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What Android 3.1 DIDN'T Fix!

Still no sdcard slot!
Still no USB On-The-Go memory device support (we have USB joystick support but still no memory devices)
I haven't tried abusing the Camera Connection Kit yet to see if I can use a camera as a memory card reader.

scotty1024 said:
Still no sdcard slot!
Still no USB On-The-Go memory device support (we have USB joystick support but still no memory devices)
I haven't tried abusing the Camera Connection Kit yet to see if I can use a camera as a memory card reader.
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The SD card is a motorola issue, not a google issue. This has been pointed out in many, many forums.

what about Linux connection via usb. Can anyone confirm if this has been fixed?

vBulletin typing (like XDA) still sucks.

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what about Linux connection via usb. Can anyone confirm if this has been fixed?
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It's never been a problem. 3.x and higher use MTP so they can stop using FAT32 for internal storage. Linux does MTP just fine. What are you talking about?

jdclucidly said:
It's never been a problem. 3.x and higher use MTP so they can stop using FAT32 for internal storage. Linux does MTP just fine. What are you talking about?
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why was this method needed? Xoom will not show up as a drive, unless you do this. Where as with the Droid X, once plugged in, it showed up as a drive. I hope this makes sense.

timrock said:
why was this method needed? Xoom will not show up as a drive, unless you do this. Where as with the Droid X, once plugged in, it showed up as a drive. I hope this makes sense.
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USB Mass Storage is the old method and it shows up as a drive. The Droid X is older than the Xoom therefore it is using USB Mass Storage.
MTP is Media Transfer Protocol and is the method used by 3.0 and higher.
How is it that you're using Linux and you don't understand this stuff?

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USB Mass Storage is the old method and it shows up as a drive. The Droid X is older than the Xoom therefore it is using USB Mass Storage.
MTP is Media Transfer Protocol and is the method used by 3.0 and higher.
How is it that you're using Linux and you don't understand this stuff?
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really? you cant just answer the question? maybe im new to linux. maybe im dual booting. If you dont want to answer, don't. No need to for the rude responses.

slack04 said:
The SD card is a motorola issue, not a google issue. This has been pointed out in many, many forums.
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Hmmm, from Android Honeycomb 3.1 Details ...
...Android 3.1 still isn’t intended, at the operating system level, for managing external storage devices. This detail, which came out in conversations I had with Google engineers today, explains why the Android file system organization is, well, a mess...
“We don’t want to expose the user to file locations,” explained Hiroshi Lockheimer, director of engineering at Google. “How do you manage that as a user? The not-good answer is with the file browser.” Lockheimer says that many of the experiences I’ve seen so far are what individual hardware manufacturers have enabled, as opposed to what Google has provided natively. The good thing is that Lockheimer says Google is looking at ways to do this; but the problem hasn’t been solved yet...
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I still dont understand why they havent added (or, in fact, have removed) the "clear all" button in notifications. If I download more than 2 files it really annoys me. (I'm OCD about unchecked notifications)

timrock said:
really? you cant just answer the question? maybe im new to linux. maybe im dual booting. If you dont want to answer, don't. No need to for the rude responses.
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He did answer you. The xoom uses mtp which will not show up as a drive in Linux unlike older android which used mass storage. Mtp allows you to add files with out having to unmount the file system on the xoom. There are many threads on how to set mtp up. If you're new to Linux it may seem hard to do but its simple. Do a Google search for mounting xoom Ubuntu and you should find them easy.

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He did answer you. The xoom uses mtp which will not show up as a drive in Linux unlike older android which used mass storage. Mtp allows you to add files with out having to unmount the file system on the xoom. There are many threads on how to set mtp up. If you're new to Linux it may seem hard to do but its simple. Do a Google search for mounting xoom Ubuntu and you should find them easy.
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Thank you. And i meant answer without the snide remark. Thanks again for explaining.
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i know just what you mean, however i quite enjoy having the (X)s to click to get rid of them. I would like to see a slide to delete in the notifications aswell

Dubar said:
I still dont understand why they havent added (or, in fact, have removed) the "clear all" button in notifications. If I download more than 2 files it really annoys me. (I'm OCD about unchecked notifications)
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totally agree. there are lots of things i understand why they're waiting, but this? come on. i could clear all on my phone.

