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[Q] Can I root 4.3 without flashing customer recovery

I had rooted my Nexus 4 when on 4.2.x by putting it in bootloader mode first and typing fastboot boot <name of twrp custom recovery>.img at the command prompt to reboot it into TWRP custom recovery mode without if actually flashing the TWRP recovery on the device. Back then, this temporarily recovery mode allowed me to flash the supersu update zip file I needed to. Since 4.3, this command reboots the phone, but the screen is now blank, and I can't flash the zip file. I can reboot the phone normally into stock recovery mode using the volume keys and power button, but this does not allow me to flash the zip file to root it. Can I still use fastboot boot method like before, and how? The reason I want t stay on stock recovery for now is to keep future OTA updates from throwing an error message.

rajendra82 said:
I had rooted my Nexus 4 when on 4.2.x by putting it in bootloader mode first and typing fastboot boot <name of twrp custom recovery>.img at the command prompt to reboot it into TWRP custom recovery mode without if actually flashing the TWRP recovery on the device. Back then, this temporarily recovery mode allowed me to flash the supersu update zip file I needed to. Since 4.3, this command reboots the phone, but the screen is now blank, and I can't flash the zip file. I can reboot the phone normally into stock recovery mode using the volume keys and power button, but this does not allow me to flash the zip file to root it. Can I still use fastboot boot method like before, and how? The reason I want t stay on stock recovery for now is to keep future OTA updates from throwing an error message.
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This is still possible but the command for booting into custom recovery changed.
This helps.

rajendra82 said:
I had rooted my Nexus 4 when on 4.2.x by putting it in bootloader mode first and typing fastboot boot <name of twrp custom recovery>.img at the command prompt to reboot it into TWRP custom recovery mode without if actually flashing the TWRP recovery on the device. Back then, this temporarily recovery mode allowed me to flash the supersu update zip file I needed to. Since 4.3, this command reboots the phone, but the screen is now blank, and I can't flash the zip file. I can reboot the phone normally into stock recovery mode using the volume keys and power button, but this does not allow me to flash the zip file to root it. Can I still use fastboot boot method like before, and how? The reason I want t stay on stock recovery for now is to keep future OTA updates from throwing an error message.
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The short answer is no, you need a custom recovery to install superuser. The long answer is you can flash a custom recovery and install superuser and then flash back the stock recovery. If that doesn't work then your out of luck.

kzoodroid said:
The short answer is no, you need a custom recovery to install superuser. The long answer is you can flash a custom recovery and install superuser and then flash back the stock recovery. If that doesn't work then your out of luck.
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You are absolutely wrong. I just booted into TWRP without flashing it and rooted my Nexus 4, which is otherwise stock 4.3. I still have the stock recovery on the device and can access it using the volume keys. Booting into TWRP was a temporary state achieved using the command line syntax:
fastboot -c "<your_default_command_line> lge.kcal=0|0|0|x" boot <name of custom recovery>.img
The 4.2.x version of this command was simpler, as it did not require the -c "<your_default_command_line> lge.kcal=0|0|0|x" part, but you do need it on 4.3, or the device just temporarily boots into a blank screen, instead of the custom recovery. So the long answer is you do need to boot into a custom recovery, but it does not have to be flashed to the boot partition. With a Nexus 4, you are never out of luck.

rajendra82 said:
You are absolutely wrong. I just booted into TWRP without flashing it and rooted my Nexus 4, which is otherwise stock 4.3. I still have the stock recovery on the device and can access it using the volume keys. Booting into TWRP was a temporary state achieved using the command line syntax:
fastboot -c "<your_default_command_line> lge.kcal=0|0|0|x" boot <name of custom recovery>.img
The 4.2.x version of this command was simpler, as it did not require the -c "<your_default_command_line> lge.kcal=0|0|0|x" part, but you do need it on 4.3, or the device just temporarily boots into a blank screen, instead of the custom recovery. So the long answer is you do need to boot into a custom recovery, but it does not have to be flashed to the boot partition. With a Nexus 4, you are never out of luck.
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Can you please write a Step by Step guide to root without flashing custom recovery,
I am familiar with basic commands of adb and fastboot. But a step wise guide will hep me get my N4 rooted

ajay_zalavadia said:
Can you please write a Step by Step guide to root without flashing custom recovery,
I am familiar with basic commands of adb and fastboot. But a step wise guide will hep me get my N4 rooted
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Follow @efrant's guide. Section E is enough assuming you are on stock android.
That will do the trick.

rajendra82 said:
I had rooted my Nexus 4 when on 4.2.x by putting it in bootloader mode first and typing fastboot boot <name of twrp custom recovery>.img at the command prompt to reboot it into TWRP custom recovery mode without if actually flashing the TWRP recovery on the device. Back then, this temporarily recovery mode allowed me to flash the supersu update zip file I needed to. Since 4.3, this command reboots the phone, but the screen is now blank, and I can't flash the zip file. I can reboot the phone normally into stock recovery mode using the volume keys and power button, but this does not allow me to flash the zip file to root it. Can I still use fastboot boot method like before, and how? The reason I want t stay on stock recovery for now is to keep future OTA updates from throwing an error message.
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Sorry for asking about your reason, but if you install the TWRP (or some other) custom recovery then can't you simply manually flash the OTA yourself? That's how I upgraded to 4.3.

