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Cyanogen is saying its a bug. Tmo is saying its a feature. which one is correct?
If it is indeed a bug how would tmo go about fixing our phones? mass recall? sweep under the rug?
If its a feature, is it a precursor to what future phones will be?
Either outcome isnt very good for the consumer and may lead to lots of lost customers for tmo. Specially after tmo releasing a statement that its a feature of the phone.
I love this phone, the very first smartphone i ever had, and was really looking forward to hacking around with it but its hard to justify such a device that locks you out of such features. I hope cyanogen and all the other great devs work out a solution to this problem. I dont want to send it back.
looked for similar threads and couldnt find any.
info link:
h**p://phandroid.com/2010/10/11/cyanogen-calls-shenanigans-on-t-mobile-g2-root-fail-safe-mechanism/
Read teh goddamn internets!
Wtf people??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????!
d0nkey said:
Read teh goddamn internets!
Wtf people??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????!
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This......
SuperFly03 said:
This......
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Absolutely this.
I read all post lol, but I need to do this question, Im always an Iphone user (tmobile network) I bought this G2, I keep reading that cant be root for now, I change it today because got blackout twices....
I dont know what the hell works the root thing.. Just an advices, should keep my G2? or wait for another android phone...
Still have 13 days for return
d0nkey said:
Read teh goddamn internets!
Wtf people??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????!
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care to elaborate?
s30zgt said:
care to elaborate?
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Can you? lol...
AndroidNoober said:
Can you? lol...
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First off learn to type in a understandable format. your previous post just butchers the english language.
Second, i can see that this thread will go nowhere. Mod can you please close this thread?
s30zgt said:
First off learn to type in a understandable format. your previous post just butchers the english language.
Second, i can see that this thread will go nowhere. Mod can you please close this thread?
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Sorry, I know my English is bad.. Is my second language.. I just trying to understand a little bit about this.. Spanish pages are from Mexico or Spain, harder to understand!!!
Like I said, sorry about that.
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care to elaborate?
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Sure, here: Read the ****ing internet.
krayshunist said:
Sure, here: Read the ****ing internet.
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Wow thanks man lol. I don't need your asinine comments that bring nothing to this thread. Mods please close this thread.
Wow... ppl are such asses..i dont see anything in here that warrants the op to be cursed at...ridiculous
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People are being jerks for sure, but OP, you should search better cuz your question has been answered in several threads. The short of it is NO. It is not a bug in the sense you are thinking. It is an intentional bug which tricks linux (android os) into thinking writes to the system files during root are being made when in actuality, the writes are only being written to cache. Once the cache is cleared during reboot the root access is erased because it wasn't actually written to the system in the first place. It's not a bug that needs to be fixed. It's a bug that was placed there to fool the system and make permanent root more...challenging.
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s30zgt said:
Cyanogen is saying its a bug. Tmo is saying its a feature. which one is correct?
If it is indeed a bug how would tmo go about fixing our phones? mass recall? sweep under the rug?
If its a feature, is it a precursor to what future phones will be?
Either outcome isnt very good for the consumer and may lead to lots of lost customers for tmo. Specially after tmo releasing a statement that its a feature of the phone.
I love this phone, the very first smartphone i ever had, and was really looking forward to hacking around with it but its hard to justify such a device that locks you out of such features. I hope cyanogen and all the other great devs work out a solution to this problem. I dont want to send it back.
looked for similar threads and couldnt find any.
info link:
h**p://phandroid.com/2010/10/11/cyanogen-calls-shenanigans-on-t-mobile-g2-root-fail-safe-mechanism/
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There is a very informational Wiki out. Check it out. It will get you up to date with all the work that has been done towards root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Rooting_the_G2
The important part of the question.. for me.. is whether the Z has the same bugFeature.
I see one random user saying that they flashed a G2 rom on a Desire Z and nothing more. Have I missed something? Kinda hard to say yay or nay based solely on that.
"Intentional Bug" ????
If it's intentional, it's NOT a bug.
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Thank you XfooYen for the info. I did a quick search before I posted(the posting page even searches similar post before you publish them) and found nothing similar. I will make sure to search more thoroughly next time.
I am familiar with the current situation with root, I just though that if a well known developer like cyanogen thinks that its a bug that maybe the readers of xda might want to discuss his possible ratonale for such a statement, then again that may not have been what he was trying to say and got it misrepresented by the media. Instead I saw nothing but irrelevent and pointless posts. For a second I thought this was gizmodo or engadget.
