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So, I'm new to the world of tablets - the only interaction with them being some light use on my mom's tablet (including rooting it via Iconia Root and installing Acer Recovery Installer v2.54) I was curious about updating via ARI (since she's rooted and being plagued by OTA popups). Back when she first got the tablet, she tried to update and it would stop mid-download, giving no error, and just sit there until she cancelled it (this was before the root). So, basically, my question is: Is it possible to run a stock update (Ie "Stock 3.1 4.010.42_EMEA_GEN3") without having to wipe during install? I have a backup via ARI and also Titanium backup installed but I'd really like to not have to re-install all the apps/set up the homescreen (she's on stock) and stuff. I know on my OG droid that when I installed CM7 I had to do a wipe for it to even get past the boot screen but I figure with this being a stock update maybe it's different...
If not is there some way that I can install an update while keeping the root/system data?
AliceInUnderland said:
So, I'm new to the world of tablets - the only interaction with them being some light use on my mom's tablet (including rooting it via Iconia Root and installing Acer Recovery Installer v2.54) I was curious about updating via ARI (since she's rooted and being plagued by OTA popups). Back when she first got the tablet, she tried to update and it would stop mid-download, giving no error, and just sit there until she cancelled it (this was before the root). So, basically, my question is: Is it possible to run a stock update (Ie "Stock 3.1 4.010.42_EMEA_GEN3") without having to wipe during install? I have a backup via ARI and also Titanium backup installed but I'd really like to not have to re-install all the apps/set up the homescreen (she's on stock) and stuff. I know on my OG droid that when I installed CM7 I had to do a wipe for it to even get past the boot screen but I figure with this being a stock update maybe it's different...
If not is there some way that I can install an update while keeping the root/system data?
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No. If you run the OTA, you WILL lose root. Not to mention I don't have a lot of faith in any device OTA updates. Prior experience, and hanging around various forums, well, you can read the horror stories.
I would advise, if you want to upgrade her OS and get rid of the "pesky" update notifications, is to flash one of the Stock rooted roms available. Or maybe a stripped down version of a Stock rom.
Search the developer section for a rooted version of the stock OTA, there are several in there. Install it via recovery, you only need to wipe dalvik and cache before the install. All of her data and programs will still be there. It will upgrade just fine. Remember wipe Dalvik and cache but do not wipe data and everything will be fine.
get and flash one of the honeylicious rom from the dev area .. good rom very basic apps.. but has a update to get the acer apps back.. and bunch of other cool mods.. the dev is also . kinda trustworthy..
Giggles.. ok he is kewl for a guy yukeeee guys smell..
good luck .. read read read read before you flash anything and of course back up and back up your backups .. then back them up again
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Search the developer section for a rooted version of the stock OTA, there are several in there. Install it via recovery, you only need to wipe dalvik and cache before the install. All of her data and programs will still be there. It will upgrade just fine. Remember wipe Dalvik and cache but do not wipe data and everything will be fine.
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Well... if the person was going to do an update to the exact same rom (different version) I would say ok.
But... if you are going to go to a totally different Rom, you NEED to wipe User Data.
Or, does anybody want to tell me you never have to?
3 Wipes. Mandatory when switching between roms, unless you are a dev and know exactly what you are doing.
Or.... you can forget about the safe side of things, and just flash away, and hope luck is with you.
The Market, SHOULD, allow you to re-download apps based on the market version you previously used. If not, it's a good time to clean house of the useless apps.
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No. If you run the OTA, you WILL lose root. Not to mention I don't have a lot of faith in any device OTA updates. Prior experience, and hanging around various forums, well, you can read the horror stories.
I would advise, if you want to upgrade her OS and get rid of the "pesky" update notifications, is to flash one of the Stock rooted roms available. Or maybe a stripped down version of a Stock rom.
