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Taking the plunge...should I or shouldn't I

Greetings to all SGS3 users.. I had recently purchased an HTC One X... but was plagued with problems from day One, the first set I had there was a gap between the screen and the plastic so a creaking sort of sound used to come... got it replaced the very next day...the second One X was flawless or so I thought but after a few days of using it, I noticed when the phone was booting up or shutting/restarting there were yellow patches on the bottom of the screen, which were not there initially, so I contacted my dealer today and now he has given me two options either he replaces again with a new One X or he gives me a new SGS3 at no extra charge and since I have not used this phone(SGS3) I have no idea(s) about it....
so my request to all you SGS3 users is if you all could give me an honest opinion whether to go for the SGS3 replacement or the HOX.
P.S.: Is the body(polycarbonate) of the SGS3 more prone to scratches?

well if you like the design and camera of the htc stick with it. Otherwise, galaxy s iii
Samsung claimed that their hyperglaze is scratch proof but idk
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kulzboy said:
well if you like the design and camera of the htc stick with it. Otherwise, galaxy s iii
Samsung claimed that their hyperglaze is scratch proof but idk
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Thanx for the reply is the camera of the HOX superior to the SGS3? to be a deal breaker. personally, well the design is ok of the HOX not that I am a purist for design per say

kulzboy said:
well if you like the design and camera of the htc stick with it. Otherwise, galaxy s iii
Samsung claimed that their hyperglaze is scratch proof but idk
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S3 all the way.!
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rubenswing said:
Thanx for the reply is the camera of the HOX superior to the SGS3? to be a deal breaker. personally, well the design is ok of the HOX not that I am a purist for design per say
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HOX has f/2.0 which has a better lighting while S3 has f/2.5 or f/2.6 I don't remember but the smaller is the better
I don't really use phones as cameras. If you really want good quality photos then invest on a DSLR camera

kulzboy said:
I don't really use phones as cameras. If you really want good quality photos then invest on a DSLR camera
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I agree with u there...even I do not use phones as a camera and neither is that a top notch priority for me

rubenswing said:
I agree with u there...even I do not use phones as a camera and neither is that a top notch priority for me
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Dude definitely get the s3 ! and preferably the white one if u in india, cause most of the indian users have reported no tint issues with its screen!
btw, this is like a golden opportunity fr u, grab the offer, u wont regret it !
n hop on to the indian thread if u want more coaxing
EDIT: vekya or some other mod is soon gonna close this thread i guess

zyryn said:
Dude definitely get the s3 ! and preferably the white one if u in india, cause most of the indian users have reported no tint issues with its screen!
btw, this is like a golden opportunity fr u, grab the offer, u wont regret it !
n hop on to the indian thread if u want more coaxing
EDIT: vekya or some other mod is soon gonna close this thread i guess
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thanx for the coaxing and yes definitely I am in India and I am now going for the white SGS3

Please give your feedback once you got it on your impressions (also comparing to the HOX).

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Please give your feedback once you got it on your impressions (also comparing to the HOX).
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Yes i surely will without doubt

Xperia z vs Xperia ZL..A close comparison!

Ok had a play with ZL and XZ in a local store..I am surprised by these things:
As we know most things about the XZ i wont go onto those points..rather ZL.
1. ZL is more brighter and better contrast than XZ..And no the values of calibration were set to 0 on ZL..i put up sony live wallpaper [purple] on both and ZL was visibly more brighter and vibrant!I Wonder what was sony thinking not giving its flagship that same screen? :/
2. Sound through headphones and speakers both were better on ZL..Dont know why? i can understand speakers bcoz of water proofing.
3. Easier to use due to small size and withe same size screen is a plus.
And alas i am confused :/ Dont wanna loose the build quality of XZ but want a brighter screen too!

