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I just got the HTC One and the phone itself is great. That being said, I have one pretty large complaint...I've never had a phone that charges slower than this in my life. Is anyone else experiencing brutally slow charging speeds? Probably take 5 minutes for it to charge 1% which means it would take over 8 hours to get to 100%. Is this really possible?
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I just got the HTC One and the phone itself is great. That being said, I have one pretty large complaint...I've never had a phone that charges slower than this in my life. Is anyone else experiencing brutally slow charging speeds? Probably take 5 minutes for it to charge 1% which means it would take over 8 hours to get to 100%. Is this really possible?
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Bro, before you make assumptions, give the battery a couple cycles to settle itself.
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Bro, before you make assumptions, give the battery a couple cycles to settle itself.
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I understand the battery needs to be trained but I've purchased hundreds of mobile devices in my life. Never has even an initial charge taken anywhere close to this long.
Is this using the supplied charger? Any processes running in the background that could be keeping the phone awake using power?
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I understand the battery needs to be trained but I've purchased hundreds of mobile devices in my life. Never has even an initial charge taken anywhere close to this long.
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I know it helped with the old nickel cadmium batteries, but I've been under the impression that conditioning doesn't do anything with today's lithium ion batteries, that they are as good as they will get right out of the box.
Charge time Is a lot less than 8 hours normally. That said, it is still a slow charging phone compared to my previous few phones. However it is not too bad to be a complaint from me. We also have to be aware that the battery is a little bigger than the previous generation of phones, so it would take longer to charge anyway.
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Is this using the supplied charger? Any processes running in the background that could be keeping the phone awake using power?
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Yes this is using the supplied charger. Did a little searching online and it seems that there are others who have this issue. It was noted in the Anantech review as well as the following quote from the Droid Life review:
On a related note, the One takes forever to fully charge. I’m not sure why that is, but no matter what charger I seemed to grab when needing some juice, I found myself checking the status of the battery meter far more often than on other phones in my possession.
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http://www.droid-life.com/2013/04/17/htc-one-review/
My phone needs about 4h to completely charge.
From Anandtech, the rationale is that Qualcomms fast charging is disabled in an effort to preserve the integrity of the battery's longevity; since you know, its sealed and has a repairability rating of 0. The Gs4 will probably crank that fast charge up and the user can replace the batteries as often as he deems necessary.
slow charging time seems a pretty fair trade off for a slow discharging time also right?
Riyal said:
slow charging time seems a pretty fair trade off for a slow discharging time also right?
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Isn't that unrelated?
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From Anandtech, the rationale is that Qualcomms fast charging is disabled in an effort to preserve the integrity of the battery's longevity; since you know, its sealed and has a repairability rating of 0. The Gs4 will probably crank that fast charge up and the user can replace the batteries as often as he deems necessary.
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Probably this. In the end it is for the users benefit.
I was thinking, even my note 2 don't take more than 3 hours to charge. Heck even my 6200 hyperion battery takes about 5.
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NextNexus said:
I just got the HTC One and the phone itself is great. That being said, I have one pretty large complaint...I've never had a phone that charges slower than this in my life. Is anyone else experiencing brutally slow charging speeds? Probably take 5 minutes for it to charge 1% which means it would take over 8 hours to get to 100%. Is this really possible?
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You shouldn't fully discharge. And my battery with the HTC charger does not that much longer than other smartphones but agree the S3 is a little quicker to charge.
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What’s interesting however is that the charge curve gets the One to 85–90 percent under the normal 3 or so hours, it’s that last ten percent that takes forever
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Maybe they designed it so that the user would be discouraged to fully charge the phone, and thus completing fewer cycles?
If it's just the last ten percent that takes such a long time, I'm not too worried about it. There are few situations during the day that I'd have to charge the phone to 100%, other than an overnight charge.
NextNexus said:
I just got the HTC One and the phone itself is great. That being said, I have one pretty large complaint...I've never had a phone that charges slower than this in my life. Is anyone else experiencing brutally slow charging speeds? Probably take 5 minutes for it to charge 1% which means it would take over 8 hours to get to 100%. Is this really possible?
