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Guys, a quick app:
see here for the Palm Messaging App
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=280256
Once installed, you lose some access to the normal inbox, which you may still want.
Using VJSlippyPalm, you can assign the app to a hardware key.
Running VJSlippyPalm will then launch the Palm Messaging app.
However, pressing it again will close Messaging and instead switch to the normal Inbox. And vice versa.
If you have one of the apps already launched in the background, it will jump to that app (eg if Inbox is open, and you're on the Today screen, it will jump to Inbox)
By default it will close the other app.
You can launch it with a command line -min to minimise instead, for whatever reasons.
-about will show information about the app.
Download from my website.
V
PS: please note, this is not an app to uninstall the Palm Messaging App. It just switches between the different screens. Backup your system before installing Palm Messaging!
lol...well, that was fast!
Will give it a shot now...thanks.
Very nice, although I get a slow screen redraw between Messaging and Outlook E-Mail. Any ideas? On a i-mate JASJAM.
Okay this probably has something to do with Messaging closing, rather than minimising.
I understand creating a shortcut with "-min", but how to assign this shortcut to the Messaging hard key?
hmmm... i installed the palm messaging app and did the registry. i lost the sms/mms on inbox. is using this software will bring the sms/mms in the inbox or will this just switch between the two?
beatrix - it's nothing sophisticated, it just switches between the normal inbox and the palm app. It won't modify registry or fix anything that's already been broken
To assign the -min version to a hardware key, go into your start menu, find the existing shortcut to VJSlippyPalm, copy it, paste it, and then edit the copy. You want to amend the shortcut to just say
"....blah blah\vjslippypalm.exe" -min
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Rename the shortcut to VJSlippyPalm Min.lnk
And then launch that in the normal way from Settings > Buttons.
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Legend, thanks!
What is the difference between the Palm threaded app in that link above (that was removed) and the one here on freewareppc.com?
http://www.freewareppc.com/communication/smsthreader.shtml
trojan9x said:
What is the difference between the Palm threaded app in that link above (that was removed) and the one here on freewareppc.com?
http://www.freewareppc.com/communication/smsthreader.shtml
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That one is the triangle powers .Net app. It's not integrated nicely like the Palm version and was very buggy when I tried it and very slow to load.
cant install cab from site on phone
hey, i tried dling the cab from your site directly from my phone, but it just brought me to a webpage with a whole lot of source code and stuff.
Seems ok to me:
http://www.vijay555.com/vj/releases/vjslippypalm/vjslippypalm.cab
paste it in to your browser, should work.
V
hey, tried it again and it still didnt work. tried in pie and opera.
Weststar - I didn't know you were using your PDA to browse. I could attach it as an attachment, but I don't like doing that as I like to update the cabs on my website as I develop them - attaching it will cause a static link of course. Could you use your PC to download instead? Worst case I'll attach.
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well im at school right now, so i cant do it on my computer. but whatever works out for you is fine with me =)
do you /anybody know if the Palm's thread messaging implies all the SMS will go from the default inbox to the Palm's own database? i.e. if you open the default mail application, will it still be able to read all old sms.
to Zenkins:
I'm guessing you already have your answer by now, but to you or in case anyone else wonders, after install your SMS will NOT go to the old messaging database. I assure you this minor drawback is not worth passing the Palm threaded messaging app up though. It works beautifully! The lack of threading was my biggest and only serious complaint about my CHT-9000 (Hermes/TyTN/8525) since leaving my Treo 600. I use SPB backup to backup the databases daily in any case so for me at least, it's a non-issue.
Err, just realized I misread... I'm pretty sure the install killed my old SMS database. I'm not 100% certain I did have anything in it since I had just flashed the ROM and started fresh, but I'm pretty sure i did.
I don't understand. Which install killed your db?
VJSlippyPalm certainly shouldn't, it doesn't touch any databases, and AFAIK the Palm app shouldn't destroy it either, hence the use of VJSlippyPalm to switch between the two apps, which can co-exist well. However, I don't use the Palm app so can't say definitively.
