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First of all...let me first make it clear that I liked Vista. So in case you haven't yet figured it out... I like Nexus one and have no complaints.
But, like Vista, Nexus One is being continuously targeted on internet and therefore even minor issues have been blown out of proportion. XDA is perhaps at the core of it. We have two sub-forums... General and Q&A.. which have turned into whining grounds. Everyone (including me) have been whining about issues and reducing our satisfaction level with our new phone. I certainly regret reading a few threads...I wasn't even aware of these issues..they were not bothering me... but now that i have read them... they haunt me. Are they serious? nope.. just like most of the other issues here. I am sure I am not alone who has this experience.
So...enough of my rant.. what do we do?
1) I would propose that we merge Q&A and General. General is enough. We have similar whining topics in both the forums as people are confused about which question goes where and have started redundant threads.
2) Any useless rant or repeat posts should be locked and deleted ASAP. We perhaps need more moderators here.
3) Action against impolite posters. This forum has got nasty and personal. I have not seen such behavior in other sub-forums
4) This forum will get even busier once sprint, Verizon and European devices come out... We need some stickies to avoid repetition of questions.
If you guys have constructive comments..additions.. please post.
A phone is a phone and none of them are perfect. Most of the Nexus converts are ex iphone fanboys. Lest we forget it took essentially 2 years before the iphone could do what the Nexus can do straight out of the box on day one.
I'm a tried and tested gadget freak, and I've also used pretty much every high end phone in existance (except for Vertu and Porsche branded phones) and to be honest, if I wanted a plain old perfect "phone", I'd buy a Nokia 1600 series handset and be done with it .
It makes calls, it receives calls, it doesnt crash, and it bounces when I drop it, and keeps on ticking after a damn good licking (my 1650 actually went thru a clothes wash, dried it out, and kept on going!).
My advice to you - if you're over the whining, just dont visit the General and Q&A sections...
Honestly, there still needs to be a Q&A section and a general section. The Q&A section (should be) used more for questions about using the phone, or a good place to put how to's, or for questions that could be seem as borderline developmental but development hasn't started, or for general trouble shooting where a post in the ROM thread just doesn't do it, or if it is an issue with all ROMs or most ROMs of the same nature (Vanilla Android/Sense).
I do tremendously agree you though on all the BS threads about the same issue or people whining about issues that they find annoying but aren't major. Yes, there should be threads to alert people to these issues, but there doesn't need to be a new thread every single time a user has that problem and wants to cry about it.
Honestly, the moderators are doing a much better job over here then the g1 area was for a while, pointless threads get locked at a much higher rate in the dev section, people are being reprimanded for breaking the rules numerous times, appropriate threads are being merged, threads are being moved to the correct sub-forum when needed instead of just locked to keep the information in those threads alive.
I entirely agree with you about peoples attitudes, while most people are respectful of others, many aren't, and should be warned at the least. Yeah there are times I wish I could reach through my screen and slap people, but in the end, you're just going to end up arguing with people over the internet which isn't going to get you anywhere, and in general is just going to make other people on here think less of you and be less willing to help you out in the future (or use your work if you feel like contributing, I know there are a few people whose work I refuse to use based on their past actions, or what I think about their character).
Again, I agree with you that this forum will only get busier as the nexus is released on more networks/providers/3g bands/whatever, and as users, we need to try and keep down the pointless threads, and flaming of people that post in the wrong section, so that new people won't feel so inclined to do the same (think about it, you see the guy supposedly "senior" member flaming the "junior" member for posting in the wrong section, is that any different than the junior member posting in the wrong section. It's not going to "teach" the member to post in the correct section).
Oh well, there is my pseudo-rant for the night. On most of your points, I do agree with you, so take my post how you want.
Just had to..... Win7 > Vista
I find it offensive that you compare android 2.1 to vista.
yes this forum needs stickies.
I vote no to merging the two forums. Maybe a description saying: "post in this q&a forum if you have a question you think this community can answer"
I've not had no issues with my Nexus One. No dust under the screen, no lag, no touch-screen anomalies.......nothing. I think that a lot of the whining is due to the fact that people expect much more from a phone these days. When the iPhone was first introduced there were lots of things it couldn't do, and had many flaws. But, it did things other phones didn't and it revolutionised the market. It was so unlike every other phone that people didn't concentrate on the bad things.
