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[Q] Can you install the 4.1.2 OTA on an unlocked phone with CWM installed?

I got the ota the other day and debated installing it because my M is rooted and the bootloader is unlocked and I have flashed ClockworkMod recovery. I searched for a while to see what others were saying and didn't really find anything of note so I decided to go ahead and run the install. When the phone rebooted into recovery and tried to install the update, it gave me the following Error: E: Failed to verify whole-file signature. Then there was an option to apply unsigned update (or zip, I can't remember the wording exactly). I chose not to do this and went back in the recovery menu and rebooted back into system. The phone booted normally and then immediately rebooted on its own back into recovery to try to install the update again, ending in the same results. This happened 2-3 more times before I finally formatted the Cache Partition through cwm which ended the bootloop (not sure that you can really describe that as a bootloop since it was actually doing what it thought it should be). My question is this, is it safe to go ahead and install the unsigned update via CWM? I have also since seen threads stating that if you had removed some of the bloatware apps, that the update would fail. I have removed many of these unneeded apps, should I reinstall them? I have seen a link or two to the bloat apks...

Having a unlocked bootloader doesn't matter. You just need to be stock 4.1.1 bloatware and all.

what he said^
you can update it with cwm but you have to have all the crapware that came stock still present.

Do you have to unroot first to get it to install? I have TWRP recovery on mine and can't get the update to install.
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bobcheeks said:
Do you have to unroot first to get it to install? I have TWRP recovery on mine and can't get the update to install.
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No. You don't have to unroot. You must have modified something else.
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antp121 said:
what he said^
you can update it with cwm but you have to have all the crapware that came stock still present.
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So if I restore the bloatware, it is ok to choose the "install unsigned zip"?
Thanks for the quick reply, you guys rock!

bwat1009 said:
So if I restore the bloatware, it is ok to choose the "install unsigned zip"?
Thanks for the quick reply, you guys rock!
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If its all there, yep. It'll be fine
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antp121 said:
If its all there, yep. It'll be fine
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Well I tried it and it failed the check for the Amazon MP3 app. I reinstalled it from the play store but according to another post I found later this doesn't work because it isn't installed to the /system/app directory. The only way around this that I have seen is to use the RAZR M utility to return back to out of box status and start over. Not worth it to me but if anyone has another idea, I am all ears...

bwat1009 said:
Well I tried it and it failed the check for the Amazon MP3 app. I reinstalled it from the play store but according to another post I found later this doesn't work because it isn't installed to the /system/app directory. The only way around this that I have seen is to use the RAZR M utility to return back to out of box status and start over. Not worth it to me but if anyone has another idea, I am all ears...
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I RSDed back to 4.1.1 because mine hung on the clock app. I had installed the 4.2 clock.

bwat1009 said:
Well I tried it and it failed the check for the Amazon MP3 app. I reinstalled it from the play store but according to another post I found later this doesn't work because it isn't installed to the /system/app directory. The only way around this that I have seen is to use the RAZR M utility to return back to out of box status and start over. Not worth it to me but if anyone has another idea, I am all ears...
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You could try grabbing the apk from /data/app and moving it to /system...
Or grab it from one of the many /system dumps around here...
Someone should turn the OTA into a flashable zip from CWM/TWRP that doesn't check for that.
I may do that...

sloosecannon said:
You could try grabbing the apk from /data/app and moving it to /system...
Or grab it from one of the many /system dumps around here...
Someone should turn the OTA into a flashable zip from CWM/TWRP that doesn't check for that.
I may do that...
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I had the same thought about moving the apk to the system/app directory and did just that. My expectation was that I would still get the error but for a different app since I just tested with the one that had been throwing the error but it didn't change, still gave the error for the amazon mp3 app even though it was successfully installed in the correct directory. Thanks for the thought though. If you could turn it into a flashable zip, I would be much appreciated. I would love to do that myself but I have no idea how. I know just enough through trial and error (and a lot of forum reading) to be dangerous...

