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Unused Google Maps still eats my battery?

Hi Folks
I did search for this before posting..
I have a SGS andriod v.2.3.3. My phone is set up:
Using Stock samsung SMS, MMS and dialer interfaces.
GPS and WiFi Off (except when i need Wifi)
Background data and auto-sync OFF
Latitude Signed Out.
Yet for some reason Google Maps is always running, even if I force kill it, it still reboots after about 2 mins and its using 45% of my battery resources. My battery only lasts about 36 hours of casual light use and is on standby when im in bed.
I have been thinking of turning off "Use WIreless Networks", but do i need to?.
I dont use Google Maps, as i dont drive and dont really travel many places beyond work or friends. I very rarely if every use Pyont or latitude.
I do love this phone and I know Google like to know where and who you are, but is there any way of dumping or swtiching off google Maps and maybe switching to better Mapping, because even though i dont use GPS today, Im not saying I never will.
Many Thanks
Night

very strange. its not normal for google maps to do that. maybe you should try a new rom like jvq.
you can get rid of google maps entirely if you have root, just delete it from the system/apps folder. but i don't really reommend this. Im sure there must be another way to fix ur problem.

Ya i had the same problem since i last updated maps. Uninstalling the update did the trick

Download the Autostarts app. It can kill and app from staring up in various states, like just afer start up, switching connectivity (like wifi to 3G) and many others. You'd be surprised at what's running on your phone and when it starts up.

Many thanks for both replies...
Ill remove the update and report back., but give me a few days though .
There are many threads all over the web about this Google Maps problem, but ill have a look at the ROMs Thanks.
I did buy this phone pre-owned and just replaced the battery (official Samsung 1500mah one), but its still drinking it.
My HTC Wildfire got 5 days out of its battery with the settings above, to be fair, now that SamsungApps are buying up android apps such as Angry birds, accuweather & clock, Sms widgets & news.. I wonder if I need android at all.
A few questions..
Do I need "Use Wireless Networks" switched on for the phone itself. I have read of folk using GPS ON instead.
I do realise that google android powers the phone so dumping their maps may affect the phone & sms itself, but Is there an alternative to Google Maps, which whern active might deactivate theirs.
Thanks
Night
Thanks Devenblue4u.... sorry, you were typing as I was replying.. hehe. Will definetly try this because ReChild App Killer isnt that good.
Night

Ok, Ran a few battery tests and using the settings in my OP, I also turned off "Use Wireless Networks" and got the Battery to 3days, 17hours, which is good.
I did try the Autostarts app as well, but it kept locking uyp and resetting my phone.
I uninstalled Googles update, but that didnt help.
TO test I.. Force stop all the 3 instances of google Maps > Clear maps Cache > Turn off Wireless Networks, and this seems to stop Maps from searching my position.
Although this solves my battery issue, which is great.. It does just become a Samsung Wave, which means, I have to turn it all back on again to do any of the Galaxys good stuff, which makes me wonder if im not crippling my phone.
Any thoughts from anyone would be great
Cheers
Night

As suggested m8, flash another rom, look for something that has good reports in the thread comments, jvq as mentioned.

NightOrchid, there's nothing wrong with your phone. It's a bug in Google Maps since 5.4.0. If you check the user reviews on Android Market, you'll see that many people have the same problem. Mine also uses a chunk of the battery when I don't even use it. The phone reports that it keeps using the GPS with Latitude turned off. I have to force-stop it twice after restarting the phone.

Uncheck the network location and kill the Map's Network Location Service from running apps.
This worked for me on JVQ, Maps 5.7 (modded version for world navigation)

Try Autorun Manager if Autostarts failed. In Advanced mode, you can search for Maps and disable event triggers like startup, application removed, replaced and installed. And if it's running as service, don't kill it by task killer, use the built-in one, just force stop and you'll be okay.

Google Services draining battery?

So, I'm rooted on VZW with no OTA and suddenly had abnormal battery drain today. Any idea why this may be happening?

Mine is kinda high today as well. I saw something about Google having issues today with email and other applications. This could be related, or phones can't connect to Google so it just keeps on trying.
Sounds nice but don't know if it's true or not.
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Install Greenify. Hibernate all the APPs that you don't want notification from first. This app doesn't allow APPs to Wakelock you're phone. Once you find which offending account is the issue you'll be ok. I found that Facebook woke up my phone thousands of times and I have up notifications. Best choice ever ?
This app requires root and free in the app store.
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Greenify can't touch system apps to my knowledge but yes, it is an excellent solution for rogue apps that take up resources when they shouldn't. :good:
As far as the google services battery drain, I eliminated that by simply turning off google location services. The actual GPS is so quick to lock that I haven't run into a scenario yet where I'd absolutely need to turn it back on.

