Hi,
I will be receiving a galaxy S4 soon.
I need to know what would be the best option.
I am going to root & then either:
remove all bloatware using a no bloat or root uninstall app.
or
install a custom rom Doc Barebone possibly??
I would like to get as much space back as possible as I have heard that you only get around 9gb on a 16gb model.
Ideally I would like to keep (or reinstall with full functionality) the stock camera app.
I am not fussed about all of the touchwiz wizardry.
I also need to be able to install apps 2 sd card
& have live wallpapers & a music & video player
How much space is usable after a doc barebones rom install?
Apologies for all questions, coming back to android after a few years on iphone.
None of roms than I see opens more Space, you can move some apps to sd card.
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matheus_sc said:
None of roms than I see opens more Space, you can move some apps to sd card.
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I read that the Google play rom gives 12gb usable space as there is no bloatware & was considering it also. I thought the doc barebones may give slightly more.
Do all of the custom roms have app2sd functionality?
Can you install live wallpapers on the doc barebones rom?
Macca1980 said:
I read that the Google play rom gives 12gb usable space as there is no bloatware & was considering it also. I thought the doc barebones may give slightly more.
Do all of the custom roms have app2sd functionality?
Can you install live wallpapers on the doc barebones rom?
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all i9505 Firmware Roms Support app2sd Functionality
You can Install Live Wallpapers on any ROm .
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all i9505 Firmware Roms Support app2sd Functionality
You can Install Live Wallpapers on any ROm .
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Thanks for this , it looks like I will install doc barebones as it keeps the stock camera & if I can store apps on sd as well that will be great.
One more question, if installing a rom with no bloatware doesn't give more space, would it not be easier to just root & remove bloat ware from stock.
I'm a bit disappointed I thought I could have got some of the storage back. I read on another thread that Samsung have partitioned it so that 8-9gb is free regardless.
Read elsewhere that the google version of s4 has 12gb free.
Is there no way to completely wipe the phone & installation rom that gives you the same 12gb as the google edition..?
The apps to sd "feature" does not save you any appreciable space. You are far better off using a third party app to move the data to external sd and symlink back to the internal memory.
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The apps to sd "feature" does not save you any appreciable space. You are far better off using a third party app to move the data to external sd and symlink back to the internal memory.
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Thanks for your roy can you give me an example of an app that can do this?
Folder Mount
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Macca1980 said:
Thanks for this , it looks like I will install doc barebones as it keeps the stock camera & if I can store apps on sd as well that will be great.
One more question, if installing a rom with no bloatware doesn't give more space, would it not be easier to just root & remove bloat ware from stock.
I'm a bit disappointed I thought I could have got some of the storage back. I read on another thread that Samsung have partitioned it so that 8-9gb is free regardless.
Read elsewhere that the google version of s4 has 12gb free.
Is there no way to completely wipe the phone & installation rom that gives you the same 12gb as the google edition..?
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Reasons why people use Modified Stock ROMS is simply because the developers do a lot of editing as well as build.prop tweaks to insure Performance and Overall Stability.
Regardless of what TW Rom you use, you will have about 8.+ ----9Gb free space...
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Hi.,
I have the i9505 version. I have rooted using Odin & now have su rights
I noticed that the docsbarebones rom is for the other galaxy.
Are there any roms that keep the stock camera & have apps 2 sd
Apologies noob
*** edit I have tried a few roms , but what I did was unrooted & loaded the german version of stock rom that has apps2sd then used auto root so I can remove bloat.
When I send an app 2 sd it sometimes says your device cannot move 2 sd card.
It still lets me do it though.
*** further edit. It isnt actually working.
Get error "/The_Device_does_not_have_a_real_primary_external_storage_or_the_primary_external_storage_is_emulated__Moving_app_to_SD_Function_my_not_be_supported"
What can I do to get apps2sd?
Does anyone know how to get app2sd on galaxy s4? It says its installing to sd card but its just writing it to internal.
I checked by installing a massive game, said it was all on sd, but when I uninstalled it gave me the space back internally.
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Macca1980 said:
Does anyone know how to get app2sd on galaxy s4? It says its installing to sd card but its just writing it to internal.
I checked by installing a massive game, said it was all on sd, but when I uninstalled it gave me the space back internally.
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It worked exactly as designed. Only the apk is moved to the ext SD. It does not move any associated data.
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It worked exactly as designed. Only the apk is moved to the ext SD. It does not move any associated data.
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Hi, none of the files ever get copied to the external sd card though. They end up in some sort of sd/emulated/0 folder.