ajay_zalavadia said:
Can you please write a Step by Step guide to root without flashing custom recovery,
I am familiar with basic commands of adb and fastboot. But a step wise guide will hep me get my N4 rooted
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Copy your custom recovery to where fastboot.exe is.
Open a CMD window and type
adb reboot-bootloader
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Then, once you're booted into Bootloader, type
fastboot -c "lge.kcal=0|0|0|x" boot customrecoveryname.img
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Flash SuperSU 1.51 zip and then reboot your device.

rajendra82 said:
You are absolutely wrong. I just booted into TWRP without flashing it and rooted my Nexus 4, which is otherwise stock 4.3. I still have the stock recovery on the device and can access it using the volume keys. Booting into TWRP was a temporary state achieved using the command line syntax:
fastboot -c "<your_default_command_line> lge.kcal=0|0|0|x" boot <name of custom recovery>.img
The 4.2.x version of this command was simpler, as it did not require the -c "<your_default_command_line> lge.kcal=0|0|0|x" part, but you do need it on 4.3, or the device just temporarily boots into a blank screen, instead of the custom recovery. So the long answer is you do need to boot into a custom recovery, but it does not have to be flashed to the boot partition. With a Nexus 4, you are never out of luck.
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In your original post you said you tried using the boot into recovery method and it didn't work so how am I wrong in saying that your only other option was to flash the custom recovery, install su, then flash the stock recovery all without rebooting? It was just another way of accomplishing the same thing. I posted at the same time as the other guy did who knew the new fastboot command, which I was unaware of and obviously you were too.

Mercado_Negro said:
Copy your custom recovery to where fastboot.exe is.
Open a CMD window and type
Then, once you're booted into Bootloader, type
Flash SuperSU 1.51 zip and then reboot your device.
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thank you, will try when I get chance :good:

kzoodroid said:
In your original post you said you tried using the boot into recovery method and it didn't work so how am I wrong in saying that your only other option was to flash the custom recovery, install su, then flash the stock recovery all without rebooting? It was just another way of accomplishing the same thing. I posted at the same time as the other guy did who knew the new fastboot command, which I was unaware of and obviously you were too.
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I just prefer the command line booting instead of having to flash a recovery twice. I already knew that I could flash the custom recovery to get it done, although I didn't clearly state that in the original post.

Mercado_Negro said:
Copy your custom recovery to where fastboot.exe is.
Open a CMD window and type
Then, once you're booted into Bootloader, type
Flash SuperSU 1.51 zip and then reboot your device.
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Thanks for you guide, but for use it, do I nerd unlocke the bootloader ?
Inviato dal mio Nexus 4 con Tapatalk 2

futuro82 said:
Thanks for you guide, but for use it, do I nerd unlocke the bootloader ?
Inviato dal mio Nexus 4 con Tapatalk 2
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Yes

Thanks
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kzoodroid said:
In your original post you said you tried using the boot into recovery method and it didn't work so how am I wrong in saying that your only other option was to flash the custom recovery, install su, then flash the stock recovery all without rebooting? It was just another way of accomplishing the same thing. I posted at the same time as the other guy did who knew the new fastboot command, which I was unaware of and obviously you were too.
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LOL.. You were still wrong though bro. Don't get upset about it. He didn't seem to be...
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How to Root without flashing custom recovery

