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Hey guys i am in a big trouble of buying a new smartphone.
Among all the smartphones i narrowed down my choices to these three.
Here is what i like about each:-
galaxy note:-
1.biggest screen ever!I just fall in love with its 5.3 inch samoled screen.
2.very good battery life.
3.good performance
4.stylus
htc onex:-
1.Impressive screen,nearly everyone says that its the best screen ever on a mobile device,is this really true?
2.looks stunning
3.best performance with tegra 3
galaxy s3:-(as per expected)
1.will be a supreb rgb stripe samoled plus screen
2.will have best hardware
3.rest is unknown
For me,my 1st requirement is a samoled screen.So its obious for me to go with note or s3 but what i have heared the slcd 2 on the onex beats the note's samoled?
Honestly my heart is completely sold for the note's bigger screen,but if the screen on the onex is really better than i can look for that.
thankx in advance to all.......
For me, the screen size of Note is a reason enough not to look at any other phone. Before I got Note, I was really looking forward to One X and SG3 but now I have no interest in them and the only thing that I'm waiting for is Note 2
I believe in the States The One will have Snapdragon and no Tegra because of LTE issues. Same with the SG3. It's not really fair throwing the Note in the competition since it is last year's specs. It is essentially an SG2.
I will say the One is very tempting.
obviously galaxy note for me
Well its a nice question? My answer would be that it totally depends upon your need. About me I am a surgical resident and I was desperate to replace my laptop and tablet, for my presentation work, data collection and my books. Since I got my note gt n7000 life on floor and in OR has become easy. I have my book on it, which I can read easily because of its big screen. I use my references in rounds and its amazing camera which helps me in capturing all the clinical findings and procedures. It has fulfilled the needs beyond expectations. No need for another primary device. All ur intrnet , entertainment and study and work on a single device. Don't know abt one x and s3 is yet to come
yes i know that, but as per i have told my main requirement is the DISPLAY.
What i want to know is how is the contrst of note while compared with one x?Does the one x looks like washed when compared with note like all other ips?how is the colour saturation on both,does the note's colours pop out when compared to one x?
pikulu said:
Hey guys i am in a big trouble of buying a new smartphone.
Among all the smartphones i narrowed down my choices to these three.
Here is what i like about each:-
galaxy note:-
1.biggest screen ever!I just fall in love with its 5.3 inch samoled screen.
2.very good battery life.
3.good performance
4.stylus
htc onex:-
1.Impressive screen,nearly everyone says that its the best screen ever on a mobile device,is this really true?
2.looks stunning
3.best performance with tegra 3
galaxy s3:-(as per expected)
1.will be a supreb rgb stripe samoled plus screen
2.will have best hardware
3.rest is unknown
For me,my 1st requirement is a samoled screen.So its obious for me to go with note or s3 but what i have heared the slcd 2 on the onex beats the note's samoled?
Honestly my heart is completely sold for the note's bigger screen,but if the screen on the onex is really better than i can look for that.
thankx in advance to all.......
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wait for s3, if you wont be satisfied, take galaxy note. htc one x has these big disadvantages in my view:
4.7" lcd screen (consumes a lot of energy)
no micro sd card support
no removable battery
tegra 3 cpu uses 40nm technology which also consumes a lot of energy and isnt so fast as others thinks
and in the end only 1800mah battery ;D
atm i have galaxy note and it is enough. Dual core 1.4ghz cpu is more than enough (you can overclock to 1.7ghz), common it is just phone, whats the point having quad core atm? it has 2500 mah batter, superamoled screen (low consumption energy) and micro sd support, also nice feature "on the go" and a lot of more features, also remember about ics update + premium suite which will be kick ass ;D
Wait for s3. My dad has the one x and is not happy with the not so big screen or battery life. Since u want a big screen go for the note but check out the s3 before u make a decision.
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s3 i guess not many know mutch about, but i got the HoX and the Note and it is for sure always is the Note that follows me around.
HoX is still like other new phones fun to try and play around with but then you go back to the Note, not say HoX is bad tho..realy sweet phone.
Problem when you have use a Note is you get use to the Screen and most other feel small and also battery is Ace compare to many off my other devices.
gedster314 said:
I believe in the States The One will have Snapdragon and no Tegra because of LTE issues. Same with the SG3. It's not really fair throwing the Note in the competition since it is last year's specs. It is essentially an SG2.
I will say the One is very tempting.
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You are correct!
Also you know HTC and their tiny (and now unremovable) batteries!
Not good...
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gedster314 said:
I believe in the States The One will have Snapdragon and no Tegra because of LTE issues. Same with the SG3. It's not really fair throwing the Note in the competition since it is last year's specs. It is essentially an SG2.
I will say the One is very tempting.
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There are rumors that there will be two versions of SG3. The first one is for 3G modem using Exynos 4412 4 cores. The second one is LTE version that uses Samsung's own modem chip and possibly Exynos 5250 2 cores. I would say that Note is not essentially S2.
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There are rumors that there will be two versions of SG3. The first one is for 3G modem using Exynos 4412 4 cores. The second one is LTE version that uses Samsung's own modem chip and possibly Exynos 5250 2 cores. I would say that Note is not essentially S2.
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I'd only switch for an a15 based dual core chip. Those things have great benches and good battery drain. I'm hoping that the note2 has that as I don't care about quad core.
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i tried both note and one x, i preferred the note for it's bigger and more touch responsive screen, the battery is better on the note, so i ends up with selling the one x after one week of using it and came back to my lovely note.
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I had seen some where in xda forum that the screen of onex looks better than the note,even better than all other phones.