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It's a pretty big batter, to start. But you're probably not getting much current to the phone. If you charge from the USB on a computer, you're hardly getting any current to the phone so it's going to charge very slowly.
The faster chargers are 2A chargers. I have a 2A car charger that came with my Nexus One car dock I've been using for a long time and it's the fastest charger I've seen out of all of them. All of my phones (and friends' phones) have charged must faster with that charger.
I have a 1.5A AC charger too. It's still not as fast as my 2A car charger, but I'm also inside at that point, so it doesn't matter. But most chargers I've seen are 1A or less. Those are slow.
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I know it helped with the old nickel cadmium batteries, but I've been under the impression that conditioning doesn't do anything with today's lithium ion batteries, that they are as good as they will get right out of the box.
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It's not the battery you're conditioning. It's the battery stats on the phone. The phone needs to "get to know" the battery to accurately describe its status.
Charge time should be a tad under 4 hours on AC, so I would say something appears to be wrong. Unless of course you're doing something heavy on battery) gaming/navigation) during charging.
what scm_crash said. pick up a 2A charger if you really need juice fast, otherwise it's probably designed to simply charge overnight for longevity
I always use my nexus 7 charger (2A) when i need juice on the spot.
It's ridiculous that people here think that the HTC one is not reparable ,so HTC designed a phone that can't be open ? What if you break your screen ? So instead of repairing your screen and be charged 180 $€£ for example ,HTC will charge you 599 for a new phone cause the phone is unreparable? That's ridiculous.HTC made the phone,HTC knows how to open the phone ,HTC will put phone back together again period.
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It's ridiculous that people here think that the HTC one is not reparable ,so HTC designed a phone that can't be open ? What if you break your screen ? So instead of repairing your screen and be charged 180 $€£ for example ,HTC will charge you 599 for a new phone cause the phone is unreparable? That's ridiculous.HTC made the phone,HTC knows how to open the phone ,HTC will put phone back together again period.
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It is strange that this forum suddenly has a lot of new negative misinformed posts just when the One is being launched in the USA.
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actually it's not comparable coz the volume of the battery aren't the same.
you can also check the charger's specs , a 2300mha battery charged by a 1A charger, that's approximately 2.7 hrs.
still, for the first time it took more than half an hour to charge from 99% to 100% and the LED to turn green, that was strange. probably because I deleted the battery stat file for calibration
I generally try not to charge my note 2 overnight. I want this battery to be healthy as long as possible, so I don't want it to sit at high voltages for too long.
Normally my note 2 is around 80 percent when I go to sleep so I don't plug it in at night, I just plug it in in the morning for an hour before going to work. It reaches 100 and then I remove it.
The times when my battery is much lower that I won't be able to charge it in the morning in the hour, I do charge it overnight.
What I've noticed is that the battery drains much slower on the days it's been on the charger overnight.
So I'm thinking that the charger will continue to raise the voltage even after it reaches 100%. Maybe someone has some other thoughts, but I just wanted to share what I've noticed so people are careful with their battery.
Hi,
Charge it yhe way you want. Don't stress on it.
But for a few tips:
Don't let the lithium-ion battery go down to critical battery levels before charge.
Don't put the battery on the refrigerator.
Don't over charge it even if it's a new battery .
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Hi,
Charge it yhe way you want. Don't stress on it.
But for a few tips:
Don't let the lithium-ion battery go down to critical battery levels before charge.
Don't put the battery on the refrigerator.
Don't over charge it even if it's a new battery .
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So basically i can't charge the battery overnight? I don't understand the meaning of don't overcharge it.
Raging_Ken said:
So basically i can't charge the battery overnight? I don't understand the meaning of don't overcharge it.
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You can but can potentially damage the battery. It's up to you.
