Revive Palm M505 with Nokia battery? - Hardware Hacking General

Hi,
I just found my palm m505 from my storage room. The battery is about to explode so I removed it but I can't find cheap price for battery replacement. So I wonder, is it possible to used nokia battery which is Li-ion 3.7v. Palm m505 use Li-polymer 3.7v.
http://img.ihere.org/uploads/e76f9fa965.jpg
I did cut the wire but I'm not dare enought to stick the cable to the nokia battery directly. Is it possible to use Li-ion on Li-Polymer devices?
Thank you for any recommend.
Best Wish,
Jeng

Its ok now... I just try it myself. -.-' Thanks anyway.

Just saw this thread now, surely it worked for you. Everytime when you will use battery with the same voltage will work, doesn't ,atter if it's li-jon or li-pol
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Battery differences..
gallardo5 said:
Just saw this thread now, surely it worked for you. Everytime when you will use battery with the same voltage will work, doesn't ,atter if it's li-jon or li-pol
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There can be big differences using batteries not designed to be charged by the host's charging supply, the battery chemistry is vastly different, as will the rate of charge/discharge when moving from Lithium polymer, to Lithium Ion.
Both of these batteries require different charge adaptors and charge rates/currents.

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Battery Calibration (Harmless Method)

Bump Charge your android device
Follow the below mentioned steps so as to make the most of your battery charge:
1 Turn your device ON and Charge the device for 8 hours or more,
2 Unplug the device and Turn the phone OFF and charge for 1 hour,
3 Unplug the device Turn ON wait 2 minutes and Turn OFF and charge for another hour
Your battery life should almost double, as per the htc executives they have tested themselves and found out that there is a huge improvement in the battery life.
This post was published by HTC, so sharing with all android users.
))))) really? In my opinion is useless.
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Hmm this should be done once or each time i charge? ?
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I guess that is not a thing, u'd do at every charge.
Maybe after changing a rom. Its easier to clear bat stat file.
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Maybe it will work but it will force your battery...longer battery usage time with the expense of battery lifetime? Not worthwhile..
SGS2 and Galaxy Note battery doesn't need calibration... just read this and get informed before posting useless stuff:
[Guide] Everything you wanted to know about Li-Ion batteries but were afraid to ask!
Things You Should Know About Lithium Ion Battery
Complete Guide to Lithium Polymer Batteries and LiPo Failure Reports
zylor said:
SGS2 and Galaxy Note battery doesn't need calibration... just read this and get informed before posting useless stuff:
[Guide] Everything you wanted to know about Li-Ion batteries but were afraid to ask!
Things You Should Know About Lithium Ion Battery
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HTC also uses Li-ion batteries so if it makes a difference there it's quite plausible it would work for us as well. Don't believe all the battery manufacturer hype.
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Zamboney said:
HTC also uses Li-ion batteries so if it makes a difference there it's quite plausible it would work for us as well. Don't believe all the battery manufacturer hype.
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I don't... i just read that articles and know some stuff related to batteries.. and never got one single battery to get to a faulty status
kopitalk said:
Maybe it will work but it will force your battery...longer battery usage time with the expense of battery lifetime? Not worthwhile..
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Of course it's worthwhile. You can easily replace the battery if required and I'd much prefer longer usage time as I'll probably have changed phone before it's noticeable anyway. Not that I believe the method shortens the lifetime anyway.
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In essence this is overcharging the battery. Shortening its life as well as its ability to hold a charge in the long run...
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Calibrating Li-Ion batteries is a myth...It does not hurt the battery if you don't charge it "full" before you first use it and let it drain out before its charge again...and ect...it just doesn't matter. It's all bull****.
I have never see so much voodoo related to a simple issue.