ethan3686 said:
Ok had a play with ZL and XZ in a local store..I am surprised by these things:
As we know most things about the XZ i wont go onto those points..rather ZL.
1. ZL is more brighter and better contrast than XZ..And no the values of calibration were set to 0 on ZL..i put up sony live wallpaper [purple] on both and ZL was visibly more brighter and vibrant!I Wonder what was sony thinking not giving its flagship that same screen? :/
2. Sound through headphones and speakers both were better on ZL..Dont know why? i can understand speakers bcoz of water proofing.
3. Easier to use due to small size and withe same size screen is a plus.
And alas i am confused :/ Dont wanna loose the build quality of XZ but want a brighter screen too!
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Could have been better if you can provide pictures.

they didnt let me do that there..i was at a local store..I'll try to pursue next time..But trust me ZL is more brighter..Can there be a mod to increase XZ brightness??..
Bcoz it looks dull in comparison! But i want the XZ only

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Was it a demo unit or a retail unit ? All demo units have the ****TY JDC panels. Retail models in most countries have the Sharp panel (same as the one on ZL)

I guess both were demo units..Coz there was some videos of each's advertisemnt going on once u leave them doing nothing..but cud be some screen saver too. but i could be wrong too! bcoz one guy bought the XZ and it looked same.
P.S. Also look here even pocketnow notices the screen difference..guess we will have to wait for gsmarena -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siiv2XltFXY

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ZL uses Sharp screen only, whereas Z first batch has panel lottery and demo units get poor panels. So you can't compare that way. GSMArena got the second worst panel (JDC) so obviously ZL review they will rate the display better but it's pointless as they didn't review Z with sharp panel.
Z with sharp panel will be same as ZL.

So how do i know which is the sharp panel? anyway of knowing from the box? bcoz they will open it only if i buy it!

XZ brightness is fine, whatever you and the others say is exaggerations!

I just received my ZL on Friday, i must say the ZL is more comfortable to hold in my hand and screen is a bit better. sad but going to sell my Z soon
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Xperia z has infrared option...?
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gclancer said:
I just received my ZL on Friday, i must say the ZL is more comfortable to hold in my hand and screen is a bit better. sad but going to sell my Z soon
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Do you have a picture that shows the screen of the z and zl? I am quite curious because i am about to get the zl but is discouraged after reading reviews regarding the screen of the z.

Did you tried to uncheck AutoBrightness, and set the brightness level at maximum level? Doing so i found XZ to be very bright. In fact too bright for normal usage. Sony should tweak AutoBrightness in the next update. Also should discard gray theme. Replace it with black. Bad mistake that gray.
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ARC X12 said:
Do you have a picture that shows the screen of the z and zl? I am quite curious because i am about to get the zl but is discouraged after reading reviews regarding the screen of the z.
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Brightness on the ZL is set to the lowest but color wise is still more vibrant than the Z

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its the second time ive seen comparisons like this, not only could the exact same screen be calibrated differently towards warmer and darker colours, (software, not hardware) but if you look closer they are different pictures, and picture colours could have been tweaked before its displayed on screen for exanple take a screen shot of wallpaper vuew it with bravia on, then do another screen pic and save as wallpaper. “Ohh! Look everyone my, my screen is more vivid and has better contrast then your screen! Yeah! You suck! Iam the winner, martin sheen is winning"

Dunno about you guys, but I don't have my brightness set up all the way on my XZ. It's too bright for my taste. 60-80%max.
Maybe thats why my battery lasts so long?

mtechfan said:
Dunno about you guys, but I don't have my brightness set up all the way on my XZ. It's too bright for my taste. 60-80%max.
Maybe thats why my battery lasts so long?
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i leave mine @ 40% with autobrigthness "on". works well for me even under the desert sun... at noon.

bucho2004 said:
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its the second time ive seen comparisons like this, not only could the exact same screen be calibrated differently towards warmer and darker colours, (software, not hardware) but if you look closer they are different pictures, and picture colours could have been tweaked before its displayed on screen for exanple take a screen shot of wallpaper vuew it with bravia on, then do another screen pic and save as wallpaper. “Ohh! Look everyone my, my screen is more vivid and has better contrast then your screen! Yeah! You suck! Iam the winner, martin sheen is winning"
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No even using live wallpapers the ZL screen looks better than XZ

