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Who knew a MONDAY would be such an awesome day! New OTA Update MF9 as 1st reported HERE by @jonathanhtc . Any questions can go here guys....
I'll start off with a question I have: Does this mean that all of our mods will have to be re-done to be able to be flashed on the new update? ie: Hotspot mod, 4 in 1 reboot mod, etc. all have to be re-done to be able to work on the new software update?!
Question that's on everyones mind is:
Are the bootloaders locked? That "Secure boot status: Samsung" thing was not there before if I remember correctly.
xonone said:
Question that's on everyones mind is:
Are the bootloaders locked? That "Secure boot status: Samsung" thing was not there before if I remember correctly.
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That's why I'm definitely waiting till the devs take a look at it before I download it. It definitely wasn't there with MDC and MDL.
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Yes same here. BUT some new things that were reported are: Transparent notification bar with any wallpaper, new smart pause toggle, smoother UI (less lag), move apps to SD card, and KNOX is finally deployed along with Briefing and SPDclient.
First things first. Let's see what partitions got an update.
And someone should put a bug in Agat's ear to patch his kernel with the latest updates.
garwynn said:
First things first. Let's see what partitions got an update.
And someone should put a bug in Agat's ear to patch his kernel with the latest updates.
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I already posted in his thread about an hour ago that source is up
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I wonder if this is basically the same update that the international version got. Hopefully it is, and it fixes the "smearing issue" and also we get the HDR video recording!
I heard people were unable to unlock to use internationally. Some said sprint unlocked but software restrictions remained. Do you think this update might fix that? And im not talking for use withing the U.S. mainly outside (Europe)
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Okay, new bootloader, modem, kernel.
2 secondary bootloaders updated as well as rpm and tz.
Interesting that everything backs up to mmcblk0p22 before writing the new one.
Don't recall seeing that in updates for other devices.
New Fingerprint is just swap out MDL with MF9.
As mentioned, Knox is there. Makes me wonder what else was locked down with it.
Updated OCR among many updated binaries.
A lot of the binaries - in particular, vendor blobs - have an update.
I'll need someone to dump the system partition once it's patched for the new vendor files.
Hopefully good news for AOSP builds.
I'm asking to see if the previous sources have any info - but they've already stated not to expect anything.
There are a few questions that need to be figured out:
1) What is in the new bootloader? Are we locked like most of the others?
2) Can we revert bootloaders after flashing - and if so, what does it take to do so?
3) Root on new build?
All of this is going to require a test device, which sadly at the moment I am now without.
All the problems with the N2 left me with a Spare N2 and now without an S4.
xonone said:
Question that's on everyones mind is:
Are the bootloaders locked? That "Secure boot status: Samsung" thing was not there before if I remember correctly.
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bootloader isnt locked, mine is already back to rooted with twrp. that secured by samsung is the new knox stuff, so you can assign your own bootloader chain etc. i dont know all the details nor do i pretend to, but what i do know is its for companies to lock their phones down and not a concern to us
shabbypenguin said:
bootloader isnt locked, mine is already back to rooted with twrp. that secured by samsung is the new knox stuff, so you can assign your own bootloader chain etc. i dont know all the details nor do i pretend to, but what i do know is its for companies to lock their phones down and not a concern to us
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Could you post the steps you used to update & restore root please?
illdini said:
Could you post the steps you used to update & restore root please?
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you apply the ota, flash recovery via odin and then flash supersu. if youd rather skip a step im pretty sure you can use ota root keeper
shabbypenguin said:
you apply the ota, flash recovery via odin and then flash supersu. if youd rather skip a step im pretty sure you can use ota root keeper
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When applying the OTA, were you rooted and flashed with a Custom Recovery (i.e.-CWM or TWRP)? Or were you completely stock?
chenry944 said:
When applying the OTA, were you rooted and flashed with a Custom Recovery (i.e.-CWM or TWRP)? Or were you completely stock?
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Judging by his earlier post I'm guessing custom recovery is probably not the best way to flash.