I'm going to disagree with you guys. The charger and the battery has overcharging protection built in. So don't speculate with overcharging overnight. In fact when the phone has stayed longer on the charger I got better battery life. Cheers
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kirilorius said:
I'm going to disagree with you guys. The charger and the battery has overcharging protection built in. So don't speculate with overcharging overnight. In fact when the phone has stayed longer on the charger I got better battery life. Cheers
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Yes, I know. So why would you charge your phone overnight? So it would stay 100% when you wake up?
I charge my phone overnight everyday.
The battery magnet would trigger the charger into trickle mode. This prevents overcharging.
Li-ion battery prefers to be charged then discharged. Contrary to hearsays, discharging it to critical levels too often would actually degrade battery life.
My Nexus one of 2 years still maintained a 84% charge because of this.
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Yes, I know. So why would you charge your phone overnight? So it would stay 100% when you wake up?
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Cause i'm using it all day till 1-2 o'clock at night and thats the only time i can charge my phone. And with the heavy usage im putting it the battery cant hold more then 15-16 hours
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The battery have both overcharging and undercharging protection.
So there is no problem charging your phone overnight, the battery will stop charging when it is full. It will then be allowed to discharge a bit and the charging cycle will resume. The fluctuations caused by this charge/discharge cycle are usually hidden by the firmware so that you only see 100% - charged.
As for undercharging, it can indeed kill batteries, but it won't happen unless you drain the battery completely *and* let it self-discharge for a few weeks.
You don't have to adopt a specific charging pattern to keep your battery in good shape, just do what's most convenient for you.
Some tips however :
- Avoid high temperatures, batteries don't like it. The fridge is actually a good place to store your batteries provided that you took the necessary steps to prevent condensation.
- Store unused Li-Ion batteries at about 50% charge. Fully charged batteries have a lower shelf life, the 50% are there to prevent self-discharge from causing undercharging.
- A full discharge-charge cycle won't make your battery healthier but it is useful to recalibrate the power gauge.
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Cause i'm using it all day till 1-2 o'clock at night and thats the only time i can charge my phone. And with the heavy usage im putting it the battery cant hold more then 15-16 hours
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I see. Well, in your case it may be better.
Because during the night it gets more time to detect the proper voltage and stop.
And the battery is removable for a reason. It'll have over 80% original capacity even after 2000 discharges and it's only $20 at most to replace. No need to stress it over. Use it all you want and replace it the time comes. Leave the stressing over to the non-replaceable guys.
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BBlax said:
Because during the night it gets more time to detect the proper voltage and stop.
And the battery is removable for a reason. It'll have over 80% original capacity even after 2000 discharges and it's only $20 at most to replace. No need to stress it over. Use it all you want and replace it the time comes. Leave the stressing over to the non-replaceable guys.
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Exactly.
If said battery full unplug charger, i let the phone still connect to charger moreless 1 hour...
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If said battery full unplug charger, i let the phone still connect to charger moreless 1 hour...
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Why anyone stresses over a $20 user replaceable part is beyond me. I think you're too used to iPhones
kebabs said:
Why anyone stresses over a $20 user replaceable part is beyond me. I think you're too used to iPhones
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I love eating kebabs. LOL :cyclops:
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And the battery is removable for a reason. It'll have over 80% original capacity even after 2000 discharges
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You telling me if i charge once a day, the battery will still have over 80% charge after 6 years of years? I find that hard to believe as all my previous batteries have to be replaced after 2 to 3 years of use.
That's the quote from manufacturers under ideal conditions. The only devices that I haven't threw out for that long are laptops and the battery in them are still working flawlessly and holds a reasonable charge.
Even tiny LSD batteries can have up to 1000 charges so higher capacity ones will last longer and be more durable due to the increased amount of cells. Just like how higher capacity nand will last longer than lower ones.
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It's a 30 battery. Treat it like **** and just replace it when it dies! By the time it's dead you'll be wanting a new phone anyway.
anybody know when the time is best to recharge the phone battery?
because i heard that lithium battery should not empty before recharge... and if i empty battery (1%) , this damage the battery
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anybody know when the time is best to recharge the phone battery?
because i heard that lithium battery should not empty before recharge... and if i empty battery (1%) , this damage the battery
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about 20% is the best time i read somewhere
jaythenut said:
about 20% is the best time i read somewhere
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if i empty the battery, is damage my battery??