My preference is not colour accuracy,what i want is the awesome contrast and the poping colours of amoled.
As i havent got addicted with the screen size of note yet,i think i can manage with the hox but the screen must have to be high on contrast and poping like note ! !
so does the hox's screen behave as my per my requirement?
heres the link bellow:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1606636
After looking at those pic i am totaly confused that which screen look beter?All other screens look like washed out compared to samoled but i think the hox doesnt,isnt it?
I would still prefer Note among the rest as the screen is such killer. I don't think I am able to change into anything else smaller given the same spec. XD
ive had my note for 5 months or so now, and i've just tried a one X.
sooo, lets just remove all the fanboy-ism and analyse things with minimal bias.
contrary to popular belief, the difference in screen size isnt that big. its mainly that our display is a tad bit wider (our displays are 800x1280 vs the one x's 720x1280), not a big loss.
One X has a smoother UI and is much more responsive from what little time i've had with it, mainly in that its quick to load apps and quick to recover from dumping an app that used a lot of ram. so im guessing most of the people here who diss the one x probably either havent given it a fair go, havent set it up properly, or havent had much time to play with it.
and as for battery life, all i see is people complaining about paper stats saying that the one x will have worse battery life simply because its using an IPS LCD panel and has a smaller battery. thats just stats, but it doesnt mean it has worse battery life.
battery life will depend on how you use it. if you compare battery life with the way both phones are running now (not hacked, no custom ROMs), the one x surpasses our notes in browser battery life and in any app that uses bright colours. this is because we have amoled, and amoled uses more than twice as much power compared to LCD when it comes to rendering white, so our notes pretty much suck in this regard unless we browse pages that have black backgrounds, or at least until we get ICS browser, where we can invert the bg colour to black. the only advantage our notes have for battery life are in phone call (screen is off so this stops our amoled from being our disadvantage), standby times (screen is off here too), and only if we use dark backgrounds and apps with darker colours (amoled consumes no power when rendering black simply because the led/pixel is off).
IPS panels simply display colours closer to how they really are. i've been using a 37inch IPS panel as the display for my PC for 2 years now, and im quite happy with the colours. its not over-saturated like my note's amoled, and it doesnt have banding issues.
personally, i'd be happy if they made a fully backlit IPS panel with local dimming, then we'd have a display that can render colours accurately and display true black as well as have decent battery life in all conditions, but i doubt we'd see this anytime soon.
plus, those who are arguing that the one x's 40nm manufacturing process is a downside... last time i checked, our exynos 4210 chips in our notes were made on the inferior 45nm process which means that our temperatures and power consumption are higher if you analyse things on a per core basis. tegra3 can switch off cores when it doesnt need it, and also has a companion core to run mediocre tasks, so if you use an app that only uses one core on both phones (ignoring the whole amoled vs lcd) our CPU's technically consume more power.
the only things that peeve me about the htc one x are no microSD and microSIM. the microSD is easy enough to fix though, just get a usb on the go plug and hook up a usb thumb drive or a microSD card reader and problem is ghetto solved there.
the only thing holding me back from buying a htc one X is that i want to see the quad core competitors - meizu are releasing an MX with a larger screen and with a samsung quad core, LG and Fujitsu are releasing quad core phones soon as well. lets not forget the soon to be officially announced S3 as well. i'll see how all competitors perform before forking out the money for a new phone.
pikulu said:
yes i know that, but as per i have told my main requirement is the DISPLAY.
What i want to know is how is the contrst of note while compared with one x?Does the one x looks like washed when compared with note like all other ips?how is the colour saturation on both,does the note's colours pop out when compared to one x?
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so why not go into a shop and play with them both and compare?
Richy99 said:
so why not go into a shop and play with them both and compare?
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thats the reason why i post this on xda
I have no opportunity here to test them both
What i want to know is the contrast and saturation of onex compared to note,so plz someone having both help mee
pikulu said:
thats the reason why i post this on xda
I have no opportunity here to test them both
What i want to know is the contrast and saturation of onex compared to note,so plz someone having both help mee
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Having used both before buying the note I've got a good perspective. The one X screen is sharper, there's no doubt about that. However more important for me is that black looks black so the note wins for me. Stock vs stock the one X whoops the note, the software from Samsung is crap compared to stunner and other custom roms.
The main reasons I went for the note were the removable battery (one X is notorious for poor battery life, I'm talking a few hours on screen at best, anyone arguing this go to the one X section and see for yourself) and that I was bored of HTC. Give it a month or two and there will probably be some custom roms that really make the best of the battery and performance and then our notes will be left in the dust to some extent.
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My friend with a HTC OneX is getting 6Hours battery life. I mean come on non removable battery .... why do an APPLE in the Droid world.
A Smartphone using all the features it has should ideally pass through a day of usage, only phone as of now being able to do this is the Gnote.
It doesn't make me lust after any other phone on the market. It's already the pinacle of smartphone innovation.
With specs that our phone has: quad core 1.6Ghz, 2G RAM, 5.5" inch screen, LTE, S-pen and a microSD card I won't need a new smartphone for at least 4 years (if not longer). Because I don't see anything coming up that can trump this phone.
note 3. which will come soon.
samsung ist releasing new phones like changing underware
Jamolah said:
It doesn't make me lust after any other phone on the market. It's already the pinacle of smartphone innovation.
With specs that our phone has quad core 1.6Ghz, 2G RAM, 5.5" inch screen, LTE, S-pen and a microSD card I won't need a new smartphone for at 4 years (if not longer). Because I don't see anything coming up that can trump this phone.
