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I am concerned after the Government sold new 4G bands to Telstra, Optus and TPG.
The new bands are in the 700Mhz 4G bands, similar to Americas 4G networks. IMO a stupid move because hardly any phone manufacturers target this band when creating global devices. Why is Australia trying to follow the US so much?
This will significantly reduce the 4G devices that we will be able to buy going forward, and in a lot of cases will not even be available. Obviously the Telcos are excited by this, because you are more likely to be forced into buying their phones.
The roll out is planned over the next two years
this put a damper on my morning!
decentgi said:
this put a damper on my morning!
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Sorry, I think that I wasn't clear, but I am sure that the existing networks will still be supported. So our Xperia Z should still work, but you can be sure that the this 4G network will be the new development and the network they will put the most work into (Similar to Telstra's nextG)
Not bothered by this, the 4G coverage is still too 5hit IMO...
Got coverage in south eastern side of Melbourne, chadstone, mount Waverly, burwood, Doncaster
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danw_oz said:
I am concerned after the Government sold new 4G bands to Telstra, Optus and TPG.
The new bands are in the 700Mhz 4G bands, similar to Americas 4G networks. IMO a stupid move because hardly any phone manufacturers target this band when creating global devices. Why is Australia trying to follow the US so much?
This will significantly reduce the 4G devices that we will be able to buy going forward, and in a lot of cases will not even be available. Obviously the Telcos are excited by this, because you are more likely to be forced into buying their phones.
The roll out is planned over the next two years
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Worldwide companies are working with the 700Mhz band. Vodafone international has been testing the 700Mhz band in New Zealand, Australia, U.K and parts of Europe for the past year due to it's higher stability, and far better range than current bandwidths. Phone manufacturers are also aware of this, but it's still a long way from being put into commercial use, mainly due to the bandwidth still being tied up with other services (UHF Television for example).
cheetah2k said:
Not bothered by this, the 4G coverage is still too 5hit IMO...
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Yep your not wrong
Bl1tZ7 said:
Worldwide companies are working with the 700Mhz band. Vodafone international has been testing the 700Mhz band in New Zealand, Australia, U.K and parts of Europe for the past year due to it's higher stability, and far better range than current bandwidths. Phone manufacturers are also aware of this, but it's still a long way from being put into commercial use, mainly due to the bandwidth still being tied up with other services (UHF Television for example).
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I am not sure that you are correct, because Vodafone have not purchased any 700MHz bands for 4G in Australia. These are new bands that have just been opened up, so any commercial testing on these bands can only start now and not for Vodafone. Analogue TV is being switched off here very soon, and all of Australia by the end of the year.
Vodafone is huge in New Zealand but in Australia they are CRAP, and they are typically known as vodafail, they are only enabling the 4G in June, the band they are using in Australia is 1800MHz with a 20MHz width.
Yes, and New Zealand has commonly been unusual for mobile support look at the telecom cdma network that was introduced, and the lack of devices to support it when it was released.
Qualcomm already has all LTE bands support in it's latest chipset, but obviously that is not included in most phones today.
danw_oz said:
I am not sure that you are correct, because Vodafone have not purchased any 700MHz bands for 4G in Australia. These are new bands that have just been opened up, so any commercial testing on these bands can only start now and not for Vodafone. Analogue TV is being switched off here very soon, and all of Australia by the end of the year.
Vodafone is huge in New Zealand but in Australia they are CRAP, and they are typically known as vodafail, they are only enabling the 4G in June, the band they are using in Australia is 1800MHz with a 20MHz width.
Yes, and New Zealand has commonly been unusual for mobile support look at the telecom cdma network that was introduced, and the lack of devices to support it when it was released.
Qualcomm already has all LTE bands support in it's latest chipset, but obviously that is not included in most phones today.
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The Sale of Bandwidths is so a provider can use them towards commercial use, Telstra for example began LTE testing as early as 2010. Companies do not need to purchase a frequency before they can begin testing on it. For Example, Vodafone New Zealand launched LTE just this March, after purchasing the 1800Mhz frequency in February, but have been testing the frequency since 2011.
And I agree, Vodafone in Australia is rubbish
Don't get me started on Telecom, they're the reason NZ is still so far behind the rest of the developed world in terms of Telecommunications.