My location services are off. Doesnt seem to help me much. I also bought donation greenify and greenfied Google Play services and Google Play Store
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With 15:34 for time on, and 1:45 of screen on time, I'm currently at exactly 50% battery. I feel it was something awry with Google Services yesterday and an isolated issue. Location services were off today, but I did nothing with Greenify, yet at least.

nismology said:
Greenify can't touch system apps to my knowledge but yes, it is an excellent solution for rogue apps that take up resources when they shouldn't. :good:
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Donate version is able to greenify system apps.
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Yeah I had the same problem, yesterday. I was having Google services use ~60% of battery life. Surprisingly I still got all day battery life.
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heffzilla said:
Donate version is able to greenify system apps.
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Didn't know that but knowledge is good! :good:

shekinahsmoke said:
My location services are off. Doesnt seem to help me much. I also bought donation greenify and greenfied Google Play services and Google Play Store
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How is that working? Considering doing the same as I've already tried removing the sytem app and replacing with Play Services from the play store. That seemed to work for a few days but the nip wake locks are worse than ever right now. Killing the otherwise stellar battery.

iowabowtech said:
How is that working? Considering doing the same as I've already tried removing the sytem app and replacing with Play Services from the play store. That seemed to work for a few days but the nip wake locks are worse than ever right now. Killing the otherwise stellar battery.
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works great today..... google services error has gone away today and my battery life seems longer. :good:

I just froze google play services and will look at the battery stats later to report the difference. What apps are affected by freezing this though? It seems Hangouts is one.

I don't know why, but all my days are pretty much exactly the same location-wise and some days have huge wakelocks, others don't.
Aside from installing the play store services which seemed to help quite a bit, I've also noticed a nice drop in wakelocks since I went on to Google's Location History dashboard (https://maps.google.com/locationhistory/b/0/dashboard?hl=en) and deleted all my history so maybe it could re-create it.
One thing I've noticed is that on high-wakelock days, my GPS is going nutso. My point markers on that dashboard will have me moving ALL OVER the place, even while I'm just sitting at my desk at work.
This leads me to the conclusion that signal plays a huge role, and I do have bad signal at work (1 bar, and can't get a good GPS lock at my desk).
Also, you can minimize these wakelocks without the use of Greenify by simply turning off Location Reporting and Location Using WiFi and Mobile Networks. This dropped my wakelocks to pretty much 0, immediately. But you'll lose things like weather widget geolocation and some Google Now features. On the other hand, this is a more viable option than freezing services which can cause you to lose push notifications for GMail among other things.

I've been messing with this throughout the day today and the problem is high NIP wakelocks originating from Google Services...specifically the Network Location process. So the fix for me appears to be disabling newtork location while leaving GPS location enabled. This is usally the reverse of how I do things but for this phone, it may be the better solution. Google Now is still working for me, as is maps/navigation. There may be some casualties of disabling newtwork location but I haven't run across them yet. I've always viewed these two options as coarse (network) vs.fine (gps) location. So I'm hoping GPS picks up the slack and I don't lose any functionality. What I could see happening is that it just takes longer for location to be confirmed because network location is faster. I'll take that in lieu of battery drain however.
Still need to run like this for a couple days to see how things go but I was getting hundreds and even thousands of NIP wakelocks in a run cycle prior to disabling network location. I'm now getting zero.

iowabowtech said:
I've been messing with this throughout the day today and the problem is high NIP wakelocks originating from Google Services...specifically the Network Location process. So the fix for me appears to be disabling newtork location while leaving GPS location enabled. This is usally the reverse of how I do things but for this phone, it may be the better solution. Google Now is still working for me, as is maps/navigation. There may be some casualties of disabling newtwork location but I haven't run across them yet. I've always viewed these two options as coarse (network) vs.fine (gps) location. So I'm hoping GPS picks up the slack and I don't lose any functionality. What I could see happening is that it just takes longer for location to be confirmed because network location is faster. I'll take that in lieu of battery drain however.
Still need to run like this for a couple days to see how things go but I was getting hundreds and even thousands of NIP wakelocks in a run cycle prior to disabling network location. I'm now getting zero.
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I believe disabling network location will disable Google Now location cards, such as weather or places.

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I believe disabling network location will disable Google Now location cards, such as weather or places.
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You are correct, there's the first casualty confirmed. I'm going to run like this for a few days and see what gives. I don't use the cards anyway so no issue there. If anyone knows of other functionality loss, please speak up.

