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Handscent Android group chat like iPhone

Well here it is my fellow androids. We asked for it and Handcent fell through. We should all thank Handcent and their developers for this new big update. Keep in mind this app is still in Beta stage. However, I tested it for a couple of days and I was able to chat with my fellow iPhone lovers. I was also able to chat with verizon Galaxy Nexus, Thunderbolt and LG revolution. I havent had a chance to chat with none Verizon phones. You guys will be our testers. Please list all bugs here and Ill forward the list to the developer. So far there are two bugs with this build. The first bug is double notifications on group mms and the second one is blurry background images with Droid Razor phones
Setup:
1. You must make this app default messaging app for all MMS and SMS.
"settings"->application settings->Default Messaging Application-> All(SMS&MMS)
2. You must enable Thread Group Conversation. Its all the way down in application settings
"settings"->application settings->group messaging->check Thread Group conversation
3. MMS retrieval should be set to Auto unless you want to download each group message.
4. You might experience some lag as the group mms pour in one after another. I think this is normal cuz I do experience it on my Razor maxx using the stock app since it has this this feature built in. In addition, I asked my freind with iPhone 4s if he experiences lag when all these group messages pour in and he said yes. Sometimes he cant touch his phone until all the messages have been received
5. Be gentle on me if I missed any bugs. Im already in the Dog house in my wifes book for spending too much time on this project. This is the reason why the developer is releasing the app for public feedback.
File got updated:
Fixed double notification
fixed some bugs
This file not in market, so you guys are Handcent beta testers.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/6yz8r9rbrec9c85/hc_sms.apk

Loving the capability! It seems to be working well.
Have one question/bug. Some replies say "Me:" and they go to the group. Some replies say "Me to name: and they are going individually to the group it appears.
I did not do anything different I don't think on any of the replies but I may be missing something or this could be a bug.
Thanks for the great feature!

tgrgrd00 said:
Loving the capability! It seems to be working well.
Have one question/bug. Some replies say "Me:" and they go to the group. Some replies say "Me to name: and they are going individually to the group it appears.
I did not do anything different I don't think on any of the replies but I may be missing something or this could be a bug.
Thanks for the great feature!
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What phone are you using? Can you send a screen shot. In other words when you reply to message, you are replying to yourself also? I had that at first was fixed. I wonder if each phone will have that bug
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trikotret said:
What phone are you using? Can you send a screen shot. In other words when you reply to message, you are replying to yourself also? I had that at first was fixed. I wonder if each phone will have that bug
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I am using the OG EVO. I will send you a PM with a screenshot.

tgrgrd00 said:
I am using the OG EVO. I will send you a PM with a screenshot.
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Go ahead send the screen shot and tonight ill email the developer. Unfortunately we didn't get a chance to test on none Verizon phones but I'm sure it's a quick fix.
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so testing it with cm9 on HTC evo 3D (sprint) doesn't seem to want to send group messages at all. Just get that continuous loading symbol and never sends. I'll test it on stock first and see if it is the problem with the rom and report back

tgrgrd00 said:
Loving the capability! It seems to be working well.
Have one question/bug. Some replies say "Me:" and they go to the group. Some replies say "Me to name: and they are going individually to the group it appears.
I did not do anything different I don't think on any of the replies but I may be missing something or this could be a bug.
Thanks for the great feature!
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I'm also experiencing this, Droid Charge on Gingerbread.

so i tested this out and it seems to work somewhat on stock rom, has trouble with cm9 it seems. big problem is i have to always manually download the mms to make it show up on the thread.

fsalazar504 said:
so i tested this out and it seems to work somewhat on stock rom, has trouble with cm9 it seems. big problem is i have to always manually download the mms to make it show up on the thread.
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Do you have mms setup as auto retrieve?
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tgrgrd00 said:
Loving the capability! It seems to be working well.
Have one question/bug. Some replies say "Me:" and they go to the group. Some replies say "Me to name: and they are going individually to the group it appears.
I did not do anything different I don't think on any of the replies but I may be missing something or this could be a bug.
Thanks for the great feature!
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The file has been update. Hopefully fix your issue.

