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Guys,
I have applied all current tweaks and so on as I have seen throughout this forum (inc. searching) and my Blackstone Camera is still autofocusing/going blurry and is very slow at taking photos using the normal camera. On my Trinity it was instant and relatively alright. On this camera 5 out of 15 shots are alright and the rest have blurs which only occur after the standard delay in taking the photo! This changes depending on lighting conditions but is very annoying and makes the camera useless since you loose previous moment!
Scenario: Take photo and press to focus and it is a clear photo, the cross goes green and then it takes the photo and the image then goes blurred.
Known Issue: "the blur camera problem is because camera automatically goes to "night mode" in low light conditions, or even in not so low light conditions. if there any possibility to turn off that function"
Questions:
1) What is the manual focus method to override this?
2) Are there any camera software updates or hot fixes to sort this out?
3) What are everyones optimum camera settings?
4) Are there any tweaks that will sort this out?
5) Lastly, before I install it, there is a new Radio ROM update on the Wiki what advantages does this provide into sending MMS photos or using 3G - What are the bugs or downside of upgrading to the ROM update?
Update (15/1/09) - I have found that these so far to be the best optimum settings even with the :
HD Tweak > Camera >
Burst -> Enabled
Photo Theme -> Enabled
Sport -> Enabled
Video share -> Enabled
GPS Photo -> Enabled
Burst mode resolution -> 3 Mega Pixels
Sport mode resolution -> 3 Mega Pixels
Advanced Config > Camera
Save location -> DCIM (default)
Encode photos to portrait mode -> No
Capture key delay -> Enabled (default)
Key Delay -> Enabled (default)
Capture Key Delay -> 1
Camera > Settings
Resolution -> 5M
White Balence -> Auto
Camera > Settings > Advance
Widescreen -> On
Touch Focus -> On
Review Duration -> 3 Seconds
Quality -> Super Fine
Shoot Option -> Touch
Image Properties -> Contrast (+4) Saturation (+4) Sharpness (+5)
Metering Mode -> Center Area
Flicker Adjustment -> Auto
Cheers
Hawk
Nighthawk2050 said:
3) What are everyones optimum camera settings?
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Would be interesting indeed.
i backup hawk.
very intersted also in improving xam performances
thanks to those that can help!
Good points hawk! Subscribed to this thread
My camera options are : Touch (not hold) to take photo, more sharpness ->+5 and more satureness and the other thing (sry not english rom) -> +4
but the photos are still look blured when not taken during daytime and outside...
Manual focussing would be great! Any other Photo making applications known?
i tried every single tweak even in registry, but nothin...50% pics are blurred.
I see autofocus delay depends on several things (light, distance to the object), I don't know why htc provided a so important bug in camera, but I hope there's no hardware problem.
Similar problem here. I did not realise until a few days ago that the camera has the Sony Touch focus feature and wondered if you touch on the screen first where you want it to focus that would help. I haven't tried it yet but wonder if it has been focusing somewhere else on the screen rather than around the centre area as I had not been setting it.
Anyone tried that?
It's true that compared to the cybershot of a sony-ericsson.... the camera of the T-HD ( event all the other's HTC) is CRAPPY ! No really the quality, but to have a good picture you should stay motionless during 3 "real" seconds !! and the thing on the picture too of course ! that's awful...
Ciao
Fred
The camera is very good in sunny conditions.. Examples:
http://one.xthost.info/mypicture****/example1.jpg
http://one.xthost.info/mypictures****/example2.jpg
The only thing I did was resizing them.. All settings on +3. I'll search for a regtweak; hope to find something.
Use Advanced Config app and go to Camera setting.
Enable "Capture Key Delay"
Enable "Key Delay"
Change "Capture Key Delay time" to 1.
In you Camera advanced settings, increase Saturation, Sharpness and Colour to 5 and make sure you choose super fine in image properties. Finally Touch only for capture key.
I am happy with the above settings.
Please don't put the sharpness to 5. It makes the pictures pretty ugly..
tboy2000 said:
Use Advanced Config app and go to Camera setting.
Enable "Capture Key Delay"
Enable "Key Delay"
Change "Capture Key Delay time" to 1.
In you Camera advanced settings, increase Saturation, Sharpness and Colour to 5 and make sure you choose super fine in image properties. Finally Touch only for capture key.
I am happy with the above settings.
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Hi,
I tried to set sharpness, saturation and colour to +5 but it is even worst in my experience. Somemore, I found that, HD camera could takes very good quality under the Sun, very good light condition, very low light condition such as in door (but not dark). However, the photo would goes blur when in door with medium light condition such as inside office no matter how I set camera setting.
For me personally, I am happy with the three options set to 5. I guess it is just down to user preference. Experiment yourself to see what settings make you happy.
tboy2000 said:
Use Advanced Config app and go to Camera setting.