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I also intend to use my phone for a long time, though not 4 years lol. Im afraid my lust for a new device won't make 4 years possible. 2 years is good enough for me. But I agree after a certain point of tech progression, a product is able to last a very long time. Heck my Q6600 and GeForce9600GT is still going strong, (2 gig of ram lol) I built that in 2008
It's too good. Can't complain. Can't really get up the energy to flash anything except to get as close as possible to 4.2 as quick as possible.
snudel said:
note 3. which will come soon.
samsung ist releasing new phones like changing underware
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I know technology moves at break-neck speeds, but what more can they cram into a device that fits into your hand.
The Note 2 is already way more powerful than my laptop and on par with my desktop at work.
Note 3 in the 4th quarter of 2013
tyfting said:
Note 3 in the 4th quarter of 2013
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LOL... I doubt it. What more can they add?
Was thinking the same thing.
Now I cant see myself using any other phone.
Note 3 would probably be an evolutionary upgrade:
New exynos +2gb ram
1080p screen + bigger battery = same battery life as note 2
Maybe same dimensions as note 2, but larger screen and smaller bezel
Probably a new s-pen
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Better camera, note 2 was supposed to get 12 or 13mp but there was some kind of issue with supply of parts. In a couple of years we'll be using samsungs flexible screen tech
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At least on the Note 3, they have a mountain load of new improvements to make. Their new generation of OLED screens will consume much less power as they still consume considerably more than LCDs. The new generation will have additional subpixels (phosphorous green) to improve the consumption on bright images.
The GPU on the Note 2, is, let's face it, outdated. If the Note 3 comes with the Exynos 5450 then it'll include a T658 which is twice as fast as the T604 in the Nexus 10, and you can already look those benchmarks up.
If the 5450 is big.LITTLE, then it'll bring unprecedented battery efficiency along with performance akin to the Nexus 10 but with double the cores.
We will have phones who run dual OS along with Ubuntu and act as a desktop when docked.
There is a lot of innovation going on in the mobile space. You'd be naïve to think that a phone will last longer than its intended product cycle.
AndreiLux said:
There is a lot of innovation going on in the mobile space. You'd be naïve to think that a phone will last longer than its intended product cycle.
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The thing is that every product reaches a point where it is fairly mature. Can they add new stuff? Of course. Will the new stuff be enough to entice you away from a device who's shelf life is still young? That's the question. Up to now I've sold or handed down my current phone to move onto something with the new killer spec eventhough my current device was still going strong and would last for at least a couple more years. Im not sure the next device cycles will do that for me anymore.
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Jamolah said:
It doesn't make me lust after any other phone on the market. It's already the pinacle of smartphone innovation.
With specs that our phone has: quad core 1.6Ghz, 2G RAM, 5.5" inch screen, LTE, S-pen and a microSD card I won't need a new smartphone for at least 4 years (if not longer). Because I don't see anything coming up that can trump this phone.
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Nah!
I really doubt it!
Hardware specs alone don't make better phones... With those mega-cheap-o materials Samsung is using, it will barely made it to it's first year if not less!!!
Samsung should up the ante and use better materials if they want to keep on the top!
Just saying....
Cheers and happy holidays!!!
If they release a note 3 anytime next year with a 1080p screen. Im sold.
Although the battery would need to be increased to power that screen.
I wouldn't want them to make the screen any bigger though
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...nothing...
All my friends mock my note 2 cause of its size.
But I could never go back to 4" screen of the iphone 5
jimsey said:
Better camera, note 2 was supposed to get 12 or 13mp but there was some kind of issue with supply of parts. In a couple of years we'll be using samsungs flexible screen tech
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Yeah Note 2 was supposed to have the Sony 13mp camera. However LG had a large order in first and Sony couldn't supply the numbers required . So rumour has it anyway.
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I'll say this device is a kind of flawlessness. The battery suites for it's hardware such as CPU, GPU, screen.
I don't know whether new sgn3 will utilize same screen size with 1080p or not. plus higher CPU and GPU
these will drain more power. the phone body would be thicker to support bigger battery.
I'm looking forward to seeing the new innovations coming in next year.
I got the LTE Note 2 last night and been playing with it since. One of my friends has the Galaxy S3 and was thinking of getting the Note 2 also but wanted to see mine 1st. He came to see me at work today and as soon as I handed him the phone he fell in love with it. One thing he asked me which I've just managed to answer....He asked if the was any bad points about the phone. Honestly the only thing I can think of is the size issue. Of course nothing is perfect and i can live with the minor annoyances. I'd give this Phone a solid 9 out of 10.
BUT having said that, it works both ways. A big phone means a GLORIOUS, BIG, HIGH-RES screen. I remember picking up my Nokia N8 last night after just half an hour playing with the Note and thing ''damn, has this phone shrunk?'' How will we ever go back to anything will a sub 5.5 inch screen
As for staying with it for years? Hmm that's a tough one. If they keep the same size but manage to put a bigger higher res screen (which is pretty much guaranteed-1080p) Then i might be persuaded to upgrade. I think the Galaxy S4 will be released some time in may and that'll give us a pretty good idea about what tech to expect in the Note 3.
The one bad thing about having a NOTE 2 is..
that i dropped it off my deska and cracked the screen
AndreiLux said:
At least on the Note 3, they have a mountain load of new improvements to make. Their new generation of OLED screens will consume much less power as they still consume considerably more than LCDs. The new generation will have additional subpixels (phosphorous green) to improve the consumption on bright images.
The GPU on the Note 2, is, let's face it, outdated. If the Note 3 comes with the Exynos 5450 then it'll include a T658 which is twice as fast as the T604 in the Nexus 10, and you can already look those benchmarks up.
