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Hi All,
I was wondering if I could use my unlocked 8525 with Verizon's net work if I switched to them? I'm not sure about compatability of the phone with Verizon's voice and data services and was wondering if anyone knew.
Thanks
I dont think so. Att and verizon use two different technologies. Att uses GSM and Verizon uses CDMA. Im almost certain tho a phone that is based on GSM cannot be used on a CDMA network. The phone will work on TMobile or USCellular. They use a GSM based technology. Verizon Sprint and Nextel all use CDMA. If i am wrong and you can use the GSM based phone with Verizon CDMA then someone please correct me. But i am pretty certain you cannot.
OK,thanks. Thats what I thought
Verizon does not have sim cards, is that correct?
mistadj16 said:
Verizon does not have sim cards, is that correct?
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Not that I've ever seen.
I know sprint phones have sim card slots, but they are not used, at least in the USA.
My guess is that CDMA phones can be used in the same way as GSM phones as far as switching sims to use different carriers, but the CDMA carriers in the 'states don't use that functionality (probably to keep a tighter grip on their sucke....customers and wring more money from them through phone sales/upgrades and extra services, like a data service to put on extra ring tones )
I know that I don't know much about these phones, but what of the setting inside of Settings/Personal/Phone/Band where you can select WCDMA as your network type? I've got an 8525 and it shows as an option, but I just don't know if anyone's tried it before.
CDMA and GSM phones are totally different. The only SIM based verizon phone that Ive seen its the Blackberry 8300 its world edition soo it can bu used through a cdma and also a GSM carrier. I would be interested if anyone knows how to say make a sprint phone capable of being on verizons network. That would be something different.
actually a sprint phone is capable of being used on verison network any cdma phone is. in short the way cdma works the subscriber info is assigned to the phone's esn by the carrier so only the carrier can change your phone with gsm the sim (Subscriber Identity Module) holds the subscriber info and it is assigned to a sim card id not a esn (electronic serial number) so all you have to do to get a sprint phone to work for verizon is get verizon to let it (GOOD LUCK WITH THAT) you would have better luck the other way around verizon is the pickiest co out there when it comes to network integrity and security issues they seem to think that letting people use any phone they want could somehow hurt their network
vn1977 said:
I know that I don't know much about these phones, but what of the setting inside of Settings/Personal/Phone/Band where you can select WCDMA as your network type? I've got an 8525 and it shows as an option, but I just don't know if anyone's tried it before.
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WCDMA is 3G. 3G on GSM systems is essentially a CDMA standard, but not the same CDMA as Verizon uses. It is not compatible.
-Jay
Hi! I bought my Imagio from verizon I unlocked it, but it doesn't recieve any GSM signal, the settings are on GSM/UMTS anyone has an idea how to resolve a problem... By the way is anyway to cook this?
I need to unlock my phone before I travel in a few days, how did you unlock your phone?
akomecr said:
Hi! I bought my Imagio from verizon I unlocked it, but it doesn't recieve any GSM signal, the settings are on GSM/UMTS anyone has an idea how to resolve a problem... By the way is anyway to cook this?
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Do you have a working SIM card from AT&T or T-Mobile in the SIM slot?
bastukee said:
I need to unlock my phone before I travel in a few days, how did you unlock your phone?
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Call VZW and ask.
On ebay it's a ton of services about whitestone unlock, and my problem was an issue on the operating band of GSM for example in the USA you must use 950/1900 on other countries like Costa Rica you need 1800, thanks to all for your help
You should be able to contact VZW and have them unlock it so you can use whatever carrier SIM you have for the country/area you are in. The stock SIM is Vodaphone and I think will only work where Vodaphone service exists. Otherwise make sure the phone is in Global and not CDMA only. Go to the Settings Tab, click Menu then select Phone Network Mode select Network tab.
I called verizon and they gave me codes to unlock both my phones. I slapped an ATT sim into my imagio and it was working on the ATT network, no problem at all.
Hi, where do you enter the sim unlock code on Imagio?
Thanks.
devlspawn said:
I called verizon and they gave me codes to unlock both my phones. I slapped an ATT sim into my imagio and it was working on the ATT network, no problem at all.