After installing 4.1.2, I can no longer fastboot back to 4.1.1 or 4.0.6. They put in some sort of backrev check.

bwat1009 said:
I had the same thought about moving the apk to the system/app directory and did just that. My expectation was that I would still get the error but for a different app since I just tested with the one that had been throwing the error but it didn't change, still gave the error for the amazon mp3 app even though it was successfully installed in the correct directory. Thanks for the thought though. If you could turn it into a flashable zip, I would be much appreciated. I would love to do that myself but I have no idea how. I know just enough through trial and error (and a lot of forum reading) to be dangerous...
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There is a 4.1.1 system dump here. Download it, transfer any missing apps in /system/app over to your phone.
The reason you have to have those is that the current one from the playstore will be different, causing the update check to fail and abort.

tehjolly81 said:
After installing 4.1.2, I can no longer fastboot back to 4.1.1 or 4.0.6. They put in some sort of backrev check.
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Have you tried using mattlGroff's DROID RAZR M Utility? Worked for me.
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Snow02 said:
There is a 4.1.1 system dump here. Download it, transfer any missing apps in /system/app over to your phone.
The reason you have to have those is that the current one from the playstore will be different, causing the update check to fail and abort.
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Alright, thanks for the tip and the link, I will give it a try and let you know...

tehjolly81 said:
After installing 4.1.2, I can no longer fastboot back to 4.1.1 or 4.0.6. They put in some sort of backrev check.
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I'm pretty sure you need an unlocked boot loader to downgrade.

netizenmt said:
Have you tried using mattlGroff's DROID RAZR M Utility? Worked for me.
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I did. It fixed an issue where my phone wasn't booting, but it did not revert me to 4.1.1. Just found your comment in the other thread about modifying the xml file.. I'll try that next. Thanks.

patehi nice
Snow02 said:
There is a 4.1.1 system dump here. Download it, transfer any missing apps in /system/app over to your phone.
The reason you have to have those is that the current one from the playstore will be different, causing the update check to fail and abort.
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That worked at getting the system apps that I had removed back into the /syste/app directory and now the update appears to be installing... Will let you know if it works.
*UPDATE*
Well that worked like a charm, update installed successfully, root access maintained, cwm allowed me to prevent reflash of stock recovery so all is right with the world... Thanks you guys!

Snow02 said:
There is a 4.1.1 system dump here. Download it, transfer any missing apps in /system/app over to your phone.
The reason you have to have those is that the current one from the playstore will be different, causing the update check to fail and abort.
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Thank you! I had missing Amazon_IMDb.apk, Facebook.apk, Kindle.apk, PlusOne.apk files. Copied these to my phone and updated successfully!

[Q] UI Stops Working EVERY DAY!!!

No matter what I do... no matter what ROM I flash to, and I have tried 4 different ROMs, I keep getting the UI Stops Working error and then my phone is virtually non-functional. The notifications, navigation, and launcher bars go away and I cannot do anything. The only thing that I can do is boot into recovery and then flash a new ROM, BUT I have been doing this a couple times a day.
I even formatted my entire phone, internal storage and all, started completely over AND YET I still get the issue. What can I do???

System UI errors
alwaysbelieve1 said:
No matter what I do... no matter what ROM I flash to, and I have tried 4 different ROMs, I keep getting the UI Stops Working error and then my phone is virtually non-functional. The notifications, navigation, and launcher bars go away and I cannot do anything. The only thing that I can do is boot into recovery and then flash a new ROM, BUT I have been doing this a couple times a day.
I even formatted my entire phone, internal storage and all, started completely over AND YET I still get the issue. What can I do???
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Did you freeze any of your system apps?

mcapozzi said:
Did you freeze any of your system apps?
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The only ones that I can think of are the live wallpaper ones, Email Exchange since I don't need it, and face unlock. I also froze the NFC. I wouldn't think that would cause it. I was reading on the internet that the Facebook app can cause it so I deleted the app and we will see.
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alwaysbelieve1 said:
The only ones that I can think of are the live wallpaper ones, Email Exchange since I don't need it, and face unlock. I also froze the NFC. I wouldn't think that would cause it. I was reading on the internet that the Facebook app can cause it so I deleted the app and we will see.
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What launcher are you using?
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mcapozzi said:
What launcher are you using?
-Mike
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Nova Prime

alwaysbelieve1 said:
Nova Prime
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You didn't by chance accidentally freeze the stock launcher?
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mcapozzi said:
You didn't by chance accidentally freeze the stock launcher?
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No

Here is a thread regarding the issue, but none of the "fixes" worked for me: http://forums.androidcentral.com/sa...0371-unfortunately-system-ui-has-stopped.html
I deleted Facebook so we shall see if that does the trick.

