This is from a newbie, so please forgive me if these questions are too basic. They are about a rooted 2013 Nexus 7 running Android 4.3 (55j).
1. Using ES Explorer I see that two folders take up a lot of space :
a) TWRP with 2.16 GB almost entirely in the backup folder
b) Titanium backup with 1.72 GB
Can I move the Twrp backup folder to a pc and delete it from the tablet?
2. Moving the Titanium backups doesn't make sense because they are set to create backups ever so often, so they will just recreate themselves. Correct?
2. I really like ES Explorer, but the Local section in its Fast Access bar has 3 predefined locations.
Is there a way I can add other locations to the local section? How?
3. The Nexus 7 does not have an sdcard. I noticed that it has an emulated "storage" folder that essentially duplicates the sdcard folder.
Question :
When I save or load something into/from an app, does it matter whether I save to the emulated folder or the one in the sdcard folder.
Why are there emulated folders?
Thank you all.
This emulated sdcard folder (/emulated/0/sdcard) is needed by the Android system to provide a space accessible for apps to save their data because there is no real SD card existing. If the device is not rooted, this is the only folder that you can edit. As you are rooted user, you could save files anywhere, but I don't recommend it.
The /sdcard folder is just a link leading to the same folder as above so it doesn't matter what folder you use.
Hope I could help you!
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I created a backup zip file of some images that were in the main sdcard folder that's found within the mnt folder and I was trying to delete said zip file as I thought I'd made a mistake with the zip file and somehow I ended up deleted most of the folders within the sdcard folder!
I checked out the Storage section within settings and it has the following information:
Total space]
13.11GB
Apps
3.28GB
Pictures, videos
245MB
Misc.
8.33GB
Available
1.31GB
Even though the information in the Internal Storage section is correct, when I check my folders using a file explorer software on my device which is rooted and running AOKP, it shows that the folders and files that I deleted are still missing.
Is there anyway to access the internal memory via an ADB-type software that will allow me to recover the files and folders that were deleted by accident as well as let me back up the internal memory to a PC once the recovery is done? (That is, when I can access the damn device as it's being a pain in the ass trying to detect it on my laptop!)
I use Recuva from Piriform located HERE ! It found and restored 234 MP3's that I guess I was pocket deleting on my DHD.
Thanks for the link. I'll check it out as soon as I can get my device recognised on my laptop and netbook!
Using SD maid if found where the heck all my storage was going. Under /storage/emulated the folders /legacy and /0 are exactly the same with all the same stuff in it. Is there 2 of everything in my internal SD? Can I delete one of these folders? I attached a screenshot
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For giggles I deleted one. The folder was still there but empty and the other folder is also empty. I'm thinking they are the same just shown twice with different names. Not actually duplicate.
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Hmm okay damn. Trying to figure out where this space is going because all I really have is a couple things in the downloads folder and thats it. Another screenshot of my storage in settings kinda further backs my idea
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Have you done any nandroid backups?
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jpeterson066 said:
Using SD maid if found where the heck all my storage was going. Under /storage/emulated the folders /legacy and /0 are exactly the same with all the same stuff in it. Is there 2 of everything in my internal SD? Can I delete one of these folders? I attached a screenshot
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They are not duplicate files... The files are only stored in one location, but each folder has a "link" to them...
Sorta like your computer and creating "shortcuts"
That's all well and good, but...
UberSlackr said:
They are not duplicate files... The files are only stored in one location, but each folder has a "link" to them...
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...even Android's storage manager can't get it right:
Phone:
mako 16GB
rev_11
MAKOZ10o
M9615A-CEFWMAZM-2.0.1700.48
Secure Boot - enabled
Lock State - unlocked
Rooted with (an otherwise) stock ROM (4.2.2 OTA) and Clockwork Mod Touch 6.0.2.3.
I have found four places seeming to be my SD storage:
/sdcard
/storage/sdcard0
/storage/emulated/0
/storage/emulated/legacy
I've attached other screenshots showing how File Expert HD and DiskView treat my storage. CWM 6.0.2.3 also "misinterprets" my storage situation so I can't make more than 2 backups, and if I have 2 then I struggle for space for downloads and apps. I really wouldn't care about this if apps understood it - it makes you wonder how it managed to get released when not only do no apps support it, but Android's own system gets confused!
I've seen posts talk about merging all SD data with /data/media/0 but on my phone (using both File Expert and the new File Expert HD) that's showing up as a file not a folder. Seriously, how do I sort this out? Which is the real folder, why are the other three there, how do I disable this silly "shortcut" thing that's destroying my phone's storage?