V
thanks, I have figured that the old SMS will be lost. in anycase, I tried installing the palm messaging, it hung on me when I try to compose the message, or if it manage to compose and send, it goes straight into the sentbox, but the message doesn't get send out at all.
any idea?
Really no idea, as I said, I don't use it. Try googling for VJSlippyPalm and it'll take you to the another website that packaged up the Palm app. They've discussed bugs etc there.
V
Hi guys - not sure if i post this question here or at the Themes, Applications and Software. (feel free to move this if necessary).
Ok so here is my problem...I wanted to send a single sms to multiple recipients, the way to do that in HTC HD is to write a SMS and then select one recipient after another, this is just a major flaw if we have to send SMS to say 150 people.My old samsung showed me all my contatcs and all I had to do was place a tick infront of the names of the people i wanted to send to, thus making it so easy..
So i tried searching far and wide of a tweak or hotfix that adds the option to the standard HTC messaging. But soon after realising that i was fighting a losing battle, i decided to go for a 3rd party option. So i tried VITO SMS-CHAT 1.25..This was just awesome.(not trying to adverstise any software here), after using it for sometime i decided to tidy up by deleting all messages.
However, after deleting the messages i see that when i create a new sms, none of MY contacts shows up.i.E. sms-chat only shows those contacts that have sent messages to you and if you delete messages then sms-chat forgets about that contact.. Also,it does not show all the contacts from the contacts database from your phone..
Has someone come across this issue???
Also can anyone helpme by suggesting a way i can send a sms to multiple recipients using my default messaging on HD?
or alternatively, tell me how i can see all my contatcs in VITO SMS-CHAT 1.25.
Any sort of help will be treated as good help and thanks inadvance if you even botherd to read this so far.
greetings all!
i am a 2 years Tytn2 (HTC Kaiser) user. i just got a shiny new HD2 two days ago. after doing several weeks of reading and research, i knew what to expect. the essence of it was that the HD2 rocks, but the SMS lag issue and dodgy battery life can be crippling to the experience.
i am writing this as a guide for others like myself that have the following requirements/goals with their new HD2s:
1. want to migrate all the SMS messages from previous phone, using either PIMBackup or MS MyPhone.
2. are comfortable with disabling HTC Sense Messaging and reverting back to the native WM6.5 messaging (threaded or classic).
3. want to have an HD2 that plays well with PIMBackup and MS MyPhone so that further backups can be made on the HD2 in case a hard reset is needed, or to flash another ROM, or to migrate to still another Windows Phone.
with the above goals and my numerous different attempts and approaches, i also observed the following "bugs" in addition to the known lagging issues when more than a few SMS messages are present:
1. on a fresh HD2, the obvious approach of restoring with PIMBackup prevents Sense from correctly building its threads. the sorting of the final threads after restoring 6000 messages when viewed in HTC messaging was extremely jumbled up. opening a particular thread took ages (as expected) but it did open correctly and properly sorted. just the main thread list was wacky.
2. on a fresh HD2, MS MyPhone was able to restore in a manner friendly to HTC messaging. HTC messaging showed the main threads list correctly and each thread was well formed. the catch? it took ages! it took almost 8 hours for 6000 messages!
3. either way, NEW SMS messages after completing either of the above restore methods would create a different thread! on closer inspection, i noticed that contacts that were present in my phone ONLY were unaffected by this "bug". however, contacts that were present in BOTH my phone AND my SIM caused HTC messaging to create new threads for SMS messages arriving from such contacts. this means that my restored data was in another thread and the new data received on the new HD2 was in a new thread. WTF?!?
thus, my conclusion was that this is ****! not only does it lag, but it is also not friendly with PIMBackup or MyPhone. on top of it all, once you have your migrated data, newer messages are not added on to existing threads for contacts present in both the phone and the SIM.
what follows is my final idiot-proof tutorial for SMS bliss on the HD2 while maintaining migrated data as well as maintaining the ability to safely migrate it further to another Windows Phone device.