Thank you again. Its good to know that xda has readers who actually know what they are talking about and not just the average troll.
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"Intentional Bug" ????
If it's intentional, it's NOT a bug.
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Actually, you're wrong.
RT @cyanogen: @garok89 yeah, and the statement tmobile made is technically wrong. theres nothing that restores the phone, its actually what i'd call a bug
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Wow... ppl are such asses..i dont see anything in here that warrants the op to be cursed at...ridiculous
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Agreed. This is XDA. In the years I've been here, there was never this much flaming and douchery as there has been lately.
So I tried being a good friend and attempted to install froyo on a co-workers fascinate and he neglected to tell me (i neglected to ask if) he had voodoo lagfix installed. When the phone booted back up it was in a force close loop, So i used odin to install it fresh. Now when the phone boots all i get is : --wiping data. .. Formatting Fota... Formatting Data... DATA WIPE FAILED...., and all it does is loop. Ive tried searching i promise i have, but i cant find anyone with the exact problem of mine. Any ideas? i really have to give my co-worker his phone back... working
Did you use di01 complete package?
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i actually tried using the froyo leak. im downloading dI01package3.tar.md5 right now.. think it will work?
It will work
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Just for my own knowledge, why does he have to go back to Di01? Can't he use the Md5 file for DL09?
or are the DL09 and subsequent updates just that, only updates and not the fully base OS?
And this contributes to development how?
I tried helping my co-worker further enhance his phone by installing froyo, and i developed a bigger problem on his android phone
This belongs in general.
http://www.xda-developers.com/announcements/a-reminder-from-the-xda-moderator-team/
What should I have for dinner, tonight?
spotmark said:
What should I have for dinner, tonight?
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He may have posted it in the wrong section, but how have you helped in any way? Do not be a jackass just because someone posted in the wrong section. Let them know for future reference, and move on. Grow up.
thanks guys problem fixed... thank you for the quick reply and help.
will post at the right spot next time....
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someone.
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Not just someone, it happens multiple times a day, and it's getting frustrating. People need to read, and understand the rules, instead of just posting away. When someone gets a driving license, it doesn't mean they can go blowing through stop signs just because they're new to it. Follow the [email protected]#$!** rules.
I never said it isn't frustrating. I do see where you come from, trust me. BUT, at the same time there is no reason at all to continue to be a jackass in a thread when all he is doing is asking for help. Tell him once, try to help if you can, and drop it. To continue to be a jack ass and making someone feel unwelcome is just as bad as posting in the wrong section IMO.
And this contributes to development how? Drop it, and move on.
[REQ] new forum:
Forums > Samsung Fascinate > Q&A
or some type of section devoted exclusively to help (no trolls or flaming allowed)
Another Fascinating post by my XDA app...
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[REQ] new forum:
Forums > Samsung Fascinate > Q&A
or some type of section devoted exclusively to help (no trolls or flaming allowed)
Another Fascinating post by my XDA app...
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Fascinate General
Discussion about the Verizon Samsung Fascinate (general Q&A, tips & tricks)
We already have that, its just not used correctly.
micdawg12 said:
Fascinate General
Discussion about the Verizon Samsung Fascinate (general Q&A, tips & tricks)
We already have that, its just not used correctly.
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Good point - my bad (I just thought we could have separate Q&A section like they have for the Captivate)
Maybe a "PLEASE HELP ME!" section ;-)
Another Fascinating post by my XDA app...
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Good point - my bad (I just thought we could have separate Q&A section like they have for the Captivate)
Maybe a "PLEASE HELP ME!" section ;-)
Another Fascinating post by my XDA app...
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Haha, there we go. +1 for that
Gquerbes said:
thanks guys problem fixed... thank you for the quick reply and help.
will post at the right spot next time....
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What did you do to fix it?
SmokeyDP said:
What did you do to fix it?
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Full DI01 odin.
Correct me if im wrong but I see this post in under generel???????
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Not really sure what i did but all of a sudden my camera wont work after uploading GenerationX rom, im new to all this stuff and would really appreciate some guidence <3 thank you!
KrystinThaBoSs said:
Not really sure what i did but all of a sudden my camera wont work after uploading GenerationX rom, im new to all this stuff and would really appreciate some guidence <3 thank you!