Did you guys make any nandroid backup on the SD cards?
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Did you guys make any nandroid backup on the SD cards?
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Yeah, what originally alerted me to the space issue was when I went to make my second nandroid since installing the 4.2.2 OTA. I made one before and one after the update, then went to make a third in order to have a recent backup before trying to flash the Ubuntu Touch Dev preview but the nandroid failed due to insufficient storage space.
Ultrabenosaurus said:
Yeah, what originally alerted me to the space issue was when I went to make my second nandroid since installing the 4.2.2 OTA. I made one before and one after the update, then went to make a third in order to have a recent backup before trying to flash the Ubuntu Touch Dev preview but the nandroid failed due to insufficient storage space.
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This should explain the "missing" storage. Since you made two nandroid backups and you have quite a lot of apps installed (2.89GB), this will take at least 6 GB of space.
Edit: Nandroid backups don't show on the android storage view.
andyli1985 said:
This should explain the "missing" storage. Since you made two nandroid backups and you have quite a lot of apps installed (2.89GB), this will take at least 6 GB of space.
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At the time of taking the screenshots in my first post, I only have one nandroid in order to keep a decent amount of free space. The fact that CWM is also misinterpreting the storage makes me think it's backing up all 4 locations, which means that my nandroid is stupidly big. That coupled with all apps mistaking the 3 mirror locations as actual files results in a huge loss of potential storage space as apps think the device is full when it really isn't.
I should probably also mention that Windows reports the same free/used space numbers as File Expert HD.
All your internal data lies within /data/media/
The contents within that is usually what is visible to the user on a TW ROM. Once you switch to an AOSP ROM a second partition is created in /storage/emulated/0. This is your actual internal memory. Any previous downloads or backups made before installing an AOSP ROM will be located in /data/media/ since that was it's original directory. You can still view the "0" folder in /data/media/ but all your downloads, backups, etc, will be directed to /storage/emulated/0/ by default.
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LuigiBull23 said:
All your internal data lies within /data/media/
The contents within that is usually what is visible to the user on a TW ROM. Once you switch to an AOSP ROM a second partition is created in /storage/emulated/0. This is your actual internal memory. Any previous downloads or backups made before installing an AOSP ROM will be located in /data/media/ since that was it's original directory. You can still view the "0" folder in /data/media/ but all your downloads, backups, etc, will be directed to /storage/emulated/0/ by default.
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I don't understand what you mean by a "TW ROM" but I haven't changed ROM. I unlocked the bootloader and rooted, but other than a few quick plays with Ubuntu Touch I'm still using the stock ROM (which I return to from Ubuntu via restoring a CWM nandroid). I haven't flashed any Android ROMs at all.
I didn't have the phone long before I got the 4.2.2 OTA update and I didn't check the folder structure before then, but I didn't notice any suspiciously fast drops in free space until after said update.
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At the time of taking the screenshots in my first post, I only have one nandroid in order to keep a decent amount of free space. The fact that CWM is also misinterpreting the storage makes me think it's backing up all 4 locations, which means that my nandroid is stupidly big. That coupled with all apps mistaking the 3 mirror locations as actual files results in a huge loss of potential storage space as apps think the device is full when it really isn't.
I should probably also mention that Windows reports the same free/used space numbers as File Expert HD.
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Can you use a file explorer with root access and check how big is this folder? /data/media/clockworkmod/backup
File Expert and File Expert HD both see it as a file... What app should I use?
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Install ES File Explorer, then follow the instructions on this post
Going to have to count up the folder size manually, will do it later and report back because I need to get ready for work now.
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you know that the "Real" folders are in "mnt/shell/emulated"?^^
There you also see the clockworkmod folder and check it's size.
When using the Android File Transfer app on my Mac, I saw this folder named "storage" which doesn't have much in it and so I decided to delete it, which wasn't a good choice as I found out everything in the internal storage was wiped.
Is there any chance of getting the lost files back?
Now whenever I connect my phone to Mac Android file transfer app doesn't show up the internal storage folder anymore.
Panicking.
Help!!! Anyone?
Nexus 4 on PA 3.1
It's gone now. You'll need to restore the factory image to get the internal data in order and then re-root/setup the phone
When I connect to PC in MTP mode i can see first "Internal Storage" then when i click, I can see my folders and files in somewhat my "SD card". But there are specifc files that doesnt show up like for the App Backup Restore, wherein all the backedup apps are stored, I could not see it when I open this folder. But when I use ES explorer in my phone, the backed up app files exist. Why is this so?
