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Hi all,
Just back from holiday and my new toy has arrived - an external aerial for the Exec...
Not sure if this has been covered before (I tried searching for 20 mins and didn't find anything) but after experimenting I have discovered the following:
The left hand aerial socket only works for GSM.
The right hand aerial socket only works for UTMS.
Guess I always wondered why there were 2 sockets!!!
G
Aerial sockets? Can we see some pics please?
I'd be interested in more info on this as well.
Do you know what type of connector it uses?
Any ideas on the reliability of the connections, they look as though they could be flimsy?
Have you tried to see if they improve the Wi-Fi signal at all?
And the ultimate question, what aerial is it that you bought?
Thanx in advance,
Pug.
gquipster said:
Hi all,
Just back from holiday and my new toy has arrived - an external aerial for the Exec...
Not sure if this has been covered before (I tried searching for 20 mins and didn't find anything) but after experimenting I have discovered the following:
The left hand aerial socket only works for GSM.
The right hand aerial socket only works for UTMS.
Guess I always wondered why there were 2 sockets!!!
G
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I think you are mistaken!
One socket is for an external GSM antenna (2G and UMTS), the other socket is for an external WIFI antenna.
jasonkruys said:
I think you are mistaken!
One socket is for an external GSM antenna (2G and UMTS), the other socket is for an external WIFI antenna.
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And are these avaiable off the shelf yet??
Mav
Aerial I bought and more...
Well to answer the important question of what aerial I bought it was this one:
http://www.mobilephonecrazy.com/modeldetail/xda-exec,Signal_Enhancer.htm
I mainly bought it for the car - driving through Windsor Great Park the signal is a bit dubious at places so bought this to improve it.
I've actually downgraded the radio stack on the phone to 1.09 recently as 1.13 seemed to have problems with the UMTS signal - in places where everyone else was getting a good UMTS signal I was getting 0 to 1 bars at most - and it does seem better now, but the built-in aerial of the Exec doesn't seem very good at all - hopefully the successor will have a better antenna!
The above aerial I think is a fairly standard aerial but the important thing as far as we are concerned is that it came with a 50cm fly lead that has a socket for the aerial at one end and a plug that goes into the back of the Exec at the other - it came in a little plastic bag marked "SPV M5000" - I'm not an electronics expert I'm afraid so can't tell anyone the actual type of plug but I'll photograph it tonight if anyone is interested.
Right I have to drive to work - have a good day everyone!
Hi,
It looks like a great find. Can you comment on how good the aerial is? Does it really do a good job of increasing signal strength and if so by how much on average?
Does it give you a signal in places you didnt used to get a signal before?
It would be great if you can post the results of your "discovery".
I have a really crap signal in my office and need to balance my phone on top of a lamp to get just 1 bar....
Also you might want to move this to the accessory board?
Any chance on some feedback for this aerial?
I really want to sort my reception problem out and would like to know how your aerial performs before wasting money...
Thnks
I'd love to post some performance reviews of this aerial however some blaggard on Friday stole my car, laptop, phone and aerial so at the moment I'm kinda incommunicado :-(
Once insurance kicks in and I get replacements (should have new work laptop shortly) I'll post some performance comments.
Sorry all!!!
G
gquipster said:
I'd love to post some performance reviews of this aerial however some blaggard on Friday stole my car, laptop, phone and aerial so at the moment I'm kinda incommunicado :-(
Once insurance kicks in and I get replacements (should have new work laptop shortly) I'll post some performance comments.
Sorry all!!!
G
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Bummer chap, hope you get sorted.
Mav
OK looks like I wil take the chance and buy an aerial anyway.
I will let you know....
Sorry about the uni
Dude sory to hear about the uni getting robbed. I also live in windsor so will keep an ear to the ground for anyone selling/getting rid of a uni.
But back to the thread.
I work in a second world war hangar with 3ft thick walls, so reception is nill.