Given a device has an internal charge voltage regulator and battery voltage, current & temperature monitor, then it is possible for the system to ascertain battery full status and calibrate the monitor system with one single full charge cycle.. This is neither new nor rocket science, and has been the basis for battery monitoring systems for a very long time.
Secondly, it is quite simply not possible to overcharge a battery.. a battery of any given chemical cell structure has a voltage at capacity that is a constant. Applying higher voltages to "over-charge" a battery, simply has the excess charging power dissipated as heat in the battery charging circuit... Full = Full. Period.
all this other stuff is wishful hogwash..
Mystic38 said:
I have never see so much voodoo related to a simple issue.
Given a device has an internal charge voltage regulator and battery voltage, current & temperature monitor, then it is possible for the system to ascertain battery full status and calibrate the monitor system with one single full charge cycle.. This is neither new nor rocket science, and has been the basis for battery monitoring systems for a very long time.
Secondly, it is quite simply not possible to overcharge a battery.. a battery of any given chemical cell structure has a voltage at capacity that is a constant. Applying higher voltages to "over-charge" a battery, simply has the excess charging power dissipated as heat in the battery charging circuit... Full = Full. Period.
all this other stuff is wishful hogwash..
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Actually, the awesome Note doesn't have a current monitor, only a voltage one (and temp), which could make these voodoo rituals useful.
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Zamboney said:
HTC also uses Li-ion batteries so if it makes a difference there it's quite plausible it would work for us as well. Don't believe all the battery manufacturer hype.
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This "trick" won't work on Samsung devices. It worked on HTC devices due to the type of fuel gauge chip they used, namely the ds2784 and ds2746 etc. But Samsung phones use the max17040 and max17043 fuel gauges and they do not react the same and thus "bump" charging literally does nothing on a Samsung phone.
Zamboney said:
Actually, the awesome Note doesn't have a current monitor, only a voltage one (and temp), which could make these voodoo rituals useful.
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... and then you would need to explain why managing the voltage would not manage the current ....
"could" but highly unlikely.. and tbh unless you can provide some engineering theory based substantiation for it (the voodoo), my comment stands...
fwiw, it is not actually necessary to monitor charge current... A charger, be it single stage or multi stage, applies a charge voltage and the battery accepts current. As the battery charges, so its voltage increases and when the battery voltage is raised to within a predetermined window related to the charge voltage, then that charge stage is complete.. In general the final charge cycle, float, is left running as long as the device is connected to a charging source, though in some devices (eg iphone) the float charge is cycled on and off in a tight window of battery voltage.
Zamboney said:
Actually, the awesome Note doesn't have a current monitor, only a voltage one (and temp), which could make these voodoo rituals useful.
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Tried and to my surprise worked - SGN
What I can say, just out of my curiosity I tried that thing and now, after 1 day of light use of my SGN it is now at 60 %, usually was down to 15-20 % . Did also battery stat wipe before. I do not argue with anyone, whether it is supposed to work or whether it can`t work and even not on Samsung device - whatever. Very useful and good method for me .
zylor said:
SGS2 and Galaxy Note battery doesn't need calibration... just read this and get informed before posting useless stuff:
[Guide] Everything you wanted to know about Li-Ion batteries but were afraid to ask!
Things You Should Know About Lithium Ion Battery
Complete Guide to Lithium Polymer Batteries and LiPo Failure Reports
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hummm... good to know, and Galaxy S1?
este548 said:
What I can say, just out of my curiosity I tried that thing and now, after 1 day of light use of my SGN it is now at 60 %, usually was down to 15-20 % . Did also battery stat wipe before. I do not argue with anyone, whether it is supposed to work or whether it can`t work and even not on Samsung device - whatever. Very useful and good method for me .
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I agree just tested it today even though all the logic says it does not work if did for me. 79% left after a day of light use. Normally it would be below 50%.
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Thanks I'm going to try this

Using Nexus 7 charger to charge mobile phones?

