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AT&T - Atrix at "end of life"

Interesting post from the Moto forums today. This makes perfect sense given the way AT&T has been going the last few months:
"posted 3:08 PM by billsite34
I was at an ATT store this morning inquiring about a laptop dock for my Atrix. They couldn't find it on their website(discontiued), then they said that the original Atrix was at "end of life" as far as ATT was concerned. I take this to mean that ATT will no longer support the Atrix and not push for ICS from Motorola for it!"
https://forums.motorola.com/posts/ae343df67e?post=ae343df67e&start=301

ugh. F motorola.
next phone won't be a motorola. sadly. don't much like any of the other phones.

Sadly I will probably go with a Samsung. If I were to get one tomorrow, it would be the Skyrocket (there's LTE here).

Yeah, I would go back to samsung (skyrocket) I had a captivate before the ATRIX.
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And just because Att will not carry it anymore you think it's the end of the Atrix?
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Eh, get used to it. Buy whatever is the best phone at the time and understand that it will be completely outdated in 6 months.
Oh, and don't buy the hype that the ATT store salesmen sell. Some of them are a little dense.

stewartsoda said:
Eh, get used to it. Buy whatever is the best phone at the time and understand that it will be completely outdated in 6 months.
Oh, and don't buy the hype that the ATT store salesmen sell. Some of them are a little dense.
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Couldn't agree more. I have a close friend who works at a corporate store and all he says is that they are told to push IPHONEs. I tell him Fkuc you my friend, and then we have drinks.

phro321 said:
Couldn't agree more. I have a close friend who works at a corporate store and all he says is that they are told to push IPHONEs. I tell him Fkuc you my friend, and then we have drinks.
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your friend better be picking up that tab...!
(for being a douche).

stewartsoda said:
Eh, get used to it. Buy whatever is the best phone at the time and understand that it will be completely outdated in 6 months.
Oh, and don't buy the hype that the ATT store salesmen sell. Some of them are a little dense.
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Its one thing for a carrier to stop selling a phone after that, but if the phone is only supported by the manufacture for 6 months, there is a serious issue. Especially given that a bar has been set for about 2 years by both Apple and Google on Nexus devices, and that 2 years is the length of the average US contract.
I think this is being read into wrong though. AT&T most likely is just no longer selling the OG model, not Motorola discontinuing support.

I have not given up on ICS yet, but I think it is unlikely to come to the Atrix 4G. I realized that when I recognized the Atrix 2 was a cost reduced version of the 4G. My theory is that MOTO marketing f'd up big time when they over priced the Atrix and accessories. The Atrix 2 was doomed because the Atrix name was damaged beyond reclamation.
I don't see any new phone presently available that is significantly better and some worse. Posts like the one that started this thread hasten the day when I say, "enough already" and install cm7/9.
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Following up on myself, I don't understand why Moto won't just say what their plans for the Atrix 4G and ICS are and take the heat and get it over with.
The guys who run the forum at moto remind me of the man who played piano in a cathouse and always claimed he never knew what was going on up stairs.
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Atrix, dead in a year. 3GS going on 3 years. Makes me sick...

BravoMotorola said:
Atrix, dead in a year. 3GS going on 3 years. Makes me sick...
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I'm a little surprised Atrix is getting dropped cause it was such a big deal when it came out. If Apple makes the iPhone 5 with a bigger screen, I'm getting it. Atleast Apple won't drop support for it. That's one of the reasons Android pisses me off. Stop making 200 different Android phones a month, and concentrate more on updates. You've got phones coming out that people forget about in a month.
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so much for a device demoed and praised at CES..
Time Line:
Q1:
CES Jan 2011: Demonstrated and Praised as one of the best devices at that CES.
Feb/March 2011: Launched
Q3:
GB update
Q4:
Still GB updates
end of Q4:
EOL
im not purchasing any moto devices on older OS anymore..
should have not purchased Froyo atrix while GB was around and shall not purchase GB Razr when ICS is around..
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I still do not regret purchase of atrix; thankful to QUALITY of dev support it is receiving. Even pre-Betas for atrix are more stable than final releases of my older devices (captivate and vibrant)
But for a general user who wouldnot think of anything beyond rooting...this is kind of abuse :-/

Guys its not MOTO. ATT has final say on all updates for its phones. Only way around it is the Icrap and A Nexus.
Once Google slows the OS updates down to once maybe twice a year like they plan it will be less of a prob
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zelendel said:
Guys its not MOTO. ATT has final say on all updates for its phones. Only way around it is the Icrap and A Nexus.
Once Google slows the OS updates down to once maybe twice a year like they plan it will be less of a prob
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ATT is not the only vendor but looking at the update history so far, it would be too late to expect ICS for atrix considering delay in GB update.

