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Sorry to start another thread on battery issues but I was unable to find a scenario like mine.
Hey everybody, Im new to the android scene, just got my vibrant less than a month ago. Before that I had an Iphone 3g. So far I like the phone but the battery life is horrible. When I surf the internet on wifi or 3g I noticed that I use like 3-5% in a matter of 5 mins. Is this normal? I consider myself to be a light-moderate user and have been getting and average of 12 hours or so on my vibrant. Also if it makes any difference when my phone is idle or being used my temperature runs around the high 80's low 90's but when being charged it drops to the low 80's or high 70's. What is going on? How can I get more 20 hours on my phone? With the iphone I used to get an easy 15 hours and still have like 40-50% remaining.
aamir123 said:
Sorry to start another thread on battery issues but I was unable to find a scenario like mine.
Hey everybody, Im new to the android scene, just got my vibrant less than a month ago. Before that I had an Iphone 3g. So far I like the phone but the battery life is horrible. When I surf the internet on wifi or 3g I noticed that I use like 3-5% in a matter of 5 mins. Is this normal? I consider myself to be a light-moderate user and have been getting and average of 12 hours or so on my vibrant. Also if it makes any difference when my phone is idle or being used my temperature runs around the high 80's low 90's but when being charged it drops to the low 80's or high 70's. What is going on? How can I get more 20 hours on my phone? With the iphone I used to get an easy 15 hours and still have like 40-50% remaining.
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Try a different rom?
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When I first got the vibrant, it had pretty bad battery life, I would lose like 25% while sleeping 8-10 hrs. So light usage would be like a day. Slowly I started to get longer battery life (2 days on light usage). Recently I could get up to like 3.5 days on real light usage. After updating to JI6, max I can get now is like 3 days. I didn't really do much and I tripled my battery life by just giving it time.
Thanks burntrat I guess ill be patient. And I must mention that I am running stock.i was just worried because my battery temperature gets colder when charging and warmer when idle or running.
burntrat said:
When I first got the vibrant, it had pretty bad battery life, I would lose like 25% while sleeping 8-10 hrs. So light usage would be like a day. Slowly I started to get longer battery life (2 days on light usage). Recently I could get up to like 3.5 days on real light usage. After updating to JI6, max I can get now is like 3 days. I didn't really do much and I tripled my battery life by just giving it time.
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Hey burntrat or anybody, has your battery ever acted sort of schizophrenic on you? I mean one day I leave it on standby and its drains like 1% in 7-10 hours another day I leave it on standby and it drains 18% in about 4 hours. Whats going on?
aamir123 said:
Hey burntrat or anybody, has your battery ever acted sort of schizophrenic on you? I mean one day I leave it on standby and its drains like 1% in 7-10 hours another day I leave it on standby and it drains 18% in about 4 hours. Whats going on?
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It happens
If ur super concerned get these 2 apps
~juice defender
~ super power
My battery has been draining inconsistently lately. It drains faster in the 50-100% level. Under 50%, it feels like it drains slower while doing the same stuff.
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It happens
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Juice defender doesnt work for me, but ill have to try superpower, anyways I just feel that its weird that without anything changing, my battery drains differently on different days. Burntrat I think thats normal for every phone, the last 50% always seem to drain slower.
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if your phone is draining a lot during standby or sleeping. There may be a rogue app out there or an app that didnt shut down properly. (I guess that would mean a rogue app)
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if your phone is draining a lot during standby or sleeping. There may be a rogue app out there or an app that didnt shut down properly. (I guess that would mean a rogue app)
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nope task manager shows everything as clear, and if I have a rogue app why is it acting up one day and not the other? Btw it seems to skip a daybetween bad battery life
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nope task manager shows everything as clear, and if I have a rogue app why is it acting up one day and not the other? Btw it seems to skip a daybetween bad battery life
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I had the same problem, stock task manger doesn't show all of the apps.
Check ur services, go to settings apps manage apps running applications.
Or instead of that I brought the advanced task killer back to check on things
@aamir123 and burntrat: maybe you guys need to calibrate your battery? Also the stock rom usually has a lot of bloatware running in the background. Flashing a custom rom oughta do the trick.