Hi,
Nexus 7 charger ouputs 2A.
Is it safe and ok to use it to charge Galaxy Nexus, Nexus S, and HTC Desire?
I am thinking more in the long run, if it does not brake the phones.
Thanks
It should not hurt anything.My daughter charges her Droid 4 with my charger every day.
It'll charge it really slow since phone chargers are 1A. Everyone will have their opinion on this but my opinion is I wouldn't use a phone charger on the N7....it could over heat due to it charging slow. But I'm sure you'll hear others saying a slow charge is better so....
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dirtyhamster73 said:
It'll charge it really slow since phone chargers are 1A. Everyone will have their opinion on this but my opinion is I wouldn't use a phone charger on the N7....it could over heat due to it charging slow. But I'm sure you'll hear others saying a slow charge is better so....
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I was asking the other way around.
To use Nexus 7 to charge my phones. But the previous user just answered, thanks James.
When traveling, I want to carry just one charger for all my devices.
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gogol said:
Hi,
Nexus 7 charger ouputs 2A.
Is it safe and ok to use it to charge Galaxy Nexus, Nexus S, and HTC Desire?
I am thinking more in the long run, if it does not brake the phones.
Thanks
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Yup, it's fine, because a standard charger is, or used to be, 500 mAh, at 5 volts.
Some chargers are more mAh, like 700, and some are even 1 A.
If a charger is 2A, and your phone only draws 500 mAh, that is perfectly fine, because it's only drawing a quarter of what the charger can produce. In this case, the charger probably won't even get warm.
Neither my Sensation nor my wife's Sensation XL has died yet from using the Nexus charger
What mvmacd says is correct - just because the charger can supply 2A, it is the device that decides how much current it draws from the charger.
dirtyhamster73 said:
It'll charge it really slow since phone chargers are 1A. Everyone will have their opinion on this but my opinion is I wouldn't use a phone charger on the N7....it could over heat due to it charging slow. But I'm sure you'll hear others saying a slow charge is better so....
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I actually find the charger that came with my razr does the job fine and its rated at 850ma. Other lower power chargers i have are slow though.
I doubt a slow charge would lead to overheating or else connecting to a pc would cause this too.
I think for chargers its a case of trying them to see how well they work.
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gbroon said:
I actually find the charger that came with my razr does the job fine and its rated at 850ma. Other lower power chargers i have are slow though.
I doubt a slow charge would lead to overheating or else connecting to a pc would cause this too.
I think for chargers its a case of trying them to see how well they work.
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Science proves other than your opinion. A too-low or too high max voltage or amperage charger can and will lead to overheating and severe reduction on battery life and can destroy the adapter as well.
MrSchroeder said:
Science proves other than your opinion. A too-low or too high max voltage or amperage charger can and will lead to overheating and severe reduction on battery life and can destroy the adapter as well.
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Care to explain why Google says you can charge your device with a 500 mAh charger [standard USB port]? ["with the screen off"]
Won't it severely reduce battery life and burn out the motherboard of the USB? Oh, really? Google just forgot about that part when they were writing the instruction manual?
:silly:
MrSchroeder said:
Science proves other than your opinion. A too-low or too high max voltage or amperage charger can and will lead to overheating and severe reduction on battery life and can destroy the adapter as well.
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Science generally proves things with facts and figures. From a forum point of view, a link is your minimum effort here
MrSchroeder said:
Science proves other than your opinion. A too-low or too high max voltage or amperage charger can and will lead to overheating and severe reduction on battery life and can destroy the adapter as well.
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Modern devices and chargers shouldn't have this problem because of built-in regulators. A smartphone won't try to draw more than it can handle and chargers won't try to supply more than they can handle (unless they're very cheap).
I have been N7 charger on phone with no problem so far. I wonder about the statement about the phone not drawing more than it needs though. I replaced the battery in my TB after 9 months due to low life and swelling. I'm pretty sure the swelling came from leaving the phone on a car charger all day, even after the battery was full. If my phone had the ability to stop taking the charge it didn't need, this wouldn't happen...
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My opinion still stands....I don't trust using anything other than the charger that came with the device. 6th post down makes perfect sense to me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-1370215.html
Your battery was likely defective. My phone literally stays on the charger all day when I'm not out.
gogol said:
Hi,
Nexus 7 charger ouputs 2A.
Is it safe and ok to use it to charge Galaxy Nexus, Nexus S, and HTC Desire?
I am thinking more in the long run, if it does not brake the phones.
Thanks
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If the phones also charge at 2A then you should be fine. If the phones charge at lower amps (say 1A or 1.5A) then I wouldn't recommend using it everyday as it may reduce the battery efficiency. If it's an emergency go ahead and use it.
There's no harm in using a higher current charger with a lower current phone because the charger is not what's actually charging the battery, it's the phone, and the phone will limit the charging current. You can confirm this with a multimeter. The charger can't force the phone to draw more current than it was designed for. This would be different if you were charging the battery directly with a dedicated charger because then the charger itself is directly controlling the charging current.
MrSchroeder said:
Science proves other than your opinion. A too-low or too high max voltage or amperage charger can and will lead to overheating and severe reduction on battery life and can destroy the adapter as well.
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Nope, just nope.
Sincerely, an electrical engineering student.
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How do you first charge the Nexus 4 for the best battery life?

