Has anyone else been experiencing GPS not holding lock or not locking at all? There are tons of people having the problem in the Google groups.... Surprising to not see more about it here..... Let's get the word out if you do.... Mine will not keep a lock no matter what.... Many resets and other nonsense.... It will sometimes lock but loose it on the move or just drop the lock without moving....
Here are some of the fixes that have been tried / tested:
resetting back to stock
removing google services
downgrading maps
changing settings for WIFI
user data wipe
clear cache
Some of those may temporarily fix it, but any sort of long term use the issue always comes back.
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/mobile/prfUDZA7M2s[1-25-false]
http://www.phonearena.com/news/New-G...oblems_id46225
http://www.geeky-gadgets.com/new-nex...ms-09-08-2013/
http://www.slashgear.com/nexus-7-tab...lems-09293337/
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-575...by-gps-glitch/
^ the google group where it's been reported by hundreds of people.
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Read about this somewhere on here. Can't figure out how to search a specific forum on this app though so I can't find it.
I think the guy fixed his problem but I don't remember how. Sorry
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yeah, there are been several people that "claim" to have fixed it but... it's not really fixed. there have been many different "solutions" thrown around over in the groups but, again none of them worked long term. it might work for a little while, but not for very long. anyone that has a N7 i suggest you test it out.... Try bringing up maps, cache the offline map and try to use the GPS to navigate somewhere.... It will drop off everytime.
Google is going to have to release a patch, that is going to be the only fix!!
Some of the fixes that have been tried are:
resetting back to stock
removing google services
downgrading maps
changing settings for WIFI
user data wipe
clear cache
Some of those may temporarily fix it, but any sort of long term use the issue always comes back.
so... what's the deal here. I don't see how more people aren't having this problem with the responses on the google site. have people been successful using it? or do u not use it at all anyway? or is it because you have a ROM that it works on? please let me know.
My temporary solution (as suggested by others) is to ONLY allow 1 app which may access GPS.
So I disabled Earth, Maps, GPS Tester (some widgets may use GPS too) ... only leave Sygic navigator. I've navigated a few long drives without issue. Re-enable those apps will bring back troubles.
This works with different ROMs, so it's not a ROM problem.
Hopefully Google will have a fix soon.
yeah, that only seems to work for a short period of time too! thanks though!
well, at least it's out in the open now and it will force googles hand!
http://www.phonearena.com/news/New-Google-Nexus-7-having-GPS-problems_id46225
http://www.geeky-gadgets.com/new-nexus-7-suffering-from-gps-problems-09-08-2013/
http://www.slashgear.com/nexus-7-tablet-owners-reporting-gps-problems-09293337/
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57597753-94/new-nexus-7-plagued-by-gps-glitch/
I haven't touched Google services, just simply disabled (GPS-accessing) apps such as Maps, Earth, GPS Tester.
I only left one app (Sygic) on my Tab. The last few days, I've had no issue with GPS navigation. Everytime I've tried,
I got GPS locks within a few seconds. I've done a few drives (mostly under 1-hr) and everything is normal and accurate.
I've not seen it fail yet.
It isn't 'failing' at start, necessarily. It won't keep lock after stopping and starting.
Can you enter address. navigate to the address. Stop and them do it again?
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It isn't 'failing' at start, necessarily. It won't keep lock after stopping and starting.
Can you enter address. navigate to the address. Stop and them do it again?
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Like going to work ... going to lunch .. going home .. I fired up the app fresh (I clear recent apps often)
haha.. I had quite a few struggles since day one, so I know how to make it fail.
I can start-close/stop-restart Sygic multiple times without failing. But if I re-enable those (GPS) apps and
switch between them ---> GPS no-longer works.
I have never had a issue using Osmand GPS yesterday. Locked on quickly each time after device was put to sleep about 5 times in a moving car ( i was the passenger at the time).
joined the forum to say i'm having the same issue with GPS (and possibly compass). looks like google is aware so that is at least good.
bought the tablet to use in an in-dash car install. loved it until yesterday and today when i started doing more in car function testing. wanted to test the google maps app out out while driving but the compass oriented me cocked in the wrong direction and spun around like a dradle before gps lost me completely. for a bit i thought omg, maybe it's so cheap because they got rid of the GPS chip.
i have to say i hate the google maps application right now too. the old google navigation app was incredible for "chase view" which gave you. the new google maps app is supposed to integrate the nav feature but you must be on a specified route. it's terrible, going to search for the old APK.
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i have to say i hate the google maps application right now too. the old google navigation app was incredible for "chase view" which gave you. the new google maps app is supposed to integrate the nav feature but you must be on a specified route. it's terrible, going to search for the old APK.
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If you like the 3d view, tried Waze?
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If you like the 3d view, tried Waze?
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thanks! just downloaded and will try it out (once this gps issue gets fixed).
Suggestion to try by others.