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I wasn't talking about an OTA, I was talking about the stock 'rom' updates via recovery. I've had experiences with phones that have been rooted and accidentally updated via OTA, it's not fun. My phone was actually put into something I like to refer to as the Root limbo lol, bricked it for a small period of time - that was fun fixing it. I didn't have a nandroid at the time so I had to start from scratch...
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Search the developer section for a rooted version of the stock OTA, there are several in there. Install it via recovery, you only need to wipe dalvik and cache before the install. All of her data and programs will still be there. It will upgrade just fine. Remember wipe Dalvik and cache but do not wipe data and everything will be fine.
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So if I find a rooted version of stock OTA I can install it and only wipe Dalvik? I won't get stuck in a bootloop if I don't wipe data?
AliceInUnderland said:
So if I find a rooted version of stock OTA I can install it and only wipe Dalvik? I won't get stuck in a bootloop if I don't wipe data?
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If you stick with a stock pre-rooted ROM, you won't get stuck in a bootloop like you do some phones. You're just doing an upgrade.
But like doing an upgrade to any other OS without formatting first, you're writing good data over bad, so your mileage may vary.
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erica_renee said:
get and flash one of the honeylicious rom from the dev area .. good rom very basic apps.. but has a update to get the acer apps back.. and bunch of other cool mods.. the dev is also . kinda trustworthy..
Giggles.. ok he is kewl for a guy yukeeee guys smell..
good luck .. read read read read before you flash anything and of course back up and back up your backups .. then back them up again
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Hey I resemble....or is it resent that remark! lol
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If you stick with a stock pre-rooted ROM, you won't get stuck in a bootloop like you do some phones. You're just doing an upgrade.
But like doing an upgrade to any other OS without formatting first, you're writing good data over bad, so your mileage may vary.
I can't seem to find any pre-rooted stock Roms on the Developers forum. Links? I know I'm probably being a pain in the ass but I really don't want to get something by mistake and start with scratch on my mom's tablet - if it were mine I wouldn't care. lol
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The link in the post above yours in this thread. Is a link to the rom scroll up one post
Giggles
AliceInUnderland said:
kjy2010 said:
If you stick with a stock pre-rooted ROM, you won't get stuck in a bootloop like you do some phones. You're just doing an upgrade.
But like doing an upgrade to any other OS without formatting first, you're writing good data over bad, so your mileage may vary.
I can't seem to find any pre-rooted stock Roms on the Developers forum. Links? I know I'm probably being a pain in the ass but I really don't want to get something by mistake and start with scratch on my mom's tablet - if it were mine I wouldn't care. lol
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1290318
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AliceInUnderland said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1290318
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Oh my god you rock, thanks so much!
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kjy2010 said:
Oh my god you rock, thanks so much!
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Yw
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kjy2010 said:
AliceInUnderland said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1290318
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Okay, this sent her into a bootloop so I had to nandroid. I wiped dalvik cache before installing this. Put it in the root of my SD card and installed via CWM in recovery. what am I doing wrong?
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kjy2010 said:
Okay, this sent her into a bootloop so I had to nandroid. I wiped dalvik cache before installing this. Put it in the root of my SD card and installed via CWM in recovery. what am I doing wrong?
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I've never heard of the A500 going into a bootloop simply from flashing one rooted stock ROM to another, but then again most people do all the necessary wipes when they do. Did you wipe dalvik and battery stats? That's about as minimal as you're going to get. If that doesn't work, you'll just have to flash the proper way. Instructions here complete with a video tutorial on how to flash by yours truly:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1390860
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kjy2010 said:
AliceInUnderland said:
I've never heard of the A500 going into a bootloop simply from flashing one rooted stock ROM to another, but then again most people do all the necessary wipes when they do. Did you wipe dalvik and battery stats? That's about as minimal as you're going to get. If that doesn't work, you'll just have to flash the proper way. Instructions here complete with a video tutorial on how to flash by yours truly:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1390860
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Nevermind, I fixed it XD I wiped dalvik and battery/partition and it worked fine lol.
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kjy2010 said:
Nevermind, I fixed it XD I wiped dalvik and battery/partition and it worked fine lol.