I just want to clear up a misconception about MTP. It is not a cross platform solution for transferring files.
My post from another thread on the subject:
I can mount my Xoom in linux using libmtp and mtpfs, however, it's slow, kludgy, and generally feels like it will flake out at any moment. Additionally, even when it's mounted, I can't seem to copy music across properly; it doesn't keep the folder structure. In fact, the directories are created and any non audio files are copied across fine, but every mp3/audio file is flatly dropped into the Music directory.
I tried to copy some music onto it from my fiancee's windows xp laptop and it worked ok (though the album art didn't appear).
The move away from mass storage to MTP is a massive disappointment for me. Mass storage has always been a big selling point for me when purchasing a device and for Google to switch to using a Windows specific protocol and consider it cross platform is a big letdown. MTP on mac requires a special app and on linux, support is dire, certainly for anything more complex than simply pulling images from a camera.
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I can just about get files onto the xoom, but I can't load music onto it; all of my mp3s just land up in the top level of the Music directory, regardless of how I attempt to transfer the files. I think transferring a zip file of the music and unzipping from within a file manager on the xoom might do the trick, but this isn't a good, workable solution. I understand the reasoning behind MTP, but it most certainly isn't cross platform and shouldn't be mentioned as a working solution by Google.
Hopefully people will soon realise not to keep insisting that the xoom has linux support when using MTP.

New update for drag racing is really choppy, lile playing angry birds on a g1.... but samauri II and the other thd games run smooth...dont kmow if its 3.1 kernel cuz it plays fine on my mytouch4g
XOOM

slack04 said:
The SD card is a motorola issue, not a google issue. This has been pointed out in many, many forums.
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If that is a motorola problem and xoom is a barebone system. Who's gonna fix it, how?

stevebakh said:
I just want to clear up a misconception about MTP. It is not a cross platform solution for transferring files.
My post from another thread on the subject:
I can just about get files onto the xoom, but I can't load music onto it; all of my mp3s just land up in the top level of the Music directory, regardless of how I attempt to transfer the files. I think transferring a zip file of the music and unzipping from within a file manager on the xoom might do the trick, but this isn't a good, workable solution. I understand the reasoning behind MTP, but it most certainly isn't cross platform and shouldn't be mentioned as a working solution by Google.
Hopefully people will soon realise not to keep insisting that the xoom has linux support when using MTP.
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Change all the extension names in the song file name to .mp and it will allow the transfer
Then use something of your liking, I use astro file manager, and just add the 3 on the a tail end of the extension.
Its a b, but you can at least get a couple good songs on there.

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I just want to clear up a misconception about MTP. It is not a cross platform solution for transferring files.
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You're right, it's a cross-platform solution for transferring MEDIA, being the Media Transfer Protocol.
It's smart enough to detect the media files that it supports and put them in the right place. I prefer it over the old way, I hated having to unmount the sdcard every single time.
A poorly made Linux MTP library doesn't make it not cross-platform. It's an open standard for transferring media to USB devices.
It's not perfect, but it's great for a device like the Xoom where unmounting the internal memory is not desirable.
Honestly users get really confused by all of the extra directories when mounting an android sd-card anyways.

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The SD card is a motorola issue, not a google issue. This has been pointed out in many, many forums.
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Actually, it has been a big debate on rather it is Google's or Moto's issue, but I am sure that we all can agree that it needs to be fixed no mater whos issue it is.

