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I know that there are several threads about battery life in the General forum, but I decided to create a new one, cause I want this thread to take a different direction, and actually help the owners, which are having problems with kernel wakelocks as me.
So... here it goes. I decided to make a test by using my phone mainly as a PHONE ! From the screenshots you will be able top see exactly what I did with the phone for the last 60 hours. Just to mention that my phone ISN`T ROOTED. Wifi sleep policy set to ALWAYS ; auto brightness ; power saver on except 30 minutes when I wanted a brighter display at direct sunlight ; Auto Sync on BUT - almost everything set to sync off or manual, except weather, gmail (mail and contacts) and one more mail sync using the mail app. Used some internet, made some photos, listened to some music, checked mail after notifications, refreshed blinkfeed couple of times just to go through the smartphone headlines, checked battery usage and software update like 100 times lol - and there are the 2+h of screen on. I don`t use facebook, twitter etc.
And now comes the most important part and the reason I started this thread in the first place. I got like 4 hours of held awake time. In the screenshots provided you can see where these hours exactly came from. I`m absolutely sure that HTC One can manage to achieve like 3 full days of normal phone usage if it wasn`t for those sick wakelocks I`m getting (and I`m sure most of you are getting too). I know all of you have read that "7 hours screen on time" and saw the screens from some guys with 7+ hours screen on. If you pay close attention you will see that their devices worked for more than 10 hours and they got less than 10 minutes of Held Awake time. What I`m trying to figure out is how they achieved such thing.
One more thing I would like to point out if someone decides that 4 hours of held awake time are something normal for a 60h usage. Keep in mind that phone lost 1% per hour while I was asleep, which I don`t think is something normal, cause I read alot that people are loosing like 3-4% for 10 hours during the night (someone even mentioned 1%).
So basically please use this thread to discuss any wakelocks (mainly kernel related) you have and ways to get rid of them. There are alot of threads going on in xda about almost every single wakelock I`m experiencing, but I think the info is different for every phone out there. I tried almost every suggestion, but without any good result.
Here are some screenshots from Gsam Battery Monitor, BetterBatteryStats, and Battery in Setting.If you like to see a detailed info please use the dropbox link. I won`t discuss every single screenshot I made, but just want to point out two interesting things I noticed. Although facebook app is TOTALLY disabled in my phone, I still have it as a working process that is causing wakelock as you can see in screenshot 13 in dropbox folder. And also I have turned every single option in Maps to off, except first option (Google`s location service) in Settings>Location.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/k7reupon5dcy42p/a4VNWyJLGJ
P.S. I`ve heard that with 4.2.2 some things are fixed, or at least not causing so many wakelocks, but we`ll have to wait and see.
good post, i would like to know the same. I want to know some extra info:location and provider
godutch said:
good post, i would like to know the same. I want to know some extra info:location and provider
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Location : Bulgaria ; Provider : Mtel
to OP your result seems normal to me
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One more thing I would like to point out if someone decides that 4 hours of held awake time are something normal for a 60h usage. Keep in mind that phone lost 1% per hour while I was asleep, which I don`t think is something normal, cause I read alot that people are loosing like 3-4% for 10 hours during the night (someone even mentioned 1%).
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Mmm ... don`t think that`s something normal, I`m afraid
I would like to see other advanced users pay attension to this post. I
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there have been recent problems with maps and play store,
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there have been recent problems with maps and play store,
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Haven`t got any problems with play store tbh, but maps is a huge pain in the a**, as you can see in the shots provided. As I said... turned almost everything off and still can`t disable the wakelocks it is causing (as even I haven`t done anything)
man thats great.
I have seen that this phone gets good battery. Maybe it will be close to the old green screen and non smart phone battery life lol.
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Haven`t got any problems with play store tbh, but maps is a huge pain in the a**, as you can see in the shots provided. As I said... turned almost everything off and still can`t disable the wakelocks it is causing (as even I haven`t done anything)
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once you sign in to google now is when this all starts, the maps eat more battery than anything else, at least for me anyway.
I have been saying this pretty often, but that's because it works
Try greenify!
I have almost no wakelocks mainly thanks to this app
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I have been saying this pretty often, but that's because it works
Try greenify!
I have almost no wakelocks mainly thanks to this app
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disable auto sync on those apps you greenified ...thats all greenify does , (when u put it in deep sleep u cant sync or disable sync on thos apps, apps are auto killed and put to deep sleep) there will be no need to even install it then. there is nothing magical happening. just a another way to fool users.