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if i empty the battery, is damage my battery??
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If you do it to often it will shorten the battery life
wait till it asks You to charge , I guess that message is for this . Connect your charger ! under 15% Phone tells You itself
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anybody know when the time is best to recharge the phone battery?
because i heard that lithium battery should not empty before recharge... and if i empty battery (1%) , this damage the battery
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Above are all incorrect!
Charge at 50% and you can do it about 1500 times.
Charge at 20% and you can do it about 700 times.
Source: lots of places and lots of experience, but alse here for you to read: http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries (oh and "100% DoD" means fully drained battery!)
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wait till it asks You to charge , I guess that message is for this . Connect your charger ! under 15% Phone tells You itself
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I hope you dont do that for all your phones as it will destroy your battery way sooner. Charge it when it reaches 50% and you can do 3 to 5 years with the battery at 24/7 use. (Instead of the 1 to 2 years when draining the battery).
Yes, it is recommended to charge the battery when it below 40% and disconnect the charger when it reach 99%. Do not overchange.
There was a big test I did read and the best was to keep it between 40 and 80 percent.
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charge it when it prompts you to charge. at 19% you start getting the first recommendation in lockscreen, then at 15% you even get an annoying prompt.
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Are you guys seriously sitting and watching until the battery goes down to certain percentage? And for what? Battery is easy to replace and not that expensive, it has a circuit to protect it from over and under charging, to avoid the damage and you get many more shallow charge/discharge cycles than deep ones as already mentioned. I charge my phone daily in the evening at my convenience, usually before I go sleep regardless of what's left (unless I use it so much it can't last until evening), so by the time I go sleep it's 100% and by morning it will be around 97% and normally last me whole day. I've been doing this for yrs and for example my 4yr old Nokia I gave to my friend, still lasts him couple days of light use on original battery. I wouldn't worry about it at all. Every few months you may want to fully discharge it to lets say 3-5% to have the meter calibrated and maybe clean the contacts with alcohol every six months or so, but that's all the maintenance my battery will get or need. If it fails before the phone, it probably had some factory defect or something, but no big deal as long as there is replacement easy to buy and with so many millions of notes sold, there should be.
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Are you guys seriously sitting and watching until the battery goes down to certain percentage? And for what? Battery is easy to replace and not that expensive, it has a circuit to protect it from over and under charging, to avoid the damage and you get many more shallow charge/discharge cycles than deep ones as already mentioned. I charge my phone daily in the evening at my convenience, usually before I go sleep regardless of what's left (unless I use it so much it can't last until evening), so by the time I go sleep it's 100% and by morning it will be around 97% and normally last me whole day. I've been doing this for yrs and for example my 4yr old Nokia I gave to my friend, still lasts him couple days of light use on original battery. I wouldn't worry about it at all. Every few months you may want to fully discharge it to lets say 3-5% to have the meter calibrated and maybe clean the contacts with alcohol every six months or so, but that's all the maintenance my battery will get or need. If it fails before the phone, it probably had some factory defect or something, but no big deal as long as there is replacement easy to buy and with so many millions of notes sold, there should be.
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Couldn't agree more, I charge mine on a evening regardless and phone gets me easily through a day. If I notice a massive drop in the battery not holding a charge then I will buy a new one. More important things to worry about in life than watching my percentage for the battery.
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Above are all incorrect!
Charge at 50% and you can do it about 1500 times.
Charge at 20% and you can do it about 700 times.
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That is good as a principle but the numbers are still rather big and depend even more on the charging current - if you charge (even) from 50% with 2000 mAh it will never last 1500 recharges - that is why Samsung has slightly improved the Note 3 recharging algorithm so as to use (variable) lower currents (even if the charger is 2000 mAh), and also why it is still far, far better to recharge from a very good USB at under 500 mAh (actually 450) - and indeed preferably from over 40%.