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Uh huh....you're welcome!
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So first off im gonna start off and say that I dont really care about being rooted in the first place. I thought id be flashing a lot more stuff but It turns out that I never flashed anything. So on my phone as of now I just have root and I have twrp installed onto it. I did that process to take off the custom recovery status from using motochopper as well. Now my problem is that every time i try to take the ota I get booted right into twrp and then i am unable to take the update. I even downloaded the zip file and tried flashing it and I just get a failed message. Can anyone tell me whats going on? Or point me into the right direction so i can uninstall twrp so I can take the update?
Odin back to stock, then do a factory reset in settings.
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Odin back to stock, then do a factory reset in settings.
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Will this make everything on my phone get deleted?
blackguy101 said:
Will this make everything on my phone get deleted?
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It did not wipe either internal or extral sdcards when I used odin, been awhile though.
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It did not wipe either internal or extral sdcards when I used odin, been awhile though.
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Well actually I have one more question. Arent I already stock? I havent even flashed another rom. I literally just got root status and put twrp recovery on it. Do I still need to use odin?
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Well actually I have one more question. Arent I already stock? I havent even flashed another rom. I literally just got root status and put twrp recovery on it. Do I still need to use odin?
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You say you are rooted, then do a factory reset, and un-root, then you will be able to get the update.
blackguy101 said:
Will this make everything on my phone get deleted?
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Like axman said, flashing with Odin to stock nothing gets deleted. If you do a factory wipe, everything gets deleted.
You could also try to update with kies instead of ota. Maybe that will work.
The problem is not that you removed root you still are using a custom recovery you need to get back to full stock use odin to get the phone back to full stockso you'll have a stock recovery
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Where can I find a good copy of the full stock recovery for odin
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Where can I find a good copy of the full stock recovery for odin
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40976805
Ok folks,
I'm having a hell of a time with my phone.
No matter what rom I flash, seems to have issues from lockups to reboot.
I have tried every kind of wipe in CWM, inluding making sure I have the latest version of CWM and modem, same.
Is there a way to TOTALLY wipe everything on the phone and go back to true factory default, even as far as the phone number programming? Like it was when it came from Splint?
(Yes, I'd then want to unlock with Odin and put a new ROM).
Thanks much!
Watch,read and read some more...
http://qbking77.com/development/how-to-root-the-sprint-and-international-exynos-samsung-galaxy-s4/
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Watch,read and read some more...
http://qbking77.com/development/how-to-root-the-sprint-and-international-exynos-samsung-galaxy-s4/
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Thank you, that'll come in handy one I wipe this thing to oblivion but how do I get to that point?!
I want no trace of any setting, rom, nothing left except a brand new spankin phone.
If you are already rooted ande won't to go back to a completely stock phone use this method..Make sure to watch the Video a couple times before attempting..
http://qbking77.com/development/how-to-unroot-and-unbrick-the-samsung-galaxy-s4/
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If you are already rooted ande won't to go back to a completely stock phone use this method..Make sure to watch the Video a couple times before attempting..
http://qbking77.com/development/how-to-unroot-and-unbrick-the-samsung-galaxy-s4/
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Is this a TOTAL Wipe?
He says internal storage wont be wiped, so how is it a total wipe?
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Is this a TOTAL Wipe?
He says internal storage wont be wiped, so how is it a total wipe?
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Yes it will put the phone back to when you took it out of the box..I think he means that if you have any files that you downloaded to the internal storage ie pics,music,contacts things like that they won't be touched.
Just download the Odin file and the Sprint file which is the stock software the phone came with and use is procedure.
Just to worn you The Sprint file is large and will take awhile to download to your comp
Get the full mf9 tar.md5. Remove sd card. Flash with pc Odin. After phone boots up to home screen and settles down, don't set up anything. Go into settings, accounts, backup, then do full factory reset with wipe of internal storage. After it reboots and settles down again, you're completely back to stock. No need to wipe your phone number and associated settings. If it were me, I'd stay away from custom roms if they're giving you nothing but problems.