File transfer options (USB and WiFi)

This is a list of all the options I tried (in chronological order) to solve my file transfer issues with the Galaxy Tab 10.1. The last option is the most stable one and until either Samsung or Android give us something usable I'll keep using it. Its a WiFi solution, so its slow in comparison to a USB solution.
Kies Software: Simply does not work for me since it requieres the USB drivers to be installed and for some reason they will not install correctly in my laptop.
Kies via Wi-Fi (Settings/Wireless and networks/Kies via Wi-Fi, it requires the Kies software): It says that the SIM card was not detected... There's obviously something really wrong with that Kies app because I have a WiFi only tablet...
Kies App: Basically creates a server in your tab that you can access through your browser. It works but if you need to transfer several GB's of music files organized in folders... you're going to have issues with it... Plus its really unstable.
SwiFTP FTP Server: Basically creates an FTP server in your tablet that give you access to the whole disk. It works with any FTP client in your computer. I use FileZilla. Its realy stable and you can simply drag and drop all your files to your FTP client. Also, it doesnt interfere with the use of the table. So you can use it while the files transfer. There's more options for FTP servers in the market but this one works, so why bother...
I hope this thread help you guys!

joseamirandavelez said:
This is a list of all the options I tried (in chronological order) to solve my file transfer issues with the Galaxy Tab 10.1. The last option is the most stable one and until either Samsung or Android give us something usable I'll keep using it. Its a WiFi solution, so its slow in comparison to a USB solution.
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I hope this thread help you guys!
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Try installing "samsung_usb_driverP4" .

I transfer filesnto and from my tab using the android sdk enviroment and the tab in debug mode. Once the sdk is installed it's just as easy as your phone though usb mass storage.

jolobe said:
Try installing "samsung_usb_driverP4" .
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I'll check that out. Thanks!
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lexvandoef said:
I transfer filesnto and from my tab using the android sdk enviroment and the tab in debug mode. Once the sdk is installed it's just as easy as your phone though usb mass storage.
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I tried looking for that but only found a thread on a script that seemed really complicated... Can you please post a link? Thanks!
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jolobe said:
Try installing "samsung_usb_driverP4" .
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Actually, I could not find it... What's P4?

It took the whole day to transfer all my music collection.... I'm not happy. I really need to fix this usb connectivity issue.
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If you have rooted your Tab, there is a free app that is so simple a US Congressman could us it. Check out Samba Filesharing. It makes your Tab's SD drive show up as a wireless device on Windows computers. It is fast and easy as drag and drop.
Bob

wifi file explorer pro.
I haven't used my USB cable for transfers since I got this program in August. Dev is awesome, will help those that need it, and he updates the program with new features about once a week. Best 99c on the Market.

Another option is Airdroid. Search for it in the Market.

I know theres a lot of options in the market, but I want to fix the usb issue. My music collection is about 5GB. It took the whole day to copy over WiFi... I'm contemplating re-installing Windows... which is a huge PITA...

use google music on your computer it will sync 20000 songs

FileExpert does this and much more
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Here is what I did to get usb driver to work on 10.1, including debugging mode:
1) First go here to install the drivers without the SDK.
2) Then go here to install the Samsung Drivers.

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Actually, I could not find it... What's P4?
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http://dl.dropbox.com/u/45601975/Samsung_USB_Driver_P4_Including_Escape.exe
This is the one i use and it works for me :had also problems with a regular usb stick ,wasn't recognized but after installing the samsungdrivers my pc recognizes my tab 10.1 and usb stick aswell.

had similar problems and removed KIES and installed Airdroid on my tablet and works great!

kies air is not an option when you have to transfer more than a couple of files.
I only found the option to transfer one at a t ime through the web interface.
so it is extremely time consuming to do 1 at a time...
The best option i found so far, was the como with the adaptor for usb sticks and flash cards.
I got it on ebay for about 25$ and i been using it all the time since then.
It is VERY fast (depending on your usb stick as well) but with a trancent stick, i get about 10~15 secs for 1GB of mp3s.
So far it is the best way i found to transfer files.
P.S. I believe it is a lot faster than using the cable usb connection with the included charge/data cable.

