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projectbutter makes the s3 amazing

I am really surprised at how amazing jelly bean really is on the s3, with ics it was fast and smooth already but now it blazes.
it is faster and smoother than my iphone 4s on ios6 and my wp7.5 hd7 of old which now belongs to my brothwe. it equals in smoothness that of my iPad 3 and in many ways is faster add depending on the app it generally opens them faster.
it is s real winner. battery life could be better but I'm more than happy at the moment and it was well worth the wait!

dodgebizkit said:
I am really surprised at how amazing jelly bean really is on the s3, with ics it was fast and smooth already but now it blazes.
it is faster and smoother than my iphone 4s on ios6 and my wp7.5 hd7 of old which now belongs to my brothwe. it equals in smoothness that of my iPad 3 and in many ways is faster add depending on the app it generally opens them faster.
it is s real winner. battery life could be better but I'm more than happy at the moment and it was well worth the wait!
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The official version is indeed better than the leaks we got earlier, and gives me hope that the later versions are going to be even better, not to mention 4.1.2 and 4.2.

dodgebizkit said:
I am really surprised at how amazing jelly bean really is on the s3, with ics it was fast and smooth already but now it blazes.
it is faster and smoother than my iphone 4s on ios6 and my wp7.5 hd7 of old which now belongs to my brothwe. it equals in smoothness that of my iPad 3 and in many ways is faster add depending on the app it generally opens them faster.
it is s real winner. battery life could be better but I'm more than happy at the moment and it was well worth the wait!
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Errrr... No, it's not great. If you knew more about the phone you would know it's not as great as on the galaxy nexus. It's easy worst.

Sensamic said:
Errrr... No, it's not great. If you knew more about the phone you would know it's not as great as on the galaxy nexus. It's easy worst.
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I have both. I think that the SGS3 was already faster on ICS than the gnexus on JB. The gnexus is slower to load apps and lag a lot on places like the widgets menu.

I can only recommend Paranoid Android on the S3, I'm simply amazed by this ROM...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1745003

Sensamic said:
Errrr... No, it's not great. If you knew more about the phone you would know it's not as great as on the galaxy nexus. It's easy worst.
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That's your opinion. I've tried both, and the S3 is faster, and better imo.

Certainly on AOSP it is without a doubt, ill always choose AOSP first and foremost now there can be no going back to Sammy ROM's only as a secondary ROM, i can live without FM Radio (i always use Tune in Radio PRO anyway much better highly recommended app) and other small things you don't get IN AOSP the good far outweighs the bad.

I have to agree Project Butter is a lot better than in the leaks, but there is optimization to do, like the widgets draw, which still lags until it is fully pulled into memory.
I can't wait to see what the updates have to offer.

And would u mind telling us how u managed with the freaky lag we get when we try to open phone dialer after it being closed 4 a while? Why do they call it a phone when the thng it does the worst is opening the phone app!

Just be thankful you don't have the WiFi issue that it gave me.
Beforehand, no problem connecting to the WiFi.
Now, I have had to disabled "power saving mode" in the menu *#0011#, because whereas previously on ICS, it would connect if the WiFi got dropped (say, it went to sleep, or I disabled it), unless I do this, if it gets dropped, it would not reconnect until I reset the phone.
Very, very annoying.
I've raised the Issue with Samsung.
And it's not just me with the issue.

supernexus build 5 is a winner

russeini said:
And would u mind telling us how u managed with the freaky lag we get when we try to open phone dialer after it being closed 4 a while? Why do they call it a phone when the thng it does the worst is opening the phone app!
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while on ics i used ex dialer, on JB it still loads slowish but it takes 1 sec rather than 4 for me and im fine with that so i stopped using ex dialer for now.

I prefer AOSP rom too but you will miss a lot of s3 features. That's the reason I stick to stock.
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hero000 said:
I prefer AOSP rom too but you will miss a lot of s3 features. That's the reason I stick to stock.
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I completely agree i owned various devices and always used Asop or akop. But on this phone, if you use asop or akop you miss the features on the phone. So i tend to stick to stock all the time simply because i need most of the features.

hero000 said:
I prefer AOSP rom too but you will miss a lot of s3 features. That's the reason I stick to stock.
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I always switch between Sammy and AOSP for this reason but now with dual-boot I have the best of both world.
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oliseo said:
Just be thankful you don't have the WiFi issue that it gave me.
Beforehand, no problem connecting to the WiFi.
Now, I have had to disabled "power saving mode" in the menu *#0011#, because whereas previously on ICS, it would connect if the WiFi got dropped (say, it went to sleep, or I disabled it), unless I do this, if it gets dropped, it would not reconnect until I reset the phone.
Very, very annoying.
I've raised the Issue with Samsung.
And it's not just me with the issue.
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No need to go to Samsung, you are on XDA. All the experts are here. I'm not an expert but I would say to just flash another ROM or Modem.

