sd functionality, then you don't need to partition your card for ext2/3/4 to put your apps on your SD card.
I run a 500mb ext4 partition, I am using dark tremors a2sd. I use a2sd from the market and it also tells me how much free space is left on the whole SD instead of how much free space is left on the ext partition.
Here's what mine looks like.
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I run a 500mb ext4 partition, I am using dark tremors a2sd. I use a2sd from the market and it also tells me how much free space is left on the whole SD instead of how much free space is left on the ext partition.
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In your first pic, you have a2sd+, 384 of 457 available... That's your ext partition, no???
Edit: Bold quoted text... Still confused...
gpz1100 said:
In your first pic, you have a2sd+, 384 of 457 available... That's your ext partition, no???
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Correct. That's the ext partition.
its just the space on the extened partion of the memory.
What's the difference between using Dark Tremor's and Google's built-in? I'm on Myn's 2.2 btw.
Also, how do I get the remaining A2SD+ ext space I have? Can't find it anywhere.
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Correct. That's the ext partition.
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I don't understand?? Edit, disregard. I think your pic is showing the contents of both partitions individually.
@akarol, a little searching goes A LONG way. All your questions are answered in the first post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715938
Well, ok... that clarifies things a bit. However, I seem to not even know which version I am currently using. I am running Myn's 2.2 RLS 5 atm which I think might just use Froyo's method. For example, App 2 SD Pro guides me to the Manage Application screen for that specific app to move to/from SD. Does this mean I am using Froyo's method? If I am, then I don't need any EXT on my SD card right? If so, how do I remove it in Amon RA's recovery and will I need to wipe my ROM and start from scratch?
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Well, ok... that clarifies things a bit. However, I seem to not even know which version I am currently using. I am running Myn's 2.2 RLS 5 atm which I think might just use Froyo's method. For example, App 2 SD Pro guides me to the Manage Application screen for that specific app to move to/from SD. Does this mean I am using Froyo's method? If I am, then I don't need any EXT on my SD card right? If so, how do I remove it in Amon RA's recovery and will I need to wipe my ROM and start from scratch?
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I am not familiar with Myn's roms, but a quick look at the main thread ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=793471), seven bullets down from "Some of the features in RLS 5 (01-07-2011) include:", it clearly says, "Updated Darktremor Apps2SD (2.7.5.2)".
Then, in post #3 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8341836&postcount=3), in the FAQ section, there's a link to more info on the apps2sd function.
Personally, I think the write up in the DT thread is more than sufficient at explaining what it is, and how to set it up. What you are probably missing is that by having DT installed, your apps are automatically installed to the ext partition, transparent to the system. If, you now use the move2sd function in settings/applications, you are in essence, moving them from the ext3 partition (on the sd card) to the main partition (also on the sd card). I see little benefit to do this. Either use one method or the other.
This brings up the point, that with the DT method, even apps that traditionally can not reside on the SD card can do so (usually) without issue. I forget the criteria for being able to be moved, but suspect it has something to do with the fact that the main /sdcard partition can be unmounted from the system's view when connected via usb. DT's method secures the ext partition from such actions.
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I am not familiar with Myn's roms, but a quick look at the main thread ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=793471), seven bullets down from "Some of the features in RLS 5 (01-07-2011) include:", it clearly says, "Updated Darktremor Apps2SD (2.7.5.2)".
Then, in post #3 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8341836&postcount=3), in the FAQ section, there's a link to more info on the apps2sd function.
Personally, I think the write up in the DT thread is more than sufficient at explaining what it is, and how to set it up. What you are probably missing is that by having DT installed, your apps are automatically installed to the ext partition, transparent to the system. If, you now use the move2sd function in settings/applications, you are in essence, moving them from the ext3 partition (on the sd card) to the main partition (also on the sd card). I see little benefit to do this. Either use one method or the other.
This brings up the point, that with the DT method, even apps that traditionally can not reside on the SD card can do so (usually) without issue. I forget the criteria for being able to be moved, but suspect it has something to do with the fact that the main /sdcard partition can be unmounted from the system's view when connected via usb. DT's method secures the ext partition from such actions.