Enable "Capture Key Delay"
Enable "Key Delay"
Change "Capture Key Delay time" to 1.
In you Camera advanced settings, increase Saturation, Sharpness and Colour to 5 and make sure you choose super fine in image properties. Finally Touch only for capture key.
I am happy with the above settings.
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Hi there,
I can't seem to find the above setting on my HD
Enable "Capture Key Delay"
Enable "Key Delay"
Change "Capture Key Delay time" to 1.
could you guide me through ??
Cheers
sgt_sidz said:
Hi there,
I can't seem to find the above setting on my HD
Enable "Capture Key Delay"
Enable "Key Delay"
Change "Capture Key Delay time" to 1.
could you guide me through ??
Cheers
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You need this tweaking tool to acess this values
Advanced Configuration Tool v3.3
If I set the Capture Key Delay Time to 1 (from 1500), would I have to enable the two Capture Key enabl;ed/disabled settings in Camera too? Currently they're both disabled (and I just now set the time to 1).
Hmmm... just softreset; the camera was just as slow... and the time was reset to 1500 miliseconds!
So now I have enabled the two settings and re-set the 1500 ms to 1ms, softreset and...
....WTF? the two setting have stuck at 'enabled' (good), but the time has reset back to 1500 (bad)! After screwing around a bit, I finally changed it to 1, long-pressed the entry and hit 'save', not softreset on the prompt (I softreset earlier as soon as I had changed, and it didn't stick/save the time setting) which seems to have done it when I re-entered AC. Now one more softreset...
Well, finally the settings have stuck/been saved...but the camera is still just as slow. It really sucks, because it does this whole "zoom full in, zoom full out, compare, find focus, prepare to save pic, finally save pic after 3 seconds" thing. It might be just a tad quicker now, but it doesn't really make a difference.
The camera app should be totally re-written. It's a nice camera, hardware wise, but software wise it's ****ed up. At the very least it should be finding auto-focus when you hit the screen to set touch-focus location, and then just take the picture when you hit the button. Or just have a way to turn off auto focus and manually focus with an onscreen slider (one which preferably replaced the zoom slider!!!).
Anyone know how open PPC is to this? I've been reading into Android, and have read that you have full access to raw CCD images as they stream from the camera, so it would be possible to totally re-write the camera application, or at least change it. Does Windows Mobile allow this kind of access to the hardware?
MacDegger said:
If I set the Capture Key Delay Time to 1 (from 1500), would I have to enable the two Capture Key enabl;ed/disabled settings in Camera too? Currently they're both disabled (and I just now set the time to 1).
Hmmm... just softreset; the camera was just as slow... and the time was reset to 1500 miliseconds!
So now I have enabled the two settings and re-set the 1500 ms to 1ms, softreset and...
....WTF? the two setting have stuck at 'enabled' (good), but the time has reset back to 1500 (bad)! After screwing around a bit, I finally changed it to 1, long-pressed the entry and hit 'save', not softreset on the prompt (I softreset earlier as soon as I had changed, and it didn't stick/save the time setting) which seems to have done it when I re-entered AC. Now one more softreset...
Well, finally the settings have stuck/been saved...but the camera is still just as slow. It really sucks, because it does this whole "zoom full in, zoom full out, compare, find focus, prepare to save pic, finally save pic after 3 seconds" thing. It might be just a tad quicker now, but it doesn't really make a difference.
The camera app should be totally re-written. It's a nice camera, hardware wise, but software wise it's ****ed up. At the very least it should be finding auto-focus when you hit the screen to set touch-focus location, and then just take the picture when you hit the button. Or just have a way to turn off auto focus and manually focus with an onscreen slider (one which preferably replaced the zoom slider!!!).
Anyone know how open PPC is to this? I've been reading into Android, and have read that you have full access to raw CCD images as they stream from the camera, so it would be possible to totally re-write the camera application, or at least change it. Does Windows Mobile allow this kind of access to the hardware?
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I also experimented with these camera settings via Adv Config and I got the same results...the camera still takes forever to take pictures. I tested it indoors under the same lighting/angle/etc. The camera is probably the most disappointing thing about this phone...really amazing they would make it like this.
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Well, finally the settings have stuck/been saved...but the camera is still just as slow. It really sucks, because it does this whole "zoom full in, zoom full out, compare, find focus, prepare to save pic, finally save pic after 3 seconds" thing.
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Try the touch focus before pressing the capture button.. and if you're saving to the SDcard, I saw a tweak somewhere for speeding up access which might help as well.
I save to SD card and my captures take a fraction of what they used to take before applying the tweaks, somewhere round half a second.
I have 5Mp, superfine, whitebalance set to auto, all picture properties set to +4, and the metering mode set to center, perhaps that helps.