Sensamic said:
Errrr... No, it's not great. If you knew more about the phone you would know it's not as great as on the galaxy nexus. It's easy worst.
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He he he silly dual-core
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Sensamic said:
Errrr... No, it's not great. If you knew more about the phone you would know it's not as great as on the galaxy nexus. It's easy worst.
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I don't agree I think it's on par at the least...
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Wow! Google should have never brought project butter up in the first place. Now we have some weirdos having a weird placebo effect thinking that the GS3 firmware does not incorporate PB when it would be absolutely retarded and more difficult for Samsung to take it out of the source code and add in half butter. That is like the most hilarious thing I have ever heard. No developer would rewrite PB to operate at half.
There is a possibility that touchwiz animations do not look as smooth as AOSP animations to some eyes but I highly HIGHLY doubt it that they would change the genetic code. lol
People need to stop tripping or otherwise Google is not going to even bring up any transition improvements to prevent this crap from happening to their OEMs that use Android skins.

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And your post seems like one from a fanboy who tries to hide the reality.
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I had a feeling your posts were going this way. Project butter does work on the device but its other 'bugs' that hinder its operation and perception
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scoffyburito said:
I had a feeling your posts were going this way. Project butter does work on the device but its other 'bugs' that hinder its operation and perception
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Will I still get all the goodies like 60 fps and other stuff on nova launcher instead of touchwiz?

[Q] ATT S4, Feels choppy ?

I'm not sure if there is too much crap in the default kernel, or if the cpu is being underclocked somewhere. But this 'feels' choppier to me then the S3 ever did which should not be the case. I can be in facebook and just scrolling along and poof .5 sec lag then it jumps ahead of where I wanted to go, and I am seeing this all over. Even in the play store installing apps. Suggestions ?

trichert said:
I'm not sure if there is too much crap in the default kernel, or if the cpu is being underclocked somewhere. But this 'feels' choppier to me then the S3 ever did which should not be the case. I can be in facebook and just scrolling along and poof .5 sec lag then it jumps ahead of where I wanted to go, and I am seeing this all over. Even in the play store installing apps. Suggestions ?
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Yeah..I noticed it too. Especially after I put all my apps on it.

plmiller0905 said:
Yeah..I noticed it too. Especially after I put all my apps on it.
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All the more reason we need this accursed bootloader unlocked

Yeah my note 2 feels smoother at stock BUT the S4 is smoother than my note 2 with any custom rom. Very odd.
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yes i notice this very much. i have rooted mine as per the motosomething posted on the forum and disabled most services in titanium backup but still, there is a bit of studder/lag. its not 100% smooth as i was expecting out of a phone with a 1.9GHZ quad core processor and 2gb ddr3 ram!!!

TechSilver13 said:
Yeah my note 2 feels smoother at stock BUT the S4 is smoother than my note 2 with any custom rom. Very odd.
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Note 2 stock uses full potential of exynos. Custom Roms doesnt since exynos source not released
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And that sucks it kindof got me rethinking about purchasing this at the moment with all these lag threads everywhere

The htc one is smoother but it has zero features. I still like the s4 with or without lag.
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Guys just give it a minute. They could release an OTA update that fixes it. Remember it's 4.2.x not all apps are meant for it.
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Yeah the phone feels a bit laggy after I installed all my apps and signed into my account.
I was going to post this but you seedy beat me to it
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Tell me about it my balls are itching for a release of a software upgrade.
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The thing about an update is samsung NEVER releases updates si I doubt itll happen.
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I personally want to thank all of the Guinea Pigs for helping to sort through all of the early release issues so mine will be a much better experience when I finally buy it.

I'm sure its do to apps not being optimized for it yet. I looked at what was using all of my memory and there was my good ole xda premium app at the top of the list. Lol. My one I had felt faster but I say give it time. I remember my note 2 had a couple updates within the first month or two. I could care less BC I live this phone.
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Turn on power savings and see if it is snappier. It feels to me like it is. Very odd but maybe its just me.
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Thank God it's not just me. I just exchanged the One that I bought on the 23rd for the S4 today and noticed a bunch of lag. Kind of upsetting. All the reviews I watched there was no lag at all. The One and the S4 have the same chip but the One is clocked at 1.7. Doesn't make any sense that it's snappier than the S4. I REALLY hope I don't regret my decision because the One I had was very good quality control wise..