When this happened to me I used Matt's utility option 1... rooted it updated it n made a TiB of everything... now when I tinker n it gets wonky I restore the systemui.apk n reboot... I know you said that you started over does that mean you used rsd and flashed stock... or did you go through a recovery to do the wiping formatting n what not?
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Had this happen the other day and this is what I did. I rebooted the phone WHILE HOLDING THE VOLUME DOWN KEY. it boots into safe mode. While in there make a TiBu of your apps. Then boot into recovery and factory data/reset like 3 times, flash back to a ROM and restore your apps. This way you don't lose your stuff.
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ezknives said:
When this happened to me I used Matt's utility option 1... rooted it updated it n made a TiB of everything... now when I tinker n it gets wonky I restore the systemui.apk n reboot... I know you said that you started over does that mean you used rsd and flashed stock... or did you go through a recovery to do the wiping formatting n what not?
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When I meant started over I was yes referring to the booting to recovery and then wiping/formatting everything, then reflashing a ROM. That works, but I just am nervous now because the issue persists no matter the ROM. Sometimes it takes a day or two or sometimes it happens even quicker than that. I think it might be Facebook so I am not installing that app again. Why FB works on my Nexus 7 tablet and my wife's phone just fine is beyond me.
I didn't know I can make a backup of systemui.apk and restore it to make it work. I wish we could find the main issue to begin with so we can resolve this once-and-for-all.

evastonian said:
Had this happen the other day and this is what I did. I rebooted the phone WHILE HOLDING THE VOLUME DOWN KEY. it boots into safe mode. While in there make a TiBu of your apps. Then boot into recovery and factory data/reset like 3 times, flash back to a ROM and restore your apps. This way you don't lose your stuff.
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Yes that is exactly what I do every time. Today I started completely fresh and installed everything manually so I can better narrow down any issues.

alwaysbelieve1 said:
When I meant started over I was yes referring to the booting to recovery and then wiping/formatting everything, then reflashing a ROM. That works, but I just am nervous now because the issue persists no matter the ROM. Sometimes it takes a day or two or sometimes it happens even quicker than that. I think it might be Facebook so I am not installing that app again. Why FB works on my Nexus 7 tablet and my wife's phone just fine is beyond me.
I didn't know I can make a backup of systemui.apk and restore it to make it work. I wish we could find the main issue to begin with so we can resolve this once-and-for-all.
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Yea I backup everything on my external hard drive (that after I back anything up I bubble wrap and put in my fire safe< a bit paranoid) every week, so that if anything happens I can just wipe it clean and start fresh (I have never used rsd lite but I'm guessing its somewhat like option one of Matt's utility) that restores your phone to a moto flashed like state... ready to be sold as a certified like new device (as Verizon would call it)...
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Are you mounting system in TWRP, before you wipe data? For some reason, I stopped doing this when I updated to the newer TWRP. There was a thread on here where someone said they mounted prior to wiping and it solved their 4.3 issues. I tried it and it worked for me. I would suggest you try the same.

RikRong said:
Are you mounting system in TWRP, before you wipe data? For some reason, I stopped doing this when I updated to the newer TWRP. There was a thread on here where someone said they mounted prior to wiping and it solved their 4.3 issues. I tried it and it worked for me. I would suggest you try the same.
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Don't even know how to do this or what this means exactly...