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Wow, thanks! I customized my a2sd settings as instructured in post #3. However, I still cannot verify that my apps are placed on the EXT partition or in the main partition of the SD card. Any way to do this?
So, I open EaseUS and there are 4 partitions:-
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I want to extend the first partition (E to be able to put my files on the uSD. To do this, I think I have to make the unallocated space to be adjacent to partition "E:". But I can't do that: I could move the unallocated space to be before the last partition, but then I can't move it to be before the 3rd partition. I think that is because the 3rd partition is EXT3.
So, what can I do to put the unallocated space into the 1st partition (E?
Your 1st partition is your boot partition. You do not want or need to make it larger. Without changing anything else, you can stretch your data partition out to recover the 4.79GB of space. If you want to make the sdcard partition, I do not think that you can drag it backwards to recover the space. Instead, copy all of the files (107.23MB) currently on the sdcard partition somewhere, then delete the partition. That should leave you now with 6.04GB of unallocated space. Create a new sdcard partition and format as FAT32 and then copy the 107.23MB of files back.
I don't see any other easier options... does anyone else?
The "boot" partition is the only one I can access in windows, that's why I want to extend it.
I tried to take the unallocated space to before the boot partition - the boot partition is the first partition, by the way - and then I tried to make a partition out of the unallocated space. For this to work, I had to convert two of the partitions to logical, and so I did.
The result is that whenever I power the nook, it doesn't work. Moreover, I tried to access the files I have put in the newly made partition, and I couldn't anything (i.e. when I open the nook without the SD-card (and then insert it after boot) and go to library, I can't access the SD-card.
The issue with accessing data on the NC won't be fixed by playing with the boot partition.
And honestly, HC is not fully functional anyway. It could very well be an issue with your ROM choice. I recommend the Mirage Kang ROM, since it has no issues whatsoever. HC affords you no benefit of user interface acceleration either.
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The "boot" partition is the only one I can access in windows, that's why I want to extend it.
I tried to take the unallocated space to before the boot partition - the boot partition is the first partition, by the way - and then I tried to make a partition out of the unallocated space. For this to work, I had to convert two of the partitions to logical, and so I did.
The result is that whenever I power the nook, it doesn't work. Moreover, I tried to access the files I have put in the newly made partition, and I couldn't anything (i.e. when I open the nook without the SD-card (and then insert it after boot) and go to library, I can't access the SD-card.
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The rest of the card is available when you plug the Nook into the USB on your computer. You'll see the USB symbol in the notification area and can activate USB sharing. In fact, both the SD card and the emmc are available. You can store and transfer whatever you want in that mode. I wouldn't make the boot partition larger because it isn't easily available to the CM7 system.
So I have installed a good amount of ROM flashes that have you do a format of delete all cache.. blah blah you know the story. There are still files left over from previously installed apps. I think actually running a format on this would be a big problem, but is there anything I can do to truely get rid of everything that was not originally part of the setup before I flash again? After my latest flash, it looked like I was using almost 16Gigs of my internal SD card. Kind of surprised at that.
you may try this.. i copy from civato's post.
go to in recovery enter "Backup and Restore" and click on "Toggle backup and restore of internal storage (/data/media)"
should say enabled....
then go into "Mounts and Storage" and "format /data"
this will REALLY format data and you will loose all you have in the in the internal memory
Thanks, and I definitely tried that already. Instead of restoring some of my apps (winamp in particular) I downloaded them. The app immediately found my music files, which I did have to set it up previously to know they where on the external sd card. Also, a quick scan of the file structure, and I see .XXX folders that have names of apps that are no longer installed on this tablet.
I would have to say that this format was not a truely complete format, but please tell me I am wrong or did something wrong. I would love to get rid of all this junk and start over fresh.
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Thanks, and I definitely tried that already. Instead of restoring some of my apps (winamp in particular) I downloaded them. The app immediately found my music files, which I did have to set it up previously to know they where on the external sd card. Also, a quick scan of the file structure, and I see .XXX folders that have names of apps that are no longer installed on this tablet.