HOW TO ROOT YOUR DEVICE WITHOUT FLASHING RECOVERY
This can be done with two methods.
ADB or FASTBOOT.
I have tested both methods and they worked for me.
I tested this on JSS15J. I am not sure about any other versions but I guess it should work.
SOME BASIC INFORMATION
Usually when you want to root your device, you must have UNLOCKED BOOTLOADER.
A CUSTOM RECOVERY is usually used to flash SuperSU to gain root access.
CUSTOM RECOVERIES ARE USUALLY FLASHED (they permanently replace your stock recovery)
In this guide, You BOOT into custom recovery by going into BOOTLOADER and then using fastboot/adb tools to flash SuperSU .
Booting is temporary and thus once you restart from recovery, the custom recovery will be gone
Make sure, you have USB debugging mode enabled. To go into bootloader you can either use adb commands ( Type [adb reboot bootloader] in cmd in platform tools directory with your device connected) or do it manually by turning it off and then holding power and volume down.
You must also have platform tools of SDK (Fastboot and ADB) for this to work. MAKE SURE YOU OPEN CMD into the folder where platform tools are present.
Try it on OWN risk. I will not be responsible for bricked devices or any damage.
ADB METHOD
Connect to your PC and make sure USB debugging is on.
COMMANDS IN BRACKETS. DON'T WRITE THEM. COMMAND WOULD BE LIKE : fastboot boot recovery.img
MAKE SURE YOUR DEVICE HAS UNLOCKED BOOTLOADER
(fastboot boot [recovery.img])--------------------- Name of recovery to be here
Mount /system and push the necessary files once the recovery has started:
(adb push su /system/xbin)
(adb push Superuser.apk /system/app)
Set correct permissions:
(adb shell)------------------------------ You have got into your device's shell
(chmod 06755 /system/xbin/su)
(chmod 0644 /system/app/SuperSU.apk)
(exit)
Reboot:
(adb reboot)
FASTBOOT METHOD
This is relatively easier as you will boot into custom recovery temporarily and then flash ZIP of SuperSU. Afterwards I recommend to clear davik cache and restart.
UNLOCKED BOOTLOADER REQUIRED
Boot into bootloader.
Type these commands to boot into custom recovery. This will not flash recovery and you will have stock recovery once you restart.
fastboot boot recovery recovery.img where recovery.img will be the file name of recovery
(After 4.4, use this command "fastboot boot recovery.img" instead of above mentioned)
After booting into reccovery, flash SuperSU and you are done.
I recommend clearing dalvik cache before leaving and restart.
And you are done.
YOU CAN ALSO USE A PREROOTED KERNEL WHICH YOU CAN FLASH VIA FASTBOOT. I AM NOT SURE IF THERE IS ANY
For information on how to retain root after OTA, please refer to this :
Update Super SU is also taken from this guide.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2415497
For Recovery/SuperSU/TWRP
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2382051
CWM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2381544
PLATFORM TOOLS:
http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=9390355257214632011
If you are stuck in a bootloop, make sure you have cleared dalvik cache in custom recovery.
I got bootloop when i tried with fastboot method as I was new to twrp, I explored it a bit and tried to remove system and tried overwriting data to see how it is different from CWM and check its strength. I got an error clearing cache so I rebooted into custom recovery to clear dalvik and my nexus booted fine (DON'T TRY THIS, JUST CLEAR CACHE AND WIPE DATA and restart)
REMEMBER, UNLOCKING BOOTLOADER WILL DELETE ALL YOUR DATA AND DOING WIPES WILL ALSO DELETE ALL YOUR DATA.
DALVIK WON'T DELETE YOUR DATA BUT
MAKE SURE YOU HAVE MADE A BACKUP using BACKUP PRO (non rooted) or Helium (non rooted) and Titanium Backup Pro (Daah, you are not rooted so this won't work)
GOOD LUCK

Booting into custom recovery to install root works fine.
As you mentioned unlocking bootloader is still a prerequisite.
You may want to just use the SuperSU install zip though. Though I haven't tried Superuser on this tablet, it is my understanding it hasn't been modified to work with 4.3 security. That may have changed since I last looked so if you find differently please post. SuperSU added a daemon mode to deal with 4.3 security changes.

sfhub said:
Booting into custom recovery to install root works fine.
As you mentioned unlocking bootloader is still a prerequisite.
You may want to just use the SuperSU install zip though. Though I haven't tried Superuser on this tablet, it is my understanding it hasn't been modified to work with 4.3 security. That may have changed since I last looked so if you find differently please post. SuperSU added a daemon mode to deal with 4.3 security changes.
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I got bootloop but then realised it might due to trying to wipe system in twrp. Clearing dalvik worked fine .SuperSU used

So you don't replace stock recovery if you boot into a custom recovery using fastboot?
Sent from my Nexus 7 (2013)

Muikkuman said:
So you don't replace stock recovery if you boot into a custom recovery using fastboot?
Sent from my Nexus 7 (2013)
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The trick here is to BOOT into custom recovery BUT not FLASH recovery permanently. Once you restart, the CUSTOM recovery will be gone.
You can use simple commands if using Fastboot
fastboot boot recovery [recovery name.img]
This way you will install SuperSU using recovery which is relatively easier than ADB commands.
You will only go into recovery temporarily.
I also read a forum where you can preserver root even after OTA/ Updates.
[UPDATE]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2415497
Do check that out as well.
I tried this with Twrp and superSU.
I got bootloop as I have been always CWM person so I accidently tried to delete system too with dalvik cache and hard reset and I got an error
However, I boot again into recovery and cleared wipes and the bootloop was gone

Hnk1 said:
The trick here is to BOOT into custom recovery BUT not FLASH recovery permanently. Once you restart, the CUSTOM recovery will be gone.
You can use simple commands if using Fastboot
fastboot boot recovery [recovery name.img]
This way you will install SuperSU using recovery which is relatively easier than ADB commands.
This way you will only go into recovery temporarily.
I also read a forum where you can preserver root even after OTA/ Updates.
Do check that out as well.
I tried this with Twrp and superSU.
I got bootloop as I have been always CWM person so I accidently tried to delete system too with dalvik cache and hard reset and I got an error
However, I boot again into recovery and cleared wipes and the bootloop was gone
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Thanks for your reply I'll make sure to check everything out.
Sent from my Nexus 7 (2013)

Muikkuman said:
Thanks for your reply I'll make sure to check everything out.
Sent from my Nexus 7 (2013)
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Anytime mate

How do we clear dalvik without a custom recovery?