If the 5450 is big.LITTLE, then it'll bring unprecedented battery efficiency along with performance akin to the Nexus 10 but with double the cores.
We will have phones who run dual OS along with Ubuntu and act as a desktop when docked.
There is a lot of innovation going on in the mobile space. You'd be naïve to think that a phone will last longer than its intended product cycle.
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Yeah, the GPU is outdated, but honestly, we can always see its age in games. In overall UI experience it'll perfectly last another 4 years. CPU side as well.
Honestly, the Note 2 is more than capable of surviving 2 or 2 and a half years because the components it has are pretty damn good. The only thing that the Note 3 will be MUCH better at is at the 1080p screen, but if it's Pentile, perhaps it won't be that much better,
The only bad thing about having the note 2 is that My GPS won't work at times until I turn the phone off and back on again. ANNNOYYING !
I had the dilemma of choosing between the S3 and the note 2 for over a week, researching it on the interwebs was a pain in the a** as most comparisons offered a lot of uneducated and very biased answers. I finally decided to test both of them extensively for a couple of days, and I ended up loving and buying the note 2.
Because it was a pain to look for answers about what to get, and I saw a **** load of people with the same dilemma as me, I decided to create this brief comparison between the two.
Note: This comparison is based on the comparison of the international variants of both phones.
The screen:
The screens on both phones offer the same AMOLED technology, they offer very vibrant colors which are just a joy for every day use, and true blacks.
The differences between the displays on both phones are barely noticeable for the average user, but here's a slightly technical explanation for the differences between them. The Galaxy S3's screen adapts the pentile arrangement of pixels, the pentile arrangement supposedly saves energy with the cost of "jaggy" lines drawn on the screen, this effect is highly diluted by the high HD resolution on the 4.8 display, this is unnoticeable for the average user, but its very evident in texts. The galaxy note 2 offers samsung's newer revision of the AMOLED display, this new revision offers the traditional RGB arrangement of pixels, this gives the note's display a slight advantage over the S3's because there is no "jaginess", but the note 2's screen is at 5.5" in size, at the same resolution which hence gives a lower PPI.
In short, they both offer the same gorgeous color saturation, but some people might be offed by the Pentile screen on the S3. I personally think that if someone uses it for an extended period of time it wouldn't even be an issue, yet I personally preferred the bigger screen on the note 2.
Internals:
Processor:
Both phones offer the same quad core processor, S3 clocked at 1.4GHz, Note 2 clocked at 1.6GHz this bump offers a tiny bump in FPSs and benchmark scores, not noticeable by the average user.
Ram:
The note 2 offers 2GB of ram while the S3 offers 1GB of ram. After my extensive use of both phones I found the doubling of the RAM on the note 2 offered for fasted loading apps during multitasking, and a noticeable increase in the smoothness of the phone's workflow.
Battery:
The bigger size of the note 2 offers more space to include a 24% bigger battery compared to the S3, the bigger battery capacity on the note is a game changer for me, on normal to heavy use I got 7hours screen on time with 25hours on battery compared to 4hours 18hours on the same usage.
Portability:
Now this is the biggest question that comes to mind when it comes to picking one of the two phones, is the note 2 too big to be an everyday-use phone?
The answer is simply, no. The note 2 might give the impression that it's HUGE, but side to side next to the S3 its not that much bigger as you would expect. It's size might be an issue if you're using a bulky cover, wearing tight jeans, or you're a relatively a petite person.
But overall the size goes down to personal choice, I personally preferred the bigger screen on the Note, because I hate reading small text as I tend to read a lot on it. The bigger size WILL grow on you PRETTY QUICK.
I was very impressed by the added plus of having the S-Pen on the note, at first it I thought it was a gimmick, but now I use it a lot.
I hope this quick comparison was thorough and clear, if you think I missed something that you would like me to add, please comment below.
The GS3 LTE comes with 2 gigs of RAM as well (i9305).
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victorlht88 said:
Man do we need to have so many threads on this topic!
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Yeah I reckon we need at least ten a day. ... These and how to enable the multi view windows always go down well eh?
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Note 2!!!
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The GS3 LTE comes with 2 gigs of RAM as well (i9305).
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I specifically said that its a comparison between the international variants of both phones!!
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Man do we need to have so many threads on this topic!
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You are probably referring to topics who ask for a comparison between the two phones.
Good comparison. I was exactly in the same boat as you. I too was struggling whether to get S3 or Note II (my old phone was S2). 80% of my phone usage is reading stuff, anything from news, e-books, or xda posts. I got used to the size in one day and loved it ever since. I went for the Note II and I don't regret it one bit.
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Good comparison. I was exactly in the same boat as you. I too was struggling whether to get S3 or Note II (my old phone was S2). 80% of my phone usage is reading stuff, anything from news, e-books, or xda posts. I got used to the size in one day and loved it ever since. I went for the Note II and I don't regret it one bit.
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Now i have a question...i heard T-MOBILE and METRO are going to join together by next yr...by any chance is the note 2 gonna b coming to metro as well since the galaxy s3 is on metro already.
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The GS3 LTE comes with 2 gigs of RAM as well (i9305).
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The Samsung Galaxy S3 with 2GB of RAM is the North American version sold with the 1.5GHz Dual-Core CPU, the International version of the Samsung Galaxy S3 has only 1GB of RAM, however, it has a 1.4GHz Quad-Core CPU which enables it to not require more RAM.
The Samsung Galaxy Note 2 has 2GB of RAM AND the beefed up 1.6GHz Quad-Core CPU, it is by far the supreme solution if you are looking for absolute performance bragging rights.