"Go into settings, all apps, locate ‘network location’, clear cache, clear data, reboot and try using GPS again. Seen this behavior on another device where it didn’t like the backed up app data restored from the previous device."
NONE of the "fixes" are permanent. As soon as you start moving it loses your location, even if it hold it for an hour.... IT WILL eventually drop out again. All these "fixes" are a waste of time, i have done every single one posted in all teh forums they have talked about N7s. and it ALWAYS goes back to not working again.
it's just frustrating to have a brand new device that doesn't work properly, and then on top of it to do all these silly fixes and research for none of them to work either. bout to take it back and say forget it.
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NONE of the "fixes" are permanent. As soon as you start moving it loses your location, even if it hold it for an hour.... IT WILL eventually drop out again. All these "fixes" are a waste of time, i have done every single one posted in all teh forums they have talked about N7s. and it ALWAYS goes back to not working again.
it's just frustrating to have a brand new device that doesn't work properly, and then on top of it to do all these silly fixes and research for none of them to work either. bout to take it back and say forget it.
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In the official forum of Google, they are one person that use cyanogen whiteout problems.
Appears that there is a software problem.
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Useless!!!! I was out on the bike all day and this thing acted up all day. At one point it got stuck on the x after rebooting for no reason. I ended up using my SGSIII as a GPS. I guess I need an BT GPS. I know people say hey mine is working but I just can't believe it really is. Or mine sucks.
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Has Google commented at all?
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Last I looked into it, they said they were looking into it.
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I had bunch of FC and many other annoying bull with my phone and after many recommendations on doing reset, I finally did it and it looks like it fixed everything !
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I had bunch of FC and many other annoying bull with my phone and after many recommendations on doing reset, I finally did it and it looks like it fixed everything !
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This would be nice in the thread I made! Some people, like myself might not be convinced that a reset can fix a lot of problems (besides the GPS related ones) and need a little extra convincing.
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I had bunch of FC and many other annoying bull with my phone and after many recommendations on doing reset, I finally did it and it looks like it fixed everything !
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bro, I am not going to erase all my 70+ apps. the phone is super fast for me
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I had bunch of FC and many other annoying bull with my phone and after many recommendations on doing reset, I finally did it and it looks like it fixed everything !
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I've been contemplating on doing a full reset.
@kolyan, did you keep the stock GPS settings or did you change it out after the reset? I'm curious....
Can you list other improvements you've noticed?
All I can say about this is I wiped my phone to prep it for exchange tomorrow, since some were reporting success with different phones. I was having horrid gps issues. Navigate, pre-wipe was taking 5 minutes or more, before it locked and stopped searching for gps. When I tried it after the wipe, it took a few seconds. Not to be beaten so easily, I rebooted and tried again. It again worked quickly. I've been randomly checking all day and the longest it has taken is maybe 20 seconds. Pre-wipe, that never happened. There may be merit to this if it hasn't been tried. Don't know if it will work for everyone, but it certainly worked for me. At least for my gps issues (fingers crossed).
BTW, I had all my apps backed up (146, I just looked) and everything went back fine. Took a while for the restore, but it looks just as it did before the wipe. I never restore system settings, so I had to do it manually, but it was worth it.
Before anyone asks, my compass is still pooched...
Perhaps we should also realize that the bug with the compass might be caused by the app.
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Which app? Maps? Layar? Every compass app? When I get time I'll get something that spits out raw sensor data. It's dampening is way too much.
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I've been contemplating on doing a full reset.
@kolyan, did you keep the stock GPS settings or did you change it out after the reset? I'm curious....
Can you list other improvements you've noticed?
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so far GPS is stock, but i dont use it much so i dont know the best settings here
GUI was a bit slow (loading here, loading there), had some minor FC (like when adding picture to contact, had to do it from desktop, in phone i got FC), Engadget widget didnt work 100% (back button had to be double clicked, single click didnt work), in launcher all widgets kept reloading (LauncherPro fixed this, but after reset it work like a charm in stock launcher as well), also had multi-tasking issue and now its gone....
Just wondering, What did you use for backup/restore?
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Just wondering, What did you use for backup/restore?
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i used to use Titanium backup, but i noticed that some (not all) apps didnt work correctly when restored, so I prefer to do everything manually to make sure everything works
Titanium Backup for me. It took a long time to go back, but it all seemed to work well. I haven't found anything broken because of it yet. Before this phone I would get broken market links and I'd have to restore app data twice sometimes, but it seems to be working well so far.
Also, as far as the rest goes. I am getting less stalling, but it's still there. It also fixed an issue I picked up with Quadrant somewhere along the line where it would hang during the i/o test. Another strange one was if I had gps in use, I could put my phone to sleep by turning it 180 degrees a couple times. That went away.
Just noticed facebook won't sync after the reset... Not sure what that's about.
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Titanium Backup for me. It took a long time to go back, but it all seemed to work well. I haven't found anything broken because of it yet. Before this phone I would get broken market links and I'd have to restore app data twice sometimes, but it seems to be working well so far.
