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Hey guys i have a brand new nexus 7 in my hand right now, I'm enjoying it I was planning on keeping the ROM stock but flashing a kernel capable of overclocking. What would you guys recommend as the most effective rooting method here? And the best kernel for oc'ing?
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Jaydizzle414 said:
Hey guys i have a brand new nexus 7 in my hand right now, I'm enjoying it I was planning on keeping the ROM stock but flashing a kernel capable of overclocking. What would you guys recommend as the most effective rooting method here? And the best kernel for oc'ing?
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If you want a simple root method try the nexus 7 root toolkit. For the kernel I recommend M-Kernel, because you can oc it up to 1.9 GHz.
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Hey guys i have a brand new nexus 7 in my hand right now, I'm enjoying it I was planning on keeping the ROM stock but flashing a kernel capable of overclocking. What would you guys recommend as the most effective rooting method here? And the best kernel for oc'ing?
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Nexus Root Toolkit is simple to use and guides you (very well) through everything including drivers, etc.
http://www.wugfresh.com/
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Nexus Root Toolkit is simple to use and guides you (very well) through everything including drivers, etc.
http://www.wugfresh.com/
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+1, use wug's root toolkit, just follow instruction carefully.
Fastboot, period. Learning the simple commands of fastboot can save huge amounts of trouble later. It is actually simpler and more effective than any rootkit.
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Thread closed for two reasons. Firstly we don't allow 'what's the best' threads. Try them and see. Second be clear in your title
Hello everyone!
I am planning to buy a nexus 4 as soon as it is back in stock. I currently have a gs2 and I realized that it has some amazing Dev support. Most of my phones have been Samsung, so I am most familiar with their development. What I mean is the Odin is an easy one click solution to most problems, and there is even mobile Odin so I can flash on the go!
It is quite amazing, I just flashed a stock ROM to get a GPS lock then back to cm10.1 with no issue, without a computer. These things have saved me on multiple occasions.
My question is, is the development here as advanced or more advanced? Are there tools that easily allow you to root, back up, restore, and flash your phone?
I have a nexus 7 and there is a tool that does that for PC, is it compatible with the 4? And is there anyway to do that on the phone?
My biggest concern is getting in over my head. I recently tried the galaxy s 3 and thought I knew what I was doing, but there was a surprising lack of development there, and returning to stock took me hours and many Google searches. Want to make sure the process is simpler here before I start messing with my new nexus 4. I am never worried about breaking my gs2. But on my nexus 7 I have left it as stock rooted because I didn't want to venture too far into unknown territory.
Thank you all for any answers.
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I think I answered my own question. I guess my question is: to those of you that have had Samsung phones and used Odin. Do you feel as supported and prepared as you did with those great tools?
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Censura_Umbra said:
I think I answered my own question. I guess my question is: to those of you that have had Samsung phones and used Odin. Do you feel as supported and prepared as you did with those great tools?
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I hate Odin. Give me fastboot and stock .img files and I'm "supported and prepared."
Also, before tackling a device, ALWAYS know how to fix a bootloop/soft brick. The fact that you're asking tells me you haven't read enough. No offense.
Please read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1469909
Edit. Fixed link.
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estallings15 said:
I hate Odin. Give me fastboot and stock .img files and I'm "supported and prepared."
Also, before tackling a device, ALWAYS know how to fix a bootloop/soft brick. The fact that you're asking tells me you haven't read enough. No offense.
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None taken. You are right. I have repaired all types of Samsung devices both hardware and software but this is my first nexus phone. Thank you for the answer though.
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El Daddy said:
Please read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1619716
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Thanks but that thread was about a dock.
I know how to use the nexus tool but I would like to know how I fix it by myself with the IMG for. Anyone that can point me to a thread about this?
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Thanks but that thread was about a dock.
I know how to use the nexus tool but I would like to know how I fix it by myself with the IMG for. Anyone that can point me to a thread about this?
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My bad. I copied the wrong link. It has been fixed.
I am strongly against toolkits and the link I have corrected in my previous post explains why.
I'd suggest you read efrant's nexus 4 101 guide here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2010338
Also check out jubakuba's guide sticked in the Q&A section. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2018179
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Used Odin on my T999,i9100/i9300, as well as i747.. It is nowhere near as simple as fastboot. Odin is great, sure but fastboot is much cleaner and much less can go wrong.
You started off on the right foot by asking and making this thread instead of just blindly flashing, so props. The two others that have responded are by far my favorites in the N4 forums simply because they know what they are talking about and respond much more than I do
Make sure you learn your fastboot commands and you will be able to recovery from bad flashes, etc easily and in a matter of minutes.