I believe the statement this guy posted is true regarding the Atrix 4G and AT&T. If you look on the AT&T website you cannot buy the laptop dock anymore on either the regular store or the premier store. AT&T previously told me that when an item is removed from there instead of being marked "out of stock", it's gone for good. AT&T is selling off Atrix accessories, and I do believe they are done with the Atrix. Will they still sell it?...............sure, until the stock is depleted.............will it still be around for a long time?.............sure............the refurbs will be going round and round for years to come.
What is perturbing is that this phone lasted a measly 6 months or so, as was already stated. Nobody disputes that phones come and go, new models are released, etc.............what is messed up is that people who purchased "the most powerful cell phone on the planet" were lied to about the specs by both AT&T and Moto, one case in point being 1080p recording which we never got, and have suffered lack luster support from both entities.
I love my Atrix, and will keep it as long as devs are putting out new ROM's, etc., but I am up for an upgrade again in less than 2 months, and will look for something with more support. Unfortunately I am stuck with AT&T for the time being because I have a family plan with 5 phones on it, and who would pay early termination on 5 phones?

This is my 4th Android phone. Like someone else said, 3gs was supported for least 3 years. I think I want to try an apple phone next. We shouldn't have to rely on outside people/unofficial support for the next version of Android.
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Deggy said:
This is my 4th Android phone. Like someone else said, 3gs was supported for least 3 years. I think I want to try an apple phone next. We shouldn't have to rely on outside people/unofficial support for the next version of Android.
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With all the law suits apple is winning, they will have the only phones anyways. Haha
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The reason they push a new product every 6 months or so is reflected on the attitudes of most android forums; never satisfied, always desiring something more from their devices. People make lateral device changes (Atrix to Moto RAZR for example) instead of upgrades because there is some level of constant dissatisfaction with their Android device. Companies such as motorola are catering to this, and making tons of money in the process. Why bother support a device for multiple years when people are willing to shell out gobs of cash for Android's 'flavor of the week'? It makes more money for the company and the carrier.
You have to remember that the carrier not the device manufacturer decides what phones make it to market. Apple was wise to keep their warranty and product support in-house, and their quality and support reflects as much. Other phone manufacturers are bent over the carriers' knee. The carrier dictates how long the phone is supported, what accessories are available, and how software updates get pushed. Apple was wise to circumvent all this BS, and look how many iPhone accessories there are in every store, how Apple pushes software updates via their own program, ultimately you get an overall better product that is supported for much longer, while still maintaining profitability.
I love Android as a product, but what an abysmal business model for an open source-based OS. The only thing that keeps me going on Android are the occasional product gems such as the Atrix and the unofficial support provided from devs around the world.
Lets face it, Android owners still look to Apple as the golden standard.

[Q] When again

Anyone knows when our beloved N4 will be available again? Any official statement besides it is sold out? Surely I am not the only did not put my order through :crying:
rumor round up, Nov 15
1, some suggest to check in on Friday, confirmed by google + and some T Mo stores
2, google backorder mail suggests to give your F5 a 3-week vacation
3, email from google support says "soon" but do not know how soon
Nov 16
1, For those who want to order from Negri (http://negrielectronics.com/lg-e960-nexus-4-16gb-unlocked-black.html#.UKYW7IdQS3E), there is a coupon code you can use: 10offsite will take $10 off. Cheers!
2, reported by some threads: today several lucky ones were told that their phones are on the way as we speak, after receiving BO mail yesterday.
3, no word on when it will be available again for the rest of us...keep waiting
4, got a word from google support that the N4 will be in stock and the price will NOT be changed. This is to respond to some rumors saying play store will not sell it for a while, so the local electronic stores (not ebay) in different countries can gain some, because some will be forced to pay higher price. Certainly hope google keeps the promise to sell us N4 soon.
5, rumor has it that India will receive N4 on Nov 30. This might suggest when the 2nd wave comes!
Nov 18
New rumor: the 2nd batch comes in a few days!
Note again, it is just a rumor from a blog: Nexus 4…weeks away? “Days” according to Play Support

No one knows. Hell, we didn't even know when the thing went on sale yesterday. It was just a feeding frenzy!