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@aamir123 and burntrat: maybe you guys need to calibrate your battery? Also the stock rom usually has a lot of bloatware running in the background. Flashing a custom rom oughta do the trick.
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How do you recalibrate the battery?
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Try this. Download the system panel app from the market. You can set it to monitor your system and it will chart what applications are running and how much they are using the cpu. If you find you have some unnecessary bloatware running in the background download titanium backup and freeze those apps.
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How do you recalibrate the battery?
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There are a lot of different ways mentioned in different forums. Try this:
Let your battery drain all the way to the point when it turns off by itself.
Charge it while its off until its full.
Unplug it, turn the phone on, then plug it in again.
After it reaches 100, unplug the charger and turn your phone off.
Once off, plug it in and let the charging complete.
Once complete, unplug it and turn the phone on. When everything has loaded, turn the phone off (note: no charging involved in this step.)
After it turns off, charge it one last time until 100%. After this, go into recovery and clear battery info (or cache, I forget). There you go
Oh, and its better if you don't download too many apps that monitor battery usage, cpu etc. cuz they will contribute to the battery consumption.
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chikin said:
There are a lot of different ways mentioned in different forums. Try this:
Let your battery drain all the way to the point when it turns off by itself.
Charge it while its off until its full.
Unplug it, turn the phone on, then plug it in again.
After it reaches 100, unplug the charger and turn your phone off.
Once off, plug it in and let the charging complete.
Once complete, unplug it and turn the phone on. When everything has loaded, turn the phone off (note: no charging involved in this step.)
After it turns off, charge it one last time until 100%. After this, go into recovery and clear battery info (or cache, I forget). There you go
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It isn't a good idea to let your battery drain all the way to zero since it is lithium ion. I think skipping that part and just charging it when it's on to full, then off to full, then on to full, then off to full and then wiping battery stats would suffice. Also you need to have clockwork recovery to wipe battery stats.
jimmynguyen91 said:
It isn't a good idea to let your battery drain all the way to zero since it is lithium ion. I think skipping that part and just charging it when it's on to full, then off to full, then on to full, then off to full and then wiping battery stats would suffice. Also you need to have clockwork recovery to wipe battery stats.
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When the phone turns off by itself, the battery still has some juice left in it to prevent it from losing the ability to charge, if that's what you meant by not a good idea cuz its lithium ion. If thats not what you meant, then please explain why.
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When I first got the vibrant, it had pretty bad battery life, I would lose like 25% while sleeping 8-10 hrs. So light usage would be like a day. Slowly I started to get longer battery life (2 days on light usage). Recently I could get up to like 3.5 days on real light usage. After updating to JI6, max I can get now is like 3 days. I didn't really do much and I tripled my battery life by just giving it time.
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Agreed. In my case, I barely lasted 12 hours on moderate use with any of the JI6 2.1 ROMS (Eugene's, Bionix, Fusion, etc). I think after I updated to 2.2, all of the ROMS have been giving me 18+ hours on moderate-heavy use no matter what modem or kernel I use.
So where is the "unique" problem?
jimmynguyen91 said:
It isn't a good idea to let your battery drain all the way to zero since it is lithium ion. I think skipping that part and just charging it when it's on to full, then off to full, then on to full, then off to full and then wiping battery stats would suffice. Also you need to have clockwork recovery to wipe battery stats.
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This is true.
Try this, it helPed, me get like 10 more hours.
Charge till 100.
Shut down
Plug in usb until the green battery shows up and says completed our something.
Reboot
Charge for5 minutes.
Reboot
Done.
Happened yesterday. Froze as I was unlocking it. Hard reboot. Went from 24 to 36 hours with 4 to 5 yours of screen on time and about 1% loss in 2-3 hours on standby, to showing about 6 to 7 hours total usage time and a 3% drain every half hour in stand by.
Stock rooted JB, nothing special. Ideas? I'm not seeing anything jump out at me using battery specs or wakelock programs.
Update: Some testing and watching while at work revealed nothing strange. No wakelocks or anything. Thought maybe i was having an audioout_3 issue because its partial wakelock count was at the top of the list, but not astrinomical, and the phone is verified to be going into and staying in deep sleep.