Im finding out that having an unlocked android phone is better than having a branded one that you are stuck with which is why I plan on getting a Factory unlocked Note 3, but, I have some issues that I cannot seem to figure out. To me, factory unlocked on a device means unlocked for use with any carrier AND no carrier branding on or in the device, which is exactly the kind of Note 3 im looking for, but having a hard time finding it. Dose anyone know what model note 3 is truly factory unlocked, no carrier branding??
1. SM-N9000 3G = International/Made for Travelers: This is the international model. This one has a dual quad core processor running at 1.9 GHz Cortex/1.3 GHz A7. The reason for the processor being change is because this phone is meant to work everywhere their is a GSM signal and kicks threw the different processors to maximize signal strength. The N9000 CAN NOT to 4G speeds of any kind. This is due to most country not having 4G signal and that a lot of county's run on different cell frequencies. By removing the 4G radios this phone can pick up way more cell frequencies then the other models. This phone is not made for people looking for Data speed this is made for travelers whom want a reliable way to have cell service no matter where they are. Don't despair about the data or processing speed this phone still has Wi-Fi connection available and can breeze though 3D games; you shouldn't even notice a speed difference when doing tasks.
2. SM-N9005 4G LTE = European Model/International: This model contains the regular 2.3 GHz Snapdragon Processor. This phone unless unlocked is Region locked to only European SIM cards, after unlocked their is no region lock. Although this phone is an LTE phone it can only get LTE frequencies while in Europe. When you take this phone out of Europe it will get international signals but will not get LTE, when this phone is in the USA is will get H+ (Reference above) signal maximum.
3. SM-N9002 3G = China Model/Select Counties: This model is not LTE or 4G compatible. This was the First generation of the Note 3 released and is considered the Beta. With all the same hardware as the LTE version this phone will still preform flawless tasks.
4. SM-N900W8 4G LTE = China Model/Select Counties: This model will only get LTE in select counties and I advise you check with your service provider to see what signal you will be getting. This model is completely subjective as to what frequencies of LTE you will be about to get. Example: Imagine you are in Europe and you are in a city and get LTE. Then you move to another city and you lose LTE this is because the first city runs on an LTE frequency the the phone can get but the second city although may offer LTE to most cell phone; does not offer LTE on a frequency this phone can't run on.
5. SM-N900A 4G LTE = USA AT&T/Worldwide: This phone is International but you need to consult AT&T to see if you city or county can get LTE service or not. This phone once unlocked will work on Straight Talk, Solavei, T-Mobile, and any other GSM based network. Note: When using T-Moble, Solavei, or other services that piggy-back on the T-Mobile towers you can get LTE service but depending on your area you may not get 3G. If you live in a 3G area consult your carrier to see is the frequencies for 3G match up with this phone. (This review for the AT&T model can change at anytime due to AT&T's bootloader)
6. SM-N900T 4G LTE = USA T-Mobile: This phone when unlocked can get all USA frequencies. Example: You will have no problems using a AT&T SIM card with this phone and even get 4G LTE threw any service whom provides is. The N900T model is the most versatile model out of them all and if you plan on getting one I recommend going to a T-Mobile store and purchasing this model outright. Unlocking this phone is easily done threw calling T-Mobile and even using YouTube for an unlocking video.
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6. SM-N900T 4G LTE = USA T-Mobile: This phone when unlocked can get all USA frequencies ...
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Just to clarify - N900T can NOT get LTE from Sprint or Verizon.
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SM-N900W8 4G LTE = China Model/Select Counties
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W8 is mostly used by some major Canadian companies and Telcel in Mexico.
First of all there are more models: Sprint and Verizon come to mind just for US market. Second of all, as far as I know all US models are carrier locked, some are easier to unlock than others but still. Third of all, my t-mobile phone had 18 entries under region lock, so I think it had been region locked at least in some places, easy to fix with region unlock, never the less not really factory unlocked. Only few markets get phones without region lock (China is one of them), but the biggest issue IMO is frequencies. It doesn't matter if your phone is locked or not, if you don't match all frequencies for all the places you'll be using it, it will fail sometimes and since no model has all frequencies, you have to go case by case, there is no best phone for all. For example above mentioned t-mo will not work on Verizon or Sprint at all, where Verizon and Sprint phones will work, at least on some T-mo towers.
Best version for AT&T?