I have the same question BTW I'm rooted, with TWRP recovery, but stock ROM. Have installed a few mods (hotspot, camera shutter sound disabled. Had XPosed framework installed with a couple of mods, but removed those later).
What would be the safe way for me to install the new update? I actually like some of the features that Samsung added, so not looking to switch away from stock ROM for now.
I'm hoping that knowledgeable developers will provide guidance in the next few days
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Judging by his earlier post I'm guessing custom recovery is probably not the best way to flash
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Yea I read that post I am just trying to get clarification for myself and everyone else in which way he did flash it.
shabbypenguin said:
bootloader isnt locked, mine is already back to rooted with twrp. that secured by samsung is the new knox stuff, so you can assign your own bootloader chain etc. i dont know all the details nor do i pretend to, but what i do know is its for companies to lock their phones down and not a concern to us
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Best news of this thread! Thanks for taking the chance!
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yea i was stock odex from crawj and i hit errors while flashing it twrp, i flashed stock kernel and stock recovery and tried and it still failed so i modded teh zip to forcibly install, i now have no mobile data and my modem isnt updated. so my suggestion, dont follow my lead
im currently flashing MDC stock tar to fully update all the way.
Got the Modem Updated to MF9 using Odin without going back to Stock, uploading the odin package now, and will be updating the thread here -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2338919
Does this include the security update Google announced would be coming to OEMs?
Now if i update to mf9, will it affect custom roms that are built around MDL, or AOSP?
Again, sorry if this is in the wrong place but i dont know who else to ask but you guys.
I originally got my galaxy s4 (AT&T) when it first came out and couldnt wait to root and flash. A couple months later i had to do a warranty exchange just to figure out that it came preinstalled with MF3 (damn mf3) i ended up rooting and like most of you guy who arent/wouldnt be able to flash probably are bored. I then had to do another warranty exchange and when i powered the phone on i went to the more tab in settings and the "about device" was blue not yellow. I knew the phone was on an older firmware and i did confirm it to be on MDL (Sigh of relief) right away i started to root and downloading roms. i havent flashed any yet. My question is, on my stock rom (i am rooted) i keep getting a message. the the red and blue arrows for a new software (its that damn mf3) I DONT WANT IT!!! lol is there any way to stop it from asking me. i keep postponing it but i rerad somewhere u can only do that so much, im all nervous that im gonna wake up one morning and see MF3 took over my phone again lol.
sorry for the essay, if anyone has any info on how to stop it from asking that would be very much appreciated!!!
Thanks,
Dave
This should got in the QA forum. You can download a custom rom to get rid of the message or a freeze a few apps. If I were you, I'd get a custom rom, otherwise why would you care about not having MF3.
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Again, sorry if this is in the wrong place but i dont know who else to ask but you guys.
sorry for the essay, if anyone has any info on how to stop it from asking that would be very much appreciated!!!
Thanks,
Dave
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Try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2268946
Good luck
And for future, please post in Q & A section.
Or do this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=41424569&postcount=4
And i would freeze those apps right away like the 2 links that were post it on top if not MF3 will automatically update you phone so you need to hurry and do this Good Luck!
Custom ROM and MF3
visuelz said:
This should got in the QA forum. You can download a custom rom to get rid of the message or a freeze a few apps. If I were you, I'd get a custom rom, otherwise why would you care about not having MF3.
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So if i do flash a custom rom i dont need to worry about it asking or updating on its own. i just flashed vision x ROM TW with Ktoones Kernel and i am loving the rom so far. But if i just keep a custom rom i dont have to worry about the update doing it by itself or freezing it?
Thanks to all the answers,
David
ddix585 said:
So if i do flash a custom rom i dont need to worry about it asking or updating on its own. i just flashed vision x ROM TW with Ktoones Kernel and i am loving the rom so far. But if i just keep a custom rom i dont have to worry about the update doing it by itself or freezing it?
Thanks to all the answers,
David
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That is correct, good sir. If you froze the update apps/apks you will not be prompt for an update.