So far I have had it "break" and resort to sending separate messages once. I have three theories as to why...
It may have been due to not completely removing my old Handcent beta first.
I was Texting with friends pretty frequently, and I noticed if I exit the thread and re-enter it would "convert to MMS", Maybe it drops out of MMS if you send several texts in a row?
The thread I was sending to had my google voice number in it, so I was essentially sending messages to myself at the same time.
Sometimes if you have a group message with say Joe Smith as a participant and a separate thread with Joe, getting the group text will show a notification for the separate thread and you have to do "mark as read" to fix it.
I am on a HTC Thunderbolt BTW.
Did not try the updated file yet, downloading now.

Morkai Almandragon said:
So far I have had it "break" and resort to sending separate messages once. I have three theories as to why...
It may have been due to not completely removing my old Handcent beta first.
I was Texting with friends pretty frequently, and I noticed if I exit the thread and re-enter it would "convert to MMS", Maybe it drops out of MMS if you send several texts in a row?
The thread I was sending to had my google voice number in it, so I was essentially sending messages to myself at the same time.
Sometimes if you have a group message with say Joe Smith as a participant and a separate thread with Joe, getting the group text will show a notification for the separate thread and you have to do "mark as read" to fix it.
I am on a HTC Thunderbolt BTW.
Did not try the updated file yet, downloading now.
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I think the new file supposed to fix this since they did find a bug. please post your results after you install new file

It works well for me.
Is there anything I can do about the <Subject: New Message> that shows up before every message?

bauerknight said:
It works well for me.
Is there anything I can do about the <Subject: New Message> that shows up before every message?
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I asked the developer about it. I did a test and sent a screen shot. I really love public Beta

trikotret said:
I think the new file supposed to fix this since they did find a bug. please post your results after you install new file
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Have not had the issue where the group message sends separate again, but this one is still happening...
Sometimes if you have a group message with say Joe Smith as a participant and a separate thread with Joe, getting the group text will show a notification for the separate thread and you have to do "mark as read" to fix it.

An issue happens when you send texts too quickly it sends you back to inbox and doesn't display the messages. From what my friends tell me it displays something weird in their group chat. I have to visually see it to confirm. Love that it actually works though
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fsalazar504 said:
An issue happens when you send texts too quickly it sends you back to inbox and doesn't display the messages. From what my friends tell me it displays something weird in their group chat. I have to visually see it to confirm. Love that it actually works though
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can you send me a screen shot please and Ill forward to developer.

How is it supposed to work? I tried it with my friend who has an iPhone but it didn't send messages via Internet service but normaly as SMS messages. Friend with iPhone tried to pull his sim card out of phone with no succes. Does it need any special settings to make it work?
Anyway I don't care much cause I have all my SMS free I just wanted to try that function.
I use HC Talk service to chat with my girlfriend everyday so there's no problem about functionless HC Service

loqan said:
How is it supposed to work? I tried it with my friend who has an iPhone but it didn't send messages via Internet service but normaly as SMS messages. Friend with iPhone tried to pull his sim card out of phone with no succes. Does it need any special settings to make it work?
Anyway I don't care much cause I have all my SMS free I just wanted to try that function.
I use HC Talk service to chat with my girlfriend everyday so there's no problem about functionless HC Service
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In the first post is suggests going to settings>application settings>default messaging application>set it to all sms and mms.
Then settings again>application settings>scroll all the way down>check the thread group conversation box.
Then should work
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trikotret said:
can you send me a screen shot please and Ill forward to developer.
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Ok I'll try and get one
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[Q] Group Messaging iphone users

i had the gs4 on release and i was messaging iphone users in group chat all the time then i switched back to the iphone 5 in june and now just recently about 3 days ago i switched back to the gs4 and i can't get any replies from people in the group chat. any advice im running shostock rom if that helps.
i checked online and i have removed the device and changed the password and even turned i message off on the original phone. what now

So nothing changed at all on the S4? You were using shostock initially as well? Do you have group messaging turned on in your sms/mms settings? (not sure if this feature is in shostock)

xBeerdroiDx said:
So nothing changed at all on the S4? You were using shostock initially as well? Do you have group messaging turned on in your sms/mms settings? (not sure if this feature is in shostock)
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1st time i was not using shostock it was stock att rom. do you know what other roms would have this feature if this one does not?

lorijuan1024 said:
1st time i was not using shostock it was stock att rom. do you know what other roms would have this feature if this one does not?
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I've used textra or gosms to 5 people with Iphones and they received pictures, texts I haven't had any problems
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337

Did you check your messaging settings to see if there's a group messaging option?

lorijuan1024 said:
1st time i was not using shostock it was stock att rom. do you know what other roms would have this feature if this one does not?
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I use the stock ROM on my AT&T S4 on MF3 and with "Group Messaging" enabled from Message > Settings - I usually have no problems. Sometimes longer messages come in from an iPhone user and I have to first hit "Download" and then it appears in the group message.