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I'd stay away from custom roms if they're giving you nothing but problems.
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That's what I did just rooted the mf9 and got rid of all the bloat.No problems to speak of..
Not to be unappreciative, but, w/o a reset all the data was still there.
Which makes me nervous wondering if there is some crap left over.
Yes, I realize a wipe will get rid of the apps but I want to make sure I'm truly starting from point 0.
beachcomp.com said:
Not to be unappreciative, but, w/o a reset all the data was still there.
Which makes me nervous wondering if there is some crap left over.
Yes, I realize a wipe will get rid of the apps but I want to make sure I'm truly starting from point 0.
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Simple if rooted have twrp installed and select to wipe everything. Then Odin back to stock unrooted.
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beachcomp.com said:
Ok folks,
I'm having a hell of a time with my phone.
No matter what rom I flash, seems to have issues from lockups to reboot.
I have tried every kind of wipe in CWM, inluding making sure I have the latest version of CWM and modem, same.
Is there a way to TOTALLY wipe everything on the phone and go back to true factory default, even as far as the phone number programming? Like it was when it came from Splint?
(Yes, I'd then want to unlock with Odin and put a new ROM).
Thanks much!
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Yeah, you can do a factory reset with Odin. Here's the stock ROM: Stock
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Repartition?
No, just do auto boot (or some option like that) and f.reset time
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So if you are on MF9 good luck with going back to stock everything. Because the methods mentioned above don't get rid of the MF9 Firmware just the Build. Also You have use triangle away which only works on MDC and MDL to get to fully clean stock. Everything mentioned in this thread will not do what you want if you are wanting it out of the box like new condition.
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So if you are on MF9 good luck with going back to stock everything. Because the methods mentioned above don't get rid of the MF9 Firmware just the Build. Also You have use triangle away which only works on MDC and MDL to get to fully clean stock. Everything mentioned in this thread will not do what you want if you are wanting it out of the box like new condition.
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So,what are the steps necessary to bring it back to "brand new, out of the box, condition"?
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So,what are the steps necessary to bring it back to "brand new, out of the box, condition"?
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That is a great question. I have another thread about it but I tried last night with no luck.
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So when I was going about freezing and deleting thing I mistakenly deleted the gallery instead of freezing it since I was switching over to quickpic. I have the note 3 gallery.apk and I placed it in the systems/pri-app with the following permissions (RW-R-R) I rebooted and it showed up and when I tapped it it force closed before it even opened but it did have me sign back into my google account so I'd have all my photos. I even fixed permissions using rom manager and still no go.
I am rooted on 4.4.2 on T-mobile and have twrp recovery but I'm on a stock rom.
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Try to clear data and cached from app manager? Let it rebuild again.
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Ok I'll try that.
Tried that and it didn't work.
Any other ideas?
Tried a full ROM non-wipe reflash in Odin?
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Tried a full ROM non-wipe reflash in Odin?
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Hadn't. So just like flash a stock rom without wiping anything via odin? I only ask because last time I actually was flashing roms was on my HTC One via recovery.
whymista said:
Hadn't. So just like flash a stock rom without wiping anything via odin? I only ask because last time I actually was flashing roms was on my HTC One via recovery.
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Yep. Any missing stock/system .apks will be reinstalled and you shouldn't lose any data. Probably best to do a backup first, and flashing the same stock ROM as your current one should minimise the already small chance of anything messing up.
Actually, can't see any reason not to use TWRP for the flash either, since you already have it.
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Yep.
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I won't have to re-root though or will I?
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I won't have to re-root though or will I?
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Sorry, crossed posts. I don't think you'll have to re-root but am not 100% sure, I'm not on a stock ROM.
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Sorry, crossed posts. I don't think you'll have to re-root but am not 100% sure, I'm not on a stock ROM.