With the Nexus it has many competitors to compare it to. With that comes more differences and reasons to complain.
I'm with you, though, in that the whining posts need to be filtered out somehow. Maybe a 'complaints/problems forum' would be more useful?
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[Q] Proposal to merge all Galaxy S family into 1 neat and big sub forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=764084
That is brilliant. Can't believe I did not post it first, it is a peeve of mine, big time.
I would like to see this as well.
I support this!
It was like that at first, but I think they did this so that people wouldnt start flashing things on their phones without knowing which one it's for.
I wouldnt mind a general "Galaxy S General" forum though.
yes, this would be a definite plus. and give us an off topic section for us sgs users as well.
+1 .....10 char
^bump^
as i don't have any Mod power to make it a sticky, much less make the original topic cross posted across the 5 SGS forums
115 Yes
7 No
Wow...
I didn't at first, but I found my self looking at the other forums today because its really obvious that there is tons of cross over. Of course I'd agree that development should be seperate, but cases and other things should totally be combined.
I just hope my sticky stays a sticky
jz9833 said:
It was like that at first, but I think they did this so that people wouldnt start flashing things on their phones without knowing which one it's for.
I wouldnt mind a general "Galaxy S General" forum though.
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It wasn't exactly like that at first I think..more precisely only the i9000 forum existed as it was the only device out at the time..
Right now we got almost the devices out the door and most of the stuff are compatible..if not minor tweaks make it compatible...
But yes thats exactly what the proposal will do..it will separate out the development with some room for cross development and keep the other categories like general the same
As long as the development sections are separate I think this its a good idea..
Especially if we have enough mods to watch over us...
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and also take out the Galaxy Spica subsection which no one seems to use.
I do like the idea though the only thing I'm worried about is people getting confused in the development section. And I'm assuming since the software is basically the same for all the phones then themes would work across all phones.
yeah that might be an issue. if we do merge, I think it's best if people start id'ing their thread with something like
[CAPT] dadada
[VIBR] dadada
[EPIC] dadada
Let me clear things up a bit....the Development thread will have sub-forums for each device...so anything that is unique or only for 1 device will be in the sub-forum...things that work on all devices or multiple devices will go into the main Development forum where we will tag it something like this "[V][C][F]" which would mean works for Vibrant, Captivate, Fascinate only.
I agree, checking all the other SGS forums is a litle annoying.
kizer said:
I didn't at first, but I found my self looking at the other forums today because its really obvious that there is tons of cross over. Of course I'd agree that development should be seperate, but cases and other things should totally be combined.
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I was under the impression that the Vibrant and Captivate don't use the same cases (Captivate has lines vs curves), so already there is an instance where this idea falls apart.
Theres going to be a SGS with a keyboard soon, that case won't be compatible with cases for the other phones.
So....we could mix the Vibrant and i9000 forums because they're basically the same form factor, but why bother.
There is enough different about all these phones that it's probably better keeping them separated.
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With that said, when there is an issue with one phone, it does seem to carry over to the others and it is freaking annoying having to delve the forums of the other phones to find a solution.
Unfortunately, what is the "better" solution? Either one is going to be somewhat confusing for somebody.
Bump.
To the people that still doesn't know about this idea, please go vote if you would like to see the big Galaxy S family forum merged.
Thanks.
I'm starting to see more threads about the sgs2 and others more than the Vibrant itself. If you want opinions or have question on a certain phone other than the Vibrant please either look for the appropriate forum (assuming there is one for that phone) or google-google-google and you should find the answers your looking for.
Keep this forum for the people who still want to hold on to their Vibrants (like me), cuz maybe they are still satisfied with it (like me), are too cheap to pay to upgrade (like me), can't afford to upgrade (fortunately not me), feel the phone still could pretty much do what new ones coming out could do (like me), or just feel that until a new phone could get me a beer, throw the trash, drive for me when i'm drunk, and give me , then its not worth the upgrade (like me).