Use calibration software ported from zl.
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JDC is actually the superior panel.
Please see the thread on panel identification. Someone posted comparison pics.
Sharp Panel is inferior and abysmal.

ethan3686 said:
No even using live wallpapers the ZL screen looks better than XZ
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I agree. Compared my Zl screen with three XZ screens at two different sony stores & found that ZL screen indeed has better viewing angles & colour vibrance than those on XZs. I tested same wallpaper using album app at full brightness & bravia engine enabled (adapt to light checked) in all the units. Sorry that i can't provide any photos of the same.

Sony Xperia Z2 wishlist

as the xperia z the z1 is as close to the perfect phone i can get but i thought i'd make a wishlist for the z2
1.i would like 4 speakers two on each side in the corner to utilize surround
2.the best screen you can get in a phone with the best black level and the best viewing angles (a sony developed oled would be amazing)
3.camera does not matter to me (but i guess a less noisy camera with xenon flash)
4.thinner bezels all around to give the phone a more sharp corners design (not too thin) (AND ABSOLUTELY no inner plastic like the z1 it slightly ruins that phone for me)
5.brushed metal finish at the back i read nfc won't work behind metal so not sure how to use that maybe put the nfc sensor at the side not back
6.fully customizable size/looks/color/theme and hidable onscreen buttons (hides in any fullscreen application) also customizable notification bar i like that the layer behind it dissappears when in the menu it looks nicer i want it like that always
7.able to use the phone everywhere in landscape mode menus and everything (it can be done if it's connected in the dock)
8.thinner metal frame all around matte black color (honestly i feel no difference holding the z1 from when i held the z)
9.4.6 or 4.7 inch screen like the htc one

The thin bezels
Oleophobic coating (without skin)
Optical stabilization
Support for 4K video recording to zoom during video recording
IPS or PLS screen for all versions

I really dont see a disadvantage in our not soooo small bezels. It is really anoying if you always have to hold the phone in a way that you dont touch the edge of the display and command something unwanted... Other new phones have that problem and many of my friends complained about that.

Mighty_X said:
I really dont see a disadvantage in our not soooo small bezels. It is really anoying if you always have to hold the phone in a way that you dont touch the edge of the display and command something unwanted... Other new phones have that problem and many of my friends complained about that.
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This problem does not exist. I am the owner of G2, and read reviews on S4, G2 and etc., none of that

Cloverfi said:
This problem does not exist. I am the owner of G2, and read reviews on S4, G2 and etc., none of that
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I used G2 before owning z1, and yes unwanted touches always happens...
But still G2 is better than Z1
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marc_ecko28 said:
I used G2 before owning z1, and yes unwanted touches always happens...
But still G2 is better than Z1
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just curious, why you think the g2 is better?

Jiyeon90 said:
just curious, why you think the g2 is better?
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Better battery life
Better display and viewing
Bigger screen
Lighter
Smaller than z1 but 5.2" screen size
Lots of features
Better camera and video recording
Gorilla glass
I cant notice any difference when it comes to performance.
The only advantage of Z1 is its dust and water resistant and the presence of expandable storage. (except the Korean Variant)
My reason for shifting to Z1 is that my g2 was only 16gb and the 32gb is not available here.
But still I'm happy and satisfied with Z1...
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My wish list would be:
thinner
Thinner bezels
IPS LCD screen
Floating touch technology
Android 4.4 out of the box
Better battery
And if possible, no covered ports

S Master Chip!
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You are pretty much asking for the perfect phone which will not happen.

marc_ecko28 said:
The only advantage of Z1 is its dust and water resistant and the presence of expandable storage. (except the Korean Variant)
My reason for shifting to Z1 is that my g2 was only 16gb and the 32gb is not available here.
But still I'm happy and satisfied with Z1...
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Z1 only has 16GB, so you moved to Z1 just for dust resistance & expandable storage ?
As for Z2, you know these fat bezels on the Z1 that everyone likes to gripe about ? i would like to see speakers in there like htc has.
I have this idea that sony is testing the market acceptability of a form factor like on the Z1.