I remember as a kid, when getting new hardware, you need to charge it to the maximum and leave it in for a few hours to kinda work the battery and get the most optimal battery life. So for this phone, what would you need to do when you first get it to get the battery to be the best it can be?
Do we cycle it from 0 to 100, or just charge it to 100 and leave it?
Or does it not matter?
qwahchees said:
I remember as a kid, when getting new hardware, you need to charge it to the maximum and leave it in for a few hours to kinda work the battery and get the most optimal battery life. So for this phone, what would you need to do when you first get it to get the battery to be the best it can be?
Do we cycle it from 0 to 100, or just charge it to 100 and leave it?
Or does it not matter?
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It doesn't matter. While older nickel-cadmium batteries could have issues with charge memory, lithium ion batteries are not affected. Just charge and use your phone as normal. If you want to maximize battery life make sure not to place your phone in extreme heat (eg. inside a locked car in summer time) and avoid leaving your phone at 0% charge for any length of time.
firstness said:
It doesn't matter. While older nickel-cadmium batteries could have issues with charge memory, lithium ion batteries are not affected. Just charge and use your phone as normal. If you want to maximize battery life make sure not to place your phone in extreme heat (eg. inside a locked car in summer time) and avoid leaving your phone at 0% charge for any length of time.
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But the phone is using Lithium Polymer...
qwahchees said:
But the phone is using Lithium Polymer...
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For the purposes of this discussion it is identical.
Well technically it's Lithium-ion Polymer
Same thing. Either way they don't have the memory issues that old rechargeable batteries had..
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Nope.
These new Lithium batteries aren't subject to any of these myths.
Same with the "Take off your device from the charger once it has been fully 100% charged or the battery will stuff up." Nope. The battery just cuts the charge and just runs down. That's why if you look at your charging history, it might go to 99%, 98 or even 97, and go back up to 100% because that's when the phone decides, "Yep, I'll take a bit more charge."
Alright. Thanks to everyone!
I'm getting mine tomorrow ;D
(Aw, outta thanks to give :'( )
It is good with these batteries to run then down to almost empty every week or so, right?
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Richieboy67 said:
It is good with these batteries to run then down to almost empty every week or so, right?
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Another myth. Not true for Lithium batteries
Really? I read this in a battery forum years ago. This was for laptop batteries though..
Not meaning to sound sarcastic, how do you know this? Are you an electronics engineer or something? Just wondering.
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Lithium-ion/lithium-polymer batteries don't have the "memory effect" that older nickel-cadmium and nickel-metalhydride batteries did. So there's no point trying to run your battery down low every now and again to help its life. In fact, it seems that charging it more often is the most helpful thing, i.e. lots of small charges rather than big charges all the time.
Just use it normally and charge it when you need, it'll be fine.
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How about leaving the phone charging after it is fully charged? Like when you charge it overnight.
arcwindz said:
How about leaving the phone charging after it is fully charged? Like when you charge it overnight.
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The phone and charger electronics will lower the rate of charging as it reaches 100% and turn it off when it's done. You don't need to worry about unplugging it right away.
In longer term storage situations where you aren't using the device (i.e. weeks or months) it's optimal to store the battery at a charge level of 60-70% to reduce battery degradation over time. When the Mars rover \Curiosity was en route to mars the batteries were at 60% and were charged upon approaching the planet.
Richieboy67 said:
Really? I read this in a battery forum years ago. This was for laptop batteries though..
Not meaning to sound sarcastic, how do you know this? Are you an electronics engineer or something? Just wondering.
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I am an electrical engineer actually. Li-Ion or Li-Po batteries do not need to be treated any special way. The only thing that degrades them is use and time. And it does not matter how deeply you discharge them (discharging to 50% twice is about the same wear on the battery as discharging to 0% once, within a reasonable degree of error).
What you may have been reading was with regards to calibrating your laptop's battery meter. There is some truth to that, and allowing even your phone to discharge completely (down to 5% or so) once can help make sure your battery percentage is accurate. But it does not affect your battery life at all.
qwahchees said:
I remember as a kid...
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I remember as a kid that all the phones had a cable attached and no battery whatsoever...
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I'm following what the manual said!
I was going th carge wherever and start using it, beut then i got the phone and read that it would be good to charge it full first.
i.imgur.com/0PP3v.jpg
I prefer to follow what google says thank you very much
Actually...
raziel.beoulve said:
I was going th carge wherever and start using it, beut then i got the phone and read that it would be good to charge it full first.
i.imgur.com/0PP3v.jpg
I prefer to follow what google says thank you very much
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Actually, it doesn't say to do it "first". It says "its a good idea to fully charge *as soon as you get a chance*."
The wording in the quick start guide you provided doesn't seem to imply that its a critical thing. It seems to me that they are putting that there in case someone takes it out the box, starts playing with/using it, then wonders why the phone is already dead. Then they post to XDA about how the battery life sucks. (Just kidding! )