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That is good as a principle but the numbers are still rather big and depend even more on the charging current - if you charge (even) from 50% with 2000 mAh it will never last 1500 recharges - that is why Samsung has slightly improved the Note 3 recharging algorithm so as to use (variable) lower currents (even if the charger is 2000 mAh), and also why it is still far, far better to recharge from a very good USB at under 500 mAh (actually 450) - and indeed preferably from over 40%.
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As long as the charging current is lower then 1C (1 full charge for the note3 its 3200mAh) its not a problem and wont shorten lifetime.
But yeah charging at lower currents is better, but more due to less heat and induction.
Anyway its just sad that other people with little to no knowledge about lithium batterys are giving advice, and WRONG advice at that.
Just read the link i posted in previous post (page1) there are the facts. Dont believe just anybody, people are stupid. (yeah im people too )
The chemical reaction will be less when battery is drained and is hard to recover.
But if the battery seems dead, put it in the freezer for 2 or 3 hours and it will be recoverable.
Theres more to these batterys than people think.
Would there be a problem with charging the Z2 overnight knowing that is will reach 100% before you wake up, lets say 2-4 hours before you wake up? I have not experienced any over heating with the phone yet but I am worried that it will happen while its charging overnight without me knowing.
I heard that the new batteries stop charging when they reach a 100% is this true?
Yes it will stop charging when it reaches 100%. It's been like that for a while, even my S3 got that.
Leaving it overnight will be no problem (Well should be no problem, I don't have the phone yet)
90 or more % of people do this in that way. There is absolutely no risk. When 100% will be reached, charging will be stopped and phone will use battery power. Eventually after couple hours charger will refill battery ex from 99 to 100%.
Alright that's good to know. my phone is charging right now but its quite cold. Guess the over heating problem was in some devices only.
I thought the overheating problem only occured when recording in 4K. I haven't had any issues with heat except when recording long sessions.
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I also did not hear about overheating during charging over the night...
You can leave it on and not worry about heat, but here's the thing: the phone obviously stops charging at 100%, but once it stopped, the phone starts discharging, then it recharges to 100% again, discharges, recharges and this goes on until you pull it off. So while you can safely leave it on cause nothing dangerous will happen to you or the phone, know that it will be in a charging loop which can't be good for the battery.
Ideal thing would be the phone stopping charging altogether at 100%, and not recharging until hitting like 95%. Right now, when it notices the tiniest drop, it will recharge.
^ True. I think it's really NOT good for battery to be charged overnight.
I've done this with all my smartphones. My s3 have charged almost every night for two years. It still lasts a day. I don't think it harms charging it over night.
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^ True. I think it's really NOT good for battery to be charged overnight.
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So please give us a better, convenient way.
cedropol said:
So please give us a better, convenient way.
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Technology expert "Eric Limer" explaining about overnight charging and quoting the "Battery University" findings....
http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/smar...your-mobile-if-you-want-to-boost-battery-life
I have been recharging my phones overnight without one single issue since my first cell twenty years ago to present.
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Technology expert "Eric Limer" explaining about overnight charging and quoting the "Battery University" findings....
http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/smar...your-mobile-if-you-want-to-boost-battery-life
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really i've heard this for the first time... besides every person has his own say about batteries... I say no matter how you charge the phone, todays batteries are made to last...well atleast a year till you are eligible for an upgrade
I have been charging my Z1 overnight for 7 months now, battery is excellent today, just like when I bought it
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I can quite believe that that expert knows what he is talking about, however, surely the person that has designed the battery charging circuit will be in the best position to understand the workings of the battery?
Why would they design something that is harmful to the battery in normal use?
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I can quite believe that that expert knows what he is talking about, however, surely the person that has designed the battery charging circuit will be in the best position to understand the workings of the battery?
Why would they design something that is harmful to the battery in normal use?