Would then the "best" (allow custom ROMS) version for AT&T be SM-N900A ?
I've decided to jump fully over to Android and would like to get a Note 3.
Really trying not to ask a question that has already been asked, however, I'm having a hard time figuring out which version to purchase.
Thanks!
Hello there!
I reside in the UAE and recently bought a Note 3 4G LTE SM-9005 (Snapdragon Variant).
I will be moving to Chicago, USA and wanted to know if I will be able to use the 4G. I see that T-Mobile supports 2100MHz, 1900MHz, 1700MHz and 850MHz. The international Note 3, the one which I have supports 800MHz, 850MHz, 900MHz, 1800MHz, 2100MHz and 2600MHz. Seeing that I support one band, will 4G work on T-Mobile? Also, will 3G work? And if so, will the dual 3G work where I get 2 streams of 21MBPS?
If not on T-Mobile, will any other carriers work?
Thanks in advanced, Zain.
PS. I have read other forms but seem to get two answers, some say it will work and some say it won't. Just wanted some clarification.
zainmobhani said:
Hello there!
I reside in the UAE and recently bought a Note 3 4G LTE SM-9005 (Snapdragon Variant).
I will be moving to Chicago, USA and wanted to know if I will be able to use the 4G. I see that T-Mobile supports 2100MHz, 1900MHz, 1700MHz and 850MHz. The international Note 3, the one which I have supports 800MHz, 850MHz, 900MHz, 1800MHz, 2100MHz and 2600MHz. Seeing that I support one band, will 4G work on T-Mobile? Also, will 3G work? And if so, will the dual 3G work where I get 2 streams of 21MBPS?
If not on T-Mobile, will any other carriers work?
Thanks in advanced, Zain.
PS. I have read other forms but seem to get two answers, some say it will work and some say it won't. Just wanted some clarification.
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I use my SM-N900W8 in Hong Kong and it is nearly, if not exactly alike as the SM-N900T. I can say that even in HK I get 4 - 5 bars of LTE, and worst case scenario I get 3 bars of 3G/H+
I also used an N9105 - Note II LTE, with the exact same bands as the SM-N9005 (the one you have), but the problem was that I couldn't get enough bars as my N900W8 did. The phone got really hot when it searched for reception (as it was usually at 2-3 bars), whilst at the same spot, I would get 4-5 on my N900W8. So to answer your question, yes, they should work, except your reception would be lower than an American banded phone.
zainmobhani said:
Hello there!
I reside in the UAE and recently bought a Note 3 4G LTE SM-9005 (Snapdragon Variant).
I will be moving to Chicago, USA and wanted to know if I will be able to use the 4G. I see that T-Mobile supports 2100MHz, 1900MHz, 1700MHz and 850MHz. The international Note 3, the one which I have supports 800MHz, 850MHz, 900MHz, 1800MHz, 2100MHz and 2600MHz. Seeing that I support one band, will 4G work on T-Mobile? Also, will 3G work? And if so, will the dual 3G work where I get 2 streams of 21MBPS?
If not on T-Mobile, will any other carriers work?
Thanks in advanced, Zain.
PS. I have read other forms but seem to get two answers, some say it will work and some say it won't. Just wanted some clarification.
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Snapdragon is not the International version, your title is confusing. International version is Exynos and has no US LTE.
Neo3D said:
Snapdragon is not the International version, your title is confusing. International version is Exynos and has no US LTE.
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Actually, international is N9005, Snapdragon.
The Exynos edition is only being sold in select areas. Most people here use Snapdragon as it is easier to get, but most N900s are found in India. Hong Kong would only sell international phones, unlocked, and they are all N9005.
Regardless. If you have the 9005, you have the Snapdragon, and it should come with LTE, but may not contain the right bands for the US as Neo said above.
zainmobhani said:
Hello there!
I reside in the UAE and recently bought a Note 3 4G LTE SM-9005 (Snapdragon Variant).
I will be moving to Chicago, USA and wanted to know if I will be able to use the 4G. I see that T-Mobile supports 2100MHz, 1900MHz, 1700MHz and 850MHz. The international Note 3, the one which I have supports 800MHz, 850MHz, 900MHz, 1800MHz, 2100MHz and 2600MHz.