Also, the toolkit should only be used AFTER you are familiar with commands - and lastly it no longer links to stock images but a few members here have them on their personal dropbox accounts. I recommend downloading those so you have them handy.
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+1 on fastboot commands.
Know those commands and invest some of your time learning at least the basics. It will get you out of sticky situations. Not just for N4 but for future Android devices you'll own. Avoid root kits or at least until you know the concept behind how it does its thing.
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joshnichols189 said:
Used Odin on my T999,i9100/i9300, as well as i747.. It is nowhere near as simple as fastboot. Odin is great, sure but fastboot is much cleaner and much less can go wrong.
You started off on the right foot by asking and making this thread instead of just blindly flashing, so props. The two others that have responded are by far my favorites in the N4 forums simply because they know what they are talking about and respond much more than I do
Make sure you learn your fastboot commands and you will be able to recovery from bad flashes, etc easily and in a matter of minutes.
Also, the toolkit should only be used AFTER you are familiar with commands - and lastly it no longer links to stock images but a few members here have them on their personal dropbox accounts. I recommend downloading those so you have them handy.
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Well said!
I keep the stock .img files, as well as the drivers and adb folder (including fastboot) in my drop box so that I can access them from any computer in a pinch.
Thanks to undercover for that!
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Thanks but that thread was about a dock.
I know how to use the nexus tool but I would like to know how I fix it by myself with the IMG for. Anyone that can point me to a thread about this?
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Yay someone who doesn't want to use a toolkit. :sly:
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Toolkits are great for quick fixes or more advanced things (like flashing without increasing the flash counter) but I always worry that maybe the version I have is out of date. I've used fast boot commands in the post. But they have always fine with detailed instructions in a preset folder. The more I know about android the better.
Thanks for all of the help and the reading materials
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So I read the post about toolkits and I agree. But I have unbricked my phone using ADB before. And I think a toolkit like the nexus toolkit is useful because it has so many processes in one place. Easy and quick repairs for the flashaholic on the run. Though I will be rooting and installing cwm manually. I will probably use the nexus toolkit for its many easy to access features that have saved my nexus 7.
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Toolkits are great for quick fixes or more advanced things (like flashing without increasing the flash counter) but I always worry that maybe the version I have is out of date. I've used fast boot commands in the post. But they have always fine with detailed instructions in a preset folder. The more I know about android the better.
Thanks for all of the help and the reading materials
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Just so you know, there is no flash counter to worry about here.
Also, this business about lots of things in one place is interesting, as there isn't much to have. Throw everything you need on drop box and you'll always have it. Your recovery img, bootloader.img, system.img, boot.img, adb/fastboot driver, etc. Then you're golden.
I think you're used to things being more complicated. Welcome to the world of Nexus.
This phone does have a dedicated "download mode," just like Samsung phones. A LG tool is probably out there somewhere. Is it public though?
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Just so you know, there is no flash counter to worry about here.
Also, this business about lots of things in one place is interesting, as there isn't much to have. Throw everything you need on drop box and you'll always have it. Your recovery img, bootloader.img, system.img, boot.img, adb/fastboot driver, etc. Then you're golden.
I think you're used to things being more complicated. Welcome to the world of Nexus.
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I meant on other devices.
Also the toolkit has cwm injection, temp cwm, and about 20 other options. That is what I meant by fast and east
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I meant on other devices.
Also the toolkit has cwm injection, temp cwm, and about 20 other options. That is what I meant by fast and east
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Yes it has all of those options but you don't even need 90% of them after you initially unlock the bootloader and root the phone
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Idk. They were pretty useful when my wife bricked her nexus
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Idk. They were pretty useful when my wife bricked her nexus
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And are also a big part of the reason 50 bazillion threads asking "How do I unbrick my Nexus?" exist. Using a toolkit helps you postpone getting comfortable with fastboot and keeping the necessary files handy.
We can go back and forth on this for the rest of our lives. Do it whatever way works for you. I'm done.
Another good thing about the toolkit is that you don't have to download 20 different things. CWM, SuperSU, drivers...it is a one stop shop.
So all right, I thought that when a newer version of Android came out and I am for example on CM10.1, I can update the android version and ROM by flashing a new bootloader and baseband, then flash the ROM and Gapps you want.
But today I read about someone who didn't accomplish to install a 4.2.2 ROM when he was on 4.2.1 so he installed factory image.
Can someone now please tell me what you need to do, so I am prepared when KLP arrives.
Thanks in advance!
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Please search. There are a gazillion amount of the same post laying around here. It would help you and others.
