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According to Jean-Baptiste Queru of the AOSP, the xoom and nexus aren't supported.... "There is no support for 4.2 on Nexus S and Xoom. Those devices should
continue using 4.1.2."
later, he says he cannot comment on the future of those devices. What does this mean for us?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1951841
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Hmm I feel the Xoom would run 4.2 fine I think it is a marketing ploy to make people upgrade my Xoom still flies on 4.1 hopefully modders can help out as I don't really wanna up date
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Hmm I feel the Xoom would run 4.2 fine I think it is a marketing ploy to make people upgrade my Xoom still flies on 4.1 hopefully modders can help out as I don't really wanna up date
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I think they're working on it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1885269
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unofficialy it will eventually come and it will run as smooth as nexus 10 because xoom has the capacity and hardware for it...it's not a big jump from 4.1.2 to 4.2
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it will run as smooth as nexus 10 because xoom has the capacity and hardware for it
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Don't kid yourself. The Xoom shows its age on 4.1.2 as it is. Compare the performance to a Nexus 7 or Galaxy Nexus and you can see the difference in speed. Just because the Xoom has the hardware to support the latest version, doesn't mean its going to keep up with devices with fresh hardware. Its coming up on 2 years as it is, which means a lot when there's new, better hardware coming out every ~6 months.
The one feature from 4.2 that I really wanted is multi user support. It was an obvious omission from tablets right from the beginning.
What are the chances of fully activating this feature in 4.1.2, seeing as it already has the underpinnings under the surface?
Yes, it's sad, but those that say it's a "marketing ploy" just need to realize how old the Xoom is and how much work it takes to port these new releases to devices. Money doesn't grow on trees, and neither do man-hours. Once the 4.2 branch started happening and the Nexus 10 hardware was finalized it became Google's standard 10-inch tablet internally. The guys who would have been doing the port internally in Google probably have N10s on their desks and their Xooms are collecting dust in some drawer. That's the way the world works.
That being said, if you look back to ICS, the 4.0.1 code dropped... and no Xoom support. Then the 4.0.2 code dropped... and no Xoom support. It wasn't until 4.0.3 that the Xoom gained AOSP support. I wouldn't be suprised to see the Xoom supported in a 4.2.2 (or later) release. The Nexus 4 isn't even supported in AOSP yet, for goodness' sakes! It will probably be someone's 20% time project and it will happen eventually.
Either way, if it doesn't hit AOSP, I'll either sell it to get some dough for a N10 (my mom has been talking about buying it from me) or lend my support to the porting process during the holiday break. The multi-user mode in 4.2 would be very useful on the Xoom.
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Don't kid yourself. The Xoom shows its age on 4.1.2 as it is. Compare the performance to a Nexus 7 or Galaxy Nexus and you can see the difference in speed. Just because the Xoom has the hardware to support the latest version, doesn't mean its going to keep up with devices with fresh hardware. Its coming up on 2 years as it is, which means a lot when there's new, better hardware coming out every ~6 months.
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dude dont be a ****ing noob, its not the "core" that matthers.
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dude dont be a ****ing noob, its not the "core" that matthers.
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Thats a bit of a hostile response, don't you think?
And if by "core," you're referring to the SoC, yeah it kinda does matter. The tegra 2 is a tad outdated, its architecture being a big part of it (A9). The Tegra 3 was a nice upgrade on Nvidia's part, with the Samsung Exynos 5 being even better than that. I'm sure someone with even more technical expertise could explain more in detail on the differences, but the architecture itself is a good indicator.
Now on to personal experience. I've put my Xoom alongside a Nexus 7 and my Galaxy Nexus, all running 4.1.2 and yeah, the Xoom is noticeably slower. I can't wait to see the Nexus 10's performance in person. No one here is saying the Xoom is **** or slow or whatever. But it is, gasp, slower than devices with hardware that is fresh and not 2 years old. Newer technology is better, who knew?
So yeah...no offense but given the delightful way you went about disagreeing with me, I'd say you were projecting just a tad.