Try handcent, it always works for me. Also, stock messaging app has a group chat box, make sure its ticked. and data has to be on in order to group message. They send as MMS.

iPhone MMS not appearing on Messages but they show fine on Google Hangouts... WTH?!?

This one has me scratching my head looking for answers. I noticed this problem a while ago where my friends MMS sent from iPhones were not appearing on my Messages, I have the option for "fetch MMS automatically" and all I get is the little cloud but its blank, it only shows the time it was received, I've also tried disabling the fetch MMS automatically and even when downloading them it shows me the blank cloud. The doozy comes when I tried using Hangouts just to see what it was and to my surprise I could see all my SMS and MMS conversations from my contacts and all the pictures from the iPhone contacts were shown via Hangouts but they do not show on the stock Messages app.
Things I've tried:
1) Googling for answers only resulted in fanboyism comments and speculations that led to more fanboyism.
2) At first I tried contacting my carrier and they made me reset the APN settings to default, which I did and it was after that that I realized that it was only the iPhone MMS messages that weren't being received.
3) Tried disabling the Hangouts services via the Apps option on the settings menu. Restarted phone and still wouldn't work.
4) Been restarting my phone with each setting I change to see if it helps but no.
5) Been bugging my friends to send me MMS from their iPhones and one did get through but nothing more after that.
6) Made sure their iPhones had the setting of "Send MMS when iChat isn't available" enabled.
7) Made sure my old iPhone account was signed out of my old iPhone 4 so I wasn't receiving anymore iMessages.
I'm speculating that I either need to call my carrier again which is Claro PR and explain the situation to see if it helps, or maybe go to a store. Also, I've been thinking about Rooting my phone so I can uninstall some of the bloat, which included Hangouts but don't want to go down that path yet and I don't know if it would really help anything since I already tried disabling the service via the Apps options.
Please help me figure this out, I love this phone but this thing is bugging the hell out of me.

I have had problems with mms on hangouts and the stock app on Sprint doesn't support group mms. I have been using Go sms pro and everything works fine, including iPhone mms messages.
Hope that helps.
Sent from my Sprint LG G2.

p2cactus said:
I have had problems with mms on hangouts and the stock app on Sprint doesn't support group mms. I have been using Go sms pro and everything works fine, including iPhone mms messages.
Hope that helps.
Sent from my Sprint LG G2.
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Hmm... interesting a replacement messaging app, I would definitely keep this in mind so thanks a lot for the suggestion. I rather use the stock apps while I'm getting used to the phone since this is my first Android device but will definitely use this if resetting to factory defaults doesn't help my problem.
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Any other suggestions for my problem are welcomed.

LG didn't enable MMS group messaging on stock messages. My HTC One and S4 had the option in settings to enable it...LG left it out. If you haven't heard, TEXTRA is one of the best, fastest, light weight messaging apps that can handle iPhone group messages without the bloat on go sms and handcent. Look it up on the playstore...ratings are great and all my Android friends use it now. I've yet ran into any issues with group texting.
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SKyRocKeting727 said:
LG didn't enable MMS group messaging on stock messages. My HTC One and S4 had the option in settings to enable it...LG left it out. If you haven't heard, TEXTRA is one of the best, fastest, light weight messaging apps that can handle iPhone group messages without the bloat on go sms and handcent. Look it up on the playstore...ratings are great and all my Android friends use it now. I've yet ran into any issues with group texting.
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Hi and thanks for the reply, I've looked up Textra and seems like a nice alternative and has a very clean interface, I'm currently using Hangouts from Google without a problem but would have preferred the stock message app. It's weird because I went to my carrier and they did some test and everything was fine, turns out its only MMS sent from iPhones that won't show through the Message app from G2. Maybe I should try emailing them to see if I can get some answers?