I've been trying to nail down the maps wakelock which appears to be NetworklocationLocator. It's been driving me mad! I disabled everything in maps but no better. Then I found another setting and I've had a huge improvement since.
Try this:
Settings > Accounts and Sync > Google > Location Settings > Location Access. Now turn off Google's location Service.
This will give you loads more battery and use less data. The downside? The weather location doesn't show current location. I just fix the weather manually to my home town. That's all I need. If I'm passing through Slough on the train I don't need the weather forecast for it! Also in maps it doesn't give you an approx fix, instead just turn on GPS like you would anyway and get the fix.
i really don't see much,if anything, wrong here. You have 5 hours and 50 minutes of awake time, less 2 hours and 10 minutes where the screen was on and another 1 hour and 5 minutes that the phone was active. So in reality you only have about 2.5 hours of time out of 60 where the phone could have been in deep sleep but wasn't.
Out of that 2.5 hours, 1 hour was google talk/hangouts, which you can simply sign out of, and 20 minutes is htc weather updates. That's leaving you with just over an hour out of 60, or about 1.5%, which is excellent.
You could probably do even a bit better by greenifying facebook and maps.
The kernel wakelocks are normal, the phone needs to spend some time keeping the OS running and communicating with the cell towers, i bet everyone will see similar msm_hsic_host usage as long as they have the cell radio running.
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once you sign in to google now is when this all starts, the maps eat more battery than anything else, at least for me anyway.
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I keep mine logged into Google Now; I have the widget on my desktop. I have not seen any battery impact.
To OP:
I see that you are having 2 days of No Data Connection in BatteryStats, as shown below. Is it because you are connected to Wifi all the while instead of connected to the 3G mobile network? And your wifi has been turned on for more than a day. Basically, is 3G that kills battery. Perhaps you can try not to be connected to Wifi and see if the phone can last more than a day?
Thanks!
Every Android user should try Greenify:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.oasisfeng.greenify&hl=en
It's an amazing app! With great smoothness and battery life.:good:
u can go to settings ' apps , all disable google maps . u will then see google maps not running in the backgrounfd
use a 3rd paty app for navigation if u need it
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The kernel wakelocks are normal, the phone needs to spend some time keeping the OS running and communicating with the cell towers, i bet everyone will see similar msm_hsic_host usage as long as they have the cell radio running.
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I sometimes see hours of that wakelock during a day, even overnight almost 15 minutes
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I keep mine logged into Google Now; I have the widget on my desktop. I have not seen any battery impact.
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Turn Google Now off and see the improvement!
So, I'm rooted on VZW with no OTA and suddenly had abnormal battery drain today. Any idea why this may be happening?
Mine is kinda high today as well. I saw something about Google having issues today with email and other applications. This could be related, or phones can't connect to Google so it just keeps on trying.
Sounds nice but don't know if it's true or not.
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Install Greenify. Hibernate all the APPs that you don't want notification from first. This app doesn't allow APPs to Wakelock you're phone. Once you find which offending account is the issue you'll be ok. I found that Facebook woke up my phone thousands of times and I have up notifications. Best choice ever ?
This app requires root and free in the app store.
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Greenify can't touch system apps to my knowledge but yes, it is an excellent solution for rogue apps that take up resources when they shouldn't. :good:
As far as the google services battery drain, I eliminated that by simply turning off google location services. The actual GPS is so quick to lock that I haven't run into a scenario yet where I'd absolutely need to turn it back on.
My location services are off. Doesnt seem to help me much. I also bought donation greenify and greenfied Google Play services and Google Play Store
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With 15:34 for time on, and 1:45 of screen on time, I'm currently at exactly 50% battery. I feel it was something awry with Google Services yesterday and an isolated issue. Location services were off today, but I did nothing with Greenify, yet at least.
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Greenify can't touch system apps to my knowledge but yes, it is an excellent solution for rogue apps that take up resources when they shouldn't. :good:
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Donate version is able to greenify system apps.
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Yeah I had the same problem, yesterday. I was having Google services use ~60% of battery life. Surprisingly I still got all day battery life.
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Donate version is able to greenify system apps.
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Didn't know that but knowledge is good! :good:
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My location services are off. Doesnt seem to help me much. I also bought donation greenify and greenfied Google Play services and Google Play Store
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How is that working? Considering doing the same as I've already tried removing the sytem app and replacing with Play Services from the play store. That seemed to work for a few days but the nip wake locks are worse than ever right now. Killing the otherwise stellar battery.