1. first, you have to be willing to sacrifice any new SMS messages on your HD2 that was captured and threaded by HTC messaging. see my note below for more details.
2. go here and get "Zenyee Disable HTC Messaging 1.2.CAB". this wonderful cab is already known to a lot of HD2 users apparently.
3. install the cab and let it soft reset.
4. after the auto soft reset, disable Sense on the home screen.
5. now disable windows mobile's native threaded SMS support by toggling from 0 to 1 the following registry:
Code:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Settings\OEM\SMSInboxThreadingDisabled
6. soft reset!
7. now keep your PIM backup handy from your previous device. in my case, this was taken on my Tytn2 where no horrible HTC messaging exists to mess up the data (see my note below)
8. fire up pimbackup and select the archive for restoration. remember to enable "delete all previous messages" (see my note below)
9. let pimbackup perform the restore! with the Sense home screen disabled and no HTC messaging service running thanks to the cab in step 2, you will notice the true speed of the snapdragon processor! my 6000 messages were restored in less than 10 minutes!
10. if you like windows mobile threaded SMS view, go ahead and undo the change made in step 5 and soft reset!
11. after the soft reset, you will again notice the speed of the snapdragon processor. the threads were built in less than 15 minutes!
12. now you can enable the Sense home screen and enjoy the SMS bliss!
catches! there are always catches! the cab mentioned above and my tutorial works perfectly fine on my stock ROM. however, when trying to open SMS messages from the messaging tab within Sense, the device will try to load HTC messaging but no thread will be visible. also, trying to send a message from the call history invoked from the dialer will also not work (because the call history is also part of Sense). similarly, tapping the notification area to reach a new SMS will also bring you to a blank list of threads within HTC messaging.
but the lock screen will take you to the native SMS view just fine! SMS alert tones work just fine! the "new SMS" icon on the notification area appears just fine (but reaching the SMS from the notification area is no longer possible)!
all in all, shame on HTC for showing so much promise with so little testing. it looks nice and professional but its nothing but fluff and eye candy when theres a lot of data. the native implementation by MS is much much better and efficient and almost equally usable because of the HD2's huge screen size.
NOTE: i have noticed that HTC messaging seems to use the SAME database as the native messaging. however, it seems to build its threads within a DIFFERENT "folder" in the native messaging database. this folder is called "Conversations" and will be visible once you activate the native view using the above tutorial. of course, pimbackup will have nuked the contents of this folder if you enabled the option as suggested in step 8. it MIGHT be possible to move messages out of this custom "Conversations" folder back into the native inbox folder. so the only opportunity to try to move the contents of the "Conversations" folder is before step 8. but i strongly suspect that this will confuse the native messaging's ability to build its threads after you migrate archived data on top of new data. i also suspect that creating a pimbackup file on such data will keep the conversations folder in the backup file, thus bloating the backup file. similarly, MyPhone MIGHT also upload the conversations folder redundantly. for me, i only had to sacrifice 1.5 days of new messages but i gained a lot more as described in the requirements earlier! so i recommend letting pimbackup nuke the contents of the folder...then you can nuke the folder itself after you complete my tutorial.
Hello All!
I've been having this problem for a few weeks now and im all out of ideas of what to do.
Carrier: T-Mobile
Wearable: S3 Rugged
Extra Service: DIGITS
Coming From: LGV20 which never had these issues with the same plans and accesories
So to start, when i got the phone inittially during setup of the google accounts i noticed that my OTP SMS Pushes were not being received, or auto filling the information. I skipped past all of that and noticed that anywhere that OTP text were suppose to autofill in different applications, it would not even when i received the text and got a notification.
So after a while of using TEXTRA which was working fine, one day i stopped receiving ALL text not just mms. I was able to send but never was I able to get anything from anyone. I ditched TEXTRA and went back to the stock Samsung app and noticed that all text were there, even though it was not default. After using the Samsung messages app i decided to go back to textra, heres whats funny. After Textra did it's initial setup, it only showed half of the recieved text from up to that day. Messages were incomplete, some just had one reply from a user and nothing else. So I also tried this with Android Messages and it had the EXACT same message log as textra. Both were not receiving the full logs from the server. Today Android Messaging was working for a good part of the day, then it just stopped all of sudden again.