Zargon335 said:
Another option is Airdroid. Search for it in the Market.
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All the options u presented are great, but I was looking for a way to share files with my PC via Windows Explorer, i.e., transfer files from/to my tablet via samba file share. Does anyone knows any way to?

rexxxlo said:
use google music on your computer it will sync 20000 songs
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The overhead is just too much. Fist you need to upload all your songs and then you need to download them to your phone... Unless you have a reliable 3G or 4G connection, which I don't have...

marceloid said:
All the options u presented are great, but I was looking for a way to share files with my PC via Windows Explorer, i.e., transfer files from/to my tablet via samba file share. Does anyone knows any way to?
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A guy posted a market app called Samba Filesharing...

Android File Transfer GS3

Was wondering about everyone's thoughts about this new feature. Personally I think it's crap. I can't view/read ANY files from the sd cards unless I FIRST transfer them to my mac...GAY! Why can't we just mount the SD cards like the GS2???

Can you please explain because I'm having this issue managing files from the sd
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20blks said:
Can you please explain because I'm having this issue managing files from the sd
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Basically, the mac tells me I have to transfer a file to the mac to view it....which sucks. With phones like the Galaxy S2, I was able to plug in and mount the sd cards and it would act like any other USB mass storage external memory drive.

I'm not quite understanding what you mean by "mac". This issue is KILLING me. I can't even find my sd card unless I use the built I file manager
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hapary said:
Basically, the mac tells me I have to transfer a file to the mac to view it....which sucks. With phones like the Galaxy S2, I was able to plug in and mount the sd cards and it would act like any other USB mass storage external memory drive.
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It's due to the way that Ice Cream Sandwich handles the Memory. It's always live in the system. The only way to access the Memory is through MTP. There is an advantage of using such because it means that if your phone is formatted ext4 (speed increases if I am not mistaken) you can take advantage of that and still access the data. Both Windows and Linux support MTP, unfortunately Apple has not implemented such even though devices are starting to use MTP more these days.
For Further reading go here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Transfer_Protocol
From reading the site, there is a 3rd party implementation, not sure how up to date it is, but you might be able to make it work.
http://www.wentnet.com/projects/xnjb/ check that out to see if you can enable MTP on your mac which would reduce the need for Android File Transfer.
Also it has been a while since I have used Mac but you might be able to use these instructions to install a Ubuntu supported MTP software on your mac through X11 (allows you to run linux software on your mac) http://www.humans-enabled.com/2011/12/how-to-fix-samsung-galaxy-nexus-mtp.html
One final link.... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1355913

Thanks very much. I'm looking into it now

Ok.. I am using the Android File Transfer program and I can copy individual files to/from my GS3 BUT I cannot create folders for some reason. Even with the +Folder button. The error message reads: "Could not create folder. Try reconnecting or restarting your device." (Obviously I have done both multiple times.
Any thoughts?

on my PC it shows up as a portable media device and allows me to access both internal and SD memory
i did install the galaxy s3 drivers found on the rooting guides though

Can't transfer files with a Mac
M988 said:
on my PC it shows up as a portable media device and allows me to access both internal and SD memory
i did install the galaxy s3 drivers found on the rooting guides though
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I can't get Android File Transfer to work with my Galaxy S3 running CM9 (or CM10, for that matter), either using MTP or using the camera setting. This is really annoying. Anyone know of a way to get it to work? I really wish that USB mounting still worked, so I wouldn't be required to use client software.

It works fine on my mac at work and I have a 5 year old macbook pro. It's not all that bad. I just use it to transfer files when I'm at work.
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hapary said:
I can't view/read ANY files from the sd cards unless I FIRST transfer them to my mac...GAY!
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so it's perfectly acceptable and deserving of equal rights?

ergibson83 said:
It works fine on my mac at work and I have a 5 year old macbook pro. It's not all that bad. I just use it to transfer files when I'm at work.
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Well, it doesn't work for mine at all. Any tips? Did you have to anything to get it to work? Which ROM are you using?