From the LG G2: Screen, bezels/housing, battery and reception (wifi/gsm)
From the HTC One: Speakers and build quality
From the Z1: Camera (mixed with the G2 camera, OIS), build quality, water-proof and software/looks
That would be about it

well keeping it real..
i would love to see Z2 to have these features:
OIS, oh yes this has to be included in Z2...
better camera algorithm, we know Sony cams have good potential....
S-Master for Mobile, well not exactly the REAL S-Master we see in Walkman devices, but seeing these chips in the upcoming flagship Xperias would be nice
Oleophobic coating on screen and rear glass, THIS!! THIS!!!! i hate to keep the shatterproof sheet on as it scratches easily, using screenguard is annoying too as it also scratches easily while the screen itself is already pretty tough, but the screen is a goddamn fingerprint and dust magnet
better video Codec built-in
better viewing angle, it was kinda shocking to see my old Xperia V has way better viewing angle than Z1 which is supposedly to be a superior display with Triluminos...

dagrim1 said:
From the LG G2: Screen, bezels/housing, battery and reception (wifi/gsm)
From the HTC One: Speakers and build quality
From the Z1: Camera (mixed with the G2 camera, OIS), build quality, water-proof and software/looks
That would be about it
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Build quality? Z1 has better build quality than HTC One.
I've had s4 and htc one and wanted note 3 or nexus 5 untill I got Z1, I can honestly say Z1 is a keeper and I'm very happy with it.
Cant speak for G2? Power button on back? Crap UI? No thanks.

dazza7111 said:
Build quality? Z1 has better build quality than HTC One.
I've had s4 and htc one and wanted note 3 or nexus 5 untill I got Z1, I can honestly say Z1 is a keeper and I'm very happy with it.
Cant speak for G2? Power button on back? Crap UI? No thanks.
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I like them both so I listed build quality for both devices Had no complaints wiht my HTC one, was solid as hell and felt great. But yeah, Z1 is fine too in that aspect.

dagrim1 said:
I like them both so I listed build quality for both devices Had no complaints wiht my HTC one, was solid as hell and felt great. But yeah, Z1 is fine too in that aspect.
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I was so scared to mark the metal on HTC one and seen one all dented on back after a few months lol looked awful

marc_ecko28 said:
Lots of features
Better camera and video recording
Gorilla glass
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Seriously? You got to be kidding with those three. And I'm not sure about battery life.
Anyway, All I wish for the Z2 is:
A BIGGER power button,
OIS,
If some act of God would make possible an uncovered-waterproof uncovered micro USB port,
a bit thinner, maybe just like the Z,
And maybe a better screen (although I'm very happy with it).
Maybe about the thing with bezels is that they should put physical buttons on that space.

camera without bubbles at zoom, better screen better than s amoled and dont know more for now

I actually would have bought it if it had an IR blaster.

I just really lol sometimes at the wishlist, if you seriously want all those kind ofa perfect features from a smartphone why don't you start manufacturing your own mobiles lol?

XZ1's JDC Screen vs XZ1's low quality screen (sharp?)