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Please search. There are a gazillion amount of the same post laying around here. It would help you and others.
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I know but everyone says different things...
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I know but everyone says different things...
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2145848
[INFO] Nexus OTA Help-Desk
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So all right, I thought that when a newer version of Android came out and I am for example on CM10.1, I can update the android version and ROM by flashing a new bootloader and baseband, then flash the ROM and Gapps you want.
But today I read about someone who didn't accomplish to install a 4.2.2 ROM when he was on 4.2.1 so he installed factory image.
Can someone now please tell me what you need to do, so I am prepared when KLP arrives.
Thanks in advance!
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Best advice I can give you is to learn fastboot. You can download images from Google once released and manually flash each thing that you want to update. You just unzip the files and fastboot flash them to your phone.
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I think I am misunderstood.
I meant how to upgrade android version if going from a custom rom to another custom rom.
So for example CM10.1 Android 4.2.2 and going to Xenon HD Android 5.0
Thats possible right?
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Most developers list instruction on how to install from different custom roms in the install method if they differ (example post#2 in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2075444). If not, you could post in the thread of the custom rom to see if there are any special steps for that rom. I would advise reading through the first few posts of the custom rom to make double sure they didn't explain how to first.
Most developers list instruction on how to install from different custom roms in the install method if they differ (example post#2 in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2075444). If not, you could post in the thread of the custom rom to see if there are any special steps for that rom. I would advise reading through the first few posts of the custom rom to make double sure they didn't explain how to first.
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Yeah but not when a newer android version comes out.
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1. Download new factory image
2. Flash bootloader and radio
3. Flash new custom ROM
4. Done
It's not that hard really
EddyOS said:
1. Download new factory image
2. Flash bootloader and radio
3. Flash new custom ROM
4. Done
It's not that hard really
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But I do have to flash factory image in fastboot? No other ways by just using CWM?
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You don't, bootloader and radio should be enough, but you WILL need fastboot to get that bit done
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You don't, bootloader and radio should be enough, but you WILL need fastboot to get that bit done
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There is a flashable zip for that. So I can just use CWM when upgrading ROMs?
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I personally prefer to use fastboot but if there is a ZIP then you could try that...
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I personally prefer to use fastboot but if there is a ZIP then you could try that...
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Why do you prefer that even of you install the same file? But the answer on my question is that I can install a 5.0 ROM if I just flash the new bootloader and baseband?
Thank you for helping me!
Yes, as I answered that earlier
As for why I prefer fastboot - I always like to do everything manually. I then know I'VE done things right as an updater-script in a CWM ZIP file could be wrong/corrupt. It's a safety thing. Plus, once it's done it's done so I wouldn't have to do it again unless I wanted to downgrade Android to 4.x
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Yes, as I answered that earlier
As for why I prefer fastboot - I always like to do everything manually. I then know I'VE done things right as an updater-script in a CWM ZIP file could be wrong/corrupt. It's a safety thing. Plus, once it's done it's done so I wouldn't have to do it again unless I wanted to downgrade Android to 4.x
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But with CWM you also have to flash once I think? Because you dont flash it on a ROM, but before a ROM so the baseband and bootloader will last untill you install another I think?
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Fastboot flashing is permanent - once flashed you don't have to do it again. A CWM ZIP can do the same but I, personally, DO NOT LIKE DOING IT THAT WAY. I don't know what else you want me to say?
Do what YOU want to do
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Fastboot flashing is permanent - once flashed you don't have to do it again. A CWM ZIP can do the same but I, personally, DO NOT LIKE DOING IT THAT WAY. I don't know what else you want me to say?
Do what YOU want to do
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All right. Thanks for the help.
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Just upgrade the ROM. The developer will update his ROMS as new android comes out
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aanonymoushuman said:
Just upgrade the ROM. The developer will update his ROMS as new android comes out
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Yeah but CM11 (or whatever it may be called) wont be ready as yes as Android 5.0 comes out, and I may use the stock ROM the first day it comes out, which I will flash in CWM so I wanted to know if I needed to do something else.
Never rooted before and dying to have the Google experience on my GS4. Can somebody just tell me the steps I need to know. Recommendations would be awesome!
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Step one, read beerdroids "how to" guide on root, flash, etc. Look in the general forum
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Here it is if you're too lazy to look it up:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2314494
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Step one, read beerdroids "how to" guide on root, flash, etc. Look in the general forum
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Nuff said.
these are threads that help me get thru a work day--
awesome guys. Im thinking of using casual to root
Worked fine for me
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I'm officially rooted!