Anyone tried the LuguLake Qi charger + battery pack?

Surprised I couldn't find a thread about this when searching.. but has anyone tried the Lugulake Qi charger + 6000mAh battery pack with the N4? Any caveats?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CY4SG10/ref=gno_cart_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=AOHIKKIFQW3GG
I'm interested in that too.
It'd be awasome with the mobility and the non-slippery surface.
Yes I bought this. I posted it at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=45051552&postcount=25
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This is kind of a useless product. Why not just get an external battery that can charge two devices. You lose a lot of the charge from heat generation
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Dimatchka said:
This is kind of a useless product. Why not just get an external battery that can charge two devices. You lose a lot of the charge from heat generation
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So would you consider Qi chargers useless? This actually takes them a step further by being completely wireless
travon802 said:
So would you consider Qi chargers useless? This actually takes them a step further by being completely wireless
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The things is, QI chargers efficiency is somewhere around 70%. That means that you will lose something like 30% of the energy, if you charge with QI. In this case (6000mAh battery) it means that you'd lose about 1800mAh from that battery as heat etc.
charger pack
. The first would be battery life with this pack, its amazing. I drove from Salt Lake City to Calgary, and played music on my phone the whole time. (synced with the car stereo via BT) when I arrived in Calgary the battery was at 6%

Would charging with 'stronger' charger affect battery longevity?