4.3 fails during install

Hi,
On MF3.
I'm rooted. I have clock work recovery installed.
I can download the update succeffuly however when the phone reboots the install begins, gets as far as 25% then fails. Phone reboots back to 4.2.2 with a message that says the install was interrupted.
Have tried twice with the same result.
Anyone else experiencing this?
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ckalantzis said:
Hi,
On MF3.
I'm rooted. I have clock work recovery installed.
I can download the update succeffuly however when the phone reboots the install begins, gets as far as 25% then fails. Phone reboots back to 4.2.2 with a message that says the install was interrupted.
Have tried twice with the same result.
Anyone else experiencing this?
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If I were you I would go back and read a little information about mf3 and what kind of recovery can be used. It sounds to me like you might be very confused. In order to correctly keep from bricking your phone you may want to read up on things. Good luck.

ckalantzis said:
Hi,
On MF3.
I'm rooted. I have clock work recovery installed.
I can download the update succeffuly however when the phone reboots the install begins, gets as far as 25% then fails. Phone reboots back to 4.2.2 with a message that says the install was interrupted.
Have tried twice with the same result.
Anyone else experiencing this?
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Since you are rooted, take a look in the /cache/recovery directory. Read the log file. It will tell you where things messed up.
For example, I had forgotten that I did something with csc and had replaced the feature.xml file. Luckily, I had a back up of the original file. I renamed it, fixed is file permissions to rw-r--r--, advanced my clock one day, and then was able to install MJ9.
Good luck, and remember you won't have root anymore when you install this (for the time being)
Yrs,
dkephart
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ckalantzis said:
Hi,
On MF3.
I'm rooted. I have clock work recovery installed.
I can download the update succeffuly however when the phone reboots the install begins, gets as far as 25% then fails. Phone reboots back to 4.2.2 with a message that says the install was interrupted.
Have tried twice with the same result.
Anyone else experiencing this?
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I had the same problem. The only way I was finally able to upgrade to 4.3 was to use Odin to revert to stock (unrooted) 4.2.2 MF3 using the files on this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2502003 Once I did that I ran the OTA update to 4.3 and it worked without any problems

To able to keep your root and upgrade from 4.2.2 to 4.3 you have to change your param file back to the stock. Thats all the information that I have so far so... not completely sure. But I think that is what you're supposed to do.
Because you have a custom param file, when you try to upgrade to 4.3 it's telling you there is an issue with your phone.
I may be wrong.

Is there a copy of the correct feature.xml? Im having the same issue
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According to the log its stopping when it can't find the chat on apk. I did remove it using titanium.
Will restore it try again andbipdate the thread. Thanks for pointing out the correct log file to look at.
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I checked again and found my backup feature.xml. Typed this from mj9.
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ckalantzis said:
Hi,
On MF3.
I'm rooted. I have clock work recovery installed.
I can download the update succeffuly however when the phone reboots the install begins, gets as far as 25% then fails. Phone reboots back to 4.2.2 with a message that says the install was interrupted.
Have tried twice with the same result.
Anyone else experiencing this?
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I had the same problem happen to me on Wednesday night and last night. Today I used Odin to go back to stock MF3, however, then I couldn't get the OTA update. It kept saying my firmware was up to date each of the three times I restored it.
Now I'm finally on MJ9 after copying "update-mf3-mj9.zip" to my SD card, going into recovery mode, and updating from external SD card. Now I can use my Galaxy Gear!

Cause I want to sound like a noob.
How did you install CWM on what reads to me a MF3 S4.
Those on MF3 have been using Safestrap cause CWM hasn't been possible.
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jball said:
Cause I want to sound like a noob.
How did you install CWM on what reads to me a MF3 S4.
Those on MF3 have been using Safestrap cause CWM hasn't been possible.
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I was excited when I rooted the phone, then installed ROM manager premium. It allowed me to install the recovery. You can even boot into the recovery from ROM Manager.
However since the S4 is locked down tight, you can do any thing from there. So i can't flash anything. It even gives me a message saying as much.
However it is partially installed I can boot into it at will.
I will post a video of it. So that you all have an idea of what im talking about.
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Don't waste your time with a video,its your stock recovery.your not the first to have done this.lets jump ahead a bit and just install Safestrap.whats Safestrap you might ask?search for it and READ please sir.
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jball said:
Don't waste your time with a video,its your stock recovery.your not the first to have done this.lets jump ahead a bit and just install Safestrap.whats Safestrap you might ask?search for it and READ please sir.
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While I was preparing to record it, I did notice that you are correct. Although Rom Manager goes through the motions of flashing the recovery, when you attempt to boot into the Recovery, you are faced with an Error, and default back into Android Recovery.
Although I know all about Safestrap...I think we've all missed the point. The OP was meant to get help about why the 4.3 OTA was failing 25% into the install.
I've got what I needed by being pointed to the location of the install log.....and while reading through it, I noticed that the install is failing because I removed the Chat On APK. I will install from backup and move forward.
Thank you all who provided the necessary guidance to solve the original problem.
Thank you as well to those who helped clear up the whole Clockwork vs Android recovery part. Although a minor part of the original post, it's good that we don't spread misinformation.
Cheers