Also, as far as the rest goes. I am getting less stalling, but it's still there. It also fixed an issue I picked up with Quadrant somewhere along the line where it would hang during the i/o test. Another strange one was if I had gps in use, I could put my phone to sleep by turning it 180 degrees a couple times. That went away.
Just noticed facebook won't sync after the reset... Not sure what that's about.
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mine syned fine.
its all weird.....TI backup and reset things..... apps seem to work fine and then you notice some small stupid bug.....and after reset everything seems ok so far
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Which app? Maps? Layar? Every compass app? When I get time I'll get something that spits out raw sensor data. It's dampening is way too much.
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YES!!! today I noticed when using a different micro usb cable the computer could not find the phone maybe just maybe the configurations are different for these samsung phones. Just because the third party apps don't show an accurate reading doesn't mean they don't find you. I have had NO gps problems in ANY application, I listed somewhere else 6 different applications all worked fine and found me and lead me in the right direction.
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mine syned fine.
its all weird.....TI backup and reset things..... apps seem to work fine and then you notice some small stupid bug.....and after reset everything seems ok so far
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I agree with that, for sure. It seems after playing with Android for over a year, I think a lot has to do with data integrity. I've many times rebuilt by hand and installed all my bazillion apps by hand after a wipe and had it work fine. Backup, reset. It's worth a shot. Most of us are here to tinker and learn. Can't do that without some pain!
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YES!!! today I noticed when using a different micro usb cable the computer could not find the phone maybe just maybe the configurations are different for these samsung phones. Just because the third party apps don't show an accurate reading doesn't mean they don't find you. I have had NO gps problems in ANY application, I listed somewhere else 6 different applications all worked fine and found me and lead me in the right direction.
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Oh, I thought you were talking about my crack about the compass. It needs a fix. The only issue I have with that train of thought, is when you use the dialer code to get into the gps settings and run the gps test in there, it doesn't care what the data stream looks like for the most part. It's looking directly at the gps/driver for it's info. It locks when it locks. I don't know, it's making my brain hurt.
When you say Reset are you talking a wipe from recovery or a Reset from inside the phone that basically sets the phone up for a new user?
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I agree with that, for sure. It seems after playing with Android for over a year, I think a lot has to do with data integrity. I've many times rebuilt by hand and installed all my bazillion apps by hand after a wipe and had it work fine. Backup, reset. It's worth a shot. Most of us are here to tinker and learn. Can't do that without some pain!
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Data integrity is probably it.
Ex. I had a card game and after ti restore everything seemed to work except double click. before reset, engadget back button didnt work......
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When you say Reset are you talking a wipe from recovery or a Reset from inside the phone that basically sets the phone up for a new user?
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I think it's the same? Not verified' but when I did it from the phone menu in settings, it rebooted into recovery and automatically deleted data, system and I think cache. Not sure exactly because I wasn't paying attention as I wasn't expecting it. It also flashed something. Maybe someone that's trying it could do both and see if there is a difference?
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YES!!! today I noticed when using a different micro usb cable the computer could not find the phone maybe just maybe the configurations are different for these samsung phones. Just because the third party apps don't show an accurate reading doesn't mean they don't find you. I have had NO gps problems in ANY application, I listed somewhere else 6 different applications all worked fine and found me and lead me in the right direction.
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i believe some cables are charge only (like a lot of motorola cables) and others are charge/data cables - i went looking for a 180 degree adaptor (micro usb) and found them listed as 5 pin and 14 pin cables - suspect the other 9 pins are data transfer
very glad i did this reset...made a world of difference
People are mentioning back-up. All my contacts are obviously on my Google account, and I don't have any saved games or anything. Does Android let us re-download purchased apps after a phone reset? Would seem kind of dumb to not have that option.
When I made the switch to android one of the things I was most excited for was google maps and free turn-by-turn. I have tried everything to make this happen on my Fascinate. I upgraded to 2.2 and even tried the GPS Aids app. So my question to you guys is will the GPS ever work properly on this device or is there any other tricks I can try?
Thanks!
Did you update the radio?
My gps work great. Even the voice is much better.
SC 2.4
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heric1 said:
When I made the switch to android one of the things I was most excited for was google maps and free turn-by-turn. I have tried everything to make this happen on my Fascinate. I upgraded to 2.2 and even tried the GPS Aids app. So my question to you guys is will the GPS ever work properly on this device or is there any other tricks I can try?
Thanks!
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Uh. What issues are you even having? Although I do have some minor issues also. It connects perfect but every few minutes it drop GPS signal for about a minute and then picks it back upnot sure when this happened or how long or what version it started on as I barely ever use it.
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Uh. What issues are you even having? Although I do have some minor issues also. It connects perfect but every few minutes it drop GPS signal for about a minute and then picks it back upnot sure when this happened or how long or what version it started on as I barely ever use it.
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I can never get a lock on my location, even after letting it sit for several minutes. It is always in the right area but off with a massive blue circle.