YES the Vibrant IS old (like me) but this is its forum and I don't want to sort through multiple threads of different phones to see what's up still with the Vibrant or to see what question this person who just got a Vibrant (yes there is people barely getting one) has.
mrrobc97 said:
I'm starting to see more threads about the sgs2 and others more than the Vibrant itself. If you want opinions or have question on a certain phone other than the Vibrant please either look for the appropriate forum (assuming there is one for that phone) or google-google-google and you should find the answers your looking for.
Keep this forum for the people who still want to hold on to their Vibrants (like me), cuz maybe they are still satisfied with it (like me), are too cheap to pay to upgrade (like me), can't afford to upgrade (fortunately not me), feel the phone still could pretty much do what new ones coming out could do (like me), or just feel that until a new phone could get me a beer, throw the trash, drive for me when i'm drunk, and give me , then its not worth the upgrade (like me).
YES the Vibrant IS old (like me) but this is its forum and I don't want to sort through multiple threads of different phones to see what's up still with the Vibrant or to see what question this person who just got a Vibrant (yes there is people barely getting one) has.
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i think its just the general section. for the most part i the other sections are just vibrant stuff.
I think most of us who have the Vibrant and are looking at new phones are just used to posting here and want other vibrant users opinions...
i see your point though, but i kind of like reading about some of these other phones from Vibrant user perspectives
kboater said:
i think its just the general section. for the most part i the other sections are just vibrant stuff.
I think most of us who have the Vibrant and are looking at new phones are just used to posting here and want other vibrant users opinions...
i see your point though, but i kind of like reading about some of these other phones from Vibrant user perspectives
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Right, but for me its a section about general things about the Vibrant that would not fall into the other sections. I feel if you really wanna find out about a certain phone other than the Vibrant it would be best to go to the "general" section of that phone forum and ask the actual users of that phone. If its about a phone coming out then google.
Maybe Im being a prick cuz I do remember starting a thread about which Android tablet would you get a while back to get opinions but its just it seems that now the main focus has been on the SGS2. Just see how many threads have been open about it in this forum.
Sent from my Bionixly-Blutiful-Vibrant
i agree with kboater a bit and with you a bit.
i put up a hands on of the sgs2 from a vibrant owner's perspective. i did this because i know someone going from an OG Droid to an SGS2 is going to praise it like a god, but thats not how people going from a vibrant to a sgs2 are going to feel. people with a vibrant specifically are worried about GPS, build quality, screen quality, and speed. if you don't care, then don't read.
however you are right when there are threads that have nothing to do with the vibrant at all or even samsung (ie the Amaze 4G).
this is still a vibrant forum and if you have any questions about it, people will still answer them...especially in the Q/A section. General is broad and i think my thread is still on topic in that regard. also, up until very recently, a tmobile gs2 forum didn't even exist, and the bulk of the future posters for that forum are here.
Looks like we all agree to agree lol.
I feel the same as you 3 .
90% of the problem is theres no forum for the sgs2 as of yet
This is a general section for talking about things that interest Vibrant users that don't fit in the other forums, right? New phones to replace our aging Vibrants is of interest to a lot of Vibrant owners, so I feel like its appropriate here.
Sent from my rough sketch of a Vibrant on a brick.
Droidificator said:
This is a general section for talking about things that interest Vibrant users that don't fit in the other forums, right? New phones to replace our aging Vibrants is of interest to a lot of Vibrant owners, so I feel like its appropriate here.
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+1 to that plus up until yesterday morning there wasnt a tmobil SGS2 forum but now there is so u probably wont see much more of that stuff and if u do it be from me because i admit i posted alot of it about the SGS2. But Droidificator has a point but u will see alot less of that stuff since our forum is up and running now.
Hey, whats goin on in here?
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Nothing. Just some guy mad cuz they are talking more about other phones than the Vibrant. Dont pay attention to him.:-D
Sent from my Bionixly-Blutiful-Vibrant
Apart from the usefull threads, can the mods wipe this and QnA board completely, it's painfully how much people are moaning about problems. I don't think I've seen a phone been complained about so much
This happens on every launch, should've seen galaxy nexus' launch with people whining about old SoC, crappy camera, pentile display and what not. Don't think they'll wipe the board as they haven't ever done that yet.