After looking into wifi a little while back, I was making an external wifi antenna for my uni for use around home and work (very basic just a pice of wire and a wooden pole). When I plugged it in to my uni I found that the network signal (not the wifi) reception went up to 3 bars from nothing.
I have plugged the antenna in the wrong connector.
so after cocking up I have solved a problem with the signal but not the wifi.
All I used was a 10mtr pice of coax (50hm). A standard female uhf tv conector and this is the important bit, a 36mm copper rod from the centre of a power cable. Fit this in the uhf connector and point it upward like an aerial. connect the coax to the uhf connector.
Then on the other end strip the coax down to the centre core strands and snuggly slot them in the connection on the back of your uni.
Thats it!!!
Now i said it was basic!! but it does work despite the amount of cable.
If anyone would like photos I will take them toinight and try to pop them on my web site. But for now I can e-mail untill its up and running. [email protected]
If anyone would like some of the coax (I get it from work) and are near the Windsor area, feel free to e-mail me and we can sort getting some to you. (free as we are all in the same boat here).
My next project will be a car mounted type. watch this space!!
Found this on the wiki:
http://www.wpsantennas.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=408
This is just a connector, you still need an external antenna, which you can find on this site as well. If you poke around the site there is also a 3w bi-directional amp which boosts range up to 50 miles.(85km) It only works on 2 frequencies, and I don't know which is which, so I'm not sure what it's good for.
Greetings @all,
first sorry for my terrible English.
The Ameo (Athena) is a great device and i really love it,
but there is something that let me go mad.
I´can´t find a GPS Patch Antenna for the device.
T-Mobile tell me that they can´t help me.
HTC doesn´t Answer until now.
Does any one know wich kind of Patch-Antenna I need for the Athena ?
I tried until know a Patch antenna for the Thypoon 3500, a MCX-Antenna and a MMCX-Antenna but they all doesnt fit. MCX was really close but still didn´t.
I need one because in my Car i have a Front Window with heating.
For any answer or hint i will be verry happy.
Jack
Are you SURE you need one? My ford has front screen heating, but the GPS works perfectly! The chipset seems to be pretty darn sensitive! I'm not sure the connector - in fact, which aerial socket is it on the back, the left or the right?
Look in the artemis forum
Look in the Artemis section. The premium package came with one, and I kept mine after selling the unit as non-premium. However, I have really not had to use it on any device yet.
There's a thread in there with part number etc.
Thanks, for the quick reply.
@Digital.Diablo:
sorry but i´m sure i need an external, i already tried it and i became no Satelites - I tried it with the programm Falk Navigator Pro SC and i´m driving
a Ford Focus Turnier with a new front screen heating. The Original one was heavy damaged by a stone.
@victoradjei
I will try the one for the Artemis with the Ameo(Advantage/Athena) and i will Report if it fits. I don´t find in the Artemis Forum the Name of the Connectorpin. Did you know its Name (for example: mcx )?
Greetings
Jack
It's Motorola standard antenna.
MrHagen said:
It's Motorola standard antenna.
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Well, and wich Connector mean´s that ?
Standard antenna for wich Motorola ?
Greetings
Jack
I think the artenis is a Mini - MMCX
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-283181.html
http://www.gpsforless.co.uk/product_details.php?id=5887
Jack_Blues said:
Thanks, for the quick reply.
@Digital.Diablo:
sorry but i´m sure i need an external, i already tried it and i became no Satelites - I tried it with the programm Falk Navigator Pro SC and i´m driving
a Ford Focus Turnier with a new front screen heating. The Original one was heavy damaged by a stone.
@victoradjei
I will try the one for the Artemis with the Ameo(Advantage/Athena) and i will Report if it fits. I don´t find in the Artemis Forum the Name of the Connectorpin. Did you know its Name (for example: mcx )?
Greetings
Jack
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It might not be that you need an antenna.Check all of your settings! I am not familiar with your mapping software,but there is a thread somewhere regarding problems with other map software and how they solved it.
I can use mine inside of a 10 story building with Tom Tom on it and it works excellent!