Sup Z1 owners,
Ok so I went to a store, and bought a Z1. Than I compared to the retail model. And this the result. Sony are you serious, you ruin everything.
Cheers,
If you want post your pictures

My device (I returned already) is on left side obviously and looks sooo ****ty on the screen.
The other screen is awesome! Compared to note 3 its almost as good as note 3's screen

How can i check what kind of displey i got on my z1?
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Mine is same as the right one. JDC screen model number BH904**
and the .537 (old) build has the optimized back light... the latest software updates doesnt have it anymore

Morlock O said:
Mine is same as the right one. JDC screen model number BH904**
and the .537 (old) build has the optimized back light... the latest software updates doesnt have it anymore
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you lucky
where did u buy it?

jader13254 said:
Sup Z1 owners,
Ok so I went to a store, and bought a Z1. Than I compared to the retail model. And this the result. Sony are you serious, you ruin everything.
Cheers,
If you want post your pictures
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What the hell??
Even my Xperia Z has way better screen, comparable to the right one.
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Yea will order a few Z1 online maybe I'll get a good screen.

Screen updates yes it was fixed but some changes gave yellow tint again.
I guess u have to wait for a minor fix.
Trying on debug mode wait.......
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BLEK0TA said:
How can i check what kind of displey i got on my z1?
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I'm curious too... can anybody explain how to get this info?

all c6906 come with screens on the right

Yeah my screen looks like the right one, even a little better, your case is extreme dude
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Here's a comparison between the bh90f and cb512 the 512 has jdc screen the other has sharp.
Oddly the jdc is the left one, IRL it has nicer greys/whites and no yellow hue.

I had good screen on 534
Became yellow on 257
Did a factory reset, and now fine on 257
Try it, it might work
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Where the hell we can find that SN?
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i just received my xperia z1 today in videos to me the display looked great it must be JDC displays in ever video because my device looks like the picture in the right i have been waiting to receive this phone for a while and now i can say the display does not look any better than my xperia s's i might have to go back to my s4 good thing i still have it i am disappointed with this display

wow, yeah that's what some of yall was referring to with the yellow issue.
Mine def does not look like that.
C6906 bought directly from Sony Store in Canada.

So this is the famous yellow hue in the Z1. Now I can said I am lucky one for some aspects, not all.

you are all seriously out of proportion, first of all, it's almost impossible to tell whether your screen does or don't look like a screen you see through a photo, perhaps your computer screen is yellow!
second it's much easier when you look at it next to another phone.
third, stop the bs, z1 has much better viewing angles than the xz, take one and compare other than that, it is no amoled, can't do **** about it, but when viewed from usable angle (and i mean an angle where you can use your phone, not one that you can see it) the screen is absolutly stunning.
this comes from someone who compares to other friends phone have a tad more yellow screen, perhaps...

shteren said:
you are all seriously out of proportion, first of all, it's almost impossible to tell whether your screen does or don't look like a screen you see through a photo, perhaps your computer screen is yellow!
second it's much easier when you look at it next to another phone.
third, stop the bs, z1 has much better viewing angles than the xz, take one and compare other than that, it is no amoled, can't do **** about it, but when viewed from usable angle (and i mean an angle where you can use your phone, not one that you can see it) the screen is absolutly stunning.
this comes from someone who compares to other friends phone have a tad more yellow screen, perhaps...
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In addition to what you said, the white balance in that OP shot, was so wrong into the warm scale that it is going to make everything look ten times worse than reality, although it does still show that there is in fact a difference, would have been good to know that your brightness on both were the same, because I am sure they were not, all shops I went to had the slider on max and the phone shipped doesn't so you would have to consciously have to make that change. Because I can simulate with one phone, just buy using the brightness slider the same as your opening post
I have a fully professionally calibrated screen and my phones white standard matches my screen almost perfectly, most people from what I can gather prefer a more cold white, if so +8 green and blue makes my Z1 similar to my Z and more close to the HTC One.

Both devices needs calibrating.
Maybe there is a different lightsource hitting on the right, but that one to me seems to have too much red in it.
The white balance app is up for grabs.
Someone who has two z1's in close proximity should try testing and see if they can get them to be equal, and if that fails, I'd be more inclined to believe there are that many "faulty screens"

What do you think about Z2's size?

Do you think Z2 is too large for you?
Have any troubles?