However, if you do end up odin'ing your phone for some reason, be sure to quickly block the update by rooting your phone and freeze once again. Odin removes root
Enjoy your custom rom as you are one of the lucky ones still on the old MDL update :good:
My Sprint Samsung Galaxy S4 (rooted with CF-Auto-Root) has been repeatedly downloading and notifying me of a 398.8MB update. It comes up every couple of weeks and I have allowed it to install several times.
I maintain root after the reboot, but it keeps coming back. I'm currently on Android version 4.3 (MK2 build).
Is there anything I can do to get past this update and hopefully get 4.4?
Thanks in advance.
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My Sprint Samsung Galaxy S4 (rooted with CF-Auto-Root) has been repeatedly downloading and notifying me of a 398.8MB update. It comes up every couple of weeks and I have allowed it to install several times.
I maintain root after the reboot, but it keeps coming back. I'm currently on Android version 4.3 (MK2 build).
Is there anything I can do to get past this update and hopefully get 4.4?
Thanks in advance.
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I am not sure you can stop the update box from going away (short of a custom rom).
I believe you just have to deal with it, if you want to stay on 4.3
VandyCWG said:
I am not sure you can stop the update box from going away (short of a custom rom).
I believe you just have to deal with it, if you want to stay on 4.3
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Hi Vandy. Sorry if I wasn't clear in my question. I don't want to stay on 4.3...I want to get to 4.4 (Kit Kat), but it seems like I'm stuck on this 389.8MB update that keeps coming back even after I have allowed it to install.
I'm hoping that someone else has experienced this "repeated" update and can tell me how I can go about moving past it so that I can get to some newer updates.
Thanks - Chung in NYC
Your best option is to install the full NAE stock tar file with Odin. The update is failing because you either have a custom recovery installed, modified system files, or deleted something. OTAs can't complete unless your stock. Look for a thread from random45 in the android development thread and download the NAE stock tar from there. You won't lose any of your data, but you will have to reroot your phone afterwards.
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cruise350 said:
Your best option is to install the full NAE stock tar file with Odin. The update is failing because you either have a custom recovery installed, modified system files, or deleted something. OTAs can't complete unless your stock. Look for a thread from random45 in the android development thread and download the NAE stock tar from there. You won't lose any of your data, but you will have to reroot your phone afterwards.
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Thanks a lot - I will try that now!
- Chung in NYC:good:
Hello there,
I've had an AT&T Galaxy S4 for about a year now and I've been on custom ROMs since January of this year. When I was last on Stock, I had Android 4.2.2 Jellybean. Recently, I've been running into a lot of problems with my ROM so I tried installing other ROMs only to find more issues that were bothering me. I decided to just go back to stock but I was curious as to whether taking an OTA update will ruin my root? I do apologize for asking this but I'm still rather new at this. I was also curious if taking the OTA will remove my custom recovery as well as re-lock my bootloader? If I'm not supplying enough information for someone to determine the answer, please let me know and I'll provide that information.
BrokeEven said:
Hello there,
I've had an AT&T Galaxy S4 for about a year now and I've been on custom ROMs since January of this year. When I was last on Stock, I had Android 4.2.2 Jellybean. Recently, I've been running into a lot of problems with my ROM so I tried installing other ROMs only to find more issues that were bothering me. I decided to just go back to stock but I was curious as to whether taking an OTA update will ruin my root? I do apologize for asking this but I'm still rather new at this. I was also curious if taking the OTA will remove my custom recovery as well as re-lock my bootloader? If I'm not supplying enough information for someone to determine the answer, please let me know and I'll provide that information.
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One question my bro, what galaxy s4 do you have?
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I don't know the specific model name but I know it's the Galaxy S4 for AT&T
BrokeEven said:
I don't know the specific model name but I know it's the Galaxy S4 for AT&T
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If you don't know what model you're on you shouldn't be rooted. The at&t version is the i337, and yes if the ota works you'll lose root.