I usually do use the touch focus...makes no difference. I use pretty much exactly the same settings you do...still takes a long time. As for the tweaks you mentioned...would that be the SD tuneup.cab?
yep, that's the one. Sad it doesn't help on yours. I do also have quite a few of the optimisation tweaks in place, maybe they help the camera too.
any settings would not get this delay done.
in the light conditions, the autofocus really fast and shot!
in the dark/dawn conditions, the autofocus really slow then shot.
I had a diamond before I got my Xperia, besides the little problems like the bluetooth turning off (fixed with good ol' mortscript) and stuff its awesome.All though the camera is realy bad, it gives a realy nice picture but the exposure time is way too long even with sport mode on. you've got to hold the thing perfectly straight for a second or two other wise its blur-city.
Is this just my X1 or are others having the same problem?
Can't say I use the camera much just would be nice to find some sort of reg key or something to make it a bit more functional.
Yes, the camera is virtually unusable as-is, because you have to keep it steady for ages.
And the problem is that if you give the phone to someone else to help you take a group picture, the long shutter time (which no one normally expects) means I have to go and explain to people to keep pressing for 2-3 seconds and not move at all.
It is stupid.
Yup, its a shame SE realy need to send out a few fixes for this phone, after all it is their flagship product at the moment, the O2 stores near me cant even get hold of them.
Bluetooth and Camera definatly need fixing
Unfortunately, since SE has decided not to use HTC to build their phones again, the Xperia X1's firmware is unlikely to be fixed ever again... sigh.
Eh, it doesn't matter if SE cooperates with HTC or not, they have their own WM department and a new firmware is already out according to this (czech) site:
Code:
http://semania.mobilmania.cz/content/view/3163/2/
One quick solution is going for infinity focus instead of auto-focus. Seems like the majority of the time is taken up by the focusing function.
the tw rom is newer in the rom thread.
as to the focus i tend to press it and leave it.
I'm trying to say that if you have focus set to auto (in the camera settings) it takes much longer to take a photo than when you have it set to infinity.
fards said:
the tw rom is newer in the rom thread.
as to the focus i tend to press it and leave it.
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Not so easy to do this if you are at a party and want to take a group photo...
Maybe infinity focus is the answer...
btw do we know what the latest firmware is?
open the phone and press the enter button once, or press the ok/center dpad once to start the process of the picture being taken.
also use multi shot this allows you to take pictures after another and then later delete ones that you do not want.
the US x1 has a newer camera cab but it doesnt help the time it takes to take a pic
i use sport mode with focus set to infinity as default settings. this gives great results and no need to hold still that much as some were suggesing.
overall the camera is great and its clearly better than the T*Omnia 5MP camera.
lets hope the new camera application from the Asian rom improve things. is it avalable CABed someware?
Sport and infinate
Although the focus isnt as good as Macro or Auto it is an improvment for the capture speed.
Setting to Sport and Infinate works a hell of a lot better than what I was using. (Sport and Auto).
Cheers guys.
shadowmike said:
open the phone and press the enter button once, or press the ok/center dpad once to start the process of the picture being taken.
also use multi shot this allows you to take pictures after another and then later delete ones that you do not want.
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I thought this for ages, its not true it really just means it has a slower shutter speed (multi-frame shot) which is why most of your pictures that involve movement will come out blurry.
Also, here is a hint for taking pictures faster: The button has 2 pressure points, hold the button down to the first point to focus, do NOT let go--then push it down all the way to take the picture it should do it instantly
For me Sports + Infinite = instant picture.
shadowmike said:
open the phone and press the enter button once, or press the ok/center dpad once to start the process of the picture being taken.
also use multi shot this allows you to take pictures after another and then later delete ones that you do not want.
the US x1 has a newer camera cab but it doesnt help the time it takes to take a pic
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thanks a lot, I didn't know the entre button and do the work
Poetique said:
For me Sports + Infinite = instant picture.
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infinite=no autofocus
When I change the standardfocus setting in the camera settings it won't save it. When I start the camera later it doesnt give me the right settings i choosed in camer settings. What am I doing wrong here? For example I wan't sport mode with macro, but I get sport mode with autofocus everytime I start the camera..
Fille84 said:
When I change the standardfocus setting in the camera settings it won't save it. When I start the camera later it doesnt give me the right settings i choosed in camer settings. What am I doing wrong here? For example I wan't sport mode with macro, but I get sport mode with autofocus everytime I start the camera..
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You have to press the down arrow on the bottom right side of the screen when in settings this will bring a more detailed settings page and you can set the default settings in there and your camera will use them everytime
Good luck
I'm a Touch Pro user but we don't have the ability to do infinite zoom. It's probably a registry value we're missing. Would anyone mind sharing any registry strings that seem to discuss focus or zooming? It would likely be in HKLM/Software/HTC/Camera
Thanks
Fille84 said:
When I change the standardfocus setting in the camera settings it won't save it. When I start the camera later it doesnt give me the right settings i choosed in camer settings. What am I doing wrong here? For example I wan't sport mode with macro, but I get sport mode with autofocus everytime I start the camera..