But......at 82% battery the phone is telling me there's under 11 hours remaining. That's WAY off.......is it possible something shorted intetnally when iy froze on me yesterday?
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Just like the title says, I would like to know what is the average battery drain that you guys are getting on your S6 and S6E devices while leaving it on idle. My device is SM-920I and the battery drains about 0.7% on WiFi and 1.5% on 4G per hour. I understand that the mileage will vary depending on how many apps/radios you have installed/turned on, but would be interesting to know what everyone is getting as an average.
I'm running a fairly untouched version of clean rom. The only battery tweaking I'm done is having GPS only turn on for maps. About 1 to 2% an hour
Over night i am normally at 65%. When i wake up its at 64%..... all data,gps and sync are off. And on silent mode....
While phone in deep sleep, it drains 0% for 6H and 1% around 7-8H. All stock and no root.
dt33 said:
While phone in deep sleep, it drains 0% for 6H and 1% around 7-8H. All stock and no root.
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The only way i can get this is to turn on Airplane mode. Otherwise it drains about 1% per hour.
Usually 5% overnight. 8 hours.
Everything on. Even gps
Dark5tar said:
The only way i can get this is to turn on Airplane mode. Otherwise it drains about 1% per hour.
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Not for me and dont ask me why. I just dont know why this happens. Only thing I did, was boot into recovery mode and wipe cache.
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Not for me and dont ask me why. I just dont know why this happens. Only thing I did, was boot into recovery mode and wipe cache.
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I wish mine could do this but I'm also only able to achieve this with airplane mode turned on.
dt33 said:
Not for me and dont ask me why. I just dont know why this happens. Only thing I did, was boot into recovery mode and wipe cache.
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That's cool... not gonna lie, I'm jealous!!
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Just like the title says, I would like to know what is the average battery drain that you guys are getting on your S6 and S6E devices while leaving it on idle. My device is SM-920I and the battery drains about 0.7% on WiFi and 1.5% on 4G per hour.
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At best I get 0.6%/hr with WiFi turned off over night (about 7 hrs). With WiFi on and connected it's worse, 1.1%/hr drain. Weird to me that yours uses less battery on WiFi.
In either case, my 'held awake' time is between 35 minutes and 1 hour, again this is overnight.
I've done a lot of tests since getting the phone and this is consistent for me.
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At best I get 0.6%/hr with WiFi turned off over night (about 7 hrs). With WiFi on and connected it's worse, 1.1%/hr drain. Weird to me that yours uses less battery on WiFi.
In either case, my 'held awake' time is between 35 minutes and 1 hour, again this is overnight.
I've done a lot of tests since getting the phone and this is consistent for me.
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While on 3/4G, Google Services and Android Systems are draining more data than on WiFi which leads to higher battery usage on mine.
I get a drain of 7- 8% during my sleep with wifi 3g off and all multitasking off and greenify(root) on. please help me to reduce it. how to get my phone into deep sleep?
ammadb said:
I get a drain of 7- 8% during my sleep with wifi 3g off and all multitasking off and greenify(root) on. please help me to reduce it. how to get my phone into deep sleep?
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Get better battery starts and check the kernel and partial wakelocks to see what keeps it awake.
I have some atrocious battery drain. Right now im on XTreSoLite 2.0 Odex and uniKernel with pretty much every service disabled, greenified, app removed, etc thats possible and still get bad drain. Ive even gotten rid of the Google app in my quest to fix it. I have more battery and wakelock managing apps installed i do than everything else combined. Literally nothing i do seems to make it reasonable. Right now im draining at 7.9% an hour, I average 5 hours of SOT with 16 of standby. If I let my device idle I get 2 hours or so of SOT with standby of 18 hours. Overnight drain can be anywhere from 10% to 2% and I can't figure out what to do to fix it. And the worst part is, all my wakelocks aren't anything severe. The most severe one I have keeps my device awake for a total of 5 minutes at most over the 16 hour period.
Literally at my wits end.
I even tried to undervolt my processor but I can't find an app that actually works, most just revert what I set after a few minutes. ._.
Stock OS was terrible, my phone would die in literally four hours immediately after after factory reset and not signing into any accounts.