Master619 said:
How do we clear dalvik without a custom recovery?
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You restart your device. Boot into bootloader and use fastboot to Boot into custom recovery(command given in post above).Once Into recovery, you can easily clear dalvik cache.
And remember, it might not require clearing cache because I was exploring twrp n overwriting data n tried To delete system to see how powerful the recovery is. I will update guide now

muikkuman said:
so you don't replace stock recovery if you boot into a custom recovery using fastboot?
Sent from my nexus 7 (2013)
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how do we clear dalvik without a custom recovery?
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guide updated. Check it.
Platform tools are being attached

The "fastboot boot recovery recovery.img" command is not working anymore. The command prompt returns with a "cannot load recovery" error. At least that's what it does on my Nexus 7 running Android 4.4.2.
This seems to affect Android 4.3 and upwards according to this Nexus 4 thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/help/solved-fastboot-boot-recovery-img-t2380675
There's a workaround with a different fastboot command line as mentioned in the thread. I wonder if there's also a fix for the Nexus 7. Any replies would be greatly appreciated.

gunner49 said:
The "fastboot boot recovery recovery.img" command is not working anymore. The command prompt returns with a "cannot load recovery" error. At least that's what it does on my Nexus 7 running Android 4.4.2.
This seems to affect Android 4.3 and upwards according to this Nexus 4 thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/help/solved-fastboot-boot-recovery-img-t2380675
There's a workaround with a different fastboot command line as mentioned in the thread. I wonder if there's also a fix for the Nexus 7. Any replies would be greatly appreciated.
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Did you try: fastboot boot recovery.img ?

mdamaged said:
Did you try: fastboot boot recovery.img ?
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That worked a treat! Thanks a lot mate!

Those who finding difficulty in rooting Nexus 7 (2013) can use Wugfresh Nexus Root Toolkit. It is so powerful that you would find every function you would like to do on your Nexus 7, from the comfort of your PC. Also watch qbking77 's video on using the Toolkit for further information.

[Q] Boot Loop (CM Recovery)

First of all, I know that there are many people asking same thing. I have checked those threads and I guess I am just a little bit more clueless. Last time I was able to use my Nexus 10 was 3 months ago. Since then I tried to solve it many times, but no luck so far. I will try to explain some of the issues I'm experiencing, but I'm afraid I'm not too good with all the expressions people are using on this forum.
1. ADB vs Fastboot
I see this mentioned often and I don't know what exactly it means. It's amazing to me that I can't google it, I'm usually good with googling. I can see that my N10 is sometimes listed under ADB and sometimes under Fastboot devices but I have no idea what I did to change that. I do know that whatever I try to do at certain point, it's always in "wrong" mode, waiting for adb etc. So if someone can point me to a thorough explanation, a wiki or something, that would be very nice.
2. The Loop
I managed to get ClockworkMod v6.0.4.3 installed and it's this loop that device is now inside. I've tried pretty much all possible combinations, wiped both caches, did factory reset, rebooted to system/bootloader/recovery... nothing. Always ends up on same CM menu.
3. Android Toolkit
I have installed this on my computer and tried so many things that I forgot about all details. I tried flashing the big 400 MB stock image to the device, but haven't been successful (says waiting for ADB, even if the device WAS listed as ADB device before I started the procedure). I am also expecting to see the N10 as another "drive" from my desktop, if you know what I mean, so that I could copy files to it. However I don't see it that way, I only see it registered as a Nexus 10 device, like a mouse or any other non-drive device. Is this normal?
So what to do? Can anyone tell me in a simple way, because I am obviously stupid enough to find threads I've seen so far not clear enough. And I would actually think that my computer literacy level is rather high, I think that this Nexus 10 is the only thing that brought me to my knees in last 20 years of working with computers.
And when I say "simple wiki style" I'm thinking of something like this:
Ok. no links allowed, great. It's a redmondpie article named
/how-to-set-up-android-adb-and-fastboot-on-windows-tutorial/
This is easy enough for me... but do I assume correctly that all this has already been done with me installing Android Toolkit? If so, it uses a different path structure and I don't see all those folders...