No

No.
Edit: I managed to order a 16gb 1 minute after it became available here, but I really feel bad for you, man. On the bright side, early adopters are gonna get screwed with a lot of issues. Sorry, man. Hopefully it becomes available soon.

google play store plays us
maybe then we can just decide to sleep when we are tired and not to refresh the website any chance we get.

is this the official statement from google?
from google+: https://plus.google.com/u/0/+Nexus/posts/Bxd3fySCe28
"in coming weeks"

freeintruth said:
from google+: https://plus.google.com/u/0/+Nexus/posts/Bxd3fySCe28
"in coming weeks"
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I refuse to believe this.

UltimateGoblin said:
I refuse to believe this.
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Why?
We have just some 4-5 weeks to go until the end of the year, so "in coming weeks" could easily mean "mid/end January".
Quite possible if you think, that industry is currently scrambling to produce enough stock for Christmas and will be mostly idling afterwards. So google could use it to produce more N4s.

I just hope there will be plenty of stock eventually instead of all this selling out nonsense.
I was online and had the opportunity to buy the 8GB version but i was confused, i looked at the 16GB version and still said "Coming Soon" so i thought it hadn't gone on sale yet, little did i realise it had already been and gone :laugh:
So while i was waiting the 8GB version sold out too, gutted.

Might be reading too much into the Google+ Post but:
There’s been so much interest for the Nexus lineup that we’ve sold out of some of our initial stock in a few countries!
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draugaz said:
Why?
We have just some 4-5 weeks to go until the end of the year, so "in coming weeks" could easily mean "mid/end January".
Quite possible if you think, that industry is currently scrambling to produce enough stock for Christmas and will be mostly idling afterwards. So google could use it to produce more N4s.
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I feel like Google would probably rather have it come out before the holidays than after lol...
I'll bet next restock will be either this month or next.

Probably somewhere near the end of December I think
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draugaz said:
Why?
We have just some 4-5 weeks to go until the end of the year, so "in coming weeks" could easily mean "mid/end January".
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If they sell the second batch in mid-january, this means making everyone wait 2 months.
2 months is a lot, especially if you have no guarantee that in 2 months' time stocks will be enough for everybody.
The problem with phones is that they age very quickly, and the sooner people get them, the more they are likely to keep them.
I, to conclude, really hope that we will see a second sale next week. Even if stock is going to be, if possible, even lower, it doesn't matter: angry people will stay angry, but we will have some more "lucky ones" which will have a new phone.
But this is just my opinion.

fatjivi said:
Probably somewhere near the end of December I think
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NGF Community :good:
Found you here as well..Whats up man

I've heard everything from them coming out this Thursday/Friday, all the way up to in one more month.
Spoke to a CSR today and they -of course- cant give out any days because they don't even know. "Being a guesser" the CSR said, "i would guess that it [a new batch of Nexus 4's] could come out the 21 to the 23 of the month ,that way they would be ready for Black Friday" he kept going, "but then again, it could take them until December, that's just my opinion. It all depends what the marketing team wants to do."

UltimateGoblin said:
If they sell the second batch in mid-january, this means making everyone wait 2 months.
2 months is a lot, especially if you have no guarantee that in 2 months' time stocks will be enough for everybody.
The problem with phones is that they age very quickly, and the sooner people get them, the more they are likely to keep them.
I, to conclude, really hope that we will see a second sale next week. Even if stock is going to be, if possible, even lower, it doesn't matter: angry people will stay angry, but we will have some more "lucky ones" which will have a new phone.
But this is just my opinion.
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We get anywhere near mid-end of Jan and im passing, you've nailed it with the "tech moves too fast".
No way this will be the best hardware on the market at that point, only selling point is its a Nexus, which despite me being a fan wont swey my decision.
Stret

I just want ask to google, why the hell are so many Nexus 4 being sold on ebay, if i can't buy one in playstore?????