I've noticed a bit of a slow down when unlocking from the lock screen and opening the app drawer. Nothing major but pretty annoying. The One I traded in today had nothing like that. Oh well.
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I also experience lag on my gs4. Not terrible, but my gs3 is faster in everyday use.

It's gotta be able to be fixed through an update right? If it's happening to all of us..

My international exynos I9500 has a bunch of lag also so don't feel bad guys. My guess is that it has to do with the 4.2 Jellybean. That version is pretty much optimized for the Nexus 4 (which I had) and had almost zero lag. That was probably the snappiest android device I've used along with the Note 2.
The HTC One is still on 4.1 so my guess once it's updated to 4.2 it will lag just the same until the overlays are optimized for it (Sense and TW).
In this meantime it's kinda bullsh1t that a phone with this much power still has more lag than a prior gen Galaxy S3.

I use a note 2 and I see the lag in the s4. A new "flagship" device shouldn't have this much lag on it even with all the bloat... The s3 didn't even lag like this which is kinda sad.

[Q] Stock Android with couple of select Samsung apps, dream come true

Sorry, this is not a statement rather a wish.
Can anyone guide us noobs and un-initiated S4 owners on how to get stock android on the device and the best samsung apps like the dual camera shot etc working?
I am not a fan of the lag at all. I hate that samsung phones are so sluggish despite their claims of the fastest processors around.
NOTHING BEATS THE NEXUS 4 HANDS DOWN..
Perhaps we can achieve close to the Nexus 4 benchmarks with getting the S4 down to the bare minimum?
Any thoughts?

alitech said:
Sorry, this is not a statement rather a wish.
Can anyone guide us noobs and un-initiated S4 owners on how to get stock android on the device and the best samsung apps like the dual camera shot etc working?
I am not a fan of the lag at all. I hate that samsung phones are so sluggish despite their claims of the fastest processors around.
NOTHING BEATS THE NEXUS 4 HANDS DOWN..
Perhaps we can achieve close to the Nexus 4 benchmarks with getting the S4 down to the bare minimum?
Any thoughts?
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Benchmarks dont mean jack. If your after numbers go get a Nexus 4. Either use AOSP or a very refined TouchWiz ROM. Also, I must be the only person here in XDA that doesn't have a "laggy" Galaxy S4. My "last year" Note II doesn't even lag so I should see no problem with yours. Maybe its ther user than the phone? Turn S Voice off and make the animation scales all at 0.5x.
AOSP with Samsung wont go. It requires the Samsung framework
~ Taylor_Swift
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Taylor_Swift said:
Benchmarks dont mean jack. If your after numbers go get a Nexus 4. Either use AOSP or a very refined TouchWiz ROM. Also, I must be the only person here in XDA that doesn't have a "laggy" Galaxy S4. My "last year" Note II doesn't even lag so I should see no problem with yours. Maybe its ther user than the phone? Turn S Voice off and make the animation scales all at 0.5x.
AOSP with Samsung wont go. It requires the Samsung framework
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I'd like to keep the S4 thanks. The Nexus 4 benchmarks is not what I am after. What I am after is a fast OS which does not lag when moving from screen to screen or doing just the basic functions like going to the call or text app. Have you seen the time it takes to render the photos that the phone itself has taken?
Hit the home button, there is always a half a second lag no matter what.
All animations and S Voice turned off.
Yes, it seems like its the user not the phone in your case too. Have you ever owned a Nexus 4?

alitech said:
I'd like to keep the S4 thanks. The Nexus 4 benchmarks is not what I am after. What I am after is a fast OS which does not lag when moving from screen to screen or down just the basic function.
Hit the hit button, there is always a half a second lag no matter what.
All animations and S Voice turned off.
Yes, it is the user not the phone in your case!
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Screenshot your animation scales . Im having trouble believing if S Voice and the scales are all about 0.5x lol.
Erm, Im a dev for the Nexus 4. So yeah, I have.
Im running stock deodexed with root. Working well and fast
~ Taylor_Swift
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Taylor_Swift said:
Screenshot your animation scales . Im having trouble believing if S Voice and the scales are all about 0.5x lol.
Erm, Im a dev for the Nexus 4. So yeah, I have.
Im running stock deodexed with root. Working well and fast
~ Taylor_Swift
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It is set at 0.5x.
Now what?