So u do have cmw installed, when u try to flash a ROM it just boots to recovery?
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newellj79 said:
So u do have cmw installed, when u try to flash a ROM it just boots to recovery?
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You mean flashing ROM only with CWM, not through android toolkit? Through CWM menu I have tried (many times):
- wipe data / factory reset
- wipe cache partition
- wipe dalwik cache
I don't see way to do anything with:
- install zip
- backup and restore
- mounts and storage
Rebooting menu items do following:
- Reboot system --> reboots to same CWM recovery menu
- Reboot to bootloader --> reboots to the stock bootloader "menu" where I can choose between Start, Power Off, Recovery mode (picking this will reboot to CWM recovery menu) and Restart bootloader (picking this will reboot to this same menu)
- Reboot recovery --> reboots to same CWM recovery menu

1 adb works only in os and recovery, fastboot works only in bootloader
2 it looks like your recovery is screwed up, flash this with fastboot
http://techerrata.com/file/twrp2/manta/openrecovery-twrp-2.6.3.1-manta.img
fastboot erase recovery
fastboot flash recovery nameofrecovery.img
3try not to use toolkits, you have a nexus, toolkits are more complicated than manual methods and you won't learn anything from it
Once you have recovery
Wipe all, then you will will need to use adb sideload to flash ROM as you have no ROM on emulated sdcard
Go to advanced menu
adb sideload
adb sideload nameofROM.zip
adb sideload gapps.zip
For more info on fastboot
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2277112
Sent from my Nexus 7 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app

demkantor said:
1 adb works only in os and recovery, fastboot works only in bootloader
2 it looks like your recovery is screwed up, flash this with fastboot
http://techerrata.com/file/twrp2/manta/openrecovery-twrp-2.6.3.1-manta.img
fastboot erase recovery
fastboot flash recovery nameofrecovery.img
3try not to use toolkits, you have a nexus, toolkits are more complicated than manual methods and you won't learn anything from it
Once you have recovery
Wipe all, then you will will need to use adb sideload to flash ROM as you have no ROM on emulated sdcard
Go to advanced menu
adb sideload
adb sideload nameofROM.zip
adb sideload gapps.zip
For more info on fastboot
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2277112
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The first part worked ok. The second part doesn't.
ADB sideload - I went there in the Nexus menu
adb sideload kitkat2501.zip
returns this:
* failed to write data 'protocol fault (no status)' *
If I do it without starting adb sideload on nexus, then it just says "error: closed", so it does recognize the change.
I downloaded the latest sdk tool, 64-bit, and the stock nexus 10 rom from 25th Janaury.

Let's do this, grab the latest stock for manta from here
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
fastboot erase system -w
fastboot erase boot
fastboot erase recovery
And extract and run the flashall.bat
This should bring you to the latest official software/firmware. Then with you up and running we can root and give you custom recovery,ROM,whatever
If you have an issues at all please copy and paste all input/output from cmd/terminal here
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demkantor said:
Let's do this, grab the latest stock for manta from here
fastboot erase system -w
fastboot erase boot
fastboot erase recovery
And extract and run the flashall.bat
This should bring you to the latest official software/firmware. Then with you up and running we can root and give you custom recovery,ROM,whatever
If you have an issues at all please copy and paste all input/output from cmd/terminal here
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You are a wizard. I got it all ok now and I added CWM to it, it was easy to root it from there.

Help Me Root This Thing! XT1575

I've done a lot of research on a reliable way to root my Moto X Pure Edition XT1575 and want someone to check my plan before I pursue this. I'm gonna download TWRP for Clark and superSU 2.78 and put them in the same folder and open up the command prompt in that folder. Then hook up to the PC and enter the following command "fastboot boot twrp.img" then I'm gonna replace the twrp.img with the name of the twrp file and backup to the SD. Then reboot into the bootloader again and flash twrp with fastboot "fastboot flash recovery twrp.img" then start recovery and go to reboot into recovery again to lock it in. Then I'm booting back into twrp and going to Advanced & Terminal and entering the following command "echo SYSTEMLESS=true>>/data/.superSU then back home then flash superSU 2.78.
Please correct me on everything that may be wrong. If there's a better way to root, tell me how to do it your way.
My device info:
Moto X Pure Edition XT1575 (clark)
Build# MPH24.49-18
Kernel version 3.10.84
Android version 6.0
Bootloader OxAo48
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ElectroJoe said:
I've done a lot of research on a reliable way to root my Moto X Pure Edition XT1575 and want someone to check my plan before I pursue this. I'm gonna download TWRP for Clark and superSU 2.78 and put them in the same folder and open up the command prompt in that folder. Then hook up to the PC and enter the following command "fastboot boot twrp.img" then I'm gonna replace the twrp.img with the name of the twrp file and backup to the SD. Then reboot into the bootloader again and flash twrp with fastboot "fastboot flash recovery twrp.img" then start recovery and go to reboot into recovery again to lock it in. Then I'm booting back into twrp and going to Advanced & Terminal and entering the following command "echo SYSTEMLESS=true>>/data/.superSU then back home then flash superSU 2.78.
Please correct me on everything that may be wrong. If there's a better way to root, tell me how to do it your way.
My device info:
Moto X Pure Edition XT1575 (clark)
Build# MPH24.49-18
Kernel version 3.10.84
Android version 6.0
Bootloader OxAo48
Sent from my Moto X Pure Edition
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You've researched well. Couple things: The command is "echo SYSTEMLESS=true>>/data/.supersu", you added capitols on supersu. Next your first command of "fastboot boot twrp.img (or whatever you rename the TWRP recovery image to)" will live boot TWRP, which for our device is not necessary. Live booting is essentially booting into a custom recovery environment without actually installing the recovery. This is useful for devices that DO NOT have factory images available, which allows you to make a backup in the live environment prior to altering your device. We have factory images and factory recovery images, so you can skip this step and go right into "fastboot flash recovery twrp.img (or again, whatever you rename the recovery image to). Then after the recovery flash from within fastboot, you must reboot into recovery using the button select options within fastboot or your recovery will be overwritten by the stock recovery. Upon first boot of TWRP you'll have an option to keep your device read only or read/write. I personally choose NOT to keep it read only, rather read/write, because I don't care about taking OTA's with a custom recovery, but this is up to you. Then you'll want the supersu.zip on your device already (you want the regular standard current version, not a modded one from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/supersu/stable-2016-09-01supersu-v2-78-release-t3452703), either on your internal or external sd. And yes, prior to flashing supersu enter the command in TWRP without quotes "echo SYSTEMLESS=true>>/data/.supersu" (this prevents the bootloop that our device gets when flashing supersu in systemless mode). And your good to go. I just did this a few weeks ago from clean fastboot flashing the latest factory image, works perfectly.
Now for some clarity, I'd like someone else to chime in on the TWRP command "echo SYSTEMLESS=true>>/data/.supersu" that has to be entered. I know for sure entering the command prior works, and roots properly, but I have also read that the latest 2.78 version of supersu does not require this. I'd really like someone that KNOWS FOR SURE (no opinions) if this step can now be bi-passed, or if our device requires and will always require this step now and in the future. This will help solve a ton of questions about this issue that are spread throughout the forums so users don't have to dig to get a simple answer.