I unfortunately missed being able to buy N4
I imagine Google will have more stock in before Christmas, or they would lose out on quite a bit of $$.
I've heard they are supposed to have more in by Friday 8am (GMT)(or midnight PST) however cannot confirm this.
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A fortnight at least

I am sure they have to do before international launch which is I guess is 29th or 30th by LG.

Official Word from HTC: US Release by End of April

Oh well...guess we definitely aren't getting it this month
http://bgr.com/2013/03/22/htc-one-release-date-392552/
HTC has seen unprecedented demand for and interest in the new HTC One, and the care taken to design and build it is evidenced in early reviews. The new HTC One will roll out in the UK, Germany and Taiwan next week and across Europe, North America and most of Asia-Pacific before the end of April. We appreciate our customers’ patience, and believe that once they have the phone in their hands they will agree that it has been worth the wait.
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Figures. Oh well losing interest in this phone more and more as time goes by
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I'm actually quickly growing tired of the ever longer delays and push-backs. If this keeps up, I'll just get something else. Some of us don't have the luxury of waiting another month because we need a phone asap.

So it's gonna hit the US probably around the time the GS4 hits. Nice. <-Sarcasm.

ydoucare said:
So it's gonna hit the US probably around the time the GS4 hits. Nice.
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Not nice for HTC, going toe to toe with the S4 is going to cost them a lot of sales.

NO!!!!
I need one before the 20th for a trip, I don't want to get something else for this. :crying:

Android manufacturers need to fire their planning teams. Every single Android product I have ever bought has been delayed.

bye

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So it's gonna hit the US probably around the time the GS4 hits. Nice.
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I hope they have fun trying to convince carriers to advertise their phone over the massively popular GS4.

I just confirmed May 6 as the launch date with three different AT&T stores in my area of Louisiana.

Bad move on htc's part. This isnt going to go well for them with the s4 launch.

ratchetjaw said:
Figures. Oh well losing interest in this phone more and more as time goes by
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Kind of the same for me. I was gettin a hard on for the thing the first few times I saw it and read about it. now I'm kinda leanin towards a gs4
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Jonathon1710 said:
I just confirmed May 6 as the launch date with three different AT&T stores in my area of Louisiana.
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LOL how did the end of April already become beginning of May!?

I called to ask about pre-ordering the phone and that's what I was told.
Side Note: I didn't even see this forum topic before I called.

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Not nice for HTC, going toe to toe with the S4 is going to cost them a lot of sales.
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Sarcasm fail.

Horrible.

ratchetjaw said:
Oh well losing interest in this phone more and more as time goes by
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That's what happens when too much time goes by between announcement and launch; and not just to HTC. The goal should be to build up buzz and then get it in people's hands so word-of-mouth carries the momentum. At launch (or right prior to) is when the big ad spend should kick in to (re)gain and keep attention. Had the schedule stuck they would have been a month ahead of Samsung and not drowned out buy what I'm sure will be Samsung's expansive media spend.
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HTC spent $40MM in advertising last year (a pittance). They're going to get lost against Samsung’s budget. The fact that VZW, the largest U.S. carrier, won't have the One (if they get it) until two months after everyone else won't help. The good news for HTC, at least in the U.S., is most people are using subsidized phones so they’re in the market for a new phone when their contract allows them to be. So it's a steady stream of potential customers and the launch euphoria for both the One and SGS4 won't really affect their purchase decision as much as word-of-mouth and how the two phones actually perform.
And HTC fans and Samsung haters are going to buy the One anyway. Just as Samsung fans and HTC haters are going to buy the SGS4; no matter when both are available. People open to both are most likely to be impacted by Samsung's advertising and larger media coverage and the 30 day head start would have helped HTC.

Pretty disappointing. I may be able to wait, but there is absolutely no chance the general population will choose the one over the sgs4 when they see them side by side. Especially after seeing 10000 commercials on tv for the next galaxy phone.
I feel sorry for htc, that was a horrible decision. They're just digging their own grave on this one.
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Dug their own grave you mean. It's over. Still a nice phone but they just lost their chance.
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What happened to "delay will not affect US launch"? smh