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Congrats
Make nandroid NOW and put a copy on your pc
Read Read Read
I always read OP of Rom thread and first/last 20 pages before flashing--sometimes more
Yeah I backed it up on my SD card, next onto the computer. Now I need to work on cyanogenmod
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OK guys I've learned a lot in the past 12 hours. I appreciate all of the help. My question, is it easier just to download cyanogenmod on the rom manager app than downloading it thru the website?
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I would just go to the thread in the Original Development section on this forum, follow the direct link and download the latest nightly - I have experience with other devices but, after die research on here, bought my S4 this evening and had CM running ten minutes after I got home. You can do it too!
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Good deal, you graduated No seriously, download it direct from the site. This insures a good copy. Very easy setup, so go for it.
The Ax says Good luck and Good day!
Hey guys, what do you do with the AT&T over the air update? Disable?
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freeze the att updater with Titanium
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freeze the att updater with Titanium
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Now as far as any OTA updates i want/need, what is the protocol in getting them?
You can't get them on a custom rom
I forget what I read on a custom recovery and rooted--getting older--
I think you need to go back to stock--someone can confirm
I haven't Googled that yet either
There were some rootkeeper apps that were used on my other phones, don't know what works here
I never took OTA's after rooted and flashing my other phones as dev's seemed to have updates faster than my carrier
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Now as far as any OTA updates i want/need, what is the protocol in getting them?
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Generally, the newer firmware versions that get pushed out as OTA updates will be incorporated into custom Touchwiz roms, such as ShoStock and Mint Jelly. However, if you flash CyanogenMod or any other AOSP-based rom such as SlimBean or AOKP, OTA updates will be completely meaningless. It's a different world altogether.
Either way, my advice is the same: Don't mess with OTA's. At best, they could give you the same features as a custom rom. At worst, they could kill the Loki exploit and lock your bootloader for good.
Hi,
I want to overclock my tablet(using this steps http://nexus7.wonderhowto.com/how-to/nexus-7-feeling-slow-heres-you-overclock-for-insane-speeds-increased-performance-0145908/) but i want to know 2 things:
(1)Is this will avoid the warranty? if yes then how to disable/remove the over clock after use it and get back the warranty?
(2)Am i will lose all my apps/games? if yes then what is the best backup app that backup apps and locate it to PC and backup the APK/data/save?
Thanks.
1) I believe rooting does void the warranty. But it's easy to revert back to stock if necessary. The easiest method is to use one of the toolkits found in the Nexus 7 Development section.
I also suggest you don't use Motley Kernel as the link you provided shows. That kernel hasn't been updated in quite a while. I suggest M-Kernel or FrancoKernel. Both of which can be found in the Nexus 7 Original Android Development Section.
2) If you have already rooted your tablet, flashing a new kernel will not cause you to lose data. But if you have not rooted the tablet yet, the unlocking process will erase all your data. Best app for backups is Titanium Backup. But make sure you transfer the backup files to your PC because unlocking will erase your sdcard.
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veeman said:
1) I believe rooting does void the warranty.
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I think you mean Overclock instead of Rooting...?
I searched for tutorial for how to Overclock using franco kernel or m-kernel but i didn't find it can you please tell me how here or send to me the link for tutorial
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I think you mean Overclock instead of Rooting...?
I searched for tutorial for how to Overclock using franco kernel or m-kernel but i didn't find it can you please tell me how here or send to me the link for tutorial
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You'll need to root to overclock. If you're not familiar with the terms or procedures being used here then I strongly suggest reading up and searching the forums first, otherwise you could do some damage.
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-I saw tutorial for Franco kernel I tested it but I was studied on the boot animation luckily I backed up before doing that,
I tested the motley kernel and was working so good and there isn't any lag but I want to know if that maybe corrupt my tablet after long use
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I think you mean Overclock instead of Rooting...?
I searched for tutorial for how to Overclock using franco kernel or m-kernel but i didn't find it can you please tell me how here or send to me the link for tutorial
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He meant rooting, which is a prerequisite. Rooting your tablet has voided the warranty in and of itself. Overclocking is definitely outside of the scope of the warranty as you are stressing the hardware beyond its intended parameters. If you don't know what you're doing, there is the potential of permanently damaging your SoC. There's no hiding that if you choose to fraudulently make a warranty claim.
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Thanks for your comment, but I want to know what is my GPU after overclock it?
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I change to trinity kernel and I want to know what I must to do in trinity toolbox settings and I don't like this trinity boot animation I want to get back to the nexus 7 android 4.3 boot animation and I want to know the link for the stock kernel just if something wrong happened
Thanks.
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Seriously? That's just bad form.
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