Thanks for taking the time to educate me on this. I'm gonna give it a try in a few minutes. Will I be a developer if I get it right? Hahaha I'll let you know how it goes
Sent from my Moto X Pure Edition

annoyingduck said:
You've researched well. Couple things: The command is "echo SYSTEMLESS=true>>/data/.supersu", you added capitols on supersu. Next your first command of "fastboot boot twrp.img (or whatever you rename the TWRP recovery image to)" will live boot TWRP, which for our device is not necessary. Live booting is essentially booting into a custom recovery environment without actually installing the recovery. This is useful for devices that DO NOT have factory images available, which allows you to make a backup in the live environment prior to altering your device. We have factory images and factory recovery images, so you can skip this step and go right into "fastboot flash recovery twrp.img (or again, whatever you rename the recovery image to). Then after the recovery flash from within fastboot, you must reboot into recovery using the button select options within fastboot or your recovery will be overwritten by the stock recovery. Upon first boot of TWRP you'll have an option to keep your device read only or read/write. I personally choose NOT to keep it read only, rather read/write, because I don't care about taking OTA's with a custom recovery, but this is up to you. Then you'll want the supersu.zip on your device already (you want the regular standard current version, not a modded one from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/supersu/stable-2016-09-01supersu-v2-78-release-t3452703), either on your internal or external sd. And yes, prior to flashing supersu enter the command in TWRP without quotes "echo SYSTEMLESS=true>>/data/.supersu" (this prevents the bootloop that our device gets when flashing supersu in systemless mode). And your good to go. I just did this a few weeks ago from clean fastboot flashing the latest factory image, works perfectly.
Now for some clarity, I'd like someone else to chime in on the TWRP command "echo SYSTEMLESS=true>>/data/.supersu" that has to be entered. I know for sure entering the command prior works, and roots properly, but I have also read that the latest 2.78 version of supersu does not require this. I'd really like someone that KNOWS FOR SURE (no opinions) if this step can now be bi-passed, or if our device requires and will always require this step now and in the future. This will help solve a ton of questions about this issue that are spread throughout the forums so users don't have to dig to get a simple answer.
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It worked! I'm rooted and looking for a stable rom with a lot of features and customizations that works with Verizon LTE. I also want viper4android. I'm glad I backed up because I tried flashing a viper4android zip and it caused my phone not to boot. It just sat at the unlocked bootloader warning so I just restored it. Evidently, I was supposed to unzip the file in esfile Explorer and install the apk. I think I also needed the selinux mode changer app.
What would I gain by installing a custom Kernel to my rooted stock rom? Can I even do that?
Sent from my XT1575 using Tapatalk

