Does this bode well for development on the note3 S800 version?
If they have unlocked bootloaders ... If you can't unlock bootloaders on the Note 3 it will be very hard for any development. ..
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Well supposedly T-Mobile and sprint versions will be unlocked as usual. And perhaps there might be Dev versions. I will probably be getting T-Mobile version 1st day. Hopefully Devs can fix the tabbed settings. It is awful like it is on the gs4.
With knox on the phone its a very good chance the bootloader will be locked on sprint and tmobile ..... its one of the reasons I may get this phone and quickly get a nexus 5
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hmmm... ya the S4 knox update for sprint did lock that bootloader and Tmobile's hasn't come out yet as far as I know.
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Is there a reason Verizon did not get its own forum for the S3 like the other carriers did?
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I don't know.... kinda weird.
Guessing it's because the Verizon S3 hasn't been released yet while the others have
Rogers don't have one either .. but everyone saying Rogers and Telus have the same version as Att..
So I'm guessing VZW and Sprint will be the same
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It's still currently being discussed and we should know something in the next two days of how it's going to all play out.
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And that is the Knox or what ever it is called, or Verizon doing what they did to the S4. I read that it was an update that made it very hard to unlock and root. I love flashing ROMs and what not. Don't know if I should get the Note 3. I have the Note 2, but will be giving it to my mom if I get the note 3.
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And that is the Knox or what ever it is called, or Verizon doing what they did to the S4. I read that it was an update that made it very hard to unlock and root. I love flashing ROMs and what not. Don't know if I should get the Note 3. I have the Note 2, but will be giving it to my mom if I get the note 3.
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It is a big possibility, we'll just have to wait and see once it's available to the masses. As for reasons to not upgrade, check out this post discussing that same subject:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2447512
Qualcomm vs Exynos... We have all seen exynos is easier to unlock (note 2)...
But will the VZW GN3 get unlocked?...
Will you wait for the Developer Edition?
Please share your thoughts below.
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bajasur said:
Qualcomm vs Exynos... We have all seen exynos is easier to unlock (note 2)...
But will the VZW GN3 get unlocked?...
Will you wait for the Developer Edition?
Please share your thoughts below.
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How does one go about acquiring a developer edition?
Look at the Verizon SGS4, I would say no.
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How does one go about acquiring a developer edition?
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They have been dropping dev editions for the latest devices and I'm sure they will announce the dev edition note 3 a few weeks after the initial release. Check the forums and android news websites in the coming months
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I would very much like someone with more knowledge than most of us combined to chime in on this topic.
Why is it an impossibility to somehow use the dev edition to assist in the unlocking of the retail edition?
The answer must be simple Or it would have been done long ago with the S4
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We don't have any idea if there will be a Dev edition.
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We don't have any idea if there will be a Dev edition.
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We don't have any idea if there will be a Dev edition.
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Exactly.
My personal guess would be there is no dev edition released, but I am only guessing like everyone else here.....
Im guessing there will be a dev edition ther is for the s4 why not the note 3. What has me curious is a read a thread about chip bending or binary bending which changes a chip into dev mode basically. Im only read the thread and have ben wondering this since. Plausable? What is the physical difference between dev and regular note 3
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I'd be pretty confident that there will be a developer edition. My question is: will there be anything developed for it, since the main phone will most likely remain locked or, at best, be only partially unlocked? I think it's gonna be developer phones or bust for these Verizon Samsungs from now on. We should start dedicated developer phone threads.
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Here's hoping they release one. I want a Note 3, but I'm at the point where I simply won't buy a phone with a locked bootloader.
Any confirmed benefits of the retail VZW GN3 vs. the Dev Edition for VZW?
Phandroid reports the developer edition website is up and says "coming soon".
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Well, here's the page. Doesn't really confirm anything, but it gives us something to drool over...
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Well, here's the page. Doesn't really confirm anything, but it gives us something to drool over...
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It also says 32gb! This seems to be the norm for Verizon developer galaxy phones.
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Only AT&T and Verizon have locked bootloader. So there's already a number of rom option. I couldn't wait and already have a n3 so I hope to hear a release schedule before I have to return this bad boy.
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I am not seeing a lot of support for the USA Verizon Wireless Note 3. I realize it is relatively new, but I can't help wonder if the VZW is too tightly locked that it can't be rooted,etc., or if nobody has updated their root instructions yet.