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When I made the switch to android one of the things I was most excited for was google maps and free turn-by-turn. I have tried everything to make this happen on my Fascinate. I upgraded to 2.2 and even tried the GPS Aids app. So my question to you guys is will the GPS ever work properly on this device or is there any other tricks I can try?
Thanks!
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Did you go into setting>>loc&security and make sure both vzw and google location services box's are checked?
I did this and my GPS finds me immediately now (runninig froyo 2.2, sc 2.6 w/voodoo)
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Did you go into setting>>loc&security and make sure both vzw and google location services box's are checked?
I did this and my GPS finds me immediately now (runninig froyo 2.2, sc 2.6 w/voodoo)
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He's got at least VZW location services on due to the massive blue circle, which uses cellular triangulation. Wifi can get you a smaller circle, but doesn't work as well as GPS.
My phone has been totally unable to get a GPS lock for quite a while (since upgrading to EB01 based roms, but even on DI01 and DJ05 it was incredibly pathetic), even with updating the A-GPS data and having VZW & Google location services on.
I have tried all suggested issues. Do you think it is a hardware issue with my phone and I should trade it in or am I still missing something?
Sounds like you might have bad hardware. Since EB01 I just recently realized I didn't even need to have vzw or google locations checked. I get a lock just using stand alone service. 8/11 birdies locked in 18sec with an error of 13ft inside my house with GPS Status. And that was after a full wipe and rom flash.
good day.
Since EB01 happened I've had a near instant lock every single time.
I had the exact same prob. My gps problems have been completely intermittent, sometimes it would lock on and other times it would not. No matter what rom or radio I flash. But this is what seems to work pretty well.
1. Don't use the gps toggle button on the pulldown. Use the settings.
2. Use google maps v4.7 and don't let it update.
Hope this helps...
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I've been using the option from the pull down menu with mixed results.
I've started going into the location & security and enabling/disabling gps from their with much much better results.
Thanks for that tip .
With SC 2.4 ROM GPS was working GREAT!!
I updated to SC 2.6 and I cannot get a lock at all.
With Wi-Fi on the best i can do is get my location and the directions. I can only guess that maybe the clock was changed / tweeked in the later versions.
When I get time I will be rolling back to SC 2.4 ROM.
I have determined it is not a hardware issue as someone else in my area is experiencing the same issues. I updated to EB01 and super clean 2.6. My lock is about 50% now. Either the service is great and locks right on or doesn't at all with the massive blue haze. Someone suggested going back to super clean 2.4?
Once again thanks for all the help guys!
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1. Don't use the gps toggle button on the pulldown. Use the settings.
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this is the key. and one of the main reasons I went back to DL09 on my phone until the next build comes out.
if you turn it on in settings-->location&security it will work, and then you can turn it off/on via the notification bar for a while, until you reboot your phone...
Is it google navigation having the issue?
I continue to play around with this issue, and am noticing people talking about still being able to be picked up through GPS tools, but not get locked elsewhere. I am assuming that, like me, they are referring to google navigator giving the message "Searching for GPS". Oddly enough, Google latitude is accurately showing my location even when google navigator is telling me it is "Searching for GPS" and drops my turn by turn instructions. I saw one post from cableguy1 to use google maps 4.7 and disable updates, which I would be interested in trying. Anyone know where I can get v4.7?
*Never mind. Didn't pay attention to the fact that my Wifi was on, and the location was a couple houses off. It simply looked precise in comparison to the big blue circle I'd seen while driving. Sorry for the misinformation.*
SC2.4 doesn't have any locking issues for my wife. Good to go there, but not sure if we're just lucky.
2.4 working well
After finding a couple other threads addressing GPS issues, I've noticed people with sc2.4 to have the least problems. Flashed the AIO Odin version, and have had an instant lock so far all morning. Very nice to have google navigaion back
I just got my nexus 4 2 days ago and everything's great. Its running on all stock and havent really installed anything other than a few games and a launcher.
This morning i tried using the google maps app and Updated it to the latest version. The problem is it cannot lock on my location. I tried rebooting and on/ff all the location settings that i know of. Also installed gps stat app and it says that there are satellites available in my area.
The gps icon at the top left corner of the screen DOES NOT blink. And When i pull down the notication bar all i can see is "searching for gps"
Is my n4 defective?
PS. Im sorry if there are similar threads like this. I cant seem to find them.
Poiuytrewqasdfghjkl said:
I just got my nexus 4 2 days ago and everything's great. Its running on all stock and havent really installed anything other than a few games and a launcher.
This morning i tried using the google maps app and Updated it to the latest version. The problem is it cannot lock on my location. I tried rebooting and on/ff all the location settings that i know of. Also installed gps stat app and it says that there are satellites available in my area.
The gps icon at the top left corner of the screen DOES NOT blink. And When i pull down the notication bar all i can see is "searching for gps"
Is my n4 defective?