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How is that working? Considering doing the same as I've already tried removing the sytem app and replacing with Play Services from the play store. That seemed to work for a few days but the nip wake locks are worse than ever right now. Killing the otherwise stellar battery.
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works great today..... google services error has gone away today and my battery life seems longer. :good:
I just froze google play services and will look at the battery stats later to report the difference. What apps are affected by freezing this though? It seems Hangouts is one.
I don't know why, but all my days are pretty much exactly the same location-wise and some days have huge wakelocks, others don't.
Aside from installing the play store services which seemed to help quite a bit, I've also noticed a nice drop in wakelocks since I went on to Google's Location History dashboard (https://maps.google.com/locationhistory/b/0/dashboard?hl=en) and deleted all my history so maybe it could re-create it.
One thing I've noticed is that on high-wakelock days, my GPS is going nutso. My point markers on that dashboard will have me moving ALL OVER the place, even while I'm just sitting at my desk at work.
This leads me to the conclusion that signal plays a huge role, and I do have bad signal at work (1 bar, and can't get a good GPS lock at my desk).
Also, you can minimize these wakelocks without the use of Greenify by simply turning off Location Reporting and Location Using WiFi and Mobile Networks. This dropped my wakelocks to pretty much 0, immediately. But you'll lose things like weather widget geolocation and some Google Now features. On the other hand, this is a more viable option than freezing services which can cause you to lose push notifications for GMail among other things.
I've been messing with this throughout the day today and the problem is high NIP wakelocks originating from Google Services...specifically the Network Location process. So the fix for me appears to be disabling newtork location while leaving GPS location enabled. This is usally the reverse of how I do things but for this phone, it may be the better solution. Google Now is still working for me, as is maps/navigation. There may be some casualties of disabling newtwork location but I haven't run across them yet. I've always viewed these two options as coarse (network) vs.fine (gps) location. So I'm hoping GPS picks up the slack and I don't lose any functionality. What I could see happening is that it just takes longer for location to be confirmed because network location is faster. I'll take that in lieu of battery drain however.
Still need to run like this for a couple days to see how things go but I was getting hundreds and even thousands of NIP wakelocks in a run cycle prior to disabling network location. I'm now getting zero.
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I've been messing with this throughout the day today and the problem is high NIP wakelocks originating from Google Services...specifically the Network Location process. So the fix for me appears to be disabling newtork location while leaving GPS location enabled. This is usally the reverse of how I do things but for this phone, it may be the better solution. Google Now is still working for me, as is maps/navigation. There may be some casualties of disabling newtwork location but I haven't run across them yet. I've always viewed these two options as coarse (network) vs.fine (gps) location. So I'm hoping GPS picks up the slack and I don't lose any functionality. What I could see happening is that it just takes longer for location to be confirmed because network location is faster. I'll take that in lieu of battery drain however.
Still need to run like this for a couple days to see how things go but I was getting hundreds and even thousands of NIP wakelocks in a run cycle prior to disabling network location. I'm now getting zero.
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I believe disabling network location will disable Google Now location cards, such as weather or places.
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I believe disabling network location will disable Google Now location cards, such as weather or places.
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You are correct, there's the first casualty confirmed. I'm going to run like this for a few days and see what gives. I don't use the cards anyway so no issue there. If anyone knows of other functionality loss, please speak up.
Like some of you have said, I don't rely on Google Now cards, and I don't leave the city I'm in, so for things like weather, I am find with the hourly syncing of my weather app. If I do need GPS/location services, it's not hard to toggle and battery life is incredible. I feel it was just something going rogue the other day. Today, with locaiton off, I've been off the charger for 15:34 with 1:24 screen on time and I'm at 58%. I spent a good portion of today in a sub-basement on airplane mode, with wifi active in the background though. Walking around campus, I used Songza via 4G due to some wifi weak spots. I can't be happier with this phone, as my GNex would have long since been dead, even on airplane mode.
EDIT: Holy ****, 15:34 sounded familiar, checked my post from yesterday, I responded then at the same time off the charger...
Okay so I may have fixed it on my phone.
I forced closed "Google Play Services" and "Google Devices Framework" then rebooted.
Google services was using it 50% of battery consistently through the day and now its down to using 2% of battery. I'll come back at the end of the day with battery stats.