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Yea I couldn't remember its been a while since I flashed roms but I don't ever remember having to re-root when flashing them. I'm just trying to find a rooted stock 4.4.2 rom now
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Yea I couldn't remember its been a while since I flashed roms but I don't ever remember having to re-root when flashing them. I'm just trying to find a rooted stock 4.4.2 rom now
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if you reflash stock firmware, u will need to reroot again.
Though u never do a full wipe. The supersu is there, but the binary is gone (can't install the binary).
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I won't have to re-root though or will I?
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If you flash the stock rom with Mobile Odin Pro you`ll keep root (if you check Everroot, superSU and Mobile Odin)
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if you reflash stock firmware, u will need to reroot again.
Though u never do a full wipe. The supersu is there, but the binary is gone (can't install the binary).
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Thanks. Yea I got it and the gallery back!:good:
Well it sort of works. It allows me to view pictures open and close albums and at first would allow me to multi select albums or picures but now as soon as I long press one it gives me the unfortunately gallery has closed message and I cleared the data/cache to no avail.
Hi!
I just backed up my phone using CWM on my SD card and i wiped it but now i cannot get back to CWM! I am stuck on the stock phone, all of my data is gone, I tired installing CWM again but it just doesnt show up!
Also, KNOX got tripped for some reason!
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE try to help me, i'm honestly freaking out.
thank you!
REflash cwm and uncheck auto-reboot before flash.
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REflash cwm and uncheck auto-reboot before flash.
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I did reflash CWM and it still doesnt come! thank you for helping but im honestly so crushed after this. i really really wanna get back to my backup.
Hanzva said:
Hi!
I just backed up my phone using CWM on my SD card and i wiped it but now i cannot get back to CWM! I am stuck on the stock phone, all of my data is gone, I tired installing CWM again but it just doesnt show up!
Also, KNOX got tripped for some reason!
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE try to help me, i'm honestly freaking out.
thank you!
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Hi mate,
first of all calm....
Please more details , what S4 you have?
What rom you had and what rom you have now
please explain what you mean with I am stuck on the stock phone you mean stock recovery?
What cwm recovery you were using ? how are you re installing it?
You made a nandroid backup?
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Hi mate,
first of all calm....
Please more details , what S4 you have?
What rom you had and what rom you have now
please explain what you mean with I am stuck on the stock phone you mean stock recovery?
What cwm recovery you were using ? how are you re installing it?
You made a nandroid backup?
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I have the i9505, everything is stock. Stock Rom before, everything. I just rooted my phone yesterday.
I meant both. My phone, software, everything is stock. Its as if it came from the box. I can, of course, just re isntall everything but I had SO MANY things.
I am using i9505 CWM Recovery 6.0.3.2
I installed it and reinstalled it using Odin3 v3.09
And yes I did, but i cant get back to it because i cant access CWM.
thank you so much for helping!
I cant help but get freaked out as I LOVED my s4 so much but now its as if i didnt own it.
i give up. i think i'll just reinstall everything back and set everything up again. this gives me the opportunity to clean everything i guess. no custom roms for me. thanks everyone!
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i give up. i think i'll just reinstall everything back and set everything up again. this gives me the opportunity to clean everything i guess. no custom roms for me. thanks everyone!
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Did you uncheck auto-reboot before flashing?
And yes I think a stock rom would be better for you. You shouldn't pannic when something goes wrong. It's almost impossible to brick your s4.
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i give up. i think i'll just reinstall everything back and set everything up again. this gives me the opportunity to clean everything i guess. no custom roms for me. thanks everyone!
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Lennyz1988 said:
Did you uncheck auto-reboot before flashing?
And yes I think a stock rom would be better for you. You shouldn't pannic when something goes wrong. It's almost impossible to brick your s4.
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That is an option , start from o
+1 Lennyz1988
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That is an option , start from o
+1 Lennyz1988
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thank you all so much i actually think its better off this way, i only installed the apps i actually used, getting rid of around 50% of my apps. still keeping an eye out for battery life though, and the camera is still unusable.