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I just got off the phone with Verizon in regard to this.
Below is what I found. The Global Verizon Rep will be happier if you enter the code while you are on the phone with them; they want to verify that it works. It actually took about 10 minutes.
Here is what I found: http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/htc-imagio/138569-how-unlock-verizon-imagio-sim-card.html
If you are going to be traveling abroad or simply want your Imagio to be unlocked its very easy to do and should only take about 3-5 minutes on the phone with Verizon.
Call 1(800)-711-8300 from a different phone, enter your Verizon phone number, then select option 2.
Tell them that you will be traveling abroad and plan to just buy a pre-paid SIM card when you get there, and that you simply need the unlock code for your phone. They will check your account standings, and then give you an 8 digit code.
You need to enter the code in the security section of your phone.
With TF3D...
Start>Settings> All Settings> Personal> Security
Without TF3D Enabled...
Start> Settings> Personal> Security
One you do this, soft reset your phone and you are all done. I can take my work phones SIM card (AT&T), put it in my Imagio, and use my Imagio for work now. I did not test the data yet because I do not have data on my AT&T plan. Although if anyone does this and wants to check it, keep in mind you will have to change the number for the data line. both Sprint and Verizon use #777. I am not sure what AT&T or TMobile use.
I have an Imagio from VERIZON.
I had unlocked the GSM network, Should I Unlock the CDMA network as well if I want to use the CDMA Net work?
or I jus need 1 unlock code for both GSM and CDMA?
So, I will have 2 no. in 1 phone one is injected, and another one is using sim card.
I would like to hear your advice about testing multiple carriers on my nexus phone. Currently i'm on T-mobile prepaid, but i would like to begin testing other carriers to see which one does better in my area.
Just a few questions i have:
- Do you keep your same telephone number though all the carriers (is this even possible) or do you have different numbers for each carrier you are testing?
- Is this as simple as swapping between sims?
- Do i need to reset my APN everytime i swap between sims?
mclain1 said:
I would like to hear your advice about testing multiple carriers on my nexus phone. Currently i'm on T-mobile prepaid, but i would like to begin testing other carriers to see which one does better in my area.
Just a few questions i have:
- Do you keep your same telephone number though all the carriers (is this even possible) or do you have different numbers for each carrier you are testing?
- Is this as simple as swapping between sims?
- Do i need to reset my APN everytime i swap between sims?
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I am planning to test multiple carriers as well. For the phone # I recommend you get Google Voice. With Voice you can use any # and have the calls/texts forward to G Voice. The only issue is MMS which do not work. I have 3 phones at present and they all ring when a call comes in using Google Voice. This is far simpler than trying to port a single phone # through multiple carriers.
I am presently testing the AT&T version of StraightTalk. Will get a T-Mo ST Sim next month and try it out. Then will try a regular TMo plan. The process is the same as the original set-up. Add the Sim, start the service and change the APN (have to change each time as this is how the data gets routed).
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swest6602 said:
I am planning to test multiple carriers as well. For the phone # I recommend you get Google Voice. With Voice you can use any # and have the calls/texts forward to G Voice. The only issue is MMS which do not work. I have 3 phones at present and they all ring when a call comes in using Google Voice. This is far simpler than trying to port a single phone # through multiple carriers.
I am presently testing the AT&T version of StraightTalk. Will get a T-Mo ST Sim next month and try it out. Then will try a regular TMo plan. The process is the same as the original set-up. Add the Sim, start the service and change the APN (have to change each time as this is how the data gets routed).
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Ah very nice informative post thank you...!
2 questions for ya..
- Is there a difference between T-Mo prepaid service vs their regular plan as far as coverage/performance..?
- How would one know what information to change too in the APN. Is it pre-programmed on the SIM card and just load default settings on the phone?
You're choices are basically Tmo or ATT, yeah some of the MVNOs have lesser coverage but there isn't much "testing" to do IMO.
- As for phone number, port to google voice and you never have to worry about your number again.
- All you have to do is swap sims.
- You don't have to reset APNs but you will have to either switch APNs or add a new APN, the data is a google search away.