Yea only the Verizon variant supports group messages. I posted a thread about this in the Themes and Apps forum. Could be the cause.
All my friends group text me all the time and send MMS using the Verizon version Messaging app and hangouts. The stock messaging app world best though.
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[Q] Group Text Question

People who respond to a group text are coming in separately on a different text...how do I have it where the conversation is all in one text? Like a chain text instead of individual ones?
I never had this issue in CM..there must be a setting for this.

Download Textra and never use another messaging app again.

crazymook said:
Download Textra and never use another messaging app again.
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Thanks for your response...is there a way to use the native messaging app?

Android group messaging out of the box is awful. Tho I wanna say it was grouping properly when I first loaded up my S5. I still would recommend ditching it for Textra. Its vastly superior.
Edit: I just checked my stock messaging app and its grouping properly...

Yes...it groups properly but when ppl respond it is going in a separate text.
Ex. When I send a group text to A and B. When A respond it does go in the group message I sent. Same for B. Are you experiencing this also?
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Are you asking me if the example is how it works for me? I have NOT used the stock messaging app to send a single message. I just checked to see if it was grouping messages and it was. So beyond that, I really cant offer help.
Seriously tho, ditch it for Textra. You'll be way happier.

Datfoooo said:
Yes...it groups properly but when ppl respond it is going in a separate text.
Ex. When I send a group text to A and B. When A respond it does go in the group message I sent. Same for B. Are you experiencing this also?
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In the message settings under Multimedia Message, is the group message option checked? I haven't done a group message over text yet, but when I do I use Hangouts as it always handled group messages well for me.

bgask1717 said:
In the message settings under Multimedia Message, is the group message option checked? I haven't done a group message over text yet, but when I do I use Hangouts as it always handled group messages well for me.
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Yea...there is no option there for group messages under Multimedia Message setting. Yea if i can't find the settings, prob need to install Textra or a messaging app. Thanks.

What I don't understand is why Android STILL cannot handle group texting to more than 10 people.
I have a group text with a group of my friends. We have about 12 people in the group and I can't text in it. I receive all of them just fine but nothing I do let's me send a text. Different phones, different apps, different APN settings...nothing. It's a joke.

DrexelDragon said:
What I don't understand is why Android STILL cannot handle group texting to more than 10 people.
I have a group text with a group of my friends. We have about 12 people in the group and I can't text in it. I receive all of them just fine but nothing I do let's me send a text. Different phones, different apps, different APN settings...nothing. It's a joke.
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I was able to do all these group texting just fine on CM Rom. I am trying to stay with stock for awhile until I get bored and start flashing away..btw I looked at Textra..looks like that app has issues with sending out pictures sometimes so its a no go. If anyone has any ideas or a way to enable group texting (all conversation in one text chain).

Datfoooo said:
I was able to do all these group texting just fine on CM Rom. I am trying to stay with stock for awhile until I get bored and start flashing away..btw I looked at Textra..looks like that app has issues with sending out pictures sometimes so its a no go. If anyone has any ideas or a way to enable group texting (all conversation in one text chain).
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Use handcent. Enable group conversation and automatic download in the settings.

i dont understand why the option is not there in the stock app or google hangouts... I had the galaxy s4 and both apps worked fine. I was with AT&T and now i am with T-Mobile..

Zamdam1 said:
i dont understand why the option is not there in the stock app or google hangouts... I had the galaxy s4 and both apps worked fine. I was with AT&T and now i am with T-Mobile..
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Okay i figure out what happen, I was missing a setting that now allow S5 to use group text.
Open up native messaging app, menu, multimedia messages, there should be an option that say group messaging. make sure that is checked.
For some odd reason I was missing that setting and finally found someone on the internet that was having the same issue. a factory data reset resolves the issue. yippppie.

Datfoooo said:
Okay i figure out what happen, I was missing a setting that now allow S5 to use group text.
Open up native messaging app, menu, multimedia messages, there should be an option that say group messaging. make sure that is checked.
For some odd reason I was missing that setting and finally found someone on the internet that was having the same issue. a factory data reset resolves the issue. yippppie.
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I tried reseting my phone 3 times.. Doesnt work for me. THe only options i have under Multimedia messages is, Delivery reports, read reports, auto retrieve, roaming auto retrieve, set restrictions and MMS alert.
Also, what would explain the group messaging option not being there in Google hangouts?