ckalantzis said:
While I was preparing to record it, I did notice that you are correct. Although Rom Manager goes through the motions of flashing the recovery, when you attempt to boot into the Recovery, you are faced with an Error, and default back into Android Recovery.
Although I know all about Safestrap...I think we've all missed the point. The OP was meant to get help about why the 4.3 OTA was failing 25% into the install.
I've got what I needed by being pointed to the location of the install log.....and while reading through it, I noticed that the install is failing because I removed the Chat On APK. I will install from backup and move forward.
Thank you all who provided the necessary guidance to solve the original problem.
Thank you as well to those who helped clear up the whole Clockwork vs Android recovery part. Although a minor part of the original post, it's good that we don't spread misinformation.
Cheers
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You handled this all very well.

ITNV said:
I had the same problem. The only way I was finally able to upgrade to 4.3 was to use Odin to revert to stock (unrooted) 4.2.2 MF3 using the files on this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2502003 Once I did that I ran the OTA update to 4.3 and it worked without any problems
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Did you use all files? I mean, I've been trying the same for the past couple of days, and I even asked in that thread if I could use just the PDA file, nobody replied so I went ahead and did it, it removed the root and I kept all my files and settings (That was the idea) but just after that I can't connect anymore to Kies ( I could without issues, I did a full backup moments before) and trying to do the sideload it always gives me the Error 7, I even tried the full SD card update,it erased everything and guess what, when it rebooted for my surprise I was still at 4.2.2 MF3, so it just did the Wipe Data and then rebooted, so I lost almost 6 hours getting everything back as it was and then, I had the Damaged SD card error so I also lost all my pictures and videos withoout back up.
So, as you can see half a day later I'm still at the same point I was this morning and with a huge loss, so, please, Did you use all the files? If you did, doing this erase everything also?
Thanks in adavance.

erasat said:
So, as you can see half a day later I'm still at the same point I was this morning and with a huge loss, so, please, Did you use all the files? If you did, doing this erase everything also?
Thanks in adavance.
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Yes. I used all the files. The result was a completely stock unrooted 4.2.2 so, yes, it reset the phone and erased everything that I had on there. (It left my external SD card intact but I would still advise removing it if there is anything on there you don't want to lose.)

ITNV said:
Yes. I used all the files. The result was a completely stock unrooted 4.2.2 so, yes, it reset the phone and erased everything that I had on there. (It left my external SD card intact but I would still advise removing it if there is anything on there you don't want to lose.)
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Yep, that was the reason why I just used the PDA I didn't want to lose my data, and then I did it anyways, my mistake was not doing the Odin Restore just after I realized that it erased everything and I was still at 4.2.2, that's was the perfect time to do it, but now, after I finally put everything back as it was, I simply don't see myself by my own choice, doing all this again.
Thanks.