- There is "supposedly" a small difference between tmo pre and post paid, I find it hard to believe but the only way to test (going out all over the country to map out coverage) I'm certainly not willing to do and I wouldn't trust the maps to be accurate.
- Do a search the info is available.
Going to Cancun on Thursday. So I called Spring about my GS4 & GS3. They enabled the codes so that they connect to the towers in Mexico. But you still get charged $2.99 per call and for each text message. But I thought i read you could put a Sim-Card in these phones for them to work international. Anyone ever tried this?
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Going to Cancun on Thursday. So I called Spring about my GS4 & GS3. They enabled the codes so that they connect to the towers in Mexico. But you still get charged $2.99 per call and for each text message. But I thought i read you could put a Sim-Card in these phones for them to work international. Anyone ever tried this?
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Ok, you need to do a little more research on the phones themselves. The GS3 does not have a removable SIM, it is embedded, so there's no chance of you inserting a local SIM etc.
The GS4 does have an accessible SIM slot but it is locked to Sprint. Even if you insert a non-Sprint SIM it won't work. Sprint want's you to pay their rates for international GSM roaming.
Even if you meet their requirements and get Sprint to unlock your GS4 SIM slot, it will work for calls and SMS with a non-Sprint SIM but no data (apparently some have found out, look in the forums)..
LordLugard said:
Ok, you need to do a little more research on the phones themselves. The GS3 does not have a removable SIM, it is embedded, so there's no chance of you inserting a local SIM etc.
The GS4 does have an accessible SIM slot but it is locked to Sprint. Even if you insert a non-Sprint SIM it won't work. Sprint want's you to pay their rates for international GSM roaming.
Even if you meet their requirements and get Sprint to unlock your GS4 SIM slot, it will work for calls and SMS with a non-Sprint SIM but no data (apparently some have found out, look in the forums)..
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I haven't been out of the country yet to verify it, but I believe if you're rooted you will be able to get data by making a build.prop edit so you can add the appropriate APNs. Some people have reported though that they didn't need to do this, and data just worked automatically when they put in the SIM. I believe it was a UK carrier's SIM that just worked. I'll have a chance next week to try it out in Costa Rica and see if I can get data working.
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I haven't been out of the country yet to verify it, but I believe if you're rooted you will be able to get data by making a build.prop edit so you can add the appropriate APNs. Some people have reported though that they didn't need to do this, and data just worked automatically when they put in the SIM. I believe it was a UK carrier's SIM that just worked. I'll have a chance next week to try it out in Costa Rica and see if I can get data working.
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Hmmm. Lots of conflicting info on this. Someone did the build.prop thing and mentioned that the apn options were grayed out, so he basically couldn't edit anything. Even posted screenshots. Please try out your scenario and keep us informed. Thanks.
Anyone check to see if other gsm sim cards would work in the Verizon version of the moto e4?
Also will this verizon model work on Jio network (850 band available in this set) in India?
I can confirm it works with AT&T Freedompop GSM SIM after buying a $2 unlock code on ebay. Noted it picks up LTE bands 2,4,5,17. Band 5 is the 850 Mhz frequency.
Whyzor said:
I can confirm it works with AT&T Freedompop GSM SIM after buying a $2 unlock code on ebay. Noted it picks up LTE bands 2,4,5,17. Band 5 is the 850 Mhz frequency.
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You able to place calls??
juggamonkey said:
You able to place calls??
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I use T-Mobile and after buying the SIM unlock on eBay, I am able to use both voice and data.
That's crazy cricket doesn't allow voice calls for me .I ordered unlock code from eBay also
juggamonkey said:
That's crazy cricket doesn't allow voice calls for me .I ordered unlock code from eBay also
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You may need to change the settings to use T-Mobile/GSM network or something like that. Some people mentioned it in the slickdeals forum:
https://slickdeals.net/f/10418732-verizon-moto-e4-prepaid-39-88-walmart
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That's crazy cricket doesn't allow voice calls for me .I ordered unlock code from eBay also
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When I first inserted the cricket sim, it wont allow the voice calls. I switched the preferred network from 4g to 3g, the calls worked. Switched it back to 4g and they still work. Try doing this, it works..