The benefit of the SamsungGalaxy S3 is how common it is, there are tons of companies out there that are making cases, skins, screen protectors, attachments, docks, etc. for this phone while the Samsung Galaxy Note 2 is still fairly new with minimum aftermarket product options.
I'm still buying the Samsung Galaxy Note 2 regardless of how slim aftermarket supplies are, I still can't resist buying such a fast phone.
The downfall to the Samsung Galaxy Note 2 is for the Canadian retail price of $730 for the 16GB model, it's the same price of $730 for the 32GB version of the Samsung Galaxy S3 so you really need to settle those priorities out first, it took me quite some time to decide between 16GB of storage vs 0.8GHz faster CPU and 1GB more RAM.
The flaw to minimal internal storage is that your downloaded apps only work on internal storage so upgrading to a 64GB MicroSDXC is only for music, photos, and videos.
I hope this helps, I've been researching the Samsung Galaxy S3 since it was released in Canada and I've been researching the Samsung Galaxy Note 2 since it's rumours were announced in Korea shortly before September 2012.
If you are thinking that the 64GB Korean versions are the way to go be warned that the radios are completely different and only ONE version will work in Canada and JUST barely work at that. AT&T in the United States uses the same tower frequencies as Bell, Telus, and Rogers in Canada so if you are on AT&T then this phone will also work but no LTE.
Korea has 3 different versions, all of which use a completely different model number from the North American version "SGH-xxxx" or International "GT-N710x" and after researching the Korean phones, the only one that will work in Canada is the SHV-E250L, the SHV-E250K and SHV-E250U will not work, they use a 900MHz UMTS radio where as the SHV-E250L uses 850MHz (also works in 800MHz towers).
This means that the Korean 64GB Samsung Galaxy Note 2 Model Number SHV-E250L will work on Bell, Telus, Rogers, and AT&T with 3G GSM and 3G/4G UMTS but only slightly, rather then auto switching to a secondary 4G UMTS frequency it'll drop connection to the lower GSM 3G frequency which means this phone will only be GSM 3G for the larger portion of use and when you are close to towers you will have 4G using the ONE radio frequency of 850MHz/800MHz. This also means it can NOT use LTE radio frequencies so it is only 4G.
Best bet is to just bite the bullet chose between a faster phone or more space and buy decided on that and that only, both phones do all of the same features so there is no "better" phone but rather which is more for your needs, do you game on your phone? Do you need the faster processor? Do you multitask lots and need more RAM? or are you a storage junkie and need 32GB for all of the lesser hardware demanding apps? Maybe you don't want a 64GB MicroSDXC and you want more space or music on the internal storage or for recording lots of 1080p videos? Take some time to really think this out because when you're spending a hefty bundle on a phone like this the last thing you wanna do is regret not getting the other one
The RAM makes a huge difference. To me its one of the most impirtant aspects of Note2.
Hope we'll see Note3 with 4 gig!
Dont multiply the CPU frequencies omfg if you dont know anything about hardware.
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@VeeDaub
Did you just multiply the cpu's frequency with the number of cores??
And price isn't a variable here because XDA users range from around the world and price varies a lot from place to place... Like where I live, a brand new unlocked N7100 note 2 is $560 my relative in cali paid 670 for the exact same phone
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I had the dilemma of choosing between the S3 and the note 2 for over a week, researching it on the interwebs was a pain in the a** as most comparisons offered a lot of uneducated and very biased answers. I finally decided to test both of them extensively for a couple of days, and I ended up loving and buying the note 2.
Because it was a pain to look for answers about what to get, and I saw a **** load of people with the same dilemma as me, I decided to create this brief comparison between the two.
Note: This comparison is based on the comparison of the international variants of both phones.
The screen:
The screens on both phones offer the same AMOLED technology, they offer very vibrant colors which are just a joy for every day use, and true blacks.
The differences between the displays on both phones are barely noticeable for the average user, but here's a slightly technical explanation for the differences between them. The Galaxy S3's screen adapts the pentile arrangement of pixels, the pentile arrangement supposedly saves energy with the cost of "jaggy" lines drawn on the screen, this effect is highly diluted by the high HD resolution on the 4.8 display, this is unnoticeable for the average user, but its very evident in texts. The galaxy note 2 offers samsung's newer revision of the AMOLED display, this new revision offers the traditional RGB arrangement of pixels, this gives the note's display a slight advantage over the S3's because there is no "jaginess", but the note 2's screen is at 5.5" in size, at the same resolution which hence gives a lower PPI.
In short, they both offer the same gorgeous color saturation, but some people might be offed by the Pentile screen on the S3. I personally think that if someone uses it for an extended period of time it wouldn't even be an issue, yet I personally preferred the bigger screen on the note 2.
Internals:
Processor:
Both phones offer the same quad core processor, S3 clocked at 1.4GHz, Note 2 clocked at 1.6GHz this bump offers a tiny bump in FPSs and benchmark scores, not noticeable by the average user.
Ram:
The note 2 offers 2GB of ram while the S3 offers 1GB of ram. After my extensive use of both phones I found the doubling of the RAM on the note 2 offered for fasted loading apps during multitasking, and a noticeable increase in the smoothness of the phone's workflow.
Battery:
The bigger size of the note 2 offers more space to include a 24% bigger battery compared to the S3, the bigger battery capacity on the note is a game changer for me, on normal to heavy use I got 7hours screen on time with 25hours on battery compared to 4hours 18hours on the same usage.
Portability:
Now this is the biggest question that comes to mind when it comes to picking one of the two phones, is the note 2 too big to be an everyday-use phone?
The answer is simply, no. The note 2 might give the impression that it's HUGE, but side to side next to the S3 its not that much bigger as you would expect. It's size might be an issue if you're using a bulky cover, wearing tight jeans, or you're a relatively a petite person.