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Wont really make a difference lol, the noobs would just flood the forum again anyway
i'd just want to delete "a vs b" threads - instead of being objective, they're just filled with blatant and pissy fanboyism.
The other threads will eventually die out but those always stay up on the front page. fanboy fight to the death
Most posters will wait till they actually have the phone to start posting. Once they do, these garbage opinion threads will naturally start drifting to the bottom. It's more under control than it appears. Give it a couple weeks after launch and we will be fine in here.
Yep, just normal transition...
What really bothers me is the low price of this device.
Different type of idiots will buy this phone and decide to root it just out of curiosity.
Then they will bombard "Development Forum" with unbelievably ignorant posts. Developers leave because of this. It happened in Galaxy Note forum and I'm sure it happens with every single forum nowadays.
omersak said:
i'd just want to delete "a vs b" threads - instead of being objective, they're just filled with blatant and pissy fanboyism.
The other threads will eventually die out but those always stay up on the front page. fanboy fight to the death
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I'd also vote to remove the "Should I get this phone?" threads.
ruinkhan said:
What really bothers me is the low price of this device.
Different type of idiots will buy this phone and decide to root it just out of curiosity.
Then they will bombard "Development Forum" with unbelievably ignorant posts. Developers leave because of this. It happened in Galaxy Note forum and I'm sure it happens with every single forum nowadays.
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I think it happens to all phones now days. Keep on mind that millions of devices are activated everyday so its becoming increasingly harder for XDA to enforce all the rules (like search before you post etc etc) and everyone is a volunteer, so you know ? Times are changing I guess we better get used too LOL
But god knows I agree with you,even tho I only signed up like 2 years ago I remember coming here way before that just to read, everyone here was so knowledgeable, and far ahead of my skill level, it just made me refrain from posting and look stupid ! Now ??? 60% of the things I read here are stupid answers to stupid questions that have been answered numerous times before
My first device was the HD2, the forum there was nice and helpful, ROMS where actually good and everything, Getting WP7 activated and messing around with ICS
Moved to the SGS1, pretty much same thing, a lot of new stuff was coming along at my end of the device (Gamerzrom ect)
Moved to SGS2, started off well, then everyday was a new ROM that was basically stock with 'speed mods' and 'improvements made all around' and an ugly skin
Im hoping the N4 will have a somewhat good developer base and not idiots making a themed ROM everyday.
Anyway, this is going to be a painful 6 days till I can order it ):. I will see you lot then
Have this question also for Note 10.1 2014
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2576464
The important part starts at point 4
1. The inevitable rant:
- If it wasn´t for the Stylus I would go for the Ipad Air... Why? 32GB only - No 64 or 128 available for me - and no way to move 90% of Games and big to SD without root.
- graphics for example RealRacing3 - Graphics on Note 10.1 LTE 2014 very bad compared to ipad4 Don't get me wrong, compared with other games graphics rock... But compared to an Ipad4 they just suck.
Have both - and best comparison you get in the car selection menu. On the ipad4 I can read even the printing on the trucks in the back... on it's just a blurry paste.
- KNOX
2. Please DON´T bother to write here, if your post is plain stupid - sorry to be offensive - Android/This and other android related forums were once great, until it became big and for the masses - so it had to be dumbed down to a level where we are now with no end in sight
- If you dont know what I mean then dont post, you are one of them.
Examples:
-- Samsungs remote deactivation as theft protection sure won't be supported much longer, because dumb user support is costing carriers too much money.