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As an electrical engineer I'd like to point out that having the battery charged is the best you can do if you're using an lithium-ion battery. I read a lot of nonsense in the Internet regarding this matter. Only if you'd like to keep the battery unused for a long time it's good practice to keep it at ~50% (that's why the manufacturers do not charge the battery to 100% when it comes out of the factory).
But you don't have to believe me, it's your battery. Who cares?
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I have been recharging my phones overnight without one single issue since my first cell twenty years ago to present.
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Yeah, but have you been charging the same phone overnight for 12 years?
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Yeah, but have you been charging the same phone overnight for 12 years?
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I keep a phone, on average, about six months.... Ha.
Jackos said:
As an electrical engineer I'd like to point out that having the battery charged is the best you can do if you're using an lithium-ion battery. I read a lot of nonsense in the Internet regarding this matter. Only if you'd like to keep the battery unused for a long time it's good practice to keep it at ~50% (that's why the manufacturers do not charge the battery to 100% when it comes out of the factory).
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I thought they didn't charge it all the way to save energy. I mean how much energy does it take to charge millions of devices.
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I thought they didn't charge it all the way to save energy. I mean how much energy does it take to charge millions of devices.
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That's a myth. The cost is mariginal if you take into account how much energy the whole manufacturing process does consume.
Cmon, lets give the credit where credit is due.
I no longer have to worry about battery charge thanks to this new fast charge thing. 45 mins after having a low battery I'm at 80%... thank god battery charging has finally progressed to this.
I use my phone for music / radio shows all day long. I can't tell you how happy I am to have this fast charge thing.. on the boat, in the car, at work at home, a 30 min charge and my phone is ready to go for HOURS!
Thank you to samsung and the note 4 for FINALLY putting a phone out there that is awesome!!
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Cmon, lets give the credit where credit is due.
I no longer have to worry about battery charge thanks to this new fast charge thing. 45 mins after having a low battery I'm at 80%... thank god battery charging has finally progressed to this.
I use my phone for music / radio shows all day long. I can't tell you how happy I am to have this fast charge thing.. on the boat, in the car, at work at home, a 30 min charge and my phone is ready to go for HOURS!
Thank you to samsung and the note 4 for FINALLY putting a phone out there that is awesome!!
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I agree but I rather swap my battery. When I get down to lets say 5% I don't have to worry about plugging it in. It takes less than a minute to go from 0% to 100% and it's less strain on the charging port and circuit. Plus if you still want to use the phone you don't have to be tethered to a cable.
+1 I love it. Swapping out the batter. LOL Not so much.
Battery swapping really sucks if you have a case on the phone. I vote for fast charging. Beautiful thing! I just need to get a fast car charger and I can charge my phone fully during my commute to work.
...and it's less strain on the charging port and circuit...
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As an electrical engineer, seeing statements like this makes me cringe. I can absolutely assure you that there is no "strain" on the charging circuit, or battery, or anything else for that matter.
The only thing I could say is, possibly, the reduced battery life span due to the additional charge cycles. But charge cycles for modern Li-ion is already really high. But even if I were to entertain the fact that the battery might need to be replaced sooner, who cares. You are buying another battery NOW, vs the possibility of buying another battery in a year or so.
As far as personal preference goes, if a spare battery is your thing, go for it. But please try not to perpetuate the idea that the fast charging circuit or battery can't handle the charging.
I'm more than happy to go over the physics and electrical theory on how charging works. You might be interested to know that in a lab setting we can get charging rates as fast as 1 minute per 1000mAh with minimal heat build up (the major hurdle in improving charging rates)
Fast charging is nothing new. A similar concept are large capacitors, like a camera flash. They charge in seconds. The major engineering challenge is controlling the discharge rate, in most cases the heat build up is limiting factor.
Don't be surprised if the note 5 charges in 0 to 100 in less than 5 min.
Fast Charging + Killer battery life = One Happy Customer
Serinety said:
As an electrical engineer, seeing statements like this makes me cringe. I can absolutely assure you that there is no "strain" on the charging circuit, or battery, or anything else for that matter.