All questions belong in the Q&A section.
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Taylor_Swift said:
Benchmarks dont mean jack. If your after numbers go get a Nexus 4. Either use AOSP or a very refined TouchWiz ROM. Also, I must be the only person here in XDA that doesn't have a "laggy" Galaxy S4. My "last year" Note II doesn't even lag so I should see no problem with yours. Maybe its ther user than the phone? Turn S Voice off and make the animation scales all at 0.5x.
AOSP with Samsung wont go. It requires the Samsung framework
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No lag for me too. Stock Rom. I normally root and start messing as soon as I get a phone but just ha dot felt the need so far, and I got it on launch day!
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I also have no lag at all.
I have the device rooted, but I did not remove anything, actually.

I am quite surprised by the responses here.
Since no one has disputed the liquidity and smoothness of the Nexus 4, let me re-phrase my question.
How can we get the S4 to be as fast as the Nexus 4?
I would like to keep the S4 but I want to be as fast as the Nexus 4.
1. Fast fluid response to swiping home sceen
2. no lag when you press apps icon
3. no lag on swiping apps
4. no lag when you press home button
5. no lag in rendering photos in gallery (when you swipe to a new picture, it is blurry for a second or 2 while it renders and then shows full resolution)
6. no lag in phone and messaging apps
All animation fixes and S_voice already done but lag still experienced.
Please advise.

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Benchmarks dont mean jack. If your after numbers go get a Nexus 4.
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Why would he do that when the S4 has significantly higher results in all benchmarks?

Im confused as well I am sorry I do not understand why you would want the S4 to be like the Nexus when the S4 has no issues I have 3 S4s they are all smooth with no lag and run fast between screens going on the web all is well here..........I haven't even rooted my phone yet lol

jprocket45 said:
Im confused as well I am sorry I do not understand why you would want the S4 to be like the Nexus when the S4 has no issues I have 3 S4s they are all smooth with no lag and run fast between screens going on the web all is well here..........I haven't even rooted my phone yet lol
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I think you fail to realise that there is a significant lag in all S4s, you are immune to it because you don't know any better.
Can someone respond to the points I have made above ?

Improvments after 4.3 update (i9505)

Hello!
What about camera after update ?
Does it focus faster?
For me, this phone's camera and touchwiz lags are the reasons to keep nexus 4 insted of using sgs 4.
Thank you
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almost nothing changes!!
i tried it. but after see it's slow as always i installed a non-TW rom.

Me too... I play a lot with my sgs4 but every time I hold my nexus 4 in the hands I see how fast it is... its like the sgs is a year behind...
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hifonicy said:
Me too... I play a lot with my sgs4 but every time I hold my nexus 4 in the hands I see how fast it is... its like the sgs is a year behind...
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Yeah. But you should try Google edition I9505 rom. It is nearly as smooth as my Nexus 4. Just a bit slower. Way smoother than CM and Sammy's rom.

Samsung should really scrap touchwiz.its really horrible

nothing really changed, i bet it was just an update to destroy peoples root access.

From M8 to Note 4 not so great

Note 4 is a great phone but coming from M8 and sense seems that the Note 4 is very laggy.
Not sure if it is 805 chipset cannot handle the resolution just like G3 801 chipset couldn't handle it, but Note 4 is very laggy. Might be the bloware withing touchwiz, but loading time is slow and alot of native app (app store, facebook etc) have a hard time loading and smooth scrooling.
Yes i do have the latest update and hoping this is only software related which can be fix with an update.

This lag reporting is wierd. I've only rooted, have installed a ton of crap, froze nothing and I've had 0 lag yet.
Wonder why some are getting it
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It really sucks that so many people are reporting lag, very unfortunate. I myself haven't experienced any but a lot of users are.
I'm just waiting for an AOSP rom. That should have absolutely no lag, especially with this processor.

devynbf said:
It really sucks that so many people are reporting lag, very unfortunate. I myself haven't experienced any but a lot of users are.
I'm just waiting for an AOSP rom. That should have absolutely no lag, especially with this processor.
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Yes. I can imagine a trim rom absolutely blazing on this beast
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eduardmc said:
Note 4 is a great phone but coming from M8 and sense seems that the Note 4 is very laggy.
Not sure if it is 805 chipset cannot handle the resolution just like G3 801 chipset couldn't handle it, but Note 4 is very laggy. Might be the bloware withing touchwiz, but loading time is slow and alot of native app (app store, facebook etc) have a hard time loading and smooth scrooling.
Yes i do have the latest update and hoping this is only software related which can be fix with an update.
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I went from the M8 to the S5 and never experienced any lag, I wonder why the NOTE 4 would produce lag. Try factory resetting?