-- 2 SD is not working as it should be because for dumb users it createt to much trouble so now we have the f*****g internal eMMC posing as EXTERNAL SD
-- permissions - soon we will have no way to change them and shut down spying features of - for example torchlight needing full internet access and contacts - thanks to dumb users
3. I know this is a dilemma - this forum should be for all users - old ones and newcommers - It helped me a lot to enjoy and use and get so sad to see the downfall
but soemwhere should be a line and this was crossed with a long time ago
-- All hopes are now with UBUNTU which should work on Note3 and Note 10.1 2014 - comming middle to end 2014
-- Hopes of what: Not being for dumb people
I have no clue about Linux/Ubuntu - same as I started with - but I learned/experimented/read - and I avoided stupid quesions and postings - looking at Linux / Ubuntu forums its still like heaven. Tons of stuff to read, forums are full intelligent questions and responses, because those people actually have an IQ above the average user now - who has to be able to register to a damn forum
4 What I actually wanted to know
Actually I have ignored now what I expect from others: read and inform more than a day before posting
But here we go:
- I want so swap external with internal SD (mostly for my games) have not found a to do this without root ( I know there isnt any )
+Is there a way without at least permanent root?
+How reliable are root-requiering options like: modyfying vold.fstab or Int2ext or others? - had sometimes trouble like dublicate files - folders - crashes after some time. Especially after reboots with those solutions on my Note 1
+What is the best root solution- maybe with hide root option (integrated or external)? so Samsung HUB (Video, Learning...) and mirroring stays usable?
But it has to work with an Internal - External SD swapping even if temporarily deactivated/hidden for the metioned Samsung stuff to work
+ Knox should / must be untouched
Um first our note 3 can save to Sd under application manager.
Second. Comparing ipad to android is like comparing apples to oranges and in my case the taste of an orange is better.
Both sides have their pros and cons but this android and the mighty note 3.
Real racing is your comparison too?
That may look on an ipad but nothing is better than a super omled screen.
Anyways if you don't like your note 10.1 2014 give it me
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jetbruceli said:
Um first our note 3 can save to Sd under application manager.
Second. Comparing ipad to android is like comparing apples to oranges and in my case the taste of an orange is better.
Both sides have their pros and cons but this android and the mighty note 3.
Real racing is your comparison too?
That may look on an ipad but nothing is better than a super omled screen.
Anyways if you don't like your note 10.1 2014 give it me
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"application manager" WTF Please go away... apperently you have no clue what I am talking about
apples... oranges? C´mon compare Battlefield 4 Xbox 360 Version to xbox one Version thats the difference between games on iOS and Android. This has 0 to do do with taste... please go away
"nothing is better than a super omled screen. " I told that I dont want people like you to post in my thread.
People like you destryed XDA tons of posts... most of them useless
FOR GODS SAKE:
if you have tried some of the stuff please post your experience
If and how it was working or if we should wait.
If you know any other way not mentioned (but I think I have covered all possible solutions please share it
When I have time next week or the week after that I will try it myself
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Yeah Apples to oranges. Also I can reply to any post or thread on here as in my right.
If you didn't want to hear about others opinions then open up s-note and make a note to one self and leave on your tablet. Or better yet make a thread on the ipad 4 forum
Wait there is none because they don't have one.
You complain about space yet this device can handle 64GB storage with apps to Sd support.
You complain about a piece of service through sammy which seems to be here for the long run. If you need more support to wipe a device or find its location then, the Google has a service too called device manager.
The note 3 has a much a higher dpi than any apple device too.
I think you should not place your complaints about a device that you clearly don't know enough about.
Instead you come here to talk crap about it hoping that some other ipad fan boy would agree with you.
Sorry I am not the one you hoped to hear from.
Since your not a mod you will have to see my posts on your thread too!!
Good luck
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By the way your title shows a q there so maybe this should be in the Q&A section
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jetbruceli said:
Yeah Apples to oranges. Also I can reply to any post or thread on here as in my right.
If you didn't want to hear about others opinions then open up s-note and make a note to one self and leave on your tablet. Or better yet make a thread on the ipad 4 forum
Wait there is none because they don't have one.
You complain about space yet this device can handle 64GB storage with apps to Sd support.
You complain about a piece of service through sammy which seems to be here for the long run. If you need more support to wipe a device or find its location then, the Google has a service too called device manager.
The note 3 has a much a higher dpi than any apple device too.
I think you should not place your complaints about a device that you clearly don't know enough about.
Instead you come here to talk crap about it hoping that some other ipad fan boy would agree with you.
Sorry I am not the one you hoped to hear from.