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You'll either a) need to contact the ROM developer to ask them. b) post this in the correct section which would be Q&A since this isn't a general discussion about the phone or c) wait until you get 10 post and post the same question in the thread from which you found the ROM.
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neidlinger said:
You'll either a) need to contact the ROM developer to ask them. b) post this in the correct section which would be Q&A since this isn't a general discussion about the phone or c) wait until you get 10 post and post the same question in the thread from which you found the ROM.
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Thank you, im sorry man...i feel like an iddiot.
KrystinThaBoSs said:
Thank you, im sorry man...i feel like an iddiot.
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No problem, no hard feelings. We all start out somewhere. It's just with all the various ROMs out there, you'll have alot better shot getting your problem solved by going directly to the source. Since there are a massive number of people that only come here to get problem solved and download ROMs. The General Section is kinda slow these days since the Sensation has come out.
KrystinThaBoSs said:
Not really sure what i did but all of a sudden my camera wont work after uploading GenerationX rom, im new to all this stuff and would really appreciate some guidence <3 thank you!
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Which version did you install? I'm on v4 atm and the camera works just fine.
KrystinThaBoSs said:
Not really sure what i did but all of a sudden my camera wont work after uploading GenerationX rom, im new to all this stuff and would really appreciate some guidence <3 thank you!
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Off topic: terrible idea to use blue font, hurts eyes to read
AntonJart said:
Off topic: terrible idea to use blue font, hurts eyes to read
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I think you are right...lolz no help on my camera issue?
i have an htc hd2 and i would like someone to install android on it. who will do it???
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i have an htc hd2 and i would like someone to install android on it. who will do it???
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you will. after mods remove your thread or move it to general section. and ask you to search to do it yourself
ive tried it myself, 3 times but get error messages and i need to get it done for my son before school starts in two weeks. i will hit the THANKS button until my finger goes numb, haha, just need this phone working. message me your email and lets talk???
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ive tried it myself, 3 times but get error messages and i need to get it done for my son before school starts in two weeks. i will hit the THANKS button until my finger goes numb, haha, just need this phone working. message me your email and lets talk???
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Have you really searched the forum?
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/complete-guide-to-installing-nand-android-on-hd2/
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Have you really searched the forum?
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/complete-guide-to-installing-nand-android-on-hd2/
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yes i did. i even googled the error codes and tried again.
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yes i did. i even googled the error codes and tried again.
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can you at least explain what problems you encounter and what have you done? from a to z?
re downloaded the rom, radio, hd2 kit and tried to do it all 3 times but i get the same error codes.
yarchlrl said:
re downloaded the rom, radio, hd2 kit and tried to do it all 3 times but i get the same error codes.
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And what is the error Code?
725 & 238.
start clean from flashing HSPL4 2.08hspl and formatting sdcard to fat32. then continue
Seriously I am TIRED of seeing posts like these in the DEVELOPMENT SECTION of the HD2. If this was the Q and A section I'd still help you. But I feel inclined to post useless stuff on this thread as you have not bothered to read ANYTHING before coming here.
I know everyone starts new, but so did I and I certainly did not post in the DEV section first.
So please, get a mod to move this thread and then I may help you
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i have an htc hd2 and i would like someone to install android on it. who will do it???
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you should help to keep the forum clean first because you posted in wrong forum... then someone will help you. post it in qa section, thanks
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Seriously I am TIRED of seeing posts like these in the DEVELOPMENT SECTION of the HD2. If this was the Q and A section I'd still help you. But I feel inclined to post useless stuff on this thread as you have not bothered to read ANYTHING before coming here.
I know everyone starts new, but so did I and I certainly did not post in the DEV section first.
So please, get a mod to move this thread and then I may help you
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first off, this post was addressed to developers because ive been told that it has a unique issue with this phone, not model of phone. second, if your not a developer, then its not addressed to you. scroll past it. third,calm down. its just a post. not, the MAGNA CARTA. im not trying to reform or change the way this forum works, im simply doing what i was told to and trying to find a developer that MIGHT need to write a different code for this phone. thats why i posted it here.
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first off, this post was addressed to developers because ive been told that it has a unique issue with this phone, not model of phone. second, if your not a developer, then its not addressed to you. scroll past it. third,calm down. its just a post. not, the MAGNA CARTA. im not trying to reform or change the way this forum works, im simply doing what i was told to and trying to find a developer that MIGHT need to write a different code for this phone. thats why i posted it here.