ElectroJoe said:
It worked! I'm rooted and looking for a stable rom with a lot of features and customizations that works with Verizon LTE. I also want viper4android. I'm glad I backed up because I tried flashing a viper4android zip and it caused my phone not to boot. It just sat at the unlocked bootloader warning so I just restored it. Evidently, I was supposed to unzip the file in esfile Explorer and install the apk. I think I also needed the selinux mode changer app.
What would I gain by installing a custom Kernel to my rooted stock rom? Can I even do that?
Sent from my XT1575 using Tapatalk
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Flash ViPER4Android from here, no SELinux changing app needed: http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/viperaudio-viperatmos-3-8-sq-driver-t3289075
As for custom kernel, Frankenclark. Features available is in the post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-style/development/kernel-frankenclark-t3289939

annoyingduck said:
Now for some clarity, I'd like someone else to chime in on the TWRP command "echo SYSTEMLESS=true>>/data/.supersu" that has to be entered. I know for sure entering the command prior works, and roots properly, but I have also read that the latest 2.78 version of supersu does not require this. I'd really like someone that KNOWS FOR SURE (no opinions) if this step can now be bi-passed, or if our device requires and will always require this step now and in the future. This will help solve a ton of questions about this issue that are spread throughout the forums so users don't have to dig to get a simple answer.
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I literally did this to a fresh MXPE two weeks ago... misspelled the filename so it wasn't recognized (it isn't supersy apparently), and flashed SuperSU 2.78-SR1, rebooted and stuck at boot logo for 20 minutes. Rebooted into TWRP and entered the correct echo command to create the .supersu file and reboot, it looped twice quickly and then went to the lockscreen after a 2-3 minutes.

Help with loss of root/twrp

I need help! Here’s the story. Sorry for the lengthy post. TL;DR at the bottom..
- Was on B32, unlocked BL, TWRP installed, rooted with SuperSU
- Updated to B35, but lost TWRP and root (I don’t know how, but I assume I must have wiped the wrong things? - system? - I’m clearly a novice)
- Now I’m on B35 with an unlocked BL, but despite days of searching and researching, I can’t for the life of me figure out how to get TWRP reinstalled. I want to have TWRP before trying Magisk (have never used Magisk before, but would like to try it this time instead of SuperSU)
- From my Mac, using terminal, adb recognizes my devices.
- “adb reboot boot loader” gets me to a list of options “power off, restart, recovery, fastboot, back to previous page”. Choosing fastboot simply restarts the phone. What should “fastboot mode” look like?
- I tried flashing TWRP via adb while on this page and terminal stopped at “waiting for any device” and did nothing
My conclusion is that I need to downgrade to whatever latest version allows fastboot commands to work properly? Is this B15? If so, is the only available B15 zip the one that is on the ZTE website? Do I just wipe data/dalvick/cache and flash this zip?
Do I not need a Bootstock and Systemstock like @DrakenFX usually posts? That’s how I’m used to doing any updates.
Thank you all for your help, both past and present!
TL;DR: Would like to downgrade from B35 to B15 so that I can install twrp and root again. What’s the best way to do this and where can I find the appropriate files?

alajoy said:
I need help! Here’s the story. Sorry for the lengthy post. TL;DR at the bottom..
- Was on B32, unlocked BL, TWRP installed, rooted with SuperSU
- Updated to B35, but lost TWRP and root (I don’t know how, but I assume I must have wiped the wrong things? - system? - I’m clearly a novice)
- Now I’m on B35 with an unlocked BL, but despite days of searching and researching, I can’t for the life of me figure out how to get TWRP reinstalled. I want to have TWRP before trying Magisk (have never used Magisk before, but would like to try it this time instead of SuperSU)
- From my Mac, using terminal, adb recognizes my devices.
- “adb reboot boot loader” gets me to a list of options “power off, restart, recovery, fastboot, back to previous page”. Choosing fastboot simply restarts the phone. What should “fastboot mode” look like?
- I tried flashing TWRP via adb while on this page and terminal stopped at “waiting for any device” and did nothing
My conclusion is that I need to downgrade to whatever latest version allows fastboot commands to work properly? Is this B15? If so, is the only available B15 zip the one that is on the ZTE website? Do I just wipe data/dalvick/cache and flash this zip?
Do I not need a Bootstock and Systemstock like @DrakenFX usually posts? That’s how I’m used to doing any updates.
Thank you all for your help, both past and present!
TL;DR: Would like to downgrade from B35 to B15 so that I can install twrp and root again. What’s the best way to do this and where can I find the appropriate files?
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I'm not sure where you read all that BS, but if your bootloader is unlocked then you can install TWRP via EDL (Or fastboot if you have it). No need to downgrade for anything :laugh: in the past you would have needed to downgrade in order to unlock the bootloader, now it's not even needed
Download EDL Tool by djkuz and install TWRP with that one. Or you can use axon7tool by tennear, but it's much more finicky and ran entirely by commands (no UI).
And just to avoid more trouble, DO NOT LOCK THE BOOTLOADER! You do that with the system even barely modified and you brick the phone. A bunch of people tried to do something, got scared because they made a simple correctable mistake and just locked the bootloader thinking everything would get restored to stock - doesn't work that way.
Not saying you will do this, but I've seen about 4 or 5 people that started just like you and ended up doing that