Can someone help me with this, I've wiped the cache and factory reset the phone. Ive added and removed the multi-line settings in the samsung settings. I've tried the legacy settings on textra. I've called the DIGIT's customer service to see if they could fix it but they made and interesting point that it couldnt be digit because it wouldnt interfere with 3rd part messaging apps. When i switch apps i always make them default, i wipe the app cache etc.
I have a gut feeling this has something to do with something with the default Samsung Messages app and it somehow restricting use outside of it.
I just wanted to reply and say that I've been experiencing the exact same issue and haven't had any luck Google engineering my way around it. For me, I'm seeing the issue with Signal, so I don't believe it's the 3rd party app's problem. I can send messages (SMS/MMS), but the Samsung Messages app is the only one that "receives" them. A strange workaround I found was to download Android Messenger, set that as the default messaging app, then set Signal as the default messaging app again. This worked for a while, but I think the Samsung Messages app recently updated, and it broke this again until I repeated the above workaround.
It's annoying enough that, without a fix, I'll definitely be flashing a completely stripped ROM on this phone once we have the ability to do so to get away from all of the Samsung apps that I can't disable. And don't even get me started on Bixby...
wjm3982 said:
I just wanted to reply and say that I've been experiencing the exact same issue and haven't had any luck Google engineering my way around it. For me, I'm seeing the issue with Signal, so I don't believe it's the 3rd party app's problem. I can send messages (SMS/MMS), but the Samsung Messages app is the only one that "receives" them. A strange workaround I found was to download Android Messenger, set that as the default messaging app, then set Signal as the default messaging app again. This worked for a while, but I think the Samsung Messages app recently updated, and it broke this again until I repeated the above workaround.
It's annoying enough that, without a fix, I'll definitely be flashing a completely stripped ROM on this phone once we have the ability to do so to get away from all of the Samsung apps that I can't disable. And don't even get me started on Bixby...
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I haven't had any issues with my At&t model...Been using Yaata since day one (about 2 months).
Also, there are some "package disabling" apps in the play store that will allow you to disable any app you want, you don't even need to be rooted. It cost me $1.99 (or around there), but was well worth it! You can even completely disable Bixby, so the button is even non-responsive.
Having the same issue and I may have fixed it. I logged completely out of Digits on the phone (settings/cloud accounts/multi line/hit the ... menu and choose log out.
I have this same issue. No matter which 3rd party SMS app I use I have missing text messages on the T-Mobile S8. Has anyone fixed this? It is driving me crazy. T-Mobile replaced my S8 and the new one does it (not as bad but it does it more than I'd like). How can I resolve this? My friend haf the same issue, he has an unlocked T-Mobile working on AT&T.
I don't use Digits or anything like that... any ideas?
hi guys
all you need to do
go to setings
device maintence
battery
scrool all the way down to unmonitored apps and add your 3rd party sms app
youre welcome
This still didn't work for me and I am having the same exact issues. I have tried installing 2 different 3rd party messaging (Textra and Mood) and both were not working properly. I can send messages out just fine but when I receive them they are delayed (like 5 minutes or longer). Sometimes, I don't get the messages at all. Of course, the Samsung Messaging app (which I hate) works just fine. I have even "Force Stopped" it! What to do?
go into the stock messaging app, and turn off advanced messaging
Has anyone found a solution? I've been using textra for years & suddenly in March I started having this problem but with sent messages. All incoming texts are displayed but my sent texts aren't. I did try the 2 suggestions above. On a note 8, Android 8.0.0,Samsung experience 9.0.
SOLVED. I had the same issues and found the solution. Before you install your 3rd party sms/MMS you need to disable the default messenger. I uninstalled signal, disabled the built-in messenger, reinstalled signal. Now I can receive texts. Also my phone is not a Samsung.