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That being said, if you look back to ICS, the 4.0.1 code dropped... and no Xoom support. Then the 4.0.2 code dropped... and no Xoom support. It wasn't until 4.0.3 that the Xoom gained AOSP support. I wouldn't be suprised to see the Xoom supported in a 4.2.2 (or later) release. The Nexus 4 isn't even supported in AOSP yet, for goodness' sakes! It will probably be someone's 20% time project and it will happen eventually.
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The difference with those instances and now is that the Xoom was projected to get all of those, it just took a bit of time for it to hit AOSP. According to the google groups statement, the Xoom is slated to stay on 4.1.2 (I forget the actual quote). Now of course, that could mean, as you say, that it might just be a while for it to hit AOSP, but I think that's being a bit hopeful. Hopefully we'll get an official word on it soon but I think thats about it, at least with regards to AOSP.
And honestly, the Xoom had 18+ months of official support. For those that remember, 18 months was what Google wanted manufacturers under the Android Update Alliance to go by for supporting devices. So they've met their own target and then some with regards to both the Xoom and the Nexus S.
It would be nice for the Xoom to have 4.2 support, but even if it doesn't happen, its been a fabulous 2 years, right? Because I think it has
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It would be nice for the Xoom to have 4.2 support, but even if it doesn't happen, its been a fabulous 2 years, right? Because I think it has
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It has been a fabulous 2 years, we'll still get 4.2 support, just unofficially
AOSP not supporting Xoom
No a very smart move by Google, me thinks, in not supporting Xoom after 4.1.2 ( Bless the custom mod gurus!!!). I know in my case I am going Windows Surface. Heres why, I just updated my 6 year old notebook to W8, and it flies.. new lease on life. If Google think I am buying a new tablet every 2 years, Stop the train, we have arrived at looney (google) central!!!!. Long live the custom rom(ers)
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No a very smart move by Google, me thinks, in not supporting Xoom after 4.1.2 ( Bless the custom mod gurus!!!). I know in my case I am going Windows Surface. Heres why, I just updated my 6 year old notebook to W8, and it flies.. new lease on life. If Google think I am buying a new tablet every 2 years, Stop the train, we have arrived at looney (google) central!!!!. Long live the custom rom(ers)
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The thing is, 2 years is actually...kind of a lot relative to the other first gen 10" tablets. The galaxy tab 10.1 took forever to get ICS and was put at EOL after that (back in June/July I think). Asus has handled the Transformer series pretty well; the OG Transformer received a timely ICS update and I believe was updated to 4.1, not sure if they're going past that. And finally the Acer A500 I think met a similar fate as the Galaxy tab, ending with 4.0.
So that puts the Xoom at one of 2 of the 4 Honeycomb tablets circa 2011 (were there any other notables?) that made it all the way to 4.1. Not too shabby.
Not shabby at all. A shame though that the reason for not supporting is a time limit instead of a hardware thing.
Phones changed a lot since nexus one to ICS
Not much changed hardware wise since Xoom and now IMO
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As I type, somebody is building 4.2 for the G1. Look, we can take anything aosp throws at us and make it work on Xoom, to one degree or another. It becomes a matter of performance. At some point, a previous aosp build will just be better for Xoom than the newest build.
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As I type, somebody is building 4.2 for the G1. Look, we can take anything aosp throws at us and make it work on Xoom, to one degree or another. It becomes a matter of performance. At some point, a previous aosp build will just be better for Xoom than the newest build.
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So does this meanTeam Eos is finished with rom support for the Xoom?
Just found in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1997434 that the system partition on the Xoom is rather small-could this be the reason that Xoom fell from AOSP support and didn't get all of the JB features?
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So does this meanTeam Eos is finished with rom support for the Xoom?
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For all of us who have the new Nexus 7 "Flo" or "2013", we wait the output of the Factory and Binaries Images for our device.
But after the latest news, we are not sure to have these images.
Look this news from Androidpolice:
Read more, click to =>Legal Issues With Qualcomm May Prevent Factory Images For New Nexus 7 ('Flo') From Ever Being Published, JBQ Strongly Implies
ROM developers and Android tinkering enthusiasts alike have probably noticed at this point that the new iteration of the Nexus 7, unveiled two weeks ago, does not yet have factory images or driver binaries posted on the appropriate Google Developers page. A similar issue plagued the Nexus 4 in its early days, though eventually images were posted. At the time, legal issues were speculated as a possible reason for the delay, and Android build maintainer JBQ - largely responsible for the images / binaries - said only this in response: "I can't comment."