I would have to say that this format was not a truely complete format, but please tell me I am wrong or did something wrong. I would love to get rid of all this junk and start over fresh.
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The above steps only format Internal SD Card. Not Ext SD Card. Many apps keep info on Ext SD. There is an option to format Ext Sd Card, however, unless you really wish this, I would advise against it, unless you really want to clean everything. This includes all recovery backups. Most people, pull the card, copy their recovery folder and format from PC. Just to have backups.
You should understand the partitioning structure in android before messing with advanced features in CWM though.
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I appreciate your insight. I will take a screen shot of what I am talking about and post it here to be more clear.
Thank you.
Steps I followed from civato:
civato said:
If you got problems please before posting them do the following.
Performe a REAL format....
here's how to on cwm:
go to in recovery enter "Backup and Restore" and click on "Toggle backup and restore of internal storage (/data/media)"
should say enabled....
then go into "Mounts and Storage" and "format /data"
this will REALLY format data and you will loose all you have in the in the internal memory
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Here are some screen shots that should explain what I am seeing. The highlighted folder names are apps that I previously had installed, before the recommended format, and are no longer installed.
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Based on those images, hopefully you will see that there is still data on the internal SD, that I would think should be gone after a true format of the machine.
YeeP said:
Thanks, and I definitely tried that already. Instead of restoring some of my apps (winamp in particular) I downloaded them. The app immediately found my music files, which I did have to set it up previously to know they where on the external sd card. Also, a quick scan of the file structure, and I see .XXX folders that have names of apps that are no longer installed on this tablet.
I would have to say that this format was not a truely complete format, but please tell me I am wrong or did something wrong. I would love to get rid of all this junk and start over fresh.
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boot into fastboot and use this command 'fastboot erase userdata' that should do what u want
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dibb_nz said:
boot into fastboot and use this command 'fastboot erase userdata' that should do what u want
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That would be in the process preparing to flash a new rom, correct? I am guessing this because it sounds like that will erase the data I also wish to have on the tablet.
Basically my entire internal storage is being filled by what android is calling "System memory," which happens to be about the same size as these images from safestrap. If I mount my phone and have explorer add up the storage for internal memory it counts only 200mb but still says its nearly full (out of the 10gb available). My current theory is that these safestrap images, which appear to be the filesystem that is my internal storage are accidentally mounted in a place that android is counting towards the total amount of data. I've attached screenshots of the disk usage in the setting showing the System memory and diskusage showing the /datamedia folder where the safestrap images are mounted for some reason.
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Anyone know what the issue is and how to fix it? Oh and I'm running eclipse rom if that matters to anyone.
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Basically my entire internal storage is being filled by what android is calling "System memory," which happens to be about the same size as these images from safestrap. If I mount my phone and have explorer add up the storage for internal memory it counts only 200mb but still says its nearly full (out of the 10gb available). My current theory is that these safestrap images, which appear to be the filesystem that is my internal storage are accidentally mounted in a place that android is counting towards the total amount of data. I've attached screenshots of the disk usage in the setting showing the System memory and diskusage showing the /datamedia folder where the safestrap images are mounted for some reason.
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Anyone know what the issue is and how to fix it? Oh and I'm running eclipse rom if that matters to anyone.
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How big did you make your ROM slot? You didn't leave it at the default size, did you? That would be almost 6 GB.
Tulsadiver said:
How big did you make your ROM slot? You didn't leave it at the default size, did you? That would be almost 6 GB.
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TWRP says my rom slot partitions are the following:
System: 3gb total, 1gb free
Data: 6.3gb total, 3gb free
Cache: 300mb, 285mb free
Clearly that's what disk usage is seeing, but that shouldn't be mounted right? The internal storage should be the content of the data partition right? Or is there another partition that is the rest of internal storage after those two where my files are actually stored?
fsmv said:
TWRP says my rom slot partitions are the following:
System: 3gb total, 1gb free
Data: 6.3gb total, 3gb free
Cache: 300mb, 285mb free
Clearly that's what disk usage is seeing, but that shouldn't be mounted right? The internal storage should be the content of the data partition right? Or is there another partition that is the rest of internal storage after those two where my files are actually stored?