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this night was a pain.... the phone was on 83 and when i wake it was on 76..... google services was draining all my battery, who could fix this?
Anyone having trouble with over normal battery drain from google play services? I haven't had any issues with this unntil now
I do not have google now on, location services is off, so what is it that drain so much?
Might be a stupid question, but anyways thanks for all answers!
Edit: the images is in norwegian.. Sorry about that!
Norside said:
Anyone having trouble with over normal battery drain from google play services? I haven't had any issues with this unntil now
I do not have google now on, location services is off, so what is it that drain so much?
Might be a stupid question, but anyways thanks for all answers!
Edit: the images is in norwegian.. Sorry about that!
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try these settings.
Settings -> Location access -> Off
Google Settings ->Location -> Location Reporting Off, Location History Off
with those settings, i can have google now On, and still not battery drain.
I have google now and location settings on. I don't have battery drain. I average 22 hours with 6 hours screen on time.
Sorry, Gsam says my average is about 18 1/2 hours. Play services uses 0.1%
nlpwakecollector under google services is wake locking my device like crazy. Trying different settings to see if I can reduce the wakelocks
If you are rooted, uninstall play services and reinstall it from the play store.
Im going to try that last thing cash. . So thanks for that
Anyways, have 17% left and only used the phone for 11 hours and 3.45min screen on time, not that
Good...
And im not rooted yet, has not felt the need for it like with my old galaxy s2..
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If you are rooted, uninstall play services and reinstall it from the play store.
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Tried that, didnt help. Still getting decent battery life so I am not that upset
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nlpwakecollector under google services is wake locking my device like crazy. Trying different settings to see if I can reduce the wakelocks
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Location.
1. Disable location reporting from both Google Settings and the Settings menu of the phone.
2. Clear data of the Google Play Services app.
3. Reboot.
Let us know if it helps.
On another hand, on Android Police there is an article about how Play Services drained the batteries of numerous people across the world. So it might be something temporary over on Google's side.
Norside said:
Anyone having trouble with over normal battery drain from google play services? I haven't had any issues with this unntil now
I do not have google now on, location services is off, so what is it that drain so much?
Might be a stupid question, but anyways thanks for all answers!
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Before blaming Location services, people should do some googling. On 11/19, there's been reports that Google Play Services is causing a good number of people to have battery issues. It seems to be an issue on Google's side.
Wait a day or two before making any changes.
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Location.
1. Disable location reporting from both Google Settings and the Settings menu of the phone.
2. Clear data of the Google Play Services app.
3. Reboot.
Let us know if it helps.
Nope above instructions do not work. Just tried them May be we just need to wait for the next update to google play services
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Sucks that its happening, but glad to see that other people are experiencing the same issue with Google Play Services that we have seen the last couple of days. Its not horrible, but it is draining the battery an extra 10-15% during the work day so i get home with 70% instead of 85%
Hopefully google fixes it or someone figures out the actual cause !
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/1...lay-services-seems-to-be-a-battery-hog-today/
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Before blaming Location services, people should do some googling. On 11/19, there's been reports that Google Play Services is causing a good number of people to have battery issues. It seems to be an issue on Google's side.
Wait a day or two before making any changes.
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You are right. Today I do not have a battery drain like how it was draining yesterday Only thing that I did yesterday was to uninstall Goolge Play Services and reinstalled it from play store. After full nite's recharge it is doing really good on battery like always. Today I'm still left with 77% of battery after 11 hours on battery. So in fact my battery is better than ever.
I hate to bump an old thread, but I am having this issue as well. My phones been on for 11.5 hours and Google play services has kept it awake for 10.5. I thought it was from listening to music, but I didn't listen at all today and still the same.
One thing I do notice is it keeps popping up saying keeping requested music in the notification bar even though I haven't selected any new songs in a couple days and they are all downloaded already.
I'm not rooted yet
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can somebody explain to me what google services do?, ca it be turned off? what is its importance? all this queations because it drains battery a lot, about 30%, I had a S3, and google servs took 11% more or less, why such difference? thanks in advance
winol said:
can somebody explain to me what google services do?, ca it be turned off? what is its importance? all this queations because it drains battery a lot, about 30%, I had a S3, and google servs took 11% more or less, why such difference? thanks in advance
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I think among other things it does the "location" and Google Now stuff - some of the recent builds have been quite bad and a lot of people had problems. Since I don't use Google Now (for the moment is useless in my country) and I rarely update I keep the services greenified and Play Store and Maps frozen - problem solved
winol said:
can somebody explain to me what google services do?, ca it be turned off? what is its importance? all this queations because it drains battery a lot, about 30%, I had a S3, and google servs took 11% more or less, why such difference? thanks in advance
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I think google services do the following things
Syncronising contacts to Goggle+
Syncronising Gmail for Gmail app.