With the new Nexus 7, JBQ has not outright said that legal problems with Qualcomm are preventing the factory images (and possibly the driver binaries) from being published, but a quick look at the relevant evidence makes it pretty duh-obvious that's what's going on. A week after the new Nexus 7's announcement, JBQ tweeted the following:
Jean-Baptiste Queru @jbqueru
That feeling when lawyers sabotage the launch you spent 6 months working on? I haz it. Sad sad sad sad sad sad.
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A few days later, on August 5th:
Jean-Baptiste Queru @jbqueru
I don't want to go to work tomorrow. I don't want to be doing that job any more.
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Those tweets alone aren't enough to be definitively linked to the Nexus 7's image situation, but JBQ's comments on the Android building group regarding the situation pretty much seal the deal. When asked why the new Nexus 7 images were not available, JBQ replied as follows (consolidated for simplicity):
When will flo get factory images?
JBQ: No ETA, and I don't know if they'll ever be available at all.
What is the reason for this?
JBQ: Same as http://www.droid-life.com/2012/12/13/jbq-on-pulled-nexus-4-factory-images-i-cant-comment-on-that/
JBQ: You'll also note that Google never distributed factory images for Nexus One.
Just to clarify: we're talking both factory images and proprietary binaries here, right?
JBQ: Lemme try to figure out how much more I'm allowed to say on that matter.
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It's that second-to-last comment which points the [middle] finger at Qualcomm. And it's pretty easy to figure out why, looking at the chipset supplier for each Nexus device.
Nexus One: Qualcomm
Nexus S: Samsung
Galaxy Nexus: TI
XOOM: Tegra
Nexus 7: Tegra
Nexus 4: Qualcomm
Nexus 10: Samsung
Nexus Q: TI
Nexus 7 (2013):Qualcomm
All three Qualcomm-powered Nexus devices have had issues related to publishing factory images and binaries.
(Note: HTC did publish factory images for the Nexus One, but Google did not.)
What's the legal issue?
Who knows. Qualcomm is notoriously protective of its technology, having gone so far as to form a separate company devoted to R&D and the guarding of its intellectual property. It really could be anything. Maybe, eventually, things will work out like they did on the Nexus 4 and the images / binaries will be published, but JBQ isn't exactly sounding optimistic. We'll update this piece as we learn more.
I don't really care if they give me all the factory images, but at least give me the initial factory image. I can always apply the OTAs to get the rest if I really want to.
It is annoying they are having trouble releasing anything.
samething happen with the nexus4 i think we will see the images pretty soon
So without the images is it possible to brick the device or can you pull all of the items needed off of a working nexus?
You can pull the recovery, kernel, system for sure (and it has been done). I'm not sure about the bootloader and radio.
So most of the "semi-bricks" which aren't really bricks at all can be resolved.
It is just nice to have something you know for sure is bit for bit the factory image.
I used the system.img on day one, wasn't sure about radio's and such.
And it appears JBQ is resigning.
This is horrible news. Google screwed up if they didn't demand the rights to release binaries as part of the deal to use Qualcomm chips.
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My ONLY complaint about the '13 N7 has been that I wish it had the Tegra 4 in it instead. Guess that has become an even bigger importance than I originally thought!!!
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Sad about JBQ, sad about flo
I don't have the nexus 7 2013 (damn you Google for not having a UK launch yet) but this is disgraceful. Qualcomm need s to clean up their act and stop being so protective. Its has caused problems and lost one of the android communities best know figures.
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This sucks. In my opinion Google should have learned their lesson and never gone with Qualcomm in the first place.
I've seen at least one tool here on the forum which will return a Nexus 7 to stock, but I haven't seen any plain system images. Just out of curiosity, does a stock jss15j system image and recovery image exist anywhere on the forum?
Feel free to bombard Qualcomm here:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/+QualcommDeveloper/posts
it's a deal breaker for me, until this is changed I'm not getting a Nexus 7 2013, it's just pointless for me.