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Development - where people post their work and things they have made.
Q&A - where people ask questions and have them answered.
There really is no justification of posting this in the development section, so please don't argue about that. You made a mistake, just admit you were wrong. As for your issue you really need to give us more detail. Also, if you think developers are going to take their time to specifically help you as an individual when the chances are you're the one who's made some mistakes then you're sorely mistaken.
Now, as for your issue, you haven't given enough detail. What were the exact steps that you followed? Did the things recommended earlier help?
Thank you for this website and all the helpful information it provides. I was a long time apple user and was fed up with the ios so jumped on the bandwagon of android.
I rooted my phone it it a Telus i337M with the OTA update on it.
My question is what would the best stock to put on? I know it is a vague question ive been trying to do some research but i dont see anything that says it is compatible with the update that recently came out and I am a but nervous proceeding without expert advise. I like to have more battery life.
Id like to get rid of the bloatware as most probably do and TrulyClean 1.6 seems to be the choice. The installation is what baffles me.
If there is any information that i am missing that should be provided I have no problems with that.
Thank you again to who ever replies for your time. once i get the hang of this ill be happy to offer help to others who are in my shoes.
Too bad it your first post, best threads are frowned upon. Just try a couple of different roms and see what you like. Didn't people like different things. I've heard vision x is good.
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Too bad it your first post, best threads are frowned upon. Just try a couple of different roms and see what you like. Didn't people like different things. I've heard vision x is good.
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Well my apologies for posting then Ive tried to search for an answer but I do not have a SD Card and want to know if the update is ok to install a new dashboard / rom will that cause a conflict. Ill try to do more searching. Tough to search for something when i do not know the best terminology to use to find it hense why i ask here.
niaboc said:
Thank you for this website and all the helpful information it provides. I was a long time apple user and was fed up with the ios so jumped on the bandwagon of android.
I rooted my phone it it a Telus i337M with the OTA update on it.
My question is what would the best stock to put on? I know it is a vague question ive been trying to do some research but i dont see anything that says it is compatible with the update that recently came out and I am a but nervous proceeding without expert advise. I like to have more battery life.
Id like to get rid of the bloatware as most probably do and TrulyClean 1.6 seems to be the choice. The installation is what baffles me.
If there is any information that i am missing that should be provided I have no problems with that.
Thank you again to who ever replies for your time. once i get the hang of this ill be happy to offer help to others who are in my shoes.
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Read the "pinned" threads in the general and Q & A sections. In them, you will find a list of available ROMs. Read the OPs of each ROM thread to see what they have to offer.
This thread might help you as well...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2295557
And if your firmware is MF3, you can not put any ROM on your phone (yet). Make sure you do a lot of reading before you brick your phone.
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niaboc said:
Well my apologies for posting then Ive tried to search for an answer but I do not have a SD Card and want to know if the update is ok to install a new dashboard / rom will that cause a conflict. Ill try to do more searching. Tough to search for something when i do not know the best terminology to use to find it hense why i ask here.
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Read the "pinned" threads and you will know.
Thank you for the guidance and the link it is much appreciated and I will sit back with a coffee and start reading away..
i dont want to make a new post so ill continue here.. can someone direct me to the proper spot to get PhilZ Touch for i337m? i see so many different versions and i dont see any that say it is compatible with i337m. Sorry that seems like the last step i need before i can use this TrulyClean.zip
niaboc said:
i dont want to make a new post so ill continue here.. can someone direct me to the proper spot to get PhilZ Touch for i337m? i see so many different versions and i dont see any that say it is compatible with i337m. Sorry that seems like the last step i need before i can use this TrulyClean.zip
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This one..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2322682
rkennison said:
This one..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2322682
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thank you it worked.. i ran the 1.6 bloat killer thank you for that as well whoever made that..
but my issue at the moment is i only have 4G my LTE doesnt show up anymore.. did i do something wrong?
niaboc said:
thank you it worked.. i ran the 1.6 bloat killer thank you for that as well whoever made that..
but my issue at the moment is i only have 4G my LTE doesnt show up anymore.. did i do something wrong?
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Some roms display "4G" in the status bar when you're connected to LTE. Do a speed test and see if your speed is less than it was before.