They arent on the external sd card. Everything seems to get stored internally.
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Macca1980 said:
Hi, none of the files ever get copied to the external sd card though. They end up in some sort of sd/emulated/0 folder.
They arent on the external sd card. Everything seems to get stored internally.
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That's the way it is supposed to be. The apps to SD feature is such a waste of time, I wonder why anyone even bothers. Only a single small installation file is moved to your external. Everything else is left internally. That is by design. If you want actual app to SD functionality, you're going to have to use a third party app such as Folder Mount to get it.
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Folder Mount
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is there any other free app can use than this folder mount??
its allow 3 apps only
noobies13 said:
is there any other free app can use than this folder mount??
its allow 3 apps only
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I think link2sd can do it. I have had no luck though. I cant get it to recognise the second partition.
2 of my main reasons for getting this phone was ability to store apps on external sd & a good camera . They are both frustrating me now as I cant get any method to work for my sd storage & seemingly galaxy s4 has hardware limitation on camera functions my iPhone 4s could do.
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Lol..dont mess up ur brain..just buy the premium folder mount..i already buy it..and its easier to manage + unlimited pairing
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Lol..dont mess up ur brain..just buy the premium folder mount..i already buy it..and its easier to manage + unlimited pairing
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Ok I bought the premium folder moint app. It doesnt seem to do anything though. It doesnt look like I gain any space & lots of apps look like they are zerp bytes , even though I know theu are not
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Anybody know if custom ROMs like cm10 would help us get back some SD card space (after bootloader unlock)?
9GB is ridiculous.
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Anybody know if custom ROMs like cm10 would help us get back some SD card space (after bootloader unlock)?
9GB is ridiculous.
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Of course they would, they don't have any of the Samsung proprietary stuff that takes up all the space
switters1 said:
Anybody know if custom ROMs like cm10 would help us get back some SD card space (after bootloader unlock)?
9GB is ridiculous.
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Yes, we just have to wait for the bootloader unlock to be released and the nightlies of CM 10.1 to start.
So SD card repartition would be covered in the ROM install? I wasn't sure if these were separate activities.
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So SD card repartition would be covered in the ROM install? I wasn't sure if these were separate activities.
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I don't believe the SD card is partitioned different, I believe if you hhave root you can access all the samsung stuff in hidden folders and not on a desperate partition
I have the 16gb and was thinking about upgrading to the 32 on the 10th... I know cm10 and other roms will take advantage of the external sd card. But will the other TW based roms give you the freedom to use external as the main storage? I dont see a point in upgrading if they do...
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Even with custom roms you still can't move apps to sd card as the limitation is android where Google does not allow it. You will still need to use some kind of app to accomplish moving apps to sd card.
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Would apps like GL to SD work on S4?
I have s3 right now and I'm wondering if I can use this app the same way I did on S3.
Lack of memory is a major concern to me as I have lots of large games...
I have just migrated from GS2 to the GS4,
Why cant i move Apps to extSD card to enable me to free-up more of the internal SD memory like i could with the S2??
The option was removed in ics/jb (not sure which version exactly) because Google think that microSD card aren't reliable enough.
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The option was removed in ics/jb (not sure which version exactly) because Google think that microSD card aren't reliable enough.
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I know something called redpill was available for the galaxy note, which changed the external SD card with the internal SD memory and somehow enabled users to move apps across to the external SD Card thought something might be available for the S4 by now??
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I have just migrated from GS2 to the GS4,
Why cant i move Apps to extSD card to enable me to free-up more of the internal SD memory like i could with the S2??
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you can use folder mount from play store. But need to be rooted first. This app works even with GS4.
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you can use folder mount from play store. But need to be rooted first. This app works even with GS4.
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Thanks
am i the only one ticked off because the internal memory card in this dang phone is emulated and the software doesnt support apps to sd? so you use up all the memory cuz u have about 50 apps installed?
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captivated1971 said:
am i the only one ticked off because the internal memory card in this dang phone is emulated and the software doesnt support apps to sd? so you use up all the memory cuz u have about 50 apps installed?
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I have 80 apps installed and I still have 7.70gb free on a 16gb s4... But yeah your not the only one there are about a 100 threads complaining about the same thing...
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Pretty sure there is a mod for this.
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CM 10.1 mounts in the internal SD in the proper root directory: /sdcard/
Just a thought if it's a deal breaking feature for you.
EDIT: I'm actually not sure this can be done on CM10.1 either....