But overall the size goes down to personal choice, I personally preferred the bigger screen on the Note, because I hate reading small text as I tend to read a lot on it. The bigger size WILL grow on you PRETTY QUICK.
I was very impressed by the added plus of having the S-Pen on the note, at first it I thought it was a gimmick, but now I use it a lot.
I hope this quick comparison was thorough and clear, if you think I missed something that you would like me to add, please comment below.
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Thanks so much for this. I am too in the same dilemma. Now for the low tech question;
Which one of this got a lanyard hole built around it? Its a life saver for me most time especially in the toilet!
Also hard to justify the price difference between those two @@ Note 2 is expensive, which in my country its around 25-35% more expensive contract free, so I dont know how 25% price bump can justify the screen and the ram
Can get a full IPS Dell 24" monitor for that price difference... (thats how my mind works lol)
My N7100 (the international version) has the lanyard hole, don't know about the S3 though, never searched for the hole
But trust me, the difference between them is huge.
You get double the RAM, more screen estate, more battery and the best AMOLED yet.
I've gone this route and i'm sure as hell loving it!
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Thanks so much for this. I am too in the same dilemma. Now for the low tech question;
Which one of this got a lanyard hole built around it? Its a life saver for me most time especially in the toilet!
Also hard to justify the price difference between those two @@ Note 2 is expensive, which in my country its around 25-35% more expensive contract free, so I dont know how 25% price bump can justify the screen and the ram
Can get a full IPS Dell 24" monitor for that price difference... (thats how my mind works lol)
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When I bought my note the price difference was around $90 which I thought was worth it.
The screen and RAM bump makes a HUGE difference for me at least. The note 2, although having a lower screen DPI then the S3, lacks the rather ugly pentile arrangement which makes its details finer, and text looks much better on the note as compared to the S3. The bigger screen size is gentler on the eyes, and I have noticed that the screen is brighter on the note. The RAM makes multitasking noticeably faster, and there is a noticeable increase in overall performance over the S3(because of the fact that the it doesn't have to empty the RAM as often as the S3, so it doesn't have to reprocess most of the information like the S3).
As for other pros of the Note 2 over the S3, my note 2 lasts about 48hours of on time with 6-8 hours screen on with wifi/3G on under normal to heavy usage, this is phenomenal for people who travel a lot. The S-pen is pretty cool, offers a bit more functionality.
As for the cons, after using the Note for 2months, I miss carrying a smaller phone, I'm always worried about dropping the phone, but getting used to it sloooooowly.
It does not have a lanyard hole, although I recommend you buy a decent cover the comes with one.
mmk92 said:
I had the dilemma of choosing between the S3 and the note 2 for over a week, researching it on the interwebs was a pain in the a** as most comparisons offered a lot of uneducated and very biased answers. I finally decided to test both of them extensively for a couple of days, and I ended up loving and buying the note 2.
Because it was a pain to look for answers about what to get, and I saw a **** load of people with the same dilemma as me, I decided to create this brief comparison between the two.
Note: This comparison is based on the comparison of the international variants of both phones.
The screen:
The screens on both phones offer the same AMOLED technology, they offer very vibrant colors which are just a joy for every day use, and true blacks.
The differences between the displays on both phones are barely noticeable for the average user, but here's a slightly technical explanation for the differences between them. The Galaxy S3's screen adapts the pentile arrangement of pixels, the pentile arrangement supposedly saves energy with the cost of "jaggy" lines drawn on the screen, this effect is highly diluted by the high HD resolution on the 4.8 display, this is unnoticeable for the average user, but its very evident in texts. The galaxy note 2 offers samsung's newer revision of the AMOLED display, this new revision offers the traditional RGB arrangement of pixels, this gives the note's display a slight advantage over the S3's because there is no "jaginess", but the note 2's screen is at 5.5" in size, at the same resolution which hence gives a lower PPI.
In short, they both offer the same gorgeous color saturation, but some people might be offed by the Pentile screen on the S3. I personally think that if someone uses it for an extended period of time it wouldn't even be an issue, yet I personally preferred the bigger screen on the note 2.
Internals:
Processor:
Both phones offer the same quad core processor, S3 clocked at 1.4GHz, Note 2 clocked at 1.6GHz this bump offers a tiny bump in FPSs and benchmark scores, not noticeable by the average user.
Ram:
The note 2 offers 2GB of ram while the S3 offers 1GB of ram. After my extensive use of both phones I found the doubling of the RAM on the note 2 offered for fasted loading apps during multitasking, and a noticeable increase in the smoothness of the phone's workflow.
Battery:
The bigger size of the note 2 offers more space to include a 24% bigger battery compared to the S3, the bigger battery capacity on the note is a game changer for me, on normal to heavy use I got 7hours screen on time with 25hours on battery compared to 4hours 18hours on the same usage.
Portability:
Now this is the biggest question that comes to mind when it comes to picking one of the two phones, is the note 2 too big to be an everyday-use phone?
The answer is simply, no. The note 2 might give the impression that it's HUGE, but side to side next to the S3 its not that much bigger as you would expect. It's size might be an issue if you're using a bulky cover, wearing tight jeans, or you're a relatively a petite person.
But overall the size goes down to personal choice, I personally preferred the bigger screen on the Note, because I hate reading small text as I tend to read a lot on it. The bigger size WILL grow on you PRETTY QUICK.
I was very impressed by the added plus of having the S-Pen on the note, at first it I thought it was a gimmick, but now I use it a lot.
I hope this quick comparison was thorough and clear, if you think I missed something that you would like me to add, please comment below.