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it's a deal breaker for me, until this is changed I'm not getting a Nexus 7 2013, it's just pointless for me.
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This stopped me dead in my tracks as well.
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This stopped me dead in my tracks as well.
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Im not gonna lie... Its a really amazing tablet stock even... It doesnt surprise me one bit that the images arent/wont be released though. Probably verizons evildoers
Just when I was planning on buying the nexus 7 tomorrow...
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I've seen at least one tool here on the forum which will return a Nexus 7 to stock, but I haven't seen any plain system images. Just out of curiosity, does a stock jss15j system image and recovery image exist anywhere on the forum?
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There are pulled images contained in those restore tools. I don't know if they are JWR66N or JSS15J. At least one of the pulled images is pre-rooted so it isn't pure stock.
SON OF A ****, GOD ****, *** HOLES. This is disappointing news. Having the factory images was a big reason I like the Nexus so much in the first place
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I've always had factory images from Samsung and HTC, just not stock android images (until recent pure android models)
Without factory images, Google is actually providing less than other manufacturers.
I guess the reason HTC was able to get out images on earlier Nexus models where it was also troublesome to release was they were probably willing to agree to some term with Qualcomm that the lawyers at Google are having issue with.
Looking at some other forums I noticed that OmniROM is a more used in nexus 5 or nexus 4 forums.. But actually something like multi windows would be awesomely great on our n7..
I've got the feeling that the development of n7 is quite dead..
Is this just a felling of mine?
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Looking at some other forums I noticed that OmniROM is a more used in nexus 5 or nexus 4 forums.. But actually something like multi windows would be awesomely great on our n7..
I've got the feeling that the development of n7 is quite dead..
Is this just a felling of mine?
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You will ALWAYS have more development in phone forums than tablet forums. More phones are sold than tabs, just the nature of supply/demand. You also have to have some patience. 4.4 was just released & the full source isn't even available yet. Nobody is going to continue developing 4.3, so you have to wait for 4.4 to start rolling & then stabilizing a build is priority over implementing features. That said, it is open source & you are free to build whatever suits your needs. I used to do just that, but I have a real job (just like many of the devs) as a mechanical engineer which takes priority over everything, along with my other obligations.
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You will ALWAYS have more development in phone forums than tablet forums. More phones are sold than tabs, just the nature of supply/demand. You also have to have some patience. 4.4 was just released & the full source isn't even available yet. Nobody is going to continue developing 4.3, so you have to wait for 4.4 to start rolling & then stabilizing a build is priority over implementing features. That said, it is open source & you are free to build whatever suits your needs. I used to do just that, but I have a real job (just like many of the devs) as a mechanical engineer which takes priority over everything, along with my other obligations.
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You are right with that, for sure..
But this is one of the reasons why I bought N7 instead of others..because I was pretty sure that I would have more support.. but honestly this is making me upset... T_T
I'm a flashcoholic.. I need to flash something for my tab as I do with my N4..
I just would like Multi-Windows and Pie honestly... I wish I was able to build my own..
..Anyway you are surely right saying that is because of the "numbers" of tabs compared to the "numbers" of smartphones..
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/7...xus-7-is-reportedly-not-getting-android-m.htm
Just saw this, not sure if this news is reliable but that would kind of suck..
Far from credible. Honestly if it doesn't come from Google or Android Police don't beleve it. Actually don't even trust Google just AP.
Someone sent us a tip saying “goodbye Nexus 7, no Android M for you”, and they also said they are close to the Android M development...
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Thats the source lol.
I can see maybe the 2012 nexus 7 being dropped from M update.
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Would be bad if Google dropped support for a 1 1/2 yr old device (not looking at release date) . More fragmentation and might give Apple fanboys more to brag about .
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The nexus 7 2012 is fine but if google stops updating the 2013 version I'm gonna bust their asses my Xperia Z1 from 2013 even has a chance of getting M...
atm android 5.1.1 still sucks on my N7 so I hoped that M would fix my issues!
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vkk178 said:
Would be bad if Google dropped support for a 1 1/2 yr old device (not looking at release date) . More fragmentation and might give Apple fanboys more to brag about .