Like some of you have said, I don't rely on Google Now cards, and I don't leave the city I'm in, so for things like weather, I am find with the hourly syncing of my weather app. If I do need GPS/location services, it's not hard to toggle and battery life is incredible. I feel it was just something going rogue the other day. Today, with locaiton off, I've been off the charger for 15:34 with 1:24 screen on time and I'm at 58%. I spent a good portion of today in a sub-basement on airplane mode, with wifi active in the background though. Walking around campus, I used Songza via 4G due to some wifi weak spots. I can't be happier with this phone, as my GNex would have long since been dead, even on airplane mode.
EDIT: Holy ****, 15:34 sounded familiar, checked my post from yesterday, I responded then at the same time off the charger...

Okay so I may have fixed it on my phone.
I forced closed "Google Play Services" and "Google Devices Framework" then rebooted.
Google services was using it 50% of battery consistently through the day and now its down to using 2% of battery. I'll come back at the end of the day with battery stats.
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this night was a pain.... the phone was on 83 and when i wake it was on 76..... google services was draining all my battery, who could fix this?

[Q] Google play services battery drain..

Anyone having trouble with over normal battery drain from google play services? I haven't had any issues with this unntil now
I do not have google now on, location services is off, so what is it that drain so much?
Might be a stupid question, but anyways thanks for all answers!
Edit: the images is in norwegian.. Sorry about that!

Norside said:
Anyone having trouble with over normal battery drain from google play services? I haven't had any issues with this unntil now
I do not have google now on, location services is off, so what is it that drain so much?
Might be a stupid question, but anyways thanks for all answers!
Edit: the images is in norwegian.. Sorry about that!
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try these settings.
Settings -> Location access -> Off
Google Settings ->Location -> Location Reporting Off, Location History Off
with those settings, i can have google now On, and still not battery drain.

I have google now and location settings on. I don't have battery drain. I average 22 hours with 6 hours screen on time.
Sorry, Gsam says my average is about 18 1/2 hours. Play services uses 0.1%

nlpwakecollector under google services is wake locking my device like crazy. Trying different settings to see if I can reduce the wakelocks

If you are rooted, uninstall play services and reinstall it from the play store.

Im going to try that last thing cash. . So thanks for that
Anyways, have 17% left and only used the phone for 11 hours and 3.45min screen on time, not that
Good...
And im not rooted yet, has not felt the need for it like with my old galaxy s2..

MoNsTeReNeRgY22 said:
If you are rooted, uninstall play services and reinstall it from the play store.
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Tried that, didnt help. Still getting decent battery life so I am not that upset

Bobaroo said:
nlpwakecollector under google services is wake locking my device like crazy. Trying different settings to see if I can reduce the wakelocks
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Location.
1. Disable location reporting from both Google Settings and the Settings menu of the phone.
2. Clear data of the Google Play Services app.
3. Reboot.
Let us know if it helps.
On another hand, on Android Police there is an article about how Play Services drained the batteries of numerous people across the world. So it might be something temporary over on Google's side.

Norside said:
Anyone having trouble with over normal battery drain from google play services? I haven't had any issues with this unntil now
I do not have google now on, location services is off, so what is it that drain so much?
Might be a stupid question, but anyways thanks for all answers!
Edit: the images is in norwegian.. Sorry about that!
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Before blaming Location services, people should do some googling. On 11/19, there's been reports that Google Play Services is causing a good number of people to have battery issues. It seems to be an issue on Google's side.
Wait a day or two before making any changes.

robogo1982 said:
Location.
1. Disable location reporting from both Google Settings and the Settings menu of the phone.
2. Clear data of the Google Play Services app.
3. Reboot.
Let us know if it helps.
Nope above instructions do not work. Just tried them May be we just need to wait for the next update to google play services
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Sucks that its happening, but glad to see that other people are experiencing the same issue with Google Play Services that we have seen the last couple of days. Its not horrible, but it is draining the battery an extra 10-15% during the work day so i get home with 70% instead of 85%
Hopefully google fixes it or someone figures out the actual cause !

http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/1...lay-services-seems-to-be-a-battery-hog-today/

vween said:
Before blaming Location services, people should do some googling. On 11/19, there's been reports that Google Play Services is causing a good number of people to have battery issues. It seems to be an issue on Google's side.
Wait a day or two before making any changes.
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You are right. Today I do not have a battery drain like how it was draining yesterday Only thing that I did yesterday was to uninstall Goolge Play Services and reinstalled it from play store. After full nite's recharge it is doing really good on battery like always. Today I'm still left with 77% of battery after 11 hours on battery. So in fact my battery is better than ever.