erasat said:
Did you use all files? I mean, I've been trying the same for the past couple of days, and I even asked in that thread if I could use just the PDA file, nobody replied so I went a head and did it, it removed the root and I kept all my files and settings (That was the idea) but just after that I can't connect anymore to Kies ( I could without issues, I did a full backup moments before) and trying to do the sideload it always gives me the Error 7, I even tried the full SD card update,it erased everything and guess what, when it rebooted for my surprise I was still at 4.2.2 MF3, so it just did the Wipe Data and then rebooted, so I lost almost 6 hours getting everything back as it was and then, I had the Damaged SD card error so I also lost all my pictures and videos withoout back up.
So, as you can see half a day later I'm still at the same point I was this morning and with a huge loss, so, please, Did you use all the files? If you did, doing this erase everything also?
Thanks in adavance.
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It was mentioned several times in that thread exactly what files to use and how to use them. There were also several pictures provided that showed EXACTLY what the ODIN screen should look like before the flash.

scott14719 said:
It was mentioned several times in that thread exactly what files to use and how to use them. There were also several pictures provided that showed EXACTLY what the ODIN screen should look like before the flash.
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In the thread, there are tons of instances where it explains where to use each file and even pictures, I know because I read every single post, but none of them explains if I could use just the PDA one if I wanted to keep my settings while unrooting the phone, that's why I asked about it, because nobody replied to my question I decided to be the guinea pig, and yes, it works, you keep your settings, and I was glad, but as you can see, what I wanted to accomplish didn't work after all. Without all the files it doesn't fix the issue that causes the error 7 when doing the sideload.

help with mf3 to mj9
Having the same issue and formatted card with backup image.
Update got to 23 % and failed
now phone refuses to flash in odin.....and im missing factory apps preventing me from doing anything to get it back to stock
anyone have a stock restore image I could use in kies?
Would that work properly?

[Q] We see lots of OTA related problems, how do you disable OTA?

Today I had to restart my phone because it dropped data connection, the moment I restarted it said my phone was being updated and I should wait, it wasted my time and it shoved 10o update down my throat.
If I had recovery installed, this could have been disastrous, no?
Not only for recovery related problems, but this may also prevent people from being able to install certain things, or even one day in the future with a different update just block root?
How do we uninstall then disable OTA updates on an unrooted phone? When I disabled and cancelled notifications for Software Update app, I thought it was fixed, but it probably made it worse, it just installed without any notification or prompt.
I was planning to root and install twrp this weekend, now with all the horror stories I've been reading, I don't want to do it. :crying:
How is AT&T even allowed to push it without explicit permit to install on device.

hydeah said:
Today I had to restart my phone because it dropped data connection, the moment I restarted it said my phone was being updated and I should wait, it wasted my time and it shoved 10o update down my throat.
If I had recovery installed, this could have been disastrous, no?
Not only for recovery related problems, but this may also prevent people from being able to install certain things, or even one day in the future with a different update just block root?
How do we uninstall then disable OTA updates on an unrooted phone? When I disabled and cancelled notifications for Software Update app, I thought it was fixed, but it probably made it worse, it just installed without any notification or prompt.
I was planning to root and install twrp this weekend, now with all the horror stories I've been reading, I don't want to do it. :crying:
How is AT&T even allowed to push it without explicit permit to install on device.
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Pull down the notification bar and tap and hold on the notification. App info will pop up and tap it and scroll all the way to the bottom and uncheck show notification.
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oldpreowner said:
Pull down the notification bar and tap and hold on the notification. App info will pop up and tap it and scroll all the way to the bottom and uncheck show notification.
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I did that when I first got the notification. Notification disappeared. 2 days later I restarted my phone for the first time in over a week, and bam, it installed without any notification at all. So disabling notification won't stop it from installing, it seems..

I know this doesn't directly help your situation since you're not rooted but this should help someone who is.
I had to freeze "Software Update 2.3.0.5" using titanium backup for it to stop. Not sure of a way to do it without root or without the pro version of titanium.

hydeah said:
I did that when I first got the notification. Notification disappeared. 2 days later I restarted my phone for the first time in over a week, and bam, it installed without any notification at all. So disabling notification won't stop it from installing, it seems..
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If you have the ota, you could use root explorer or browser to go into the Cache folder and delete it(ota) then try to install it will fail or do nothing then hit cancel