And questions go in the q&a forum, not general
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you need to know your build first, so you can install right .tar
odin will replace everything. except sdcards. best to back up cards anyway and/or pull ext card.
use terminal emulator and type in
SU
getprop ro.bootloader
it will give you your build--:good:
btw your bootloader was never unlocked on an i337.
EDIT: Beat me jd
Oh really? Cuz whenever I turn my phone on it shows a pad lock unlocked. The same animation appeared on my Galaxy Nexus when I had it so I just assumed the bootloader was unlocked
No, that comes up in the rooting process. The i337 has not been unlocked. There is an exploit called loki-doki for pre MF3 builds that bypasses Sammy's security checks. It allows those of us on early build to flash custom recoveries/kernels. Otherwise you need to use SafeStrap and only TW roms. If you are not familiar with SafeStrap then you are probably on a pre MF3 build.
Some people refer to the exploit as unlocking the phone. That's incorrect though--
You should get the ota root keeper, it backs up the root, then after ota update, you can restore back.
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Hey guys,
I ran a search but I don't understand half the things people are writing. I would greatly appreciate it if someone could please explain to me my options. In layman's terms, as I do not understand half the abbreviations and jargons here.
I rooted my phone over a year ago and really don't remember much about the process. I can't download important apps from Google Play anymore as they require newer versions than 4.2.2... So I'm stuck on this old version and need to update ASAP.
I have ONLY rooted the phone. I haven't done any mods or installed any ROMS. It's on stock AT&T Rom. (sometimes I wonder why I even bothered in the first place).
Can someone please point me in the right direction, I want a regular STOCK AT&T newest version, whether it stays rooted or not that's fine, but a newer version, KitKat preferably. What are my options? The simplest method would help me the most.
Things I really need backed up: My Text Messages, Voicemail, Call Logs, Whatsapp Messages etc. What is the best way to back that up? If I use Titanium Backup, and I don't have root after I update, Titanium Backup would be obsolete. So what would my other option?
Please help.
Much appreciated,
Are you sure you want to update from 4.2.2. You probably have the option to flash custom roms on your phone. There are many custom roms that that'll put 4.4.4 on your phone. Since you're rooted get terminal emulator from the play store. In it type
getprop ro.bootloader
If the last three characters are mdb or mdl you have a lot of options. I can help walk you through on how to get a custom rom on your phone.
You can update your firmware and bootloader to 4.4.4 too but you'll lose the option to flash most custom roms.
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jd1639 said:
Are you sure you want to update from 4.2.2. You probably have the option to flash custom roms on your phone. There are many custom roms that that'll put 4.4.4 on your phone. Since you're rooted get terminal emulator from the play store. In it type
getprop ro.bootloader
If the last three characters are mdb or mdl you have a lot of options. I can help walk you through on how to get a custom rom on your phone.
You can update your firmware and bootloader to 4.4.4 too but you'll lose the option to flash most custom roms.
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Thanks bud,
I got I337UCUAMF3
I'll be honest, I haven't really messed with any custom ROMS before. I just use the stock AT&T one. But I would like to upgrade to KitKat so my phone is faster and can download / upgrade the latest Apps. Lollipop isn't out for the AT&T Samsung S4 right?
Kepela523 said:
Thanks bud,
I got I337UCUAMF3
I'll be honest, I haven't really messed with any custom ROMS before. I just use the stock AT&T one. But I would like to upgrade to KitKat so my phone is faster and can download / upgrade the latest Apps. Lollipop isn't out for the AT&T Samsung S4 right?
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Will the phone Not download the latest 4.4.4 from the phone settings?? Settings/More/About Device/Software Update. It must be connected to WiFi to download!!! Or you can get the AT&T S4 i337 to Stock 4.4.4 NJ4 Kit Kat Scroll down this page, easy to do. http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-att/general/guide-odin-to-stock-updating-rooting-t2926642
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Will the phone Not download the latest 4.4.4 from the phone settings?? Settings/More/About Device/Software Update. It must be connected to WiFi to download!!!
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No. My phone is rooted... Is it supposed to download to 4.4? And also couldn't there be issues with that?