Since your not a mod you will have to see my posts on your thread too!!
Good luck
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By the way your title shows a q there so maybe this should be in the Q&A section
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Sir... you are just intellectually incapable of understanding this tread... I am talking about software not hardware
Am am asking about a binding solution not some app to Sd bull**** - but apparantly you can´t grasp it so read and learn!
I have asked some simple questions... you cant answer so why are you bothering writing your bull**** here?
what this tread was for, were user experiences... what is working and what is not working... to save me time and others who want the same to read quickly through this thread what is possible and what not...
BUT it seems even this thread is becomming like every other one... everybody is writing some bull**** just for the sake of typing
IF someone comes here to write his/hers experience it maybe full of useless posts as 90% of this forum
Hard to find a solution even if searching hard...
pointless maybe for someone to answer because of all the pointless stuff alredy posted
I am asking about the best solution that is actually working without causing too many problems - There are multiple threads here with solutions
but
A not working with both
B user experiences are not good
C Could/Should be what I am looking for but no user experience posted because - forgotten about - thread title/tags not correct
FOR GODS SAKE:
if you have tried some of the stuff please post your experience
If and how it was working or if we should wait.
If you know any other way not mentioned (but I think I have covered all possible solutions please share it
When I have time next week or the week after that I will try it myself
ALL the others PLEASE GO AWAY
"ALL the others PLEASE GO AWAY"
Close the thread if you don't want replies (reported it for you to save your time) - anyone is free to reply with their opinion.
This doesn't seem to be a topic anyway and seems to be a mindless rant - and this isn't the place for such posts.
Skander1998 said:
"ALL the others PLEASE GO AWAY"
Close the thread if you don't want replies - anyone is free to reply with their opinion.
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I have asked specific questions.
You cant answer to a this type of specific question with an opinion.
This is whats making this and most android forums useless... stupid posts...
Dont you get it, that posting useless stuff in threads makes it much harder for all?
Flyer.michael said:
Sir... you are just intellectually incapable of understanding this tread... I am talking about software not hardware
Am am asking about a binding solution not some app to Sd bull**** - but apparantly you can´t grasp it so read and learn!
I have asked some simple questions... you cant answer so why are you bothering writing your bull**** here?
what this tread was for, were user experiences... what is working and what is not working... to save me time and others who want the same to read quickly through this thread what is possible and what not...
BUT it seems even this thread is becomming like every other one... everybody is writing some bull**** just for the sake of typing
IF someone comes here to write his/hers experience it maybe full of useless posts as 90% of this forum
Hard to find a solution even if searching hard...
pointless maybe for someone to answer because of all the pointless stuff alredy posted
I am asking about the best solution that is actually working without causing too many problems - There are multiple threads here with solutions
but
A not working with both
B user experiences are not good
C Could/Should be what I am looking for but no user experience posted because - forgotten about - thread title/tags not correct
FOR GODS SAKE:
if you have tried some of the stuff please post your experience
If and how it was working or if we should wait.
If you know any other way not mentioned (but I think I have covered all possible solutions please share it
When I have time next week or the week after that I will try it myself
ALL the others PLEASE GO AWAY
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First of all take a chill pill man.
Second there isn't available yet a swappable script for sd storage as there was with the s3 that I had.
Now since that answers your question.
Why not start a clean thread asking devs or others how to swap internal memory?
No you start by telling me that I am incapable of understanding what your talking about.
You start your thread with insults to our device and rant about issues that there are in plain view a system that can help.
You said there is no way to save apps to the sd but there is as I stated before.
Anyways forget it. good luck with your quest
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Remove the rant and useless talk and people won't give you their opinion.
Here is your answer to your "questions"
*Knox shouldn't be touched:
Answer: You cannot do any of what you asked without root - which triggers knox with the latest firmwares.
Bye.
Skander1998 said:
Remove the rant and useless talk and people won't give you their opinion.
Here is your answer to your "questions"
*Knox shouldn't be touched:
Answer: You cannot do any of what you asked without root - which triggers knox with the latest firmwares.
Bye.
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And on that note, thread closed before any more abuse gets thrown around.