Zamdam1 said:
I tried reseting my phone 3 times.. Doesnt work for me. THe only options i have under Multimedia messages is, Delivery reports, read reports, auto retrieve, roaming auto retrieve, set restrictions and MMS alert.
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Same here...do a hard reset. power down your phone. hold power, up volume and home button. wipe data and factory reset.

Datfoooo said:
Same here...do a hard reset. power down your phone. hold power, up volume and home button. wipe data and factory reset.
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Still does not work...fckkk. My wife has the S5 too and she has that setting "group conversation" . Seems like other people were able to fix it.
http://androidforums.com/samsung-galaxy-s5/840946-group-messaging-problems.html

Datfoooo said:
Okay i figure out what happen, I was missing a setting that now allow S5 to use group text.
Open up native messaging app, menu, multimedia messages, there should be an option that say group messaging. make sure that is checked.
For some odd reason I was missing that setting and finally found someone on the internet that was having the same issue. a factory data reset resolves the issue. yippppie.
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Datfoooo said:
Same here...do a hard reset. power down your phone. hold power, up volume and home button. wipe data and factory reset.
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Ill try that now, but why isnt the option for group messaging in Google hangouts?
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the hard reset didnt work for me either.. I called tmobile earlier and they said to bring it in so we can swap it out..

Zamdam1 said:
Ill try that now, but why isnt the option for group messaging in Google hangouts?
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the hard reset didnt work for me either.. I called tmobile earlier and they said to bring it in so we can swap it out..
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I tried bringing it in...they are sold out. So I guess I might root then flash with a stock rom to see if it fix. Even the demo phone at tmobile was missing that setting strange..

Zamdam1 said:
Ill try that now, but why isnt the option for group messaging in Google hangouts?
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the hard reset didnt work for me either.. I called tmobile earlier and they said to bring it in so we can swap it out..
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Any luck getting this fixed?

Datfoooo said:
Any luck getting this fixed?
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Yes. I went to the store and got a new sim card. That's what fixed it.

Verizon Messages +

Has anyone been able to send texts over wifi using this app on the note 3? Ive read that people can get it to work on tablets, but i cant seem to make it send via wifi on the note 3.

sfld said:
Has anyone been able to send texts over wifi using this app on the note 3? Ive read that people can get it to work on tablets, but i cant seem to make it send via wifi on the note 3.
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I haven't tried it but if it's VZW related I will not put it on my device, I don't trust them.

I have used it on my PC.
When you first run it, it takes a while to download the last 3 months worth of text messages to/from your account....
...which in itself is scary....

I used it as my primary Texting App because it makes it effortless to sync across to my Tablet, and also allow texting from my Tablet. I don't trust Verizon either, but this is a dang good program. Put it on my spouses phone and tablet as well. Plus, I flash my phone(s) often and this actually syncs all SMS and MMS.

syntheticexctasy said:
I have used it on my PC.
When you first run it, it takes a while to download the last 3 months worth of text messages to/from your account....
...which in itself is scary....
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"when you first run it" ...
Ok what is "IT" that you're running on your PC???

TechnoHippie said:
"when you first run it" ...
Ok what is "IT" that you're running on your PC???
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http://www.verizonwireless.com/wcms/overlays/messages-desktop.html
I also figured out today that somehow, this app running on a PC shows when some other parties are typing. I suspect it's when the other party is using the messages app vs. the stock SMS app. The friend that I was chatting with earlier when I spotted this is coming over shortly, so I'll see whether she's using the stock messaging app, or "Verizon Messages".

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http://www.verizonwireless.com/wcms/overlays/messages-desktop.html
I also figured out today that somehow, this app running on a PC shows when some other parties are typing. I suspect it's when the other party is using the messages app vs. the stock SMS app. The friend that I was chatting with earlier when I spotted this is coming over shortly, so I'll see whether she's using the stock messaging app, or "Verizon Messages".
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Thank you for the link. I was unaware that this even existed! Downloading it now to play with it - whoot!

So my friend is using an S5 with the Messages+ app set as default SMS app on her phone. They must've done that from the factory?
I'm willing to bet this is in preparation for the move to VoLTE. (The messges+ app uses the internet to send messages vs. SMS messaging which is carried on the 1x network)