PS. Im sorry if there are similar threads like this. I cant seem to find them.
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If you haven't installed a 3rd party kernel, then I would say to first clear all the data in the app first. Reboot and try opening the gps. Are you opening the navi from the app or from maps?
If clearing the data doesn't work, try uninstalling the update. If that doesn't work try uninstalling the app and reinstalling maps.
Do not worry bout not getting a gps fixed. My first GPS fixed was achieved bout 10-20min and its a AGPS fixed, it was only after 2weeks of normal usage that my Nexus 4 finally can get a cold GPS fixed. I just go along with my daily chores like navigation and jogging app and wah la 2 weeks later my agps switch to gps fixed.BTW i'm in Singapore
Thanks for the replies. Its working now. I think turning the phone off for a minute fixed the issue. Gps locks within 10 seconds now.
Found the problem i had on my Nexus 4
Yahoo weather app caused my gps to lazy mode.. After installing this app GPS didn't come on when I open a relevant app (i.e maps) until I turn the gps off and on again each time. Uninstalling fixed it for me.
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Yahoo weather app caused my gps to lazy mode.. After installing this app GPS didn't come on when I open a relevant app (i.e maps) until I turn the gps off and on again each time. Uninstalling fixed it for me.
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WOW- saved me!, almost re installed the stock ROM from scratch:good:
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WOW- saved me!, almost re installed the stock ROM from scratch:good:
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I did it...And then I found your posts
Bad timing...
Yahoo Weather App is the culprit
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Yahoo weather app caused my gps to lazy mode.. After installing this app GPS didn't come on when I open a relevant app (i.e maps) until I turn the gps off and on again each time. Uninstalling fixed it for me.
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So true...Uninstalling Yahoo fixes it in a flash.
Uninstall Yahoo Weather!!
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Yahoo weather app caused my gps to lazy mode.. After installing this app GPS didn't come on when I open a relevant app (i.e maps) until I turn the gps off and on again each time. Uninstalling fixed it for me.
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And me...thank-you....I was about to return my N4 (would have been for the 3rd time btw - previous issues not related to GPS however...Device would shut down on its own, SIM cards not recognized). Anyhow...I appreciate your post...even though its been some time ago, it may yet help another. Thanks!
Ketchuppp app could cause this too
Since this post comes up as one of the first in Google I thought I would add this here for future visitors. I have had Yahoo Weather installed for some time without issue so I did a slow process of elimination and found that now the Ketchuppp app was causing my GPS to not turn on automatically. I assume this will be fixed in the future, since it seems to affect recently updated/launched apps that access the GPS.
This poll is simply to help determine whether there are hardware variances out there which will resolve the GPS lock dropping out, after some period of usage, issue.
There are many "workarounds" to help alleviate the issue, including limiting your usage to just Google Maps, updating Google Play Services, wifi options, clearing AGPS, etc.
What I'm interested in is whether anybody was able to maintain their normal usage and just swap out a unit and have the GPS issues resolved.
I'd like to isolate out folks whose GPS works fine simply because their normal usage pattern doesn't trigger the issue. By focusing only on folks that are triggering the issue who have exchanged their units, we can see if there are potentially hardware variances.
If there are a very low percentage of cases where a replacement fixes GPS, then it doesn't make sense for folks to keep exchanging their unit(s) hoping the new one fixes the problem. In this case, if GPS is really important, either take a chance waiting for Google to fix it (if they can) or return the unit and wait until it is resolved.
This poll will not tell you whether this is ultimately a hardware, software, or some combination issue. That requires understanding the root cause, which cannot be determined in a poll.
If your exchanged unit resolved GPS for you, please post
first 9 digits of "KBC" SSN number
build date from the box label
16 or 32gb
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SSN: D60KBC265xxx
Date: 2013.06
16gb
This will help figure out if there are any build/manufacturing patterns.
I voted no to see The poll.... I dont have my nexus yet. I hope I don't have any GPS issue that's the Main reason I traded my iPad mini for, that and the fact that I can pocket my tablet now
adeon said:
I voted no to see The poll.... I dont have my nexus yet. I hope I don't have any GPS issue that's the Main reason I traded my iPad mini for, that and the fact that I can pocket my tablet now
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There is a 'View poll results" button. No need to 'fake' results by voting when you are not giving any proper answer.
adeon said:
I voted no to see The poll.... I dont have my nexus yet. I hope I don't have any GPS issue that's the Main reason I traded my iPad mini for, that and the fact that I can pocket my tablet now
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For many people if ALL you use is google maps, no navigation, no earth, no gps status, no waze, etc. then you can get many of the units to hold lock for a while, possibly indefinitely.
However, a lot of people use a couple of gps apps and that is where the issues come up.
I guess fewer people use GPS on the tablet versions than the phone/tablet-with-mobiledata versions because their gps apps require data connections, which they may not have access to on the go, but many people still do have apps that work without a data connection or they tether the device.