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Region doesn't matter in fact I got my device from France, but had Hong Kong firmware on it. Later to get KitKat I flashed Poland firmware.
as for the bands T mobile mainly uses 1700MHz so you won't get LTE doesn't matter if you change the APN, I tried. You will get HSPA+ which isn't horrible, its enough to watch HQ YouTube videos.
idk about ATT though when I looked it up I remembered it being able to, but now that I look at doesn't look like it can...
Hi,
It seems i have to buy the phone in Hong Kong to use the TDD LTE network from China mobile.
Does anybody know, what version of the S7 edge is sold in Hong Kong, is it Snapdragon or Exynos?
How can i check the difference before i buy the phone? Do They have different version numbers marked on the packaging?
Thanks!
Does anybody know, what version of the S7 edge is sold in Hong Kong, is it Snapdragon or Exynos? Snapdragon 820 (G9350)
How can i check the difference before i buy the phone? Just check the packaging
Do They have different version numbers marked on the packaging? Just G9350
Last year when I was still living in HK (and traveling between the US & Bangkok) I had the option to get the S6 Edge in any of the 3 locations. I chose the G9250 version simply for the wider LTE band coverage. It was a mistake. True that I could use it anywhere I traveled to, I failed to realize that in each place, with a local SIM, you'll have to be subscribed/registered (or whatever you call it) to LTE, otherwise you'll be connected to at most HSPA+ - rendering all those LTE bands a moot point. What I was deprived of, as a result, was the lack of development support. I was so itching to root the phone and ticker the hell out of it but decided just to leave it as stock - even until now.
1 year latter, along came the S7 and the exact same choice. This time it was easy and there was absolutely no doubt, I went with the international Exynos version - 935FD (silver) and never looked back. And yes, I rooted, TWRPed, Xposed, but still on stock ROM. I am having fun with my phone again
Do yourself a big favor and pass on the HK/Chinese 820 SD version - especially if you want root and beyond.
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Do yourself a big favor and pass on the HK/Chinese 820 SD version - especially if you want root and beyond.
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Yea, that why i asked the question, i will only buy the phone if i am able to root it.
My main problem is that i mostly stay in China and China mobile has TDD LTE, i don't know if the international version of the S7 edge can use LTE.
Does anyone know if the international version works with china mobile?
I don't think even the SD820 935F version can be rooted yet, you'll probably have to wait even longer for the 9350.
So now you have a dilemma: Get the rootable 935F/FD and not be compatible with China Mobile's LTE TDD bands 38, 39, 40, 41 - OR - Get the 9350 and not being able to root.
Remember that you can easily switch to "China Telecom or China Unicom" both of which uses LTE bands 1,3,5 and 3 respectively.
You can also still get 2G/2.5G on China Mobile with the 935F/FD
kittiyut said:
I don't think even the SD820 935F version can be rooted yet, you'll probably have to wait even longer for the 9350.
So now you have a dilemma: Get the rootable 935F/FD and not be compatible with China Mobile's LTE TDD bands 38, 39, 40, 41 - OR - Get the 9350 and not being able to root.
Remember that you can easily switch to "China Telecom or China Unicom" both of which uses LTE bands 1,3,5 and 3 respectively.
You can also still get 2G/2.5G on China Mobile with the 935F/FD
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Hello,
I know this is a year old but I just came across this whilst researching for the S8. Just to add, I have the 935F from the UK and it works fine on 4G on China Mobile, not restricted to 2G/2.5G at all.
Hi all,
I am considering buying an OP5 from Dubai, but I live in Europe (Switzerland).
Does anybody know if the specs vary around regions? Or is it safe to assume that 4G/4G+ will work (including band 20 etc.)?
Thanks
atzakas said:
Hi all,
I am considering buying an OP5 from Dubai, but I live in Europe (Switzerland).
Does anybody know if the specs vary around regions? Or is it safe to assume that 4G/4G+ will work (including band 20 etc.)?
Thanks
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Please search. I'm sure you can easily find what your carriers Lte bands are and then research what's op5 bands are supported
I know what the bands for my carrier are and I can find the specs for OP5 on the Oneplus website. It appears that there are no differences in the hardware across regions but I wanted to confirm that. I know other brands (like Xiaomi) differentiate the hardware depending on the region where the phone is sold.
OP5 now supports 32 bands, all on same worldwide phone.