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I'm not sure where you read all that BS, but if your bootloader is unlocked then you can install TWRP via EDL (Or fastboot if you have it). No need to downgrade for anything :laugh: in the past you would have needed to downgrade in order to unlock the bootloader, now it's not even needed
Download EDL Tool by djkuz and install TWRP with that one. Or you can use axon7tool by tennear, but it's much more finicky and ran entirely by commands (no UI).
And just to avoid more trouble, DO NOT LOCK THE BOOTLOADER! You do that with the system even barely modified and you brick the phone. A bunch of people tried to do something, got scared because they made a simple correctable mistake and just locked the bootloader thinking everything would get restored to stock - doesn't work that way.
Not saying you will do this, but I've seen about 4 or 5 people that started just like you and ended up doing that
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Wow, thanks so much for responding to this. Sounds like this should be easy! A couple of questions before I go about following your advice:
1). Do I download EDL Tool to my computer or phone??
2). If I'm downloading it to my computer, does it matter that I'm using a mac?
Thanks again for your help!

alajoy said:
Wow, thanks so much for responding to this. Sounds like this should be easy! A couple of questions before I go about following your advice:
1). Do I download EDL Tool to my computer or phone??
2). If I'm downloading it to my computer, does it matter that I'm using a mac?
Thanks again for your help!
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Oh, skipped that part. EDL Tool is a .bat. I'm pretty sure you won't be able to run it on a Mac. If you can find a Windows PC somewhere to do this, it'd be much better...
But there's another way.
Issuing "adb reboot bootloader" effectively sends you into fastboot. That list you mentioned is fastboot (if it says "Start" in green, and you can scroll that, it is fastboot). Just use fastboot from the pc: Put TWRP on the fastboot folder on the PC, then issue "fastboot flash recovery twrp.img" with "twrp.img" being whatever the twrp file name is. After that issue "fastboot reboot recovery". And as soon as you are on TWRP, DON'T GET OUT OF IT. Just wipe data, system, caches; then flash a system (e.g. b10 bootstack and stocksystem), then also flash Magisk, and THEN boot to system

Choose an username... said:
Oh, skipped that part. EDL Tool is a .bat. I'm pretty sure you won't be able to run it on a Mac. If you can find a Windows PC somewhere to do this, it'd be much better...
But there's another way.
Issuing "adb reboot bootloader" effectively sends you into fastboot. That list you mentioned is fastboot (if it says "Start" in green, and you can scroll that, it is fastboot). Just use fastboot from the pc: Put TWRP on the fastboot folder on the PC, then issue "fastboot flash recovery twrp.img" with "twrp.img" being whatever the twrp file name is. After that issue "fastboot reboot recovery". And as soon as you are on TWRP, DON'T GET OUT OF IT. Just wipe data, system, caches; then flash a system (e.g. b10 bootstack and stocksystem), then also flash Magisk, and THEN boot to system
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"adb reboot bootloader" takes me to the start up screen that says "your device software cannot be checked for corruption..." etc. and gives you 5 sec to either press up or down on volume keys to get to list: “power off, restart, recovery, fastboot, back to previous page”, but the list is all white. If I select "fastboot" it reboots the phone and starts that cycle over again at the "your device software cannot be checked for corruption..." etc page.
Nowhere am I given a chance to use fastboot commands. I'm never on the page with the green "Start".
..This all seemed a lot simpler on my Nexus 5..
Thanks for your help/patience.

alajoy said:
"adb reboot bootloader" takes me to the start up screen that says "your device software cannot be checked for corruption..." etc. and gives you 5 sec to either press up or down on volume keys to get to list: “power off, restart, recovery, fastboot, back to previous page”, but the list is all white. If I select "fastboot" it reboots the phone and starts that cycle over again at the "your device software cannot be checked for corruption..." etc page.
Nowhere am I given a chance to use fastboot commands. I'm never on the page with the green "Start".
..This all seemed a lot simpler on my Nexus 5..
Thanks for your help/patience.
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I thought you had fastboot since you described the 5 seconds screen and both are very similar. It's normal not to have it though.
I think there's some version of axon7tool for Linux but I'm not sure at all. The best way would be to find a Windows computer.
I wonder how you actually installed TWRP the first time? Via fastboot?
As soon as you get TWRP you should be able to run a few commands to get fastboot back just to have it around.

Choose an username... said:
I thought you had fastboot since you described the 5 seconds screen and both are very similar. It's normal not to have it though.
I think there's some version of axon7tool for Linux but I'm not sure at all. The best way would be to find a Windows computer.
I wonder how you actually installed TWRP the first time? Via fastboot?
As soon as you get TWRP you should be able to run a few commands to get fastboot back just to have it around.
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I have adb and fastboot installed on my Mac and I can't remember how I got it working on my phone in the first place, but I've only ever used a Mac for all this. Terminal recognizes my device and responds to commands until I try "fastboot flash recovery twrp.img" then it says "<waiting for any device>" and does nothing.
Thanks again for the help. I'll keep hunting though. I don't have access to any Windows computer.
Cheers