US Price trend

what would be the price trend for HTC One in US?
giving that DNA price dropping like a stone after it released last year.
i played with it in ATT store and i liked it, just not sure if i should wait a little bit

ingalaxy said:
what would be the price trend for HTC One in US?
giving that DNA price dropping like a stone after it released last year.
i played with it in ATT store and i liked it, just not sure if i should wait a little bit
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$120-149 for the one on pre order DNA will porn be free or 49
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ingalaxy said:
what would be the price trend for HTC One in US?
giving that DNA price dropping like a stone after it released last year.
i played with it in ATT store and i liked it, just not sure if i should wait a little bit
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It depends on how well both the One and SGS4 sell for AT&T. If the One holds its own AT&T will keep it at $199 for as long as they can. LG's having a launch event for the OG Pro on May 1 and AT&T usually carries their high-end devices. An iP5 is supposed to be available in June. There's going to be a lot on the shelves at AT&T this summer. Based on One inventory they've stocked or commited to if it's not making its numbers expect some discounting after 30-60 days. And usually the discounting starts with the VARS; at least that's what happened with the DNA. If you find a cheaper price at a (reputable) VAR AT&T will match it over the phone.

Paleryder said:
$120-149 for the one on pre order DNA will porn be free or 49
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Sigh at least say AFTER 2 year contract. I know on t-mobile the The One is $579 outright. $99 upfront +$20 a month if you choose to pay it off over 24 months.

Looks to me the DNA just had a bad release time... it was in between the other major phones

Element515 said:
Looks to me the DNA just had a bad release time... it was in between the other major phones
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And what do you consider a release at the same time as the S4? Good time?

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And what do you consider a release at the same time as the S4? Good time?
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Along with articles releasing about Samsung having to pay kids to bash HTC? I'd say it's pretty good timing.

Releasing with the S4 isn't awful. That's the competition and people will pick what they want. Both were announced early enough ahead of time we all have discussed and watched every youtube video on them. The DNA if I am right came out in november/december time frame... it's nice, but the One is clearly better... and just 4-5months later? I'd be pissed.. and there, you are screwing your own costomers.

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Along with articles releasing about Samsung having to pay kids to bash HTC? I'd say it's pretty good timing."
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And I'm sure all the claims being made are totally without bias and Samsung will be treated fairly. And the supposed event occurred last year with the SGS3's launch and the "kids" weren't hired by Samsung they were working for a third party marketing company.
"HTC’s operations have weakened, impacting Taiwan’s export figures, resulting in 5 successive months of negative growth and seriously affecting Taiwan’s economic growth. In order to stop the decline, Minister of Economic Affairs Shih Yen-shiang today (the 10th) called for his fellow countrymen to “Affirm and support HTC, starting with loving and using their mobile phones”. This statement prompted backlash on the internet,*PTT*saw countless posts slammed, criticizing HTC for considering themselves to be a mainland Chinese brand and belittling Taiwan, [with netizens] unable to agree with Shih Yen-shiang’s point of view.Shih Yen-shiang revealed that he and the Vice-Economic Minister both use HTC phones, that the government has a close relationship with HTC, provides assistance, and hopes that everyone will unite in supporting domestic companies. Netizens didn’t show any appreciation, wit some people with angrily digging out HTC chairman Cher Wang’s past statements, pointing to her having said “HTC is an indigenous Chinese brand”, so Taiwanese officials now calling for the masses to support a ‘non-Taiwanese brand’ is truly unpersuasive."​
http://www.chinasmack.com/2012/stor...ent-calls-on-citizens-to-buy-support-htc.html

Due to relatively high inflation rate I think the trend will no more be so good.
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less than 150. a good price

Who's camping?

I'm really thinking I might at the very least camp it for an hour before my T-Mobile opens. I was told they only have 5 phones to sell and they didn't know if they were getting another shipment. I assume they are though, because why else would they delay the launch. If I can't get one, then it's not the end of the world.
So, what are your game plans? Anyone pitching a tent?
BTW, I went in and checked out the demo. First impressions were good, everything I had expected although I will say this: the midnight blue is the BIGGEST fingerprint magnet I've ever seen. The back of it looked like it had already seen three years of hard abuse. I'll def be putting a case or skin on it