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They promised at least 18 months of updates after they stopped selling a device in the play store, iirc
Edit: here's the ap article, it looks like we might not get M
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...e-with-an-update-guarantee-for-nexus-devices/
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They promised at least 18 months of updates after they stopped selling a device in the play store, iirc
Edit: here's the ap article, it looks like we might not get M
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...e-with-an-update-guarantee-for-nexus-devices/
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Hmm ... Not sure if Andoid M classifes as a update or as patch . IMHO its both ,since 5.1 is sluggish and tad buggy .
No updates would be bad and it sucks . One might think why invest in a expensive Nexus device when updates are so short lived . Apple fanboys might have some thing to brag about .
I'm not very concerned. Even if Google doesn't give us the update, it probably won't be very long before CyanogenMod comes out with it. I'm willing to bet that this tablet continues to get community support for another couple of years.
Without a CM Flo or deb device maintainer I doubt CM based on Android M would appear officially for us. Maybe other ROMs that have flo maintainers/devs will bring Android M to our devices after making 5.1.1 Lollipop binaries and stuff compatible with M
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Hmm ... Not sure if Andoid M classifes as a update or as patch . IMHO its both ,since 5.1 is sluggish and tad buggy .
No updates would be bad and it sucks . One might think why invest in a expensive Nexus device when updates are so short lived . Apple fanboys might have some thing to brag about .
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The only thing keeping me on Android is the ability to root, secure my devices, and retain full control of the file system - you know, administer the device. This is slowly being taken away, and when it does, I will probably jump ship. Apple makes quality hardware, and iOS isn't awful. It just doesn't give you any easy methods to truly administer the device without jumping through hoops.
In a world where you are a guest on your own device regardless of OS, Apple will come out the winner.
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The only thing keeping me on Android is the ability to root, secure my devices, and retain full control of the file system - you know, administer the device. This is slowly being taken away, and when it does, I will probably jump ship. Apple makes quality hardware, and iOS isn't awful. It just doesn't give you any easy methods to truly administer the device without jumping through hoops.
In a world where you are a guest on your own device regardless of OS, Apple will come out the winner.
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Besides the point you mentioned , Android does have other benefits ... But I was talking more in terms of Nexus devices . If high end devices & Nexus devices (from the google stable) dont get updates for longer , it would be crappy .No point investing in an expensive Nexus device..
If they stopped selling the N7 2013 in October 2014, 18 months of updates would end April 2016 I think.
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Despite rumors circulating about the chance of official M for flo, I doubt that it will be left out. After all, Google recently announced monthly updates for a list of nexus devices that includes flo. Even if those updates came only in the form of patches for L, I'm sure unofficial support will be there. Even my old galaxy nexus has unofficially made it to the latest revision of lollipop...
I believe we will get it. It just turned 2 and its only like 3 month's older than the nexus 5. It'll be the last major update but it'll still get it. The 2 year guarantee is just that, a guarantee it doesn't mean they'll necessarily cut off devices at that point
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I believe we will get it. It just turned 2 and its only like 3 month's older than the nexus 5. It'll be the last major update but it'll still get it. The 2 year guarantee is just that, a guarantee it doesn't mean they'll necessarily cut off devices at that point
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Totally agree, 5.1.1 runs smooth on my N7 so I see no reason from a hardware perspective that the N7 shouldn't get M. I think it will be last release so lets hope its a good one.
When I bought my wife's 2013 Nexus 7, it was mid-2014 and I thought for sure it was my only chance of owning a Nexus device, living in the US. I bought it for me, but then I discovered I don't like tablets very much. Fortunately, my wife loves it, so I wiped it and made it hers.
From 4.2 to 4.3, 4.4, 5.0, and now 5.1, it's had four major updates. That's more than any Android phone I've owned has gotten. First got one, second got none, third one got three, fourth one got one so far. Samsung, Motorola, and Samsung again on US Cellular, and HTC on Verizon. All flagships but the first one. It seems to me that I really care about updates on my phones, but on the tablet, it doesn't matter. The tablet doesn't feel like a mission-critical device. It feels like a media device. Had the price gap not been so wide, I wonder if I shouldn't have just gotten an iPad. Not that the Nexus 7 is bad. I just found that a tablet didn't do anything for me. It's just a bigger screen.