Hope this helps..................Later
mine doesn't work in nearest and costliests car or on foot in most heavily wooded either(more important for me).
so If the parch antenna works please let me know. I'm loathe to carry around my bt gps, it's something else I'd need to carry an extra charger for!
unfortunatly, Artemis hasn't MMCX. I have GPS Shop and i checked it out.
@hdbueller:
well, outside the car i have no Problem to get a Sat fix.
also oh the rear window anything is fine, Tested it earlier just for fun.
@fards: I already tested mmcx and mcx both didn´t fit
I tried this product´s:
http://www.dealcatshop.de/catalog/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=&products_id=85
and
http://www.dealcatshop.de/catalog/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=&products_id=158
@MrHagen: you wrote you have a GPS Shop. Could you check wich one fits to the HTC Athena/Advantage X7500/T-Mobile-Ameo ?
@all: by the way, a lot of thanks for all your replies
Right now i wait for the Artemis Patch Antenna, in hope it will fit.
I will report, promise
Greetings Jack
Sounds like your windows are metallized. You could try driving with you're windows wound down! Let us know how you get on!
After Long Time waiting the Artemis Patch Antenna arived on Saturday,
I Tested it and damm doesnt fit. The Connector looks right but didn´t fit through the case. The hole ist too small for the connector.
Has anybody an Idea where i can find one that fits.
Greetings Jack
If i get a chance I'll ask gpsforless.co.uk
If they don't know but have a selection in stock I can call in and test some out on the way home from work if they'll let me..They aren't far from me
Jack_Blues said:
After Long Time waiting the Artemis Patch Antenna arived on Saturday,
I Tested it and damm doesnt fit. The Connector looks right but didn´t fit through the case. The hole ist too small for the connector.
Has anybody an Idea where i can find one that fits.
Greetings Jack
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This would be really nice. I verry Thank you.
Greetings Jack
Hope at Last
Yust new on the expansys.de website:
HTC Advantage External GPS Antenna
I ordered it directly. Hope that when it arrived all my problems are solved.
Greetings
Jack
That's cool or maybe not...
Spoke to gpsforless last week, they hadn't got a clue what it was likely to be, not had a chance to call in yet as been working odd hours.
Connector: MS-147-C(LP)-2 HTC list that as the same as the P3300/artemis, Jack was your original patch cable a branded HTC one? it's the same item if it is.
http://www.expansys.com/htc/p_htc_item.aspx?i=147380&p=tech
Damm sounds not good, yes it was an Original HTC cable i ordered by expansys.de too. The Connector look´s right but doesnt fit through the hole in the Ameo metal case
Greetings Jack
Jack - did you receive this and did it fit ok?
Jack_Blues said:
Hope at Last
Yust new on the expansys.de website:
HTC Advantage External GPS Antenna
I ordered it directly. Hope that when it arrived all my problems are solved.
Greetings
Jack
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Today the Antenna arived, and it fits !!
A little bit weaken, but it works perfectly.
Thanks to expansys, i was just geeting starting mad.
Greetings Jack
Hi all
Does anyone know of a tweak to allow radio to be played without inserting a wired headset, I often listen to music via bluetooth and would like the option of radio as well, thanks in advance.
By the way, I did search the forum before posting this as I know you guys have certain protocols in place.
Cheers.
try this and see if it works
Change the following registry : HKLM\System\State\Hardware\Headset from 0 to 1
hi, thanks for the reply.
I don't have my headset with me today but after I changed the reg the radio still would not play directly through the phone, what exactly should this reg edit do?
it should make the phone think that a headset is plugged in..havent tested it myself to be honest but it should work..however whether or not you will have a signal from the radio is another story
Dude, ther is no use for this... Even if you would get the device to start the radio without the headset pluged in, there would be no sound since the headset is the antenna...
So it would be like you are watching tv without cable... no reception!