My phone is an H910 running Oreo (stock; never rooted). I have used the stock Messaging app for SMS/MMS.
I am trying to backup all SMS/MMS and move to a different device so that I can delete them on my H910 to save space. There are about 1,200 messages to move. Ideally, I would like to be able to save all sent/received messages and open them in a messaging app on a different non-LG device. (I would like to open them via a messaging app installed to BlueStacks. My preference would be to save them to my email; I previously used SMS Backup+ with great success, but that has not worked for years now it seems, so I am not counting on a solution like that.)
The problem I am running into is that I cannot seem to save my sent messages. In other words, I can see all of my received messages when viewing them on the new device, but none of the messages I have sent.
I have tried switching to new messaging apps such as Google Messages and Textra on the H910. However, this only shows my received messages (no sent messages).
I have also tried using a backup/restore app such as SMS Backup & Restore, but my sent messages are not backed up that way, either. (I have used a number of different methods to view the file with the backed up messages. The only messages shown are received messages.)
Does anyone have any recommendation for how to solve this? Why can't I backup/save my sent messages?
dub5a said:
My phone is an H910 running Oreo (stock; never rooted). I have used the stock Messaging app for SMS/MMS.
I am trying to backup all SMS/MMS and move to a different device so that I can delete them on my H910 to save space. There are about 1,200 messages to move. Ideally, I would like to be able to save all sent/received messages and open them in a messaging app on a different non-LG device. (I would like to open them via a messaging app installed to BlueStacks. My preference would be to save them to my email; I previously used SMS Backup+ with great success, but that has not worked for years now it seems, so I am not counting on a solution like that.)
The problem I am running into is that I cannot seem to save my sent messages. In other words, I can see all of my received messages when viewing them on the new device, but none of the messages I have sent.
I have tried switching to new messaging apps such as Google Messages and Textra on the H910. However, this only shows my received messages (no sent messages).
I have also tried using a backup/restore app such as SMS Backup & Restore, but my sent messages are not backed up that way, either. (I have used a number of different methods to view the file with the backed up messages. The only messages shown are received messages.)
Does anyone have any recommendation for how to solve this? Why can't I backup/save my sent messages?
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SMS Backup & Restore works for me on Android 8 (US996).
A search came up with this:
https://community.t-mobile.com/accounts-services-4/not-able-to-backup-sent-text-messages-12778
where RCS messages are the problem, are you using RCS?
Parasol_Monsters said:
SMS Backup & Restore works for me on Android 8 (US996).
A search came up with this:
https://community.t-mobile.com/accounts-services-4/not-able-to-backup-sent-text-messages-12778
where RCS messages are the problem, are you using RCS?
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Thank you for your response.
Yes, that appears to be the problem. The H910 is AT&T-branded, and I am using it on AT&T. It automatically comes with "advanced messaging" (aka RCS) enabled. So, that is the problem... that is why SMS Backup & Restore will not work. (It looks like SMS Backup & Restore might work with RCS if I had been using Google Messages from the start. Unfortunately, that was not the case.)
I am now wondering if I can get another V20/other capable device with a better messaging app installed prior to the process and then use AT&T's Mobile Transfer to move everything over and back. I may pursue this.
If anyone has a better method of backing up SMS/MMS/RCS messages, please let me know. Otherwise, I guess the moral of the story is to always use a third-party messaging app that allows for backup of RCS or stores the messages via cloud/alternative means that you can actually access.
This might be a solution:
https://www.att.com/features/backup-sync/
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This might be a solution:
https://www.att.com/features/backup-sync/
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Thank you. I actually was attempting to use that last night. It seems that using this allows you to backup all messages (SMS/MMS/RCS) to AT&T's cloud, but you can then only access them via AT&T's messaging app. There does not appear to be a way to export them from that app to a different device. So, it is great if you just want to view the messages on a different device... but not so great if you actually want to move the messages from one device to another.