How can I downgrade?
I don't mind paying for titanium to freeze the app. This is nonsense, enjoyment just update by itself, lucky I didn't install recovery.
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nybmx said:
I know this doesn't directly help your situation since you're not rooted but this should help someone who is.
I had to freeze "Software Update 2.3.0.5" using titanium backup for it to stop. Not sure of a way to do it without root or without the pro version of titanium.
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What version of the G2 do you have? I'm on Sprint and I don't have "Software Update", I have "Update Device 4.5.1.10" which I just froze.
Does anyone know if I install the update can I still flash TWRP to my device? I'm not sure if I should install TWRP now and use the flashable ota zip or install it after I update it.

nybmx said:
I know this doesn't directly help your situation since you're not rooted but this should help someone who is.
I had to freeze "Software Update 2.3.0.5" using titanium backup for it to stop. Not sure of a way to do it without root or without the pro version of titanium.
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I don't have tibu pro.. I went in to system/app and deleted LGDMSClient.apk.
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I'm asking the same question OP is asking, is there a way to disable the update on non-rooted phones? And from experience with several other Android phones... I know it's pretty much impossible to downgrade unless you start flashing, but I'm gonna ask anyways. Is there a way to downgrade the upgrade that was forced down OP's throat and my own throat? For me it actually updated in my sleep, I woke up and it said my phone was updated. OP and I are on AT&T's D800 variant.

btm fdr said:
I don't have tibu pro.. I went in to system/app and deleted LGDMSClient.apk.
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On Verizon it is called MobileUpdateClient.apk. I changed the file extension to .old and then moved it to a new folder called old so I would know what I had changed.
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zzandrewst said:
On Verizon it is called MobileUpdateClient.apk. I changed the file extension to .old and then moved it to a new folder called old so I would know what I had changed.
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Does anyone know the name of the file for T-Mobile? I can't find any of the names listed in this thread.
Thanks

What do I disable on Sprint?
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zzandrewst said:
On Verizon it is called MobileUpdateClient.apk. I changed the file extension to .old and then moved it to a new folder called old so I would know what I had changed.
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Looks like this worked for me also of my Verizon phone. It seems to have also remove the manual check option in the About phone section in settings.

nybmx said:
I know this doesn't directly help your situation since you're not rooted but this should help someone who is.
I had to freeze "Software Update 2.3.0.5" using titanium backup for it to stop. Not sure of a way to do it without root or without the pro version of titanium.
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Well, it would still help to avoid further OTA's from being applied if we are rooted and do not use custom rom, there is always a risk of getting OTA and messing everything up, therefore if freezing above app worked for you, it should be all we need. Is Software Update the actual app which checks for version and receives pushes from AT&T when a new OTA is available, or if there are other apps/modules that does this. The problem is, if it is incorporated into android system like some of the other stuff AT&T incorporated, it would be impossible to completely eliminate it without running a custom rom.

RubbleTea said:
If you have the ota, you could use root explorer or browser to go into the Cache folder and delete it(ota) then try to install it will fail or do nothing then hit cancel
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Awesome the above instructions worked great! Thank you very much brother

disable ota on at&t
Did you totally remove the apk, or rename it? Also, if removed, will it cause other problems?
I only ask cause i had a g2 that was pushed an ota and bricked my g2. Had to get a new one, now trying ti disable the ota's from doing that again..
Then when kitkat is released, am i not able to update it, then root again?
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I don't have tibu pro.. I went in to system/app and deleted LGDMSClient.apk.
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Att
I have Lg G2 (Att) & hours b4 I have reflash'd back 2 stock and applied root about an hour later i got OTA so I click'd 2 recieve OTA it came back sayin Cant download OTA on rooted device if that helps and thatt was almost 24\hrs ago n still runnin smoothly but file was only like 16MB
So will a bigger OTA push current root'd stock rom out n brick my fone¿

this seems to work for G Flex users.. worth a shot on G2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=50454408&postcount=3

hydeah said:
How can I downgrade?
I don't mind paying for titanium to freeze the app. This is nonsense, enjoyment just update by itself, lucky I didn't install recovery.
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you have to flash the old version by using LG Flash Tool, like I did.