EDIT: Remember, it switches from LTE to 3G when making the calls. I got the unlock code from ebay for $2.09.
cyclops13 said:
When I first inserted the cricket sim, it wont allow the voice calls. I switched the preferred network from 4g to 3g, the calls worked. Switched it back to 4g and they still work. Try doing this, it works..
EDIT: Remember, it switches from LTE to 3G when making the calls. I got the unlock code from ebay for $2.09.
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Hey thanks ! That worked
so, 100% sure that it works to make calls, data and sms when try unlock code from ebay? is yes, i´ll buy one to try in México
I unlocked mine with a code off eBay. I am currently using it on Cricket(At&t). Everything is working fine..data, calls, texts, MMS. Just had to find the correct APN settings. From my understanding...it should be usable on Sprint/Boost but who would want to.
Hi, anyone know how to dial special numbers like *611 or *264 when your using another sim (from other carrier, nota Verizon) ? Because im trying but always appear +1 simbol before i dial
My friend bought the Verizon prepaid version and isn't able to connect to many WiFi networks, like the airport ones (he tried in a couple different airports and none worked), any ideas how to fix that?
I unlocked my verizon E4 through ebay and checked it works with Jio in Mumbai -
4G was working without setting up the APN - just put the sim
I unlocked mine for $2 on ebay and my at&t sim works. sms does have a slight delay sending at times but lte and calls work.
This might sound like a stupid question, but this could be used with a Verizon post-paid SIM, correct? My son has the HTC 10 and it got dropped in water but he is away at school. He should be able to just run to Target, grab one for $40, and take that nano SIM out of his bad HTC 10 and pop it in the Verizon Pre-paid Moto E4 and that's it, correct? No need to call Verizon or anything?
acejavelin said:
This might sound like a stupid question, but this could be used with a Verizon post-paid SIM, correct? My son has the HTC 10 and it got dropped in water but he is away at school. He should be able to just run to Target, grab one for $40, and take that nano SIM out of his bad HTC 10 and pop it in the Verizon Pre-paid Moto E4 and that's it, correct? No need to call Verizon or anything?
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I believe that is correct from what I've read here.
Supposedly, already activated Verizon post-paid sims are good to go. It's when you try to activate the Verizon prepaid phone that you run into problems because the prepaid IMEI is NOT whitelisted. Of course, 'm only repeating what I've read. I don't use Verizon, so YMMV.
acejavelin said:
This might sound like a stupid question, but this could be used with a Verizon post-paid SIM, correct? My son has the HTC 10 and it got dropped in water but he is away at school. He should be able to just run to Target, grab one for $40, and take that nano SIM out of his bad HTC 10 and pop it in the Verizon Pre-paid Moto E4 and that's it, correct? No need to call Verizon or anything?
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Also not a Verizon user here, but as I understand it, putting postpaid VZW sim in a prepaid device that hasn't been active on a prepaid account will result in a lock being put on your postpaid account. This will necessitate a call to VZW customer service to 'reactivate' the account - no calls messages or data until you make that call (from another line)
This is what I recall from discussion around similar use case in the Moto e 2015 forums. Ymmv.
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Also not a Verizon user here, but as I understand it, putting postpaid VZW sim in a prepaid device that hasn't been active on a prepaid account will result in a lock being put on your postpaid account. This will necessitate a call to VZW customer service to 'reactivate' the account - no calls messages or data until you make that call (from another line)
This is what I recall from discussion around similar use case in the Moto e 2015 forums. Ymmv.
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Hmm... That could be a problem, at least in the short term, but he was able to come up with a Verizon LG G2 and popped his SIM in and it worked. A couple days in rice may help, but I have my doubts.
In the mean time, since Target had these on sale for $39.99, I picked one up (my local store had about a dozen in stock) in case the phone is dead and he decides not to get it repaired under the service agreement by paying the deductible (which is $150 I think). Not going to open it for the time being, but will see what happens as time goes on.
I am a little concerned when you say "will result in a lock being put on your postpaid account", since this account has 3 lines in it and neither of us is the account holder. :/ To you have a link back to that information?
I read that they freeze your account and won't let it work with the prepaid phone (on Slickdeals)