'Would think google MAPS wont work either, just a hunch?'
Controls services inside Google Play/App store. Without it, google play wont work.
I've tried disableing it. Everything seems ok, except the above features are kinda disabled.
I have a hunch that google services and android system ui, works together.
Do you have network location services checked? I unchecked that and google services doesn't show up on my battery usage list anymore. And i now have about 20% more battery everyday. My phone seems to be locating me ok without that checked ie maps and nike running app. Its under settings/connections/location services/uncheck 'use wireless networks'. I hope that helps.
All of a sudden, my battery life went from awesome to crap like it does from time to time after something gets updated. At first the culprit was Google Play Services so I started hacking away services and receivers using 3C Toolbox which made the problem worse. So I backed up all my user apps that I use, wiped, and re-installed PA 6/20 build with the latest pico GApps. Google Play services had a good wakelock on the system so I disabled the SystemUpdateActiveReceiver and SystemUpdateSecretReceiver with AutoRunManager (SystemUpdateReceiver was already disabled). That solved the Google Play services wakelock but now I am left with Android OS crushing my battery, but no listed wake locks. CPU Spy reports a few seconds of deep sleep, if any. Here is some info from Battery and WLD. These were taken after I charged 100% before bed, and had most of my user apps frozen with Root App Delete, wifi, data, and location off.
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All of a sudden, my battery life went from awesome to crap like it does from time to time after something gets updated. At first the culprit was Google Play Services so I started hacking away services and receivers using 3C Toolbox which made the problem worse. So I backed up all my user apps that I use, wiped, and re-installed PA 6/20 build with the latest pico GApps. Google Play services had a good wakelock on the system so I disabled the SystemUpdateActiveReceiver and SystemUpdateSecretReceiver with AutoRunManager (SystemUpdateReceiver was already disabled). That solved the Google Play services wakelock but now I am left with Android OS crushing my battery, but no listed wake locks. CPU Spy reports a few seconds of deep sleep, if any. Here is some info from Battery and WLD. These were taken after I charged 100% before bed, and had most of my user apps frozen with Root App Delete, wifi, data, and location off.
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Just bought a G2 today, and have been using it for some hours but i have the same problem as you.. will have to look for a solution, or maybe try a return..
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Just bought a G2 today, and have been using it for some hours but i have the same problem as you.. will have to look for a solution, or maybe try a return..
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See or it's maybe related to google play services, click on it and see if there are maybe any related things. If you are going to return your phone for this reason then I don't get you cause this is just a awesome phone. Try to maybe do a factory reset if nothing works.
Ev0luti0n_ said:
Just bought a G2 today, and have been using it for some hours but i have the same problem as you.. will have to look for a solution, or maybe try a return..
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My phone still says it's awake all the time and Google play services is using the Lions share of my battery, however I am getting about 2 days out of my battery like I used to before this problem. It's annoying, but I don't think it's that bad. You can try disabling those 2 receivers with auto run manager like I did but if your battery is even worse after that I would just re-enable them and leave it.
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See or it's maybe related to google play services, click on it and see if there are maybe any related things. If you are going to return your phone for this reason then I don't get you cause this is just a awesome phone. Try to maybe do a factory reset if nothing works.
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The phone was bought off as the last one on the store. Worten, in Portugal. So it was a demo phone. I have no idea, for how long the phone was plugged in to the charger, being demo'ed. I am afraid the batttery has lost some of it's power. Nonetheless, i will use it for a few days and then return it for warranty if i don't think it's in prime condition...
Also, i had an HTC HD2 with custom rom, then moved to a Galaxy S2 with a custom rom as well (AOSP 4.4.2 with Cyanogen) and now i am using the stock LG rom. I can't say exactly that it sucks, but for sure i prefer the stock AOSP experience with the right tweeks.
Well, a patently I got 6:55, and 33 hours of phone usage on my first experience with the car phone. I used 3g, wife, and web browsing. I don't know if it's good, but I highly doubt it...