So only 9 folks have actually exchanged the unit for GPS problems and found this thread? I would have expected more people would have exchanged given how many people are experiencing the problem on the GPS lockup threads.
People aren't exchanging because Google has said they are working on a fix. This implies it's a software issue that will be patched.
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People aren't exchanging because Google has said they are working on a fix. This implies it's a software issue that will be patched.
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I have never read they are working on a fix, just that they are looking into it. Please post where it says what you are suggesting.
To me "looking into it" and "working on a fix" are quite different levels of commitment from Google. Keep in mind if the problem is on the proprietary hardware side (likely Qualcomm) and/or with Asus who hooked everything up, Google would need to interface with them for a solution (if any) so it would be very hard for them to unilaterally say they are "working on a fix" without even knowing what the root cause is.
Here is the latest info from Google's "official" community manager Paul Wilcox
http://productforums.google.com/forum/m/#!category-topic/mobile/android-devices/prfUDZA7M2s
Jul 30 - Paul Wilcox
Thanks for the reports everyone, we're looking into it.Aug 2 - Paul Wilcox
Hi again everyone,
Could you please let me know a couple of things about your experience with GPS on your Nexus 7 tablets?
1. Do you still encounter this issue if you visit Settings > Location access > Access to my location = on as well as WiFi & mobile network location = checked?
2. If you visit Google Maps or another program that displays your location, is the app actually getting your location even if the GPS notification doesn't seem to show a tight GPS lock? Or is it unable to pinpoint your location?
Thanks!Aug 5 - Paul Wilcox
OK everyone, thanks for confirming my questions from a couple of pages ago, as well as the info that disabling Google Play Services seems to be a workaround. My Android engineering colleagues are investigating this issue.
By the way, in case you're not aware several components of Android use Google Play Services so disabling that can have some unintended consequences on the functionality/performance of your device. For example the Hangouts app won't work without enabling Google Play services.Aug 6 - Paul Wilcox
On Tuesday, August 6, 2013 8:18:48 AM UTC-7, Kenny Bateman wrote:
Also I'm wondering if anyone from Google ever responds on here. Some/any input would be great!
Yup Kenny, Googlers are present in this forum. See my response about this issue a couple of pages back on this thread.
No update for the community about this at this time, but the team is aware and investigating.
Aug 9 - ArsTechnica
Google's Paul Wilcox has been active in that thread telling users that Google was "looking into" the problem and asking some follow-up questions—it's unclear as of this writing whether the issue will be fixable in software with an update or if it's indicative of a deeper hardware problem. We've reached out to Google for further comment on the issue and will update this post if we get a response.
Update: Google's official response is that they're aware of the issue but not ready to comment further at this point. We'll continue to follow the story as it develops.
Since then complete radio silence.
When Asus last had GPS problems with the Transformer Prime, their "solution/fix" was to give people $17 and a free GPS dongle (they even claimed the Transformer Prime didn't include a "professional" GPS). This came after a class-action lawsuit and only residents of the US could officially file a claim:
Settlement: Asus to give GPS dongle and $17 to Transformer Prime users
http://www.androidauthority.com/asus-transformer-prime-settlement-183316/
http://event.asus.com/ASUSPad/TF201GPS/
I haven't returned mine...I mean what is the use? Also my screen is working excellently with no multitouch issues, I do not see any dead pixels and the screen bleed is fine. So what am I supposed to do? I don;t want to tempt getting a worse machine but the GPS not working sucks...kinda stuck...
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I haven't returned mine...I mean what is the use? Also my screen is working excellently with no multitouch issues, I do not see any dead pixels and the screen bleed is fine. So what am I supposed to do? I don;t want to tempt getting a worse machine but the GPS not working sucks...kinda stuck...
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Not suggesting you personally should exchange it, though based on your confidence level you'll get a resolution you are satisfied with (or you really don't need GPS), you may need to consider whether to return it or just take a risk.
Just trying to get feedback from those that already have, which of course there will be some.
So far from the polling it is looking like it is pointless to return it though. That could change if some people find units that work for them.
It does make you wonder if every unit has the same GPS problem and the people who report GPS works fine just have a usage pattern that doesn't trigger it (which may be perfectly fine for them)
How do you tell the build date?
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How do you tell the build date?
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It is on the label on the top and bottom of edge of the white box.
It'll be something like 2013.06, 2013.07 (or in the future 2013.08)
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Fair enough sfhub, I guess I interpreted Google's commitment differently. It seemed to me that "looking into it" implied they are troubleshooting, which appeared to me they were commited to fixing the issue.
They asked about google play services, and were interested to hear that it affects the stability of the GPS. That alone, seemed to imply (in my naive perception), that software has an intergral role in fault.
I interpreted the semantics differently than you, and basically deemed that I personally wouldn't return the Nexus as there is a good chance Google could patch the problem.
However, after reading your excellent breakdown of Google's communication, I see your point of view. I am therefore much more concerned that it is a hardware fault. I still remain blindly optimistic that it is a software problem. After all, the GPS can be stable under certain software circumstances (disabling google play, using only specific apps, and only one at a time).