Absolutely zero lag. Even a before the update. But then again I don't consider an app taking 2 10ths of a second to open "lag". Lag to me is windows 98 on a 86 computer.

if you think that your phone is "laggy", then try nova launcher instead of the stock touchwiz..if its still "laggy" something is wrong with your phone, or your expectations are too high

I had lag too and downloaded seeder from playstore lag is gone for me
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Absolutely no lag
NOTE 4

devynbf said:
It really sucks that so many people are reporting lag, very unfortunate. I myself haven't experienced any but a lot of users are.
I'm just waiting for an AOSP rom. That should have absolutely no lag, especially with this processor.
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sprintuser1977 said:
Yes. I can imagine a trim rom absolutely blazing on this beast
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While I personally live AOSP roms, installing AOSP on a note device defeats the purpose of the note.

eduardmc said:
Note 4 is a great phone but coming from M8 and sense seems that the Note 4 is very laggy.
Not sure if it is 805 chipset cannot handle the resolution just like G3 801 chipset couldn't handle it, but Note 4 is very laggy. Might be the bloware withing touchwiz, but loading time is slow and alot of native app (app store, facebook etc) have a hard time loading and smooth scrooling.
Yes i do have the latest update and hoping this is only software related which can be fix with an update.
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I have the LG G3 and the Note 4. The LG G3 isn't that bad, but the Note 4 is perfectly smooth. About the only thing that will lag on LG G3 is my SwiftKey. Not an issue at all on the Note 4.
With the Note 4 just being released, a lot of lag the Note 4 is being blamed for could possibly be attributed to the initial setups and synchronizing going on in the background. The phone is actually very fast.

I haven't seen any lag other then when going to recent apps, which would lag on the g3.

eduardmc said:
Note 4 is a great phone but coming from M8 and sense seems that the Note 4 is very laggy.
Not sure if it is 805 chipset cannot handle the resolution just like G3 801 chipset couldn't handle it, but Note 4 is very laggy. Might be the bloware withing touchwiz, but loading time is slow and alot of native app (app store, facebook etc) have a hard time loading and smooth scrooling.
Yes i do have the latest update and hoping this is only software related which can be fix with an update.
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Change the animtion duration in developers options will boost things a little . Just depend the lag you are descibing ? I expected TW to have a little lag but its nothing that rooting and and debloating a bit cant fix .

Can someone try Google Now Launcher and see how that feels on the device? Anyone also able to compare their experience to a Nexus 5? I have the G3 and it is not nearly as smooth. Lag is not very prevalent, but it's there and noticeable for me... nothing like the Nexus 5.

wase4711 said:
if you think that your phone is "laggy", then try nova launcher instead of the stock touchwiz..if its still "laggy" something is wrong with your phone, or your expectations are too high
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Yes touchwiz is laggy in my end compare to M8 buttersmooth sense. I'm using nova which is smooth. STILL opening application and load time M8 is FASTER as of now, a lot of application stutter and lag when scrolling. If you are coming from a note 3 or LG G3 might not notice a difference, but if you are coming from a M8 or even a nexus 5 you will see and differences.

Google now Is perfect for me and my launcher of choice is Next.
I have next on max Settings and still smooth
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m3lover1 said:
While I personally live AOSP roms, installing AOSP on a note device defeats the purpose of the note.
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No I got it. I am opposite and don't like Aosp too much, just imagining how fast it would be.
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done12many2 said:
I have the LG G3 and the Note 4. The LG G3 isn't that bad, but the Note 4 is perfectly smooth. About the only thing that will lag on LG G3 is my SwiftKey. Not an issue at all on the Note 4.
With the Note 4 just being released, a lot of lag the Note 4 is being blamed for could possibly be attributed to the initial setups and synchronizing going on in the background. The phone is actually very fast.
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The only thing that has lagged for me is Swype! I may have to change to something else, I'm fed up with it! Everything else is smooth as butter. Unrooted as of yet.

Smooth as butter for me....let the initial setup do its job and check your sync settings. ..also disable auto update in playstore.....maybe that's why some have seen pseudo lag.

My Note 4 is also buttery Smooth

My n4 is as well.
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