Edit: ive just found out a day ago that if u install the international version of software that has been pushed out as an ota update it has this done ! Apps 2 sd!! But still have to wait for ours on att. Or hopefully a dev will code it into a rom for us . I was just actually mad becuz the sell it as internal sd storage when it really is not separate from the phone memory that the system is on . I had a captivate that had it separated. But still loving the phone regardless.
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Goldeneye rom in Android development is tw based and had app2sd.
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So I installed the newest official Samsung firmware which was suppose to allow moving my apps to my sd card. When I go to my apps I can see tge button that says "move to sd card". When I press it the app goes from the phones internal memory to the so called internal sd card which is the same in all s4's instead of the "extSdCard" what is the actual sd card I have.
Why those apps doesn't really go to the sd card and why would Samsung hype this newest update with that feature when it doesn't even work.
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Try using "DIRECTORY BIND"...
Its a third party app... Probably the only app that would actually do what u want...
Good luck!
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HassanM said:
Try using "DIRECTORY BIND"...
Its a third party app... Probably the only app that would actually do what u want...
Good luck!
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I know about directory mounting/folder syncing, but I'd really like to know if others have the same problem or is it just me? I'm going to ask about this from Samsung since they probably know better why they lied about this app2sd feature.
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District19 said:
I know about directory mounting/folder syncing, but I'd really like to know if others have the same problem or is it just me? I'm going to ask about this from Samsung since they probably know better why they lied about this app2sd feature.
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some apps do not support app 2 sd i.e : whatsapp antutu etc... its how it works.... im sure things will get better with newer android updates
Its moves the app only, not the data files.
If you still want to move the files, use foldermount.
Directory bind doesnt work anymore. Only foldermount has a patch to work around it.
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Its moves the app only, not the data files.
If you still want to move the files, use foldermount.
Directory bind doesnt work anymore. Only foldermount has a patch to work around it.
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No, it doesn't even move the apps. I just said that in the first post. They just go to the internal "sd card" intead of the "extSdCard". I tried with every one of my apps so it's not about some apps not supporting app2sd.
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No, it doesn't even move the apps. I just said that in the first post. They just go to the internal "sd card" intead of the "extSdCard". I tried with every one of my apps so it's not about some apps not supporting app2sd.
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It's not about not supporting if it didn't support it the move to sd card button wouldn't have been highlighted so you are correct
I noticed the to get around I use folder mount to link large folders +(1gb)
I also have a second partition on my sd which I used in my last device for linking its only 1gb though but u can try that to if you like
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same problem
I just got my samsung galaxy s4 (GT-I9500) but it seems that it is impossible to move apps on SD card.
Android Version: 4.2.2
Baseband Version: I9500XXUAMDK
Build Number: JDQ39.I9500XXUAMDK
I also read some forums and learned that samsung already addressed this issue by making the upgrade or updates but unfortunately my phone is up-to-date already.
Can somebody please tell me when does the said update will come out here in Philippines? I believe there's a lot of S4 users who also has this trouble as our phones int. memory gets lower and lower. :crying:
thanks
The update will not save you much of any space, so I'm a bit surprised that people are still so fixated on it.
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Hi! How can i flash the updated firmware to have a *move to sd* option? Do i need to root my phone to do it?
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alvincris said:
Hi! How can i flash the updated firmware to have a *move to sd* option? Do i need to root my phone to do it?
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I see u are running the oldest firmware provided by Samsung and to be honest no one will know when u may get and update
Incase u wish to try new firmware
use the below link and download the firmware and flash it using odin
it wont affect ur warranty etc
http://samsung-updates.com/device/?id=GT-I9500
It just dont work ...
123hiten said:
I see u are running the oldest firmware provided by Samsung and to be honest no one will know when u may get and update
Incase u wish to try new firmware
use the below link and download the firmware and flash it using odin
it wont affect ur warranty etc
http://samsung-updates.com/device/?id=GT-I9500
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I have latest FW for my region (I9505XXUBMEA) whitch provide app to SD. But as someone say before, it dosnt work, it just move MB from phone to SD card on App info page but physicaly whole app is still on the same place on internet storage.
RR3 is only for ex. this is happen with every app i try.
HonZuna said:
I have latest FW for my region (I9505XXUBMEA) whitch provide app to SD. But as someone say before, it dosnt work, it just move MB from phone to SD card on App info page but physicaly whole app is still on the same place on internet storage.
RR3 is only for ex. this is happen with every app i try.
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Is working exactly as it should. Only the apk is moved. The bulk of the space is consumed by the app's data, which is not supposed the be moved by this "feature."
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Is working exactly as it should. Only the apk is moved. The bulk of the space is consumed by the app's data, which is not supposed the be moved by this "feature."