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Same problem here. The default focus setting is infinite, but the camera is on auto everytime.
I don't know about you guys but i think its stupid the way you take a picture when you move the camera it autofocusses on to a certain spot but when you press the button to take picture it doesn't try to focus first i think the camera should do that to get the best picture since when pressing this button you move the camera...
Also when taking a picture on screen it looks nice and bright but when taking the picture it is very dark how can this be helped?
Does anyone know what to do about it?
Thnx!
Hi,
Have you tried adjusting the settings, i.e. Brightness, Sharpness & ISO?
I found the camera takes a little adjusting to get the best out of it. As for the auto-focus isn't there an option for that? I no longer use the Stock HTC ROM so I cannot remember if it contained such a setting.
its because your meant to touch the area of the picture you want it to focus on, then take the picture.
i've been having a hard time taking self shots with girlfriend.
srsly.
Idk how you guys use it
please advice.
hyocca said:
i've been having a hard time taking self shots with girlfriend.
srsly.
Idk how you guys use it
please advice.
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enable "self portrait" option in the camera menu and it will auto focus and auto shoot without a single button pressed.
I've been hunting around the Web and trying various apps looking for a camera that has tap for exposure (or exposure lock). The closest one was Camera Awesome, however, an error occurs stating that it doesn't support the device if you try and activate it (I have a galaxy s4 i9505). Prior to looking into this, I really thought it wasn't too much to ask for. Does anyone know why it's not a feature that's available on our devices?
What sad is that apps on the iPhone and a jailbreak tweak for the stock camera has this feature.
y.pango said:
I've been hunting around the Web and trying various apps looking for a camera that has tap for exposure (or exposure lock). The closest one was Camera Awesome, however, an error occurs stating that it doesn't support the device if you try and activate it (I have a galaxy s4 i9505). Prior to looking into this, I really thought it wasn't too much to ask for. Does anyone know why it's not a feature that's available on our devices?
What sad is that apps on the iPhone and a jailbreak tweak for the stock camera has this feature.
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S4 does have exposure lock, just not in auto mode, try night mode its also good for daylight pictures - main difference is that it is processed by software (S600) with a little more agressive denoise filter than auto mode (which is processed by bulid in Fujitsu ISP). Sport mode also does the job
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S4 does have exposure lock, just not in auto mode, try night mode its also good for daylight pictures - main difference is that it is processed by software (S600) with a little more agressive denoise filter than auto mode (which is processed by bulid in Fujitsu ISP). Sport mode also does the job
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Exposure lock has not been obvious on the S4... Thank you!
Can I just check... what is it that you are pressing to activate the exposure lock? Are you holding down the shutter button to lock exposure (and focus) then recomposing the frame? This method actually works for me in Auto mode as well... unless there is another method I can't seem to work out.
I found a camera that has exposure lock: CameraPro.
I'll have to use it more before I can give feed back.. initial impressions is that it's fairly easy to use with the user defined on camera/screen buttons
Simply point the cam at a bright spot so the exposure will adjust itself. Then, while holding the shutter button point at what you want to take a picture of again and release the shutter button.
This works in stock rom and cm10.2/cm11
When I'm using manual mode in the camera. I'll set ISO, shutter etc. When I use the flash, I'll tap to let it focus. I'll have the overall exposure of the image set just right. I tap to take the photo, then boom... the saved image is FAR brighter than what it appeared before it saved it. EVERY single time this happens. When I check the EXIF data on the saved images, their ISO, Shutter speed etc all match what I had it set to.
Why the hell does it keep jacking up the exposure AFTER I've already tweaked the settings? This ruins perfectly good shots. I find it doesn't do this in full auto mode. But then again, full auto takes mediocre shots. I have cleared cache and data for the camera. Doesn't help.
Not rooted. Still on Android 7.0 Nougat (Build 13A because I like my battery life).
A couple of example images
Here's a couple images I grabbed from the camera. It's just an image of a spray bottle used for a test shot. The first image is a screen cap I took from a screen recording video (Mobizen) while I was using the Camera app. That first image is the final focused image I'm seeing.. AFTER I manually adjusted shutter speed and ISO to get the exposure right. I tapped it twice just to make sure (and took a screen cap of that moment).
The second image is the image the camera saved in the gallery after pressing the shutter button. This ONLY happens on manual mode. Why is it doing this? It makes manual mode almost useless because it keeps ruining photos that I HAD in perfect exposure.
Does Oreo update fix this crap?