If Google is going to cut Nexus updates off after just two years, that's better than a lot of OEM phones get. Though, I do wonder, why did the Nexus 4, released in 2012, get the M preview, but not flo, released in 2013? Or am I mistaken? Was the Nexus 4 abandoned as well?
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When I bought my wife's 2013 Nexus 7, it was mid-2014 and I thought for sure it was my only chance of owning a Nexus device, living in the US. I bought it for me, but then I discovered I don't like tablets very much. Fortunately, my wife loves it, so I wiped it and made it hers.
From 4.2 to 4.3, 4.4, 5.0, and now 5.1, it's had four major updates. That's more than any Android phone I've owned has gotten. First got one, second got none, third one got three, fourth one got one so far. Samsung, Motorola, and Samsung again on US Cellular, and HTC on Verizon. All flagships but the first one. It seems to me that I really care about updates on my phones, but on the tablet, it doesn't matter. The tablet doesn't feel like a mission-critical device. It feels like a media device. Had the price gap not been so wide, I wonder if I shouldn't have just gotten an iPad. Not that the Nexus 7 is bad. I just found that a tablet didn't do anything for me. It's just a bigger screen.
If Google is going to cut Nexus updates off after just two years, that's better than a lot of OEM phones get. Though, I do wonder, why did the Nexus 4, released in 2012, get the M preview, but not flo, released in 2013? Or am I mistaken? Was the Nexus 4 abandoned as well?
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M developer preview was available for the nexus 5,6 and 9, unfortunately the nexus 4 didn't make the cut, as you quite rightly said, it was released in 2012, which is a bit more than the two year update garuntee
I want marshmallow, any custom rom for flo?
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I want marshmallow, any custom rom for flo?
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Marshmallow hasn't been released so there is no AOSP Source made public from Google. ROMs will appear once Android 6.0 and it's Source Code is released (rumored by the end of this month)
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Just wanted to share this good news, Nexus 6 will be getting 7.1 in December, Google said this
At the final release of the Android 7.1.x platform, due in early December, we’ll roll out updates to the full lineup of supported devices — Nexus 6, 5X, 6P, 9, Player, Pixel C, and supported Android One devices — as well as Pixel and Pixel XL devices.
Yes, indeed! Here' the link
Also note:
"If you want to receive the Developer Preview automatically, visit Android Beta and enroll your device. If you previously enrolled a device and haven’t unenrolled, your device will receive the update. If you already enrolled but don’t want to receive the update, visit Android Beta to unenroll the device as soon as possible."
I'll be leaving my device in the beta program and watching for system updates...
Google says that the preview will start off supporting only the Nexus 5X, 6P, and the Pixel C. Other devices will be added to the preview as it progresses.
Haizz, my Shamu is not in the list of end Oct
Good news, even though (as I've said before) I doubt I'll see much difference.
Is there any news anywhere about the preview system images for sideloading? Will we actually have to wait for the final OTA?
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Good news, even though (as I've said before) I doubt I'll see much difference.
Is there any news anywhere about the preview system images for sideloading? Will we actually have to wait for the final OTA?
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That's what it looks like. No preview, just final 7.1 for us. That's fine for me.
It won't be a big deal, but there are a couple of nice features.
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Good news, even though (as I've said before) I doubt I'll see much difference.
Is there any news anywhere about the preview system images for sideloading? Will we actually have to wait for the final OTA?
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"Initially, we’ll offer the Developer Preview for Nexus 5X, Nexus 6P, and Pixel C devices, extending to other supported devices by the end of the preview."
I have a shockingly bad memory. Were the previews not provided as OTA images during the beta period? Duh... I'm old...
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I have a shockingly bad memory. Were the previews not provided as OTA images during the beta period? Duh... I'm old...
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As I remember it, they were, both as OTA-s, and full images on the beta site.
So you have a bad memory too...?
That would be ideal, but I shan't hold my breath. As I say so often, the differences I see from one version to the next are so minimal that the only change is in my head, not in the phone. Nevertheless, being on the bleeding edge is exciting. Maybe I should get out more...
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As I remember it, they were, both as OTA-s, and full images on the beta site.
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