I hate to bump an old thread, but I am having this issue as well. My phones been on for 11.5 hours and Google play services has kept it awake for 10.5. I thought it was from listening to music, but I didn't listen at all today and still the same.
One thing I do notice is it keeps popping up saying keeping requested music in the notification bar even though I haven't selected any new songs in a couple days and they are all downloaded already.
I'm not rooted yet
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[Q] google services

can somebody explain to me what google services do?, ca it be turned off? what is its importance? all this queations because it drains battery a lot, about 30%, I had a S3, and google servs took 11% more or less, why such difference? thanks in advance

winol said:
can somebody explain to me what google services do?, ca it be turned off? what is its importance? all this queations because it drains battery a lot, about 30%, I had a S3, and google servs took 11% more or less, why such difference? thanks in advance
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I think among other things it does the "location" and Google Now stuff - some of the recent builds have been quite bad and a lot of people had problems. Since I don't use Google Now (for the moment is useless in my country) and I rarely update I keep the services greenified and Play Store and Maps frozen - problem solved

winol said:
can somebody explain to me what google services do?, ca it be turned off? what is its importance? all this queations because it drains battery a lot, about 30%, I had a S3, and google servs took 11% more or less, why such difference? thanks in advance
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I think google services do the following things
Syncronising contacts to Goggle+
Syncronising Gmail for Gmail app.
'Would think google MAPS wont work either, just a hunch?'
Controls services inside Google Play/App store. Without it, google play wont work.
I've tried disableing it. Everything seems ok, except the above features are kinda disabled.
I have a hunch that google services and android system ui, works together.

Do you have network location services checked? I unchecked that and google services doesn't show up on my battery usage list anymore. And i now have about 20% more battery everyday. My phone seems to be locating me ok without that checked ie maps and nike running app. Its under settings/connections/location services/uncheck 'use wireless networks'. I hope that helps.

Nlpwackelock and Nlp.collector.wakelock

Google play services is kepping my device awake more than before (like 1 hour). Never had this kind of issue. The wakelocks are the ones from the tittles. This started happening after the upgrade on google play store. Don't know if them upgrade play services too or it is related to a particular app. Stock room, latest version.
Any ideas? Someone is having the same problem?
Thanks in advance

NahuelMS said:
Google play services is kepping my device awake more than before (like 1 hour). Never had this kind of issue. The wakelocks are the ones from the tittles. This started happening after the upgrade on google play store. Don't know if them upgrade play services too or it is related to a particular app. Stock room, latest version.
Any ideas? Someone is having the same problem?
Thanks in advance
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Do not double post, your previous post is quite visible to everyone, but you are not saying anything that would be enough information for most people to respond to, particularly "staying awake more" doesn't really say ANYTHING without some kind of context.
What you are seeing is quite normal under some circumstances... did you Google the wakelocks you are referencing?

Sorry, didn't do it on purpoise. The browser get stuck and it come double.
Yes, did google the wakeclock, it is related to de sync/notifications of apps. The thing is before the update y didn't get that wake up time, it was around 3min per charge. Now i get 1hour. I am trying to find is it related to one app or is a google play services problem.

NahuelMS said:
Sorry, didn't do it on purpoise. The browser get stuck and it come double.
Yes, did google the wakeclock, it is related to de sync/notifications of apps. The thing is before the update y didn't get that wake up time, it was around 3min per charge. Now i get 1hour. I am trying to find is it related to one app or is a google play services problem.
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Google services and such often vary because of server side issues, not always a device thing... but my device averages 1.5 hours awake for every 8 hours of idle time (assuming no doze, but my average usage is 60-90 minutes of doze per hours), been that way since I got this device, so what you are talking about is pretty normal for me.

Problem fixed!
Uninstall play services and reinstalled. Also wipe cache, delete data from playstore, playservices, etc. Dissabled smartlock and activated later.
The wakelocks dissapears, i think it was a problem with play services tryin to sync something and get stuck.

NahuelMS said:
Problem fixed!
Uninstall play services and reinstalled. Also wipe cache, delete data from playstore, playservices, etc. Dissabled smartlock and activated later.
The wakelocks dissapears, i think it was a problem with play services tryin to sync something and get stuck.
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That worked for me too! Wakelock went from 30% to 5%. Thanks!
Edit: Well, after 24 hours, it seems the fix was only temporary