The only thing I could say is, possibly, the reduced battery life span due to the additional charge cycles. But charge cycles for modern Li-ion is already really high. But even if I were to entertain the fact that the battery might need to be replaced sooner, who cares. You are buying another battery NOW, vs the possibility of buying another battery in a year or so.
As far as personal preference goes, if a spare battery is your thing, go for it. But please try not to perpetuate the idea that the fast charging circuit or battery can't handle the charging.
I'm more than happy to go over the physics and electrical theory on how charging works. You might be interested to know that in a lab setting we can get charging rates as fast as 1 minute per 1000mAh with minimal heat build up (the major hurdle in improving charging rates)
Fast charging is nothing new. A similar concept are large capacitors, like a camera flash. They charge in seconds. The major engineering challenge is controlling the discharge rate, in most cases the heat build up is limiting factor.
Don't be surprised if the note 5 charges in 0 to 100 in less than 5 min.
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i love everything about this post, btw. i'd love to know the physics and electrical theory if you ever want to share. it would probably help me to understand which is better for the phone, not that i need it right now, but i'm sure it would be beneficial to have that knowledge. i am one that is a fan of the fast charging, but i've also been looking at Samsung's spare battery charger too. the Korean Note 4 variants actually came WITH the spare battery charger (lucky ducks) but it's going for $45 ish right now on Samsung's website. might not be a bad investment at all, even though my battery life is averaging 12 - 15 hours on a singe charge.
Serinety said:
Fast charging is nothing new. A similar concept are large capacitors, like a camera flash. They charge in seconds. The major engineering challenge is controlling the discharge rate, in most cases the heat build up is limiting factor.
Don't be surprised if the note 5 charges in 0 to 100 in less than 5 min.
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This is true. I had an Energizer battery charger that could charge my AA or AAA batteries in 15 minutes. They got very hot though. This was in the 90's.
alprazolam said:
This is true. I had an Energizer battery charger that could charge my AA or AAA batteries in 15 minutes. They got very hot though. This was in the 90's.
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I had something like this as well. Mine had a fan on it that would attempt to keep things cool. I have an Ego lawn mower that can charge the HUGE battery pack that goes in it up by 50% in 15 minutes, and it sits on a big charging base with a huge, loud fan. That's a little different than charging a cell phone battery or AA/AAA batteries.
+1 on the fast charge thing. To me, that's revolutionary.
Fast charging is awesome, but I really don't use it. My battery life is so great the it easily lasts me the whole day with moderate usage. I usually end the day with 30+% left. The fast charging is an awesome feature, but i really have no use for it.
Someone was saying having fast charging checked depletes battery quicker. Ain't that some bs?
Has anyone given any numbers as to how slow / the rate of wireless charging is on this phone? I love fast charging but I want wireless charging as well.
I agree with a couple of these posts. I have moderate use on my phone and usually end the day at 40% or higher. However, I love having spare batteries that I can just pop in and be at 100%. Just ordered 3 plus wall charger for $20 shipped. Hard to beat having 3 full charges at hand if you don't have a chance to plug in for a while.
Battery life is great on this phone........period!!!
FuzzRaven said:
Has anyone given any numbers as to how slow / the rate of wireless charging is on this phone? I love fast charging but I want wireless charging as well.
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I believe most wireless chargers are 1 amp output. The stock wall charger is 2 amp so I'm guessing it would take about 2 1/2 to 3 1/2 hours to fully charge on wireless,I'm not expert though.
husker97 said:
Fast charging is awesome, but I really don't use it. My battery life is so great the it easily lasts me the whole day with moderate usage. I usually end the day with 30+% left. The fast charging is an awesome feature, but i really have no use for it.
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You'll find it helpful sooner or later trust me
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masri1987 said:
Someone was saying having fast charging checked depletes battery quicker. Ain't that some bs?
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Maybe they thought it said "fast discharging" lol
shpotik said:
You'll find it helpful sooner or later trust me
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I do not doubt the usefulness of it, and I know it will come in handy some days. It's just my normals days I have battery to spare.