One more thing, I am still quite confused on the folder and file configuration of our nexy. It seems the folders "storage\emulated\0\", the "storage\sdcard0\" and the "\sdcard\" are all the same in content (i think). Can you explain how it works? Is it just like mirrors of the same sd card folder? if so, then which is the real one? Im confused.
One last thing, when you say "Internal Storage" or files in the "Internal Storage", does it refer to the phone system memory (is this also the "\storage\" ?) or the internal sd card?
Sorry for being a newbie..
One of the reasons why Im asking about the missing files is because I was hoping to transfer these APP backups to my PC because when I make factory reset or wiping in preparation for installing PA ROM, it might also delete the files in my SD card folder (or will it not)?
So I hope you could explain how I could see these files. All drivers were installed and PC communication is working well. Im just lost now how come I could not see this files wherein in the ES file explorer the files exists in that folder.
When you wipe to flash PA rom just factory reset, wipe cache, dalvik cache and system in advance wipe in twrp's wipe menu. That's all you need to do to make that switch to pa ROM. If you do not wipe data then you're fine. Everything in your internal storage will still be intact.
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If you are talking about the files that you see when you enable show hidden files on ES file explorer, then you would need to do the same on the PC. Also, if these files are an extension that the PC does not recognize, maybe it is possible that it will not display them thru MTP.
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I have recently flashed Clockworkmod Recovery on my Galaxy S4 (GT-I9500). I performed a nandroid backup which works just fine since I've been able to use it to restore my stock ROM. However, the phone seems to know where to fetch the backup but I can't locate it personally on the phone either through the PC or using file managers on the device like Root Explorer and Solid Explorer. I even used Solid Edxplorer to change permissions so that I could see all hidden files. Still, all I saw was a 35 byte file named .recovery_version located in /sdcard/clockworkmod with these permissions: rw-rw-r-- and from what I see in the properties of the file it is an MD5. That is all I see. In clockworkmod recovery, the backup is quoted to be in /sdcard/clockworkmod/backup. I can't see that file on my device. Why aren't I seeing this nandroid backup of mine yet it is in the internal storage? I want to move it from my ohone to PC to free up space since it occupies around 3 GB of the precious storage (you all know the storage issues the GS4 is facing don't you?). Help please.
echenze said:
I have recently flashed Clockworkmod Recovery on my Galaxy S4 (GT-I9500). I performed a nandroid backup which works just fine since I've been able to use it to restore my stock ROM. However, the phone seems to know where to fetch the backup but I can't locate it personally on the phone either through the PC or using file managers on the device like Root Explorer and Solid Explorer. I even used Solid Edxplorer to change permissions so that I could see all hidden files. Still, all I saw was a 35 byte file named .recovery_version located in /sdcard/clockworkmod with these permissions: rw-rw-r-- and from what I see in the properties of the file it is an MD5. That is all I see. In clockworkmod recovery, the backup is quoted to be in /sdcard/clockworkmod/backup. I can't see that file on my device. Why aren't I seeing this nandroid backup of mine yet it is in the internal storage? I want to move it from my ohone to PC to free up space since it occupies around 3 GB of the precious storage (you all know the storage issues the GS4 is facing don't you?). Help please.
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your backup is located in Data/Media/clockworckmod
use es explorer, enable root, move clockworckmod folder to sd card then to your pc
or use adb command to pull it to your pc
re: backup files
echenze said:
I have recently flashed Clockworkmod Recovery on my Galaxy S4 (GT-I9500). I performed a nandroid backup which works just fine since I've been able to use it to restore my stock ROM. However, the phone seems to know where to fetch the backup but I can't locate it personally on the phone either through the PC or using file managers on the device like Root Explorer and Solid Explorer. I even used Solid Edxplorer to change permissions so that I could see all hidden files. Still, all I saw was a 35 byte file named .recovery_version located in /sdcard/clockworkmod with these permissions: rw-rw-r-- and from what I see in the properties of the file it is an MD5. That is all I see. In clockworkmod recovery, the backup is quoted to be in /sdcard/clockworkmod/backup. I can't see that file on my device. Why aren't I seeing this nandroid backup of mine yet it is in the internal storage? I want to move it from my ohone to PC to free up space since it occupies around 3 GB of the precious storage (you all know the storage issues the GS4 is facing don't you?). Help please.
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If you cannot see or find it in your /sdcard internal, look in your external sdcard /clockworkmod
folder and sub directories in that folder.