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I have some atrocious battery drain. Right now im on XTreSoLite 2.0 Odex and uniKernel with pretty much every service disabled, greenified, app removed, etc thats possible and still get bad drain. Ive even gotten rid of the Google app in my quest to fix it. I have more battery and wakelock managing apps installed i do than everything else combined. Literally nothing i do seems to make it reasonable. Right now im draining at 7.9% an hour, I average 5 hours of SOT with 16 of standby. If I let my device idle I get 2 hours or so of SOT with standby of 18 hours. Overnight drain can be anywhere from 10% to 2% and I can't figure out what to do to fix it. And the worst part is, all my wakelocks aren't anything severe. The most severe one I have keeps my device awake for a total of 5 minutes at most over the 16 hour period.
Literally at my wits end.
I even tried to undervolt my processor but I can't find an app that actually works, most just revert what I set after a few minutes. ._.
Stock OS was terrible, my phone would die in literally four hours immediately after after factory reset and not signing into any accounts.
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Maybe you have removed too much and some app is waiting for another which you have removed or greenified.
BTW a device draining in 4 hours probably means a defective battery, these things can be very dangerous! !!!!
1-4% based on what I have running when I go to bed. I leave everything on.
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1-2% missing when i go to bed everythings on including wifi
I just have a night mode in Tasker. It drains around 1% over a night (8 hours) if bad cell, else less than 1%.
My night mode just toggle Bluetooth, data, wifi and GPS off and then on again at morning.
Yesterday had gone 25 hours without charging and still have 39% left but screen time of about 1.25 hours and most of the time on wifi. Talktime of about 1 hour. I haven't rooted or disabled any app and i find this is lot better idle drain than my nexus 5. But yeah i can only get around 4 hour SOT because i always use full brightness.
usually down bout 20%~ when i leave my phone for the night.
I left the device on 100% and go to sleep.
When I woke up I see 95% so I check the better battery stats and saw that the phone was in deep sleep all the time just minute and half was a wake.
It say the the mobile standby make it.
I think it too much if the device was sleeping
What do you think? I have a problem with my battery?
no, i guess not because i have arond 4 % loss over night in 8-9 hours. mobile signal strenght is also an issue if you have bad reception. but i guess the drain is normal. nothing to worry about. Are you stock or custom? I am on weta with naptime en greenify.
Unless it's a signal issue that does seem high. I get 1-2% over 6-7 hours over night. I'm not using anything like greenify or naptime either. I get that on Stock 7.0 and on Pure Nexus 7.
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I left the device on 100% and go to sleep.
When I woke up I see 95% so I check the better battery stats and saw that the phone was in deep sleep all the time just minute and half was a wake.
It say the the mobile standby make it.
I think it too much if the device was sleeping
What do you think? I have a problem with my battery?
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5% over a whole night and you think there is something wrong with your battery? Assuming that is 6-8 hours I'm not sure why you are worried. It is still on and, thus draining. So, if you let it for 24 hours 15% seems high to you?
Eric214 said:
Unless it's a signal issue that does seem high. I get 1-2% over 6-7 hours over night. I'm not using anything like greenify or naptime either. I get that on Stock 7.0 and on Pure Nexus 7.
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No, it doesn't. Everyone has different setups, and <1% an hour is not high battery drain.
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ultyrunner said:
5% over a whole night and you think there is something wrong with your battery? Assuming that is 6-8 hours I'm not sure why you are worried. It is still on and, thus draining. So, if you let it for 24 hours 15% seems high to you?
No, it doesn't. Everyone has different setups, and <1% an hour is not high battery drain.
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My thought exactly.
Sound just fine to me.
less than 1% an hour is a sound result.
I WOULD KILL for that kind of idle battery life. I HOPEFULLY get my 6p Thursday. I am on the S5 now running MM and sitting at my desk I get 5% or more per hour drain if I am lucky. right now, if I am not on it much, 10% per hour.
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5% over a whole night and you think there is something wrong with your battery? Assuming that is 6-8 hours I'm not sure why you are worried. It is still on and, thus draining. So, if you let it for 24 hours 15% seems high to you?
No, it doesn't. Everyone has different setups, and <1% an hour is not high battery drain.