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I'm really thinking I might at the very least camp it for an hour before my T-Mobile opens. I was told they only have 5 phones to sell and they didn't know if they were getting another shipment. I assume they are though, because why else would they delay the launch. If I can't get one, then it's not the end of the world.
So, what are your game plans? Anyone pitching a tent?
BTW, I went in and checked out the demo. First impressions were good, everything I had expected although I will say this: the midnight blue is the BIGGEST fingerprint magnet I've ever seen. The back of it looked like it had already seen three years of hard abuse. I'll def be putting a case or skin on it
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I'm pretty confident in saying that you won't have to camp. Nobody outside of these forums even knows the phone is being released. I work in a dept of over 300 people with smartphones and not a single person has heard nor cares about the N6.
The are you going to buy it poll on the most frequented android forum in the world had a whopping 155 votes. People are acting like this phone isn't going to be available.
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I tend to agree. I contemplated camping until I considered I might be the only one outside waiting. I might get there 20 minutes early though. Just in case. Even if they sell out the stock before I get a chance to buy one. I'm doubtful it will be on back order the first day. So odds are they'll be able to ship it in a couple days, hopefully.
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I think it'll be win win. If I get one, awesome. If not then I'll get what I really want: 64gb white

My impression was waiting 4-5 hours before they open. Interesting that people in here are not to worry about it. Guess depends where you live. When I got my M7 on launch day in Bellevue, I went half an hour before they opened and was like 4th in line, and several people behind me. Going based on that.

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Not right now...

For perspective, the Nexus 5 sold less than 5 million units since release. The Note 4 sold nearly that in a week. No matter how difficult Google makes it to get online, the phone will be widely available at the carriers. Nexus devices have never sold well, even at 299-399 dollars. I suspect the 650-700 dollar Nexus wont be flying out of the stores, either. If people want a Phablet, they'll just get a Note 4, its pretty much cornered the market on Phablets. I love the Nexus line, but I can count on one hand how many people I've ever seen in the wild with one since the Nexus one, and I live in NY.

At the earliest, I'll be there around 1 hour before release. Like others have said in the thread so far, this isn't a very popular release outside of the XDA forums. In fact, most Tmobile reps are clueless about the launch itself.

tflogic said:
At the earliest, I'll be there around 1 hour before release. Like others have said in the thread so far, this isn't a very popular release outside of the XDA forums. In fact, most Tmobile reps are clueless about the launch itself.
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I agree. And on top of that, getting any consumer electronics item a few weeks before it becomes widely available isn't going to improve your life in any measurable way. By the way, I ordered through Motorola and am expecting delivery on November 26th. I think I can wait another 11 days.

Does camping around your phone that has two apps set up to alert you when it's available count? I will actually be working at T-Mo that day, I'm in training so don't go asking me questions b/c honestly I know as much as you all at this point. I'll get outta work around 2-3pm and maybe drive around to take ganders at it if I can.

I'll be camping at the website waiting to order a 64 GB one. Haha

DualSportDad said:
I'll be camping at the website waiting to order a 64 GB one. Haha
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Same and hopefully they allow us to do that at Midnight.

i seriously doubt camping is necessary. google did no large scale marketing at all, and stores typically get new devices in during a shipment midday (unless led by apple who can drive a SPECIFIC launch date world wide). heck, i sold 2 galaxy edges at my att store on the 13th even though we expected them to arrive on the 18th. so fingers crossed we get our nexus 6 before the expected arrival of 21st.

kyan~ said:
i seriously doubt camping is necessary. google did no large scale marketing at all, and stores typically get new devices in during a shipment midday (unless led by apple who can drive a SPECIFIC launch date world wide). heck, i sold 2 galaxy edges at my att store on the 13th even though we expected them to arrive on the 18th. so fingers crossed we get our nexus 6 before the expected arrival of 21st.
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Wait someone bought the edge!?!?

TheDonXR said:
Wait someone bought the edge!?!?
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yeah haha we had 2 edges come in and they gobbled it up at my att store in addison tx

Will likely be at one of the leaked stores supposed to sell it at least 5 hours in advance of opening.

zcgofaster said:
I think it'll be win win. If I get one, awesome. If not then I'll get what I really want: 64gb white
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Ditto

feedtheducks said:
Not right now...
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Get this man a beer for this post (and maybe a nudie mag)

I'll probably be showing up right when they open at 9AM. I was at one of my local stores at 9AM for the Z3 release (returned it due to lack of group messaging support) and I was the only one there.

uhguy said:
I'll probably be showing up right when they open at 9AM. I was at one of my local stores at 9AM for the Z3 release (returned it due to lack of group messaging support) and I was the only one there.
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I think this is much more popular than the Z3.