Don't get me wrong, I would love the problem to be fixable in software and have a gut feeling that it can (because I can use just Google Maps and nothing else and it won't drop) but without any knowledge of the root cause that is purely a guess/gamble.
Paul Wilcox mentioning Google Play Services was actually in response to a couple of users posting they had disabled Google Play Services and it helped their GPS situation. It wasn't something Google determined on their own and was reaching out to the community.
I'm skeptical that is the issue as I have Google Play Services disabled and I still get the dropouts and other folks have mentioned upgrading Google Play Services helped their situation while others mentioned downgrading helped their situation.
If I were to guess, Google Play Services may have some effect on the issue, but isn't the root cause.
IMO "looking into it" just means you've gotten past the PEBKAC-meter.
D70KBC-155xxx
2013.07
32GB
I purchased this unit from the Google Store and received it this morning. I own a nexus 7 2012 and it has always worked fine. So I knew how to set up the GPS. After trying for an hour I phoned Google Support and and was sent on reams of useless apps that really did not have anything to do with the GPS. When she asked me if I could see my location on the google map I told her yes but only because I was hooked up on WIFI. The we went on a 15 minute discussion on the fact the tablet was not outside. I told her the other tablet which was more than 5 feet further to the window was working just fine with 11/12 SAT/FIX. This was a very painful part of the conversation. Finally she offered to have me download apps that would not need the GPS and make do without it.
At this point I told her I was getting somewhat upset and asked her to pass me to someone else. I basically went through the routine all over again and I finally told him I would send the unit back and have my credit card reverse the charge. That seem to wake him up. He then offered to send me a new unit and for me to hold to this one until the new one comes in. So that is where we are right now.
This was the first time dealing with google support and I sure was not impressed.
no problem so far
ive been using the gps for a good amount of time and i haven't had an issue yet
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ive been using the gps for a good amount of time and i haven't had an issue yet
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Don't take this the wrong way but the thread is looking for people who have a GPS problem and got a replacement unit to try and resolve.
It seems you never had a gps issue.
sfhub said:
Don't get me wrong, I would love the problem to be fixable in software and have a gut feeling that it can (because I can use just Google Maps and nothing else and it won't drop) but without any knowledge of the root cause that is purely a guess/gamble.
Paul Wilcox mentioning Google Play Services was actually in response to a couple of users posting they had disabled Google Play Services and it helped their GPS situation. It wasn't something Google determined on their own and was reaching out to the community.
I'm skeptical that is the issue as I have Google Play Services disabled and I still get the dropouts and other folks have mentioned upgrading Google Play Services helped their situation while others mentioned downgrading helped their situation.
If I were to guess, Google Play Services may have some effect on the issue, but isn't the root cause.
IMO "looking into it" just means you've gotten past the PEBKAC-meter.
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Did you reboot after disabling Google play services? That was the only way I could get it to work.
Disable and delete updates
Reboot
GPS works in navigation now
You get a ton of notifications to enable it again, but most apps still work fine without it.
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Did you reboot after disabling Google play services? That was the only way I could get it to work.
Disable and delete updates
Reboot
GPS works in navigation now
You get a ton of notifications to enable it again, but most apps still work fine without it.
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Yes, I have no updates at the moment, just what came stock, froze play services, rebooted.
I can get GPS to work indefinitely if I only use Google maps.
Once I use other GPS apps, including Google nav, it will lose ability to lock anywhere from 5 to 40 minutes
Sounds like a driver issue. Anyone try CM and if you get better results?
CM use their own kernel and drivers so you should get different results. That should prove it would be fixable in software.
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The issue is very intermittent. Today I wasn't able to reproduce with 2hours of GPS on. I have tried both stock and CM and had the bug on both.
Yesterday I lost lock consistently after 15-25mins on but rebooting would return it to life which makes me strongly believe it's fixable with software so I'm not too worried.
Wondering if anyone is having the same frustrating experience as me in terms of GPS locking on when first opening Maps or Waze. It seems like it's taking 2-3 minutes for Maps or Waze to actually figure out exactly where I am and properly display a route. I realize this was sort of normal years ago but not anymore. Before it locks on correctly, the route is created but a message about no GPS appears on the top of the app and I'm stuck not having directions. This was not an issue on my 5T. I'm on OOS 9.0.12 rooted. This has been the same on every version of OOS since I got the phone, even stock TMO ROM before I switched over.
Any ideas?
I use maps a lot for daily commute. For me the map gets GPS lock nearly instantly. I live in the Midwest so terrain is not a factor, and my home and work locations are not impacted by tall buildings, so I have a very easy case.
Have you tried some other apps that check number of satellites your GPS is locked to?
It's possible it is a hardware problem too.
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Frankenscript said:
I use maps a lot for daily commute. For me the map gets GPS lock nearly instantly. I live in the Midwest so terrain is not a factor, and my home and work locations are not impacted by tall buildings, so I have a very easy case.