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The internal storage is a total of all three. Everything is completely separate from the stock slot. This is why most people use the stock slot and don't even mess with slots. You can delete that slot and recreate it. Decrease the size of the data slot to around 1000mb to save some space.
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The internal storage is a total of all three. Everything is completely separate from the stock slot. This is why most people use the stock slot and don't even mess with slots. You can delete that slot and recreate it. Decrease the size of the data slot to around 1000mb to save some space.
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Yeah, I was trying to install the updated twrp to resize the slot, not remembering that I had to do safestrap and couldn't update it, and I broke the install and had to flash back to stock. I just overwrote the stock slot and everything is better now. Thanks for pointing out that this was a partition issue. There should really be something in the beginner threads that says to just use the stock slot since I see people asking the same question on tons of forums and not getting the answer.
My internal storage space is constantly full. But i can't figure out where all the data is:
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I have installed TWRP and done a system root. I suspect there are ROMs, backups and temporary files somewhere that shouldn't be necessary and can be deleted. Can anyone help me remove unnecessary files? On my device i have Total Commander and TWRP.
edit: in fact im pretty sure i made a backup of the 'external' SD with TWRP before i rooted my device. It was a whopping 8GB, containing games that shouldnt have been backed up. Maybe that is still lingering somewhere on the device. I'd like to make a new backup without the unnecessary garbage, or simply move the backup to my external SD.
edit2: my backup was already on the external SD..
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.diskusage
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I suspect there are ROMs, backups and temporary files somewhere that shouldn't be necessary and can be deleted. Can anyone help me remove unnecessary files? On my device i have Total Commander and TWRP.
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For a start, I'd recommend making a thorough backup of the INternal storage - you'll need to decide what's worth keeping & what's worth getting rid of: things like personal contacts, text messages, emails, photos, music, videos & similar are worth backing up. You could use something like Huawei's HiSuite for this, as it'll be easy to restore these later when required. What's not worth backing up are apps you installed & their corresponding data (unless you need them for a specific purpose). Downloaded roms & other downloaded stuff can be manually backed-up to the external SD card (with cut + paste after connecting the phone via USB to a PC or similar).
Then, if you'd really like to start from a blank state, in TWRP go to the Wipe section & wipe these after selecting them: Dalvik Cache, Cache, Data, Internal Storage & Custom Storage (do not select System or your phone will not work after rebooting, & do not select External Storage unless you'd like to wipe the SD card as well). This will clear absolutely everything & one cannot realistically get the space occupied by a working phone any lower than this (unless you installed a 'slimmer' custom rom) - but only do this once you've carried out the above backups.
When you reboot the phone for the first time after the clear out, have a look in the HiSuite program to see how much space is occupied by a fresh phone - you're likely to be pleasantly surprised. Then you can begin to restore personal stuff that's very important, & reinstall & update all necessary apps only to keep it as slim as possible. Everything else can remain on the external card or backed up to a PC or similar if the external card is running out of space.
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edit: in fact im pretty sure i made a backup of the 'external' SD with TWRP before i rooted my device. It was a whopping 8GB, containing games that shouldnt have been backed up. Maybe that is still lingering somewhere on the device. I'd like to make a new backup without the unnecessary garbage, or simply move the backup to my external SD.
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What you seem to have done is simply backed-up the external SD card to itself, which isn't really necessary. One usually only makes full TWRP 'nandroid' backups of the INternal storage (boot, system & data partitions) so one has a complete system backup to restore should anything go wrong. But I can understand if this isn't desirable in your case, as it will only restore all the 'rubbish' / unneeded stuff as well. So, my suggestion would be to trim it down the best you can (as explained above), then take a TWRP nandroid internal backup & copy this backup to a PC to save space on the SD card & for safekeeping.
Thanks for the instructions. I followed them and i now have 3,5 GB free. This is after restoring apps, so it's a pretty good result. Also good i backed up even my external apps because the device didn't automatically find them.
Also, gonna try that app suggestion to see if there's anything especially bloaty.