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screen may be larger with same resolution, but due to RGB matrix it has more subpixels. 50% more subpixels to be exact. so if you work it out, the subpixel density ends up being higher on the note 2, which is noticeable to most people who have used both.
correct me if im wrong, but i think the GPU on the note 2 is also slightly higher clocked.
galaxy s3 battery is 2100mah. galaxy note 2 battery is 3100mah. 3100mah/2100mah = 47% bigger battery, not 24%.
Souai said:
screen may be larger with same resolution, but due to RGB matrix it has more subpixels. 50% more subpixels to be exact. so if you work it out, the subpixel density ends up being higher on the note 2, which is noticeable to most people who have used both.
correct me if im wrong, but i think the GPU on the note 2 is also slightly higher clocked.
galaxy s3 battery is 2100mah. galaxy note 2 battery is 3100mah. 3100mah/2100mah = 47% bigger battery, not 24%.
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Well yea, transition from pentile to RGB makes the screen more beautiful and crispier even after the relatively big DPI drop due to the bump in the screen size.
I am using both phones side by side everyday. Practically I prefer the smaller S3 which fits into my pocket.
I will asked my wife to carry my N2 in her handbag or else I leave it at home. I had my N2 screen damaged
the last time I carry it in my tight jeans. It is too inconvenient to hand carry it in my palm all the time and
made me look like a flashy gadget freak.
The S3 display looks more crisp and brighter. But the N2 is bigger.
The S3 sounds better. The N2 speaker gets distorted at the highest level.
The S3 battery drains faster compared to my N2. But I use the S3 more than the N2 to make and receive calls.
The S3 is lighter even to be hand carry for the whole day and it does not pull your pocket towards gravity.
The S3 lacks the S-pen. But I do my work on my Wacom Cintiq instead of the N2.
Magnumutz said:
My N7100 (the international version) has the lanyard hole, don't know about the S3 though, never searched for the hole
But trust me, the difference between them is huge.
You get double the RAM, more screen estate, more battery and the best AMOLED yet.
I've gone this route and i'm sure as hell loving it!
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When I bought my note the price difference was around $90 which I thought was worth it.
It does not have a lanyard hole, although I recommend you buy a decent cover the comes with one.
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Bros, why two contradicting info? different variant also got different with the lanyard hole? haha.
anyway yeah thanks to u guys i think im skewed towards Note 2. I dont like wearing covers (its a big enough phone already! + complete disrespect for the phone designer lol, why pay for a beautiful design to cover it up) but might force to if it dont have one. I certainly dislike phone without lanyard hole, its a necessary design! I blame the ever-popular iphone to start the hipster no lanyard hole trend.
That or maybe just get the damn Acro S.
The only thing I can think of that looks like a lanyard holder on my international note2 is the cover over the speaker on the back. Is this what you mean? Because if it is then its part of the back cover so would be pretty useless...
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Go for note 2.....love it.....
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What do you want in the Note 3? Eventually, a new product comes out every year; and it doesn't necessarily mean it is better; and it doesn't necessarily mean it is a success, lol
The Note 3 will very likely feature the following:
Obviously, the Note 2 is under scrutiny by Apple; will Note 3 be out later next year, only the outcomes of the case between Apple and Samsung will tell
Obviously, the design of the Note 3 will be quite different; perhaps Flexible AMOLED Unbreakable Display (maybe not)--possibly same SuperAMOLED like Note 2 but with more pixels squeezed into one display?
Obviously, 5.5" screen display will be the same; Samsung Nailed It!
Obviously, 2GB RAM, 1080p Resolution with a ppi of ~440
Obviously, Samsung Exynos 5 5450 Quad-core (2 GHz or more)
Obviously, 13mp Camera
Obviously, A better battery will be there as seen between the Note 1 and Note 2 with wireless charging
Lastly, Obviously, Further Enhancements to S-Pen (Hardware and Software Enhancements)
Not to forget, The next iteration of Android OS and Samsung's Touchwiz 6.0
*Final Add to Rumorville Korea*
Agree or Disagree?
What do you want in the Note 3?
EDIT
After CES 2013
SuperAMOLED HD similar to Note 2; but 1080p resolution with ~440ppi; 6.3"
Corning Gorilla Glass 3 (Forget Samsung's Plastic)
Exynos 5 Octa (1.8 GHz A15 & 1.2GHz A7 Quad-core Chips); More power-efficient
Mali-658
2GB RAM
13mp Camera
Obviously, slightly larger battery
Android's Lime OS
In a Alternate Universe; Flexible 5.5" AMOLED Display with Corning's Flexible Glass (Very unlikely in my opinion; will start appearing in early-2014)
So, what do you think?
1.crApple has nothing on samsung and will lose the case
2.nope unbreakable plastic screen like the one in the S4
3.With the S4 having 5" screen i doubt it i think they will try to set it further away maybe 5.7" not sure
4.yup
5. 1.9ghz? why? the current chips is crazy fast and the coming quad core A15 one is the bleeding edge of technology why need such high frequency to drain battery?
6.yup
7. (from me) this thread is kinda useless right now unless you are looking for "wish list" then it will be ok, other than that i see no use for this
The Note 99 will have a teleporter function, to beam you from one location to another
***Final***
I'm confident with the following,
Obviously, the Note 2 is under scrutiny by Apple; will Note 3 be out later next year, only the outcomes of the case between Apple and Samsung will tell
Obviously, the design of the Note 3 will be quite different; perhaps Flexible AMOLED Unbreakable Display (maybe not)--possibly same SuperAMOLED like Note 2 but with more pixels squeezed into one display?