Batmensch said:
Well, it doesn't work for mine at all. Any tips? Did you have to anything to get it to work? Which ROM are you using?
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All I did was install the app and it popped up a window that displayed sdcard and phone. Each option displays a list of the content on that storage device.
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I can't copy files onto my phone or my sd card.

The usb options only show Media Device and Camera. When I had my Samsung Exhilarate it gave me the option to mount the phone so I could move files around, but this isn't letting me and I haven't found a way to do it yet.

Mr Fluffy said:
The usb options only show Media Device and Camera. When I had my Samsung Exhilarate it gave me the option to mount the phone so I could move files around, but this isn't letting me and I haven't found a way to do it yet.
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Setting it to camera mode will allow it to be detected as a Storage device so you can then see the drive and move the files around.

msherman123 said:
Setting it to camera mode will allow it to be detected as a Storage device so you can then see the drive and move the files around.
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Thank you greatly for this. I wasn't sure how it worked. The setup is a bit different than my other android phones I've had.

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Setting it to camera mode will allow it to be detected as a Storage device so you can then see the drive and move the files around.
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Scratch that, I still can't move or copy things.

Only MTP and PTP Why no UMC?

Hi All. I completely hate the MTP and PTP feature. The connection is always laggy and I battle to transfer files across in any mode. Is there a way to get to UMC (Mass Storage) only? I have been trying to copy over a videos and it states 1 hour to copy a 700MB video. I mean WTF? I just re-installed W7 so it can't be the PC.
When I try to add files to it. The MTP just disappears and then the files stop transferring. This is very annoying.

protonpower said:
Hi All. I completely hate the MTP and PTP feature. The connection is always laggy and I battle to transfer files across in any mode. Is there a way to get to UMC (Mass Storage) only? I have been trying to copy over a videos and it states 1 hour to copy a 700MB video. I mean WTF? I just re-installed W7 so it can't be the PC.
When I try to add files to it. The MTP just disappears and then the files stop transferring. This is very annoying.
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I always use airdroid (from the play store) to transfer files...no cable involved, and it tends to go just as fast or faster in my experience. It's also really easy to use from any computer (no special software on the client is required, just a web browser)

wdouglass said:
I always use airdroid (from the play store) to transfer files...no cable involved, and it tends to go just as fast or faster in my experience. It's also really easy to use from any computer (no special software on the client is required, just a web browser)
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OMG AirDroid is amazing. Thanks...

No way airdroid is faster than a usb3 connection. Anyone would like to compete? Let's test a 100mb file transfer and see who wins.

akira02rex said:
No way airdroid is faster than a usb3 connection. Anyone would like to compete? Let's test a 100mb file transfer and see who wins.
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Alas, I made that statement without revealing that I have only USB2.0 ports on my computer...

Since ICS, Android has removed UMC mode from the phones. It's really annoying since I would love to mount the drives, but alas, haven't figured out a way to do it. Maybe ADB?

flucks said:
Since ICS, Android has removed UMC mode from the phones. It's really annoying since I would love to mount the drives, but alas, haven't figured out a way to do it. Maybe ADB?
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I've enable debugging but it still puts it in MTP mode.
I'm trying to run motochopper but it won't work for some reason.
I tried installing the drivers unfortunately i'm not the computer admin so i can't.. any other workarounds?

kylecore said:
I've enable debugging but it still puts it in MTP mode.
I'm trying to run motochopper but it won't work for some reason.
I tried installing the drivers unfortunately i'm not the computer admin so i can't.. any other workarounds?
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The only way I can think of is to do it on a computer/account that does have admin rights, unfortunately

mcmb03 said:
The only way I can think of is to do it on a computer/account that does have admin rights, unfortunately
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And theres still only MTP mode now instead of MSC huh?

kylecore said:
And theres still only MTP mode now instead of MSC huh?
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yep :/

mcmb03 said:
yep :/
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Well thats unfortunate.
Can't wait for custom ROMS to change that lol