There must be at least something in the mini usb plug. I found that it works at least a little bit when plugging in this thing only and playing the sound over the internal speaker though reception is poor at best.
http://www.pdashop.nl/product-gallery/41080/0
Good luck!
There is some use to it... although the wire is the antenna the phone will act as an antenna also so you will recieve some signal it just won't be as strong.
Without fully testing there is no way of telling how good the signal would be, surely a phone that can pick up a GPS signal and a mobile signal should be capable of also picking up a radio frequency?
no, its not possible:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=432619
ok, I get the message. Thanks for all your help.
OT - I searched "Radio without Headset" accross this forum and had no hits.
I noticed that innocent people get shot down when they don't search before posting a question, how are they supposed to get decent results with a search engine that doesn't work properly. - Great site guys, the people here really know there stuff but perhaps go a little easier on people who search to no avail before posting. You don't have to reply to the post and if you do wouldn't it be best to simply give the answer or direct them to another post, up to you but it doesn't help anyone to just put - SEARCH THE FORUM or RTFM (a new one on me!)
Hope you see the point of this post, I am simply giving my opinion as an outsider who has just purchased a Diamond and I'm just getting into mods and tweaks!
p.s. Loving the GPS cycle computer. Best app by far!
GSM is in a very much higher frequency band, so it uses a very much smaller antenna than you would need for your radio. This is two very different systems. It will not work without an antenna
hi all,im hoping some one can help!
the ear speaker stopped working on my hd so i took it in to a local shop to have it repaired but since then the bluetooth will not work and the wifi has to be next to whatever its connecting to to get a signal!
any ideas?
thanks
alex
I would hardreset
and maybe try another rom
and if non of those things worked
I would say the antenna inside had be damaged
as it would explain the poor range
i have upgraded the radio and put a new rom on it.
is there any way to check for damage?
Sounds like a damaged antennae. :S
Same with me... aehh my Blackstone)
But: I changed my Display and Digitizerboard (Digitizer was failed)
I think there are Antennas within the Chassis, if it not mounted correct, Bluetooth and WIFI fails.. :-(
Hi folks!!
I need help to fix this problem I have with the mini GPS, The Mini don't recieve any signal from the satelites , I use NaviComputer and GoogleMaps with the Mini's GPS, two days ago it worked perfectly.
by the way i don't move any settings, so I DON'T KNOW what happens
Thank you!
Please Sugestions?
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Please Sugestions?
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Hello my friend.
First update quick gps.Test the gps program you have in an outside area.
Then you can use htc gps tool
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=360477
it works for our mini.
Just try these and tell me if the problem is fixed
Hi nsourm
Well dude, I already do all you told me, but i got the same results.. nothing happens, also i made a Hard Reset, update the GPS data, run the app, still nothing
i attach some screens for you review.
HI Guys!!!
I FIX THE GPS!!!!!!!!!!!, the problem, the antenna cable was loose, I reconnect it again and it Worked 100%
So could you share with us, where the antenna is located?
A photo maybe?
Please take a look to this video -> HTC Aria Disassembly, you will see EXACTLY the same layout in the Mini;
The coaxial cable for the GPS is the blue one, the white one is for the WiFi, the WiFi antenna is located in the top yellow cover of the mini (the one that protects the camera and the speaker), the GPS antenna i believe is located in the same location.
Remember I don't identified it, because my problem was the GPS blue coaxial cable was loose, I only reconect it and solve my problem.
Best Regards
Wow! You have dared to disassemble your phone!
Great that problem is solved.
-kOS- said:
HI Guys!!!
I FIX THE GPS!!!!!!!!!!!, the problem, the antenna cable was loose, I reconnect it again and it Worked 100%
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Hello, my dear,
I still cannot find the gps antenna...
At the video posted above they don't talk about GPS ANTENNA...
Could you, please, give me a hand? My HTC Mini shown the same problem...my GPS just stopped working.
I'm desperated!
Pleaaaaaaaaaaaase!
HEEEEEEEEEEEEELP!
Thanks in advance
Did you have install Android system ?