The backups are either in internal or external sdcard /clockworkmod and it's sub-directories
Good luck,
Thanks, I found it using root Explorer in the directories you directed me to. Good day mate
samersh72 said:
your backup is located in Data/Media/clockworckmod
use es explorer, enable root, move clockworckmod folder to sd card then to your pc
or use adb command to pull it to your pc
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samersh72 said:
your backup is located in Data/Media/clockworckmod
use es explorer, enable root, move clockworckmod folder to sd card then to your pc
or use adb command to pull it to your pc
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Really appreciate this. Was looking around and noticed my phone storage was fairly low, and couldn't find my stock backup to save my life. Googled this and it brought it right up! Again, thanks! Was fixing to make another backup of my current setup and realized I didn't have enough room lol.
Billy
samersh72 said:
your backup is located in Data/Media/clockworckmod
use es explorer, enable root, move clockworckmod folder to sd card then to your pc
or use adb command to pull it to your pc
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Thanks.
I had similar issue.
Your advice resolved it for me as it was exactly where you pointed.
I go about it a bit differently. Under settings in CWMR you can change the backup location to the external sdcard. Do your backup, connect your phone to the pc and copy it off like any other file. The only downside is you need the available space on your card.
apel69 said:
I go about it a bit differently. Under settings in CWMR you can change the backup location to the external sdcard. Do your backup, connect your phone to the pc and copy it off like any other file. The only downside is you need the available space on your card.
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Until you are on the road and need that backup because you got a bad dl. Unless you keep a zip drive on you.. Which is actually a good idea. I switched over to twrp so I can save it to extsd.
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Brain fart. I meant to say I change the settings in ROM Manager not CWMR.
I think we are talking about doing the same thing but with different apps. I change the location setting in ROM Manager which I use for my backups and it automatically saves the backup to the extsd instead of the device. I then copy it to my pc but always maintain the latest backup on my extsd in case I need it wherever I am. Done and done. No annoying copying from device to extsd to pc or using download server or an adb pull needed.
It's personal preference to use ROM Manager with CWMR or TWRP. It doesn't matter to me. I started off using clockworkmod's apps some time ago and am happy with them. I just moved to 4.2.2 and noticed how ROM Manager handles the backups differently and the number of questions regarding how to get them off their phone. This is my solution and how I have always done it.
Worked on Samsung Galaxy S Duos GT 7562. Thanks!
Don't have the S4, but after googling this, well, THANKS!!!
open your es explorer and active it'a rooting option in slide panel or use root expkorer then go to this path
mnt//shell/emulated/clockworkmod/backup/ you will fine a folder named this date and time thats your backup folder copy it into your mobile storage .... done the n copy or move it in to your pc like normaly file ...
Why is this all the sudden not put on the sdcard? Privacy? Anyway to change recovery to sdcard/clockworkmod/backup?
I used the adb pull command to pull from phone mnt//shell/emulated/clockworkmod/backup
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In Android 4.2+ backups are placed in secure directory, inaccessible to other apps. Backups can be pulled with adb or by using the ROM Manager Backup Download Server.
Heads up
thanks, i was also looking for the backup location as i dont have an external card, thanks.
Jnewell05 said:
In Android 4.2+ backups are placed in secure directory, inaccessible to other apps. Backups can be pulled with adb or by using the ROM Manager Backup Download Server.
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Ehm, no. Running 4.4.2 and still the back-ups are located in the directories talked about above. Easily accessible by all file manager apps.
Never been any other way as well.
found the backup dir
my portion of a backup was under CWM and backups found deleted using sd card:good:
Having trouble finding backups on Nexus4
I have the same problem....
The backup was made through the CWM in recovery mode...
The MD5 checksum gave an error..I am trying to fix it so I need access to the files.
I can see the backup folders in recovery mode but cant find them with any file explorer nor did they show with adb pulling sdcard...
Any ideas??
helsoommoosleh said:
open your es explorer and active it'a rooting option in slide panel or use root expkorer then go to this path
mnt//shell/emulated/clockworkmod/backup/ you will fine a folder named this date and time thats your backup folder copy it into your mobile storage
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Thank you sir a lot.
I would pray CWM devs, and all the other app devs like Dolphin, Whatsapp etc to please print the path once the backup is done. This will save us a bunch of time!
THANKS
samersh72 said:
your backup is located in Data/Media/clockworckmod
use es explorer, enable root, move clockworckmod folder to sd card then to your pc
or use adb command to pull it to your pc
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Hi, Thanks a lot I am new to using SONY devices as I have used SAMSUNG and HTC ones before. Your direction pointed me to the right path and I was able to move it to the PC afterwards.
I really appreciate your help.
Bye