So, I have a question for you guys. I got my phone yesterday and I'm on 10o. I installed the CWM recovery for 10o via Flashify, and now I'm concerned about OTAs - I disabled it via the Hidden Menu, but if there's an OTA to update the phone to 4.3 or 4.4, I'd like to receive it and not worry about bricking my phone.
I don't plan on doing a lot of custom ROM flashing, I really just wanted to root and install Xposed. Do I need to flash a stock ROM and go back to stock recovery, so I don't have to worry about OTAs? Or should I be good with CWM and the stock ROM that I rooted?

S4 WIll Not Update

I'm trying to update to lollipop OTA and when it is done downloading and trying to install it stops at 30%, reboots and says the install has been interrupted. I'm not rooted and have been running stock tw ever since i had the phone. I've tried like 5 times now. WTF do i do?

RLeWorm said:
I'm trying to update to lollipop OTA and when it is done downloading and trying to install it stops at 30%, reboots and says the install has been interrupted. I'm not rooted and have been running stock tw ever since i had the phone. I've tried like 5 times now. WTF do i do?
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My mom's phone is having the same issue, but i have not had a chance to mess with it. Are you using a launcher other than Touchwiz or have tried plugging the phone into a computer and updating with Kies? Thouse are just some ideas I had off the to of my head. This might sound dumb but do you have enough free space for the update on your phone?

It will not update if your not fully stock, this means no custom recovery, ROM, root or removed\frozen apps.

BehrendsTech said:
It will not update if your not fully stock, this means no custom recovery, ROM, root or removed\frozen apps.
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I did a factory reset and it still will not update for me and my mother has done nothing to here phone and it will not update either

Id try kies it sounds like the download corrupts.

BehrendsTech said:
Id try kies it sounds like the download corrupts.
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when I plug into with kies it says I am up to date

I am having the same issue. I was going to do a factory reset, but it looks like that did not work for you. It also is making me wait 24 hours before I can try again. Guess it is off to the AT&T help line to spend hours on hold.

Ylinen said:
I am having the same issue. I was going to do a factory reset, but it looks like that did not work for you. It also is making me wait 24 hours before I can try again. Guess it is off to the AT&T help line to spend hours on hold.
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try twitter first, more prone sevice and you don’t have to deal with someone having an attitude for making them do their job
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pettyfan45 said:
try twitter first, more prone sevice and you don’t have to deal with someone having an attitude for making them do their job
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You can try to Kies Emergency Recovery / Reflash or a odin flash and do factory defaults on top of it.
Just remember this CLEARS EVERYTHING
So make sure you read the guides very carefully and backup everything.
Other people are having the same issue but they just disappear so I have no idea if this fixes it, so if it does please let us know.
Full reset is a PITA but it usually works.

LR07 said:
I'm trying to update to lollipop OTA and when it is done downloading and trying to install it stops at 30%, reboots and says the install has been interrupted. I'm not rooted and have been running stock tw ever since i had the phone. I've tried like 5 times now. WTF do i do?
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Talking to friends today and seeing a couple posts I didn't realize that it's about a 1GB update. Make sure you have enough free space, I'd try freeing up a ton of space and see if that helps.

BehrendsTech said:
You can try to Kies Emergency Recovery / Reflash or a odin flash and do factory defaults on top of it.
Just remember this CLEARS EVERYTHING
So make sure you read the guides very carefully and backup everything.
Other people are having the same issue but they just disappear so I have no idea if this fixes it, so if it does please let us know.
Full reset is a PITA but it usually works.
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I was at 4.4.2 then 4..4.4 - Rooted and installed Safestrap. Now 5.0.1 update says interrupted as OP says.
Are you sure if I odin back to 4.4.2 - the update to 5.0.1 is possible? - I know its PITA - but atleast if somebody has done before
that motivates me to try .
thanks

BehrendsTech said:
Talking to friends today and seeing a couple posts I didn't realize that it's about a 1GB update. Make sure you have enough free space, I'd try freeing up a ton of space and see if that helps.
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This was my problem. Finally got it to install. Feels like a new phone! Wish my s4 wasn't so badly damaged now lol