I'm just wondering if using a different charger would affect the Z1's battery life?
I've seen the description on the original charger, and it's charge rate is 1.5mAh and with the phone's 3mAh battery almost 2 hours for it to charge. Now, my sister and dad have tablets and their chargers' charge rates are 2mAh.
Again the question is, would using these charges affect the life of the Z1's battery? Again, I'm very concerned because as you know, Z1's cannot be replaced conventionally.
Thanks for your feedbacks. Appreciate it.
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I actually just bought the 2 Amp Samsung charger for that exact reason...takes too long to charge. I don't think there would be any issue.
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mrcrusha829 said:
I actually just bought the 2 Amp Samsung charger for that exact reason...takes too long to charge. I don't think there would be any issue.
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Thanks for the quick reply dude, but any technical references or long-term observations that would prove this is okay?
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FYI
Hi guys! You're totaly wrong. If you are use high-ampers chargers for your phones, you can destroy your battery or, at least, significantly reduce the battery life. I have some bad experience with motorola radio stations wich we use in some airport service groups. When we buy hi-ampers chargers for it we was happy by time of chargeing, but after half of year useing it we just throw out all accums, because it began to hold charge about hour or two only
After consulting with with motorolla support we have found that its strongly not reccomended to use charger with higher amperage then recomended by manufacturer.
As a result:
Positive - we have quick charging time
Negative - disastrous decline in the lifetime of the battery
romaha said:
Hi guys! You're totaly wrong. If you are use high-ampers chargers for your phones, you can destroy your battery or, at least, significantly reduce the battery life. I have some bad experience with motorola radio stations wich we use in some airport service groups. When we buy hi-ampers chargers for it we was happy by time of chargeing, but after half of year useing it we just throw out all accums, because it began to hold charge about hour or two only
After consulting with with motorolla support we have found that its strongly not reccomended to use charger with higher amperage then recomended by manufacturer.
As a result:
Positive - we have quick charging time
Negative - disastrous decline in the lifetime of the battery
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tat is motorola. this is sony.
i also brought a samsung 2amp charger to charge my previous xperia v n current phone.
sony phone itself hav a circuit to regulate the input if it found charging amp way too high.
romaha said:
Hi guys! You're totaly wrong. If you are use high-ampers chargers for your phones, you can destroy your battery or, at least, significantly reduce the battery life. I have some bad experience with motorola radio stations wich we use in some airport service groups. When we buy hi-ampers chargers for it we was happy by time of chargeing, but after half of year useing it we just throw out all accums, because it began to hold charge about hour or two only
After consulting with with motorolla support we have found that its strongly not reccomended to use charger with higher amperage then recomended by manufacturer.
As a result:
Positive - we have quick charging time
Negative - disastrous decline in the lifetime of the battery
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That's very unfortunate to hear dude, thanks for your input. I hope to not make the same mistakes again.
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chunlianghere said:
tat is motorola. this is sony.
i also brought a samsung 2amp charger to charge my previous xperia v n current phone.
sony phone itself hav a circuit to regulate the input if it found charging amp way too high.
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Thank you for your insight.
I have several questions though:
1) how long have you been using this 2amp charger? Was it continuous usage?
2) do you have any idea, or any exact figure on what "too high" means in numbers? That way we can all benefit if Sony phones could handle the extra "uhmp". And anyone who has a Z1 who can attest to this?
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2amp isn't problem.
I'm using that charger (from my N7) and only thing I changed is cable - I'm using magnetic-microusb cable and that's great combo.
I'm charging Z1 from the day 1 (I bought Z1 in October 2013) and my battery is still perfect.
25-30hours with.5.5-6.5 h of screen time.
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The rated output of a charger is the maximum output, however it will only output what the phone takes in - in other words, if the phone only takes 1.5A, the charger will only output 1.5A even if it's capable of 2.1A. Using a higher ampere charger would only work if, say, the phone can take in 1.5A but the charger only outputs 1A, then using a 1.5A charger would boost charging times
funky0308 said:
2amp isn't problem.
I'm using that charger (from my N7) and only thing I changed is cable - I'm using magnetic-microusb cable and that's great combo.
I'm charging Z1 from the day 1 (I bought Z1 in October 2013) and my battery is still perfect.
25-30hours with.5.5-6.5 h of screen time.
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Hmmm, that looks promising, I also ordered a magnetic micro usb cable few weeks back. Thanks for your feedback dude.
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pandaball said:
The rated output of a charger is the maximum output, however it will only output what the phone takes in - in other words, if the phone only takes 1.5A, the charger will only output 1.5A even if it's capable of 2.1A. Using a higher ampere charger would only work if, say, the phone can take in 1.5A but the charger only outputs 1A, then using a 1.5A charger would boost charging times
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Yeah, that's what I also believe. But hey, then why do most gadgets heat up a little bit more when using a stronger charger? I'm not doubting the principles that you mentioned, but I need something tangible to look at: like an article from Sony for Z1 itself.
The other guy's experience and your comment here seems to be coinciding with each other, but You can never be too sure right?
But seriously, Thank you for your insight. I really appreciate it. That's what I like about the community here. Thanks man!
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digiknowzone said:
Yeah, that's what I also believe. But hey, then why do most gadgets heat up a little bit more when using a stronger charger? I'm not doubting the principles that you mentioned, but I need something tangible to look at: like an article from Sony for Z1 itself.
The other guy's experience and your comment here seems to be coinciding with each other, but You can never be too sure right?
But seriously, Thank you for your insight. I really appreciate it. That's what I like about the community here. Thanks man!
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Gadgets heat up more when using a stronger charger because of my second premise - that the phone is capable of taking in a higher amperage than the charger that it came with. I think such a scenario is more likely since manufacturers would find a balance between charging times and heat, since too much heat would permanently damage the phone's charging circuitry as well as shortening battery life, so they provide a charger that outputs a lower maximum than what the phone can take in.
I do not know of any documentation Sony might have on this, but this is more or less physics in action. I did find a couple of readings here and here, and the main snippets are as follows:
PopularMechanics said:
But the amperage rating is only a measure of the adapter's maximum capability—the actual amperage is determined by the load (i.e., the iPad or iPhone)
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HowToGeek said:
If you connected the tablet’s charger to the smartphone, nothing would explode or catch fire. The smartphone likely won’t draw the maximum number of amps the charger can provide, but that should be fine. The smartphone may even charge a bit faster.
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