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Hmm, doing nothing with phone it was 1% every 4 hours on stock. With PN7 its like 1% every 4 hours. This is with about 35 apps installed or no extra apps installed. So if you're seeing about 5% loss overnight for about 6-8 hours, it seems to me your phone isn't deep sleeping very well, cause that means there is a lot of stuff still working in the background. Like i said, unless there is poor signal.
Again this is based on what i see on stock and PN7.
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Hmm, doing nothing with phone it was 1% every 4 hours on stock. With PN7 its like 1% every 4 hours. This is with about 35 apps installed or no extra apps installed. So if you're seeing about 5% loss overnight for about 6-8 hours, it seems to me your phone isn't deep sleeping very well, cause that means there is a lot of stuff still working in the background. Like i said, unless there is poor signal. Again this is based on what i see on stock and PN7.
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After being on Android since Gingerbread and using Sammy and Nexus devices, while doze in MM and N has brought a lot of improvements in sleeping battery drain, I'd say that 2% over an entire night is unusually low.
Also, many folks do different things to their phones overnight. If you leave it 'on' but turn off your radios and turn on total silence as opposed to just letting it go to deep sleep but leaving everything 'on', you'll see significant differences in drain.
I'd still just look at 24 hours of no use, doze drainage and if you only got 15% drain that would translate to roughly 7 full days of standby. That's pretty good. In your scenario, 3-6% drain over 24 hours of standby/doze is pretty much unheard of. I'm not aware of any phones that typically give users 17-33 days of standby
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After being on Android since Gingerbread and using Sammy and Nexus devices, while doze in MM and N has brought a lot of improvements in sleeping battery drain, I'd say that 2% over an entire night is unusually low.
Also, many folks do different things to their phones overnight. If you leave it 'on' but turn off your radios and turn on total silence as opposed to just letting it go to deep sleep but leaving everything 'on', you'll see significant differences in drain.
I'd still just look at 24 hours of no use, doze drainage and if you only got 15% drain that would translate to roughly 7 full days of standby. That's pretty good. In your scenario, 3-6% drain over 24 hours of standby/doze is pretty much unheard of. I'm not aware of any phones that typically give users 17-33 days of standby
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I've been on android only and since the droid X days which was Froyo myself.
My phone is exactly the same overnight as during the day. I rarely ever use WiFi since I'm on TMobile. My phone has to be fully available to me since I'm an IT Admin and that means I'm on call site security reasons 24/7. To me getting 5% a night would be making me search through my phone to find three cause LoL
Im not too sure what setting i changed on mine but when i wake up after 7 hours i'm sitting at 99%
Every since the update my battery seems to lose a percent every 5-10 minutes the screen is on.
What gives?? Tried a fresh install and everything.
livinin82 said:
Every since the update my battery seems to lose a percent every 5-10 minutes the screen is on.
What gives?? Tried a fresh install and everything.
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54% in the last 3 hours. This is noticeably different.
Have you looked into whats draining it? i.e. under battery settings or using better battery stats?
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Have you looked into whats draining it? i.e. under battery settings or using better battery stats?
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Nothing specific. Just screen for the most part and a little bit of chrome. I deleted messenger, and Facebook. Everytime I turn my screen on...By the time I go to turn it off after whatever activity I notice a percent loss.
My battery life has never been what I would call "good", but after the update it has been even worse. Wifi and location off, no facebook at all and screen at auto brightness. The battery seems to lose about 10% an hour and I'm lucky if I get to see 3 hours of screen on time.
I'm getting roughly 0.6% an hour when idle with 10j
T-Mobile. Best ever was 8h SOT with a few percent left in 10d. I am on 10j now rooted. Battery life seems worse but really it's not. Used to get about an hour screen before drops to 99% but now about 20mins. Just seems to measure battery better. This rundown so far was at work in downtown and I was on 41st floor most of the day. I am home now where my LTE is pegged full blast and I could probably pull down at least 5 more hours of this charge depending what I do.
I know it's not a solution in the sense its not solving whatever software is draining the battery but there are aftermarket battery packs for the v20 already that will make the phone last longer.
Zero Lemon specifically makes an excellent aftermarket battery pack if you don't mind the bulk.
I am waiting for a middle man battery pack that's larger than the factory battery but not as massive as the zerolemon.
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