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WTF ?! And what then is the point of this feature?
So I decided to install safe strap , love it it works amazingly.question I had is I want to basically have to toms on phone one with as much memory as possible as well as stock with a decent amount of storage. So can I achieve that by deleting most apps on stock slot and creating another slot with the memory maxed out,? What's best way to do this? I want baja to be my daily use slot th Most storage but still have stock on the side...
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SdRasta said:
So I decided to install safe strap , love it it works amazingly.question I had is I want to basically have to toms on phone one with as much memory as possible as well as stock with a decent amount of storage. So can I achieve that by deleting most apps on stock slot and creating another slot with the memory maxed out,? What's best way to do this? I want baja to be my daily use slot th Most storage but still have stock on the side...
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Once you create a rom slot in safe strap you specify how much space each section gets, storage, system.... you have the option of deleting stock but if you dont touch it then it stays the same. You can activate your baja rom slot and it will stay on that even if you reboot or what not, then when you feel like stock you simply load up safestrap and activate the stock slot and youre back to stock
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Once you create a rom slot in safe strap you specify how much space each section gets, storage, system.... you have the option of deleting stock but if you dont touch it then it stays the same. You can activate your baja rom slot and it will stay on that even if you reboot or what not, then when you feel like stock you simply load up safestrap and activate the stock slot and youre back to stock
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Right.well i made one already can I add more storage to the slot I created or do I have to create another one and do over?
Edit:better yet when I make a slot and set max size there is still a lot of remaining space.so when I'm in let's say slot 1 will I run out of space when I reach the space limit I I set on the slot or will the remains space available be used on that slot that I didn't add when I made the slot
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Does the new rom run off of ext sd card memory or internal sd card memory?
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recDNA said:
Does the new rom run off of ext sd card memory or internal sd card memory?
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Well I have the Rom stored to my ext sd. .I then flashed from safe strap with it on ext. Does that mean it stores on ext?
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I wonder if any of the custom roms incorporate the spelling error underline mod?
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recDNA said:
I wonder if any of the custom roms incorporate the spelling error underline mod?
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I don't know what the he** that is. Ha
So will that storage(memory) be in a sense wasted?
Or will it be used once the space I made available in slot one is maxed. I'm using slot 1 by the way
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I don't know what the he** that is. Ha
So will that storage(memory) be in a sense wasted?
Or will it be used once the space I made available in slot one is maxed. I'm using slot 1 by the way
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2543967
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Gladyscoleman said:
Dont delete your all app for this . Just make backup of your app in your SD Card or move all application in your SD card. Then you will got the space for this.
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Well I have a back up on my external.. But deleting the apps on stick slit which I won't be using much will give me more space for my slot 1 yes? Obviously......?...
Can someone get to my question about the free/available space please.
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See how it says I only have 1.7 gb space...? I set the slots to max memory on all settings when I made the slot.
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See how it says I only have 1.7 gb space...? I set the slots to max memory on all settings when I made the slot.
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only way to do this is install your custom rom in the STOCK rom slot in safestrap. I was told not to do this but it worked for me and allowed me to have access to all the internal memory. As a backup I put a stock rom into one of the other slots, in this reversed order everything worked fine for me.
I have seen people here say not to do that, but it was the only way I could figure out that would not waste my sd card space. I prefer to have apps on my phone and misc. files on my sd card.
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only way to do this is install your custom rom in the STOCK rom slot in safestrap. I was told not to do this but it worked for me and allowed me to have access to all the internal memory. As a backup I put a stock rom into one of the other slots, in this reversed order everything worked fine for me.
I have seen people here say not to do that, but it was the only way I could figure out that would not waste my sd card space. I prefer to have apps on my phone and misc. files on my sd card.
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Can someone give me a link to the best thread with a complete explanation of the installation of safestrap 3.65, backing up stock rom, installing custom rom? Thanks
MAsterOSkillio said:
only way to do this is install your custom rom in the STOCK rom slot in safestrap. I was told not to do this but it worked for me and allowed me to have access to all the internal memory. As a backup I put a stock rom into one of the other slots, in this reversed order everything worked fine for me.
I have seen people here say not to do that, but it was the only way I could figure out that would not waste my sd card space. I prefer to have apps on my phone and misc. files on my sd card.
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So do you know of a guide on how to do so with steps? And can you possibly post a link where I can get the stock rom?
recDNA said:
Can someone give me a link to the best thread with a complete explanation of the installation of safestrap 3.65, backing up stock rom, installing custom rom? Thanks
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2543386
All your answer should be there...
"thanks"
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