Have you tried some other apps that check number of satellites your GPS is locked to?
It's possible it is a hardware problem too.
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I haven't tried any GPS specific apps other than the navigation apps. I used to use those years ago but not recently. It happens in various places. I live in NH so I could be in the city for a bit and then out in the middle of nowhere with not much around later on. Seems like it happens no matter where I am. I'll get an GPS app and see whats going on with the satellites though, thanks!
Having the same issue since monday after installing latest update update to my OP6T. Can't use any navigation app....
Since I've gotten the phone, I've had issues with the GPS. Gps aiming me in the wrong direction, telling me that I'm on the perpendicular roads and all kinds of crap. Sometimes I'm on the highway and it'll think I got off at an exit. But I didn't! So now it's rerouting me then it realizes that I'm actually on the correct road. So it reroutes me again. All while I'm traveling 60, and every precious second counts.
How can I get the calibration screen back?
To me this sounds like an intermittent fault with the GPS. Hardware problem.
First thing I do as soon as I get any GPS problems with an Android:
I install GPS Status from the playstore : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.eclipsim.gpsstatus2
Just start the app, then use your GPS and often the problem is gone. It's worth a try!
fehrcomp said:
First thing I do as soon as I get any GPS problems with an Android:
I install GPS Status from the playstore : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.eclipsim.gpsstatus2
Just start the app, then use your GPS and often the problem is gone. It's worth a try!
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Hey, thanks for this. Even inside a building this works pretty well. It's awful that we need another app to do what the phone should do on its own, but at least it works.
xgerryx said:
Hey, thanks for this. Even inside a building this works pretty well. It's awful that we need another app to do what the phone should do on its own, but at least it works.
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Sometimes it's not necessary to use GPS-Status all the time. You can try to delete the app maybe your problem is still gone. Anyway, nice to know that you are able to use your GPS again!
There is a problem with the 6T Gps for sure. I tested two Oneplus 6T devices. Both work 100% . Gps is very nice most of the time. If I am on call I loose Gps lock and I need to terminate the call to get Gps location back. It's not app specific as it happens in all gps apps. Even gps status looses lock. It happens always in the same place. Unfortunately it's near my home. I have no idea how to solve the problem. I tried Note 3/S8+/S7 - none have this problem. Most people have no idea what I am talking about as it's location specific. Anyone else has seen this problem ?
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Had a 6T and a friend also has one. The GPS is definitely crap.
It has lock in an open field. But if you are in a city, or there are various roads around you, good luck!
Managed to already do like 30km of a detour on foot thanks to it. It also caused Waze to tell me wrong directions.
I did check other phones, like a P10, and an S7 Edge, and a Note 4 (lol). They all had like full green signals, while the 6T struggled to achieve mid-range reception. There is something wrong with the antenna, or the gain, something. Hardware/build wise. I'd just get a OnePlus 7 or 5T (if someone can't wait). This is clearly something OP can't/won't fix. It's just not possible.
There was a site where they tested GPS lock... shame they didn't do one for the 6T.
Something is more than likely wrong with the phone itself. I have driven 10k+ miles in cities, country, desert freeways with no civilization for miles with this phone. I have never had a GPS issue. If it did have one, I'd be pissed since I'm a ride share driver and I go back to California on a regular basis visiting family from Las Vegas.
If you're rooted with magisk you can try installing the Global Optimized GPS File Replacer module
I use GPS constantly to handle traffic and the 6t works fine for me both in the city and out in the suburbs. No issues.
I will say maps recently changed something such that if it expects you to exit, but you stay on the highway, it shows you going down the exit for a few hundred feet until it realizes you aren't exiting. But that's a Google thing not a 6t thing.
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There is a problem with the 6T Gps for sure. I tested two Oneplus 6T devices. Both work 100% . Gps is very nice most of the time. If I am on call I loose Gps lock and I need to terminate the call to get Gps location back. It's not app specific as it happens in all gps apps. Even gps status looses lock. It happens always in the same place. Unfortunately it's near my home. I have no idea how to solve the problem. I tried Note 3/S8+/S7 - none have this problem. Most people have no idea what I am talking about as it's location specific. Anyone else has seen this problem ?
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Same exact problem, occurring only near my workplace. Consistently, on all versions of OOS so far. If I remember to start GPS Locker before opening Maps or Waze, it is much less likely to happen but it has happened twice even that way. Never had this issue with any other phone.
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Same exact problem, occurring only near my workplace. Consistently, on all versions of OOS so far. If I remember to start GPS Locker before opening Maps or Waze, it is much less likely to happen but it has happened twice even that way. Never had this issue with any other phone.
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I am still fighting with this issue. Just did a big install in my car and I have use Android Auto when driving and it's even harder to fix when it happens. Have to go back into the phone and launch the GPS fix app and hope the GPS starts moving on the head unit screen. It's very, very