Obviously, 5.5" screen display will be the same; Samsung Nailed It!
Obviously, 2GB RAM, 1080p Resolution with a ppi of ~440
Obviously, Samsung Exynos 5 5450 Quad-core (2 GHz or more)
Obviously, 13mp Camera
Obviously, A better battery will be there as seen between the Note 1 and Note 2 with wireless charging
Lastly, Obviously, Further Enhancements to S-Pen (Hardware and Software Enhancements)
Not to forget, The next iteration of Android OS and Samsung's Touchwiz 6.0
*Final Add to Rumorville Korea*
Who wants to bet? Lol. :cyclops:
5.7" screen
128gb build in
Build in HD proghector
4200 mlh battry
The same gps card as the N2
And .... I dont see a way to avoid a very hard rooting and modig change
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Something more in the lines of the following,
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_iv-5125.php
Unbreakable Screen / Display? Looks Assuring,
Dai Nippon Printing’s new screen cover plastic
So even Samsung realizes a 700/800$ mobile phone should have an unbreakable display, but some idiots here don't!
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Explains why Samsung encourages their customers to buy flip covers and protective covers for the Note 2; comes in a variety of 'pretty' colors, lol
Not like Apple is any better, lol
I like how you keep using the word "obviously" when all you did was speculate. You obviously don't know what the word obviously means.
It's called Figure-of-Speech. :victory: Based on the Release Pattern of Samsung's New Products, obviously, the specifications mentioned above are very likely.
MohJee said:
I like how you keep using the word "obviously" when all you did was speculate. You obviously don't know what the word obviously means.
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Camera should be kept at 8MP!!
More megapixels is not the problem. It is the ability of the sensor to perform better harsher or dim light conditions. Even currently, we are nowhere close to getting all that we can out of a 8MP sensor. Higher megapixels just makes this worse. If the technology would improve for low light or better dynamic range, losing more photons, having less light information per pixel, or having more megapixels to process would just negate any technology gained if they put a 13 megapixel camera.
Take for example LG Optimus G. 13 megapixels, and the quality is just stunningly bad. This is the same sensor that Samsung tried to buy from Sony, but said Sony couldn't provide enough for production demands of the Note II. We seriously dodged a bullet. More like a shotgun blast.
Too soon for unbreakable glass.. there is a big market for cases and accessories. For example look at the iphone 5. Scratches easy. Almost everyone has a case lol...
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These replies are too funny. I agree with the OP on everything. Unbreakable glass would be great considering all of these freak accidents but I doubt it'll happen. Considering how expensive this phone is it should've already had unbreakable glass. 1080p screen will definitely be added, I think we're all sure of that.
I wonder when they will add the successor to Wireless N
At least 3GB of RAM, I highly doubt they'll leave it at 2 when there's already been rumors about 3GB phones in the Samsung labs.
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I would estimate no 3GB phones until '2' years from now
Battery life and battery capacity has been improved a lot since the Galaxy S1 and S2; I wouldn't be surprised to a see progress in battery technology by the time the next Note releases in the market
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At least 3GB of RAM, I highly doubt they'll leave it at 2 when there's already been rumors about 3GB phones in the Samsung labs.
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No 3GB iPhones maybe, but I'd bet anything the GS4 is coming this spring with at the very least 3GB of RAM.
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S4 will tell us better what Samsung will put on note 3
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Hey guyz so I was planning. To buy note 2 this month but then I found. Note 3 neo and it is very impressive although most of the specs may be same as note 2 but leathery back cover. And new hexa core processor. Is future proof. And better then Mali 4412. So what you guyz suggest? Camera is also an important. Factor for.me.
Get N3 then. Price should be even lower than Neo.
Either go for the Note 2 or Note 3.
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go with the note 3, it's amazing
i dont have much idea about the price in pakistan. But note 2 sells for around 27000 in india. Note 3 neo is around 37000 and note 3 41000.
Since there's a huge difference in price you have to make the decision accordingly.
I just replaced my Note 2 with the LTE version today, its on its 1st charge.. It has one of the best, if not the best, 8MP cameras in any smart phone capable of 1080p video, just dont fall for the 13MP has to be better than 8MP because its higher, moron thinking.. 8MP is better due to the lesser density of pixels . The battery life is brilliant and its not a Pentile display.
From what I can see, 4,3 runs lovely on it, its half the price of the Note 3 and probably all of the bugs will have been ironed out of the OS by now, because you can be sure as eggs are eggs, Samsung never release an amazing phone on day 1, theres always something with it.
Did I also mention they are cheap now
Enjoy
Note 3. If you're going to buy something, might as well get the best you can get.
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If there isn't a large price difference, I'd go with the Note 3 Neo. The screen is the same, the body is smaller, the hardware is newer (Samsung improves the OLED technology with every generation, especially in power consumption and white balance), the battery should last just as long, if not a bit longer, and the CPU and GPU are more powerful. The only disadvantages I see are the price and the smaller developer community.
Ive been though practically every phone available
but keep Coming back to the Note 2
HTC ONE, S4, Xperia Z, iPhone 5, nexus 5, even tried the note 3. Just haven't managed to get on with any other phone. Even the note 3 was so similar except didn't like the nasty plastic feel to the phone. The note 2 feels so much nicer and the weight is more suited to my use. For some reason the note 2 weight is lower and doesn't topple forward in use. The note 3 I kept dropping. Not that much faster for everyday use I guess if it's gaming your after then it probably is.
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I would say go with Note 2 it has better battery life than note 3 and its cheaper, i don't think there is any difference in real life performance between those two phones.
Happy with my Note 2
Go for it, You won't regret anything