I found this post. So I know this is ONE option: But I'll lose my Root. Which is fine if that's my only option.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2728462
As the OP says, I will lose ROOT. So my question would be, If I back up using Titanium Backup, how can I restore my backup if Titanium Backup works only on ROOT? This is very important.
@ jd1639 - He had mentioned there were several other options, so I will wait to hear them, and I can make a decision from there. Otherwise, I may have to fork out another $150 - $200 Bucks on a Samsung Galaxy S5 or S6. depending which suits my needs.
Many thanks for the replies!
Kepela523 said:
I found this post. So I know this is ONE option: But I'll lose my Root. Which is fine if that's my only option.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2728462
As the OP says, I will lose ROOT. So my question would be, If I back up using Titanium Backup, how can I restore my backup if Titanium Backup works only on ROOT? This is very important.
@ jd1639 - He had mentioned there were several other options, so I will wait to hear them, and I can make a decision from there. Otherwise, I may have to fork out another $150 - $200 Bucks on a Samsung Galaxy S5 or S6. depending which suits my needs.
Many thanks for the replies!
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You're on mf3 bootloader which doesn't really allow you to flash any roms anyway. You'd have to use safestrap.
What I'd do is flash the nb1 tar file in Odin. That'll update you to 4.4 and the device should then ota update itself from there. You will lose root, you can root it again if you want. See this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=50912149
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jd1639 said:
You're on mf3 bootloader which doesn't really allow you to flash any roms anyway. You'd have to use safestrap.
What I'd do is flash the nb1 tar file in Odin. That'll update you to 4.4 and the device should then ota update itself from there. You will lose root, you can root it again if you want. See this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=50912149
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Thanks JD, do you know if this wipes my phone? In other words, does it factory reset my phone?
Yes Flash the NB1 Stock file as he said. But you are going to loose Root and any pictures etc. stored on phone memory, so copy them to your PC or SD card. I always like to take SD card out just in case when I flash just in case it may erase it. But after you flash NB1 Stock or the Stock Root it is like a phone and have to set it up. Then it should Update to 4.4.4 itself from the settings/ Software update. Good luck. Any problem let us now.
Ah cheers,
Last question: Do you recommend the First or second option?
I337UCUFNB1_4.4_Stock_Odin_tar
I337UCUFNB1_4.4_Rootable_Stock_Odin_tar
Just a bit confusing as why he would post two separate links? I'm interpreting the first cannot be rooted ever.
Thanks again to the both of you for helping with this.
Kepela523 said:
Ah cheers,
Last question: Do you recommend the First or second option?
I337UCUFNB1_4.4_Stock_Odin_tar
I337UCUFNB1_4.4_Rootable_Stock_Odin_tar
Just a bit confusing as why he would post two separate links? I'm interpreting the first cannot be rooted ever.
Thanks again to the both of you for helping with this.
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It's possible to root even the 4.4.4. It just gets a little trickier to do it and you have to flash modules in Odin. In the general forum see "all things at&t....." by guut13
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Kepela523 said:
Ah cheers,
Last question: Do you recommend the First or second option?
I337UCUFNB1_4.4_Stock_Odin_tar
I337UCUFNB1_4.4_Rootable_Stock_Odin_tar
Just a bit confusing as why he would post two separate links? I'm interpreting the first cannot be rooted ever.
Thanks again to the both of you for helping with this.
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Yep I think you are correct. So if you want to root again use the Rootable to flash in Odin. Once you go from Jelly Bean to Kit Kat bootloaders are Locked for some .tar Same for Lollipop, they have not been able to root and unlock bootloader as yet. Just follow the steps and take your time and all will be good. Have done it several times on mine with Odin.
Hey guys, I just wanted to take the time and thank you both for the help. I finally updated today. After backing up all my data and making sure everything was safe to go. Bam! I did exactly as you suggested and had zero issues... I am now on 4.4.2
There were a couple hiccups along the way, but I figured them out without too much of a hassle.
Cheers again and best of luck to the both of you!