Nope!!
It is by no means a handset to use with one hand!! But considering that I had a 5inch handset earlier and Z2 is actually more compact than that, I have No issues!!!
Size is really a small issue for me when it packs a plethora of features!! But yes, even though Galaxy S5 is compact than Z2, I wouldn't prefer it coz of poor aesthetics!

I wish it was a 5,5 instead of a 5.2!
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Considering I'm coming from the oneplus one, the z2 is perfect for me
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It was too big for me as I came from an iPhone, but I'm getting used to it and now I can use it with one hand.

So..green light for 185cm and 18yrs old
Nobody complain?

It's big. No question about that [emoji2] I changed my Z1c for the Z2 but now I am starting to get used to this size, I really like reading on Z2:s screen. It's so much easier but it's not a one hand phone
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Option58 said:
Do you think Z2 is too large for you?
Have any troubles?
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I also own the Xperia Ultra so the Z2 is a tiny mobile in comparison. You do realise the futility of your question as what is large to one owner will be small to another? Its totally and utterly subjective.
Compared to my first mobile way back in the 80's this is tiny.
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Option58 said:
So..green light for 185cm and 18yrs old
Nobody complain?
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Young man if you can afford a mobile like this at your age I would accept it with a massive smile on my face and a ton of gratitude.
Have you gone into a mobile phone store and held on in your hand?
Accept the mobile with gratitude and consider yourself very fortunate to own it. :highfive:
Ryland

For me, its too big im having trouble in landscape mode in typing my two hands is having difficulty. Well I have small hands crying. Anyway my perfect length size would be the z. But due too many issues of z and value since I needed to sell it I purchase z2
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I like the size, the screen could be a bit bigger though. Sold my Note 3 and bought the Z2.
The other thing i dont like about the "size" is all the dead space around the screen. They could've easily have made the screen a bit bigger without making the phone itself notably bigger.

Frantiic87a said:
I like the size, the screen could be a bit bigger though. Sold my Note 3 and bought the Z2.
The other thing i dont like about the "size" is all the dead space around the screen. They could've easily have made the screen a bit bigger without making the phone itself notably bigger.
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Not easily, ip certificate is one of the reasons bezels are bigger than competition

feis said:
Not easily, ip certificate is one of the reasons bezels are bigger than competition
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True, but still, some adjustments could've been made to it i reckon.

feis said:
Not easily, ip certificate is one of the reasons bezels are bigger than competition
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The biggest reason for the bezels is the 20mp camera, it's so thick that it has to be put above the screen

Just like my former S3 the screen is a bit to big for one hand usage. It's hard to pull down the notification menu with one hand, but GMD Gesture Control takes care of that. I have medium/large hands (male),
Using two hands is optimal though, and most of the time something you have to do.

CarlBlomqvist said:
Just like my former S3 the screen is a bit to big for one hand usage. It's hard to pull down the notification menu with one hand, but GMD Gesture Control takes care of that. I have medium/large hands (male),
Using two hands is optimal though, and most of the time something you have to do.
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It was hard for you to use 4.8inch phone one handed with male medium/large hands?
Well, then...

Option58 said:
It was hard for you to use 4.8inch phone one handed with male medium/large hands?
Well, then...
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No, it was hard to pull down the notification menu. Otherwise it was fine! the Z2 is a bit trickier though.

The size is just PERFECT, I don't like how Note 3 looks like, it feels gigantic to me. And it's not microscopic like iPhone series. Just great size.
Btw, I can use my hand with one phone. No actually, I can use my phone with one hand. Not as easy as iPhones though, but I still can. :laugh:

As a 6 foot violinist with relatively large hands I find this phone perfect to hold. Lovely and think so I can reach the edges of the screen without too much hassle.
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I like the dimensions of the phone and how thin it is. just seems kinda hard to hold. maybe with a more curved back similar to the M8 it would be a little better for me. I can cradle the M8 quite comfortable even for its monstrous size.

It's hard to grip on my hand. Long usage tends to hurt my palm, must be because of their omnibalance design. Not palm friendly at all [emoji17]