Check out the Verizon note 3 forums. People have root while keeping warranty prefect.
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Are us At&t custom ROM users going to have to move on to greener pastures with this Knox bs or will someone unlock the s4, note 3, and s5 (when it comes out) bootloaders at some point? Just curious if anyone has any insight on this, cause if we can't unlock it I'm definitely moving on to another carrier, personally. Or at least I'll buy international unlocked or Google editions in the future. Thanks and f at&t and Knox!
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Are us At&t custom ROM users going to have to move on to greener pastures with this Knox bs or will someone unlock the s4, note 3, and s5 (when it comes out) bootloaders at some point? Just curious if anyone has any insight on this, cause if we can't unlock it I'm definitely moving on to another carrier, personally. Or at least I'll buy international unlocked or Google editions in the future. Thanks and f at&t and Knox!
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Bootloader being locked has nothing to do with KNOX. And AT&T has already released an official statement a while back that said they plan on locking ALL carrier branded phones in the future.
I understand that they are locked. Now can you actually answer my question on whether or not someone will figure out how to unlock it?
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How would someone know that? There have been Bounty threads out for awhile and no luck. If they are still active you can follow them--
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I understand that they are locked. Now can you actually answer my question on whether or not someone will figure out how to unlock it?
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They lock them to keep people from hard bricking their devices. If it stinks...buy a Nexus or GPE device
I think we have to wait a while till the s4 becomes old news. Then att will care less about it and there will be less updates and more time for someone to find a crack or leak for the bootloader unlock and the carriers will care less
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I think I'll just be done with at&t then probably. It's too bad that companies won't allow you to do whatever you want with YOUR phone. That's why I never got an iPhone! I actually don't mind running stock TW but I don't want to be stuck with it forever. Thanks everyone!
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I think I'll just be done with at&t then probably. It's too bad that companies won't allow you to do whatever you want with YOUR phone. That's why I never got an iPhone! I actually don't mind running stock TW but I don't want to be stuck with it forever. Thanks everyone!
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Sad part is until it's paid off it not really your phone. Since they have a warranty for a year to cover issues it only makes sense. Now if they would provide an unlock after that warranty is up and the contract is settled then it would make sense.
Att will never have a unlocked device again, watch and see.....
And these are the reasons I'm going to be moving over to T-Mobile or nexus devices. Just tired of AT&T all together.
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Another view:
I will stay with ATT as Verizon is too expensive and TMO in my area has sh**ty reception. ATT has been perfect for me in that area.
Also, I have been a heavy flasher for almost 4 years. The phones now are powerful enough that flashing roms is not that important to me as it once was. If I can get root with Xposed/Gravity Box/3Minit I am good. Plus there are fairly good backup apps now that Nandroiding isn't that critical.
I don't see much more coming my way, after this year, in improvements I am interested in. Something like a Note4 or S5 would be as far as I care to go.
All IMHO of course
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I thought that I read somewhere on a T-Mobile thread that the latest update locked the bootloader on the S4. Was that incorrect?
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I thought that I read somewhere on a T-Mobile thread that the latest update locked the bootloader on the S4. Was that incorrect?
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I'd go to the note 3 if I swapped to T-Mobile. I'm honestly tired of the s4 and the features don't wow me anymore plus the note 3 would be better in spec wise as well.
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I thought that I read somewhere on a T-Mobile thread that the latest update locked the bootloader on the S4. Was that incorrect?
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The i337 bl was always locked but the loki-doki exploit bypassed sig check and allowed us to flash recoveries and kernels. With mf3 they closed that loophole by "blowing the Q-Fuse", whatever that is. Googled it but forgot what I read.
And now you are limited to flashing mostly TW roms <4.4. No custom recoveries/kernels.
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The i337 bl was always locked but the loki-doki exploit bypassed sig check and allowed us to flash recoveries and kernels. With mf3 they closed that loophole by "blowing the Q-Fuse", whatever that is. Googled it but forgot what I read.
And now you are limited to flashing mostly TW roms <4.4. No custom recoveries/kernels.
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I'm not talking about a I337 from AT&T. I was talking about a T-Mobile M919 or do they use the exact same firmware?
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I'm not talking about a I337 from AT&T. I was talking about a T-Mobile M919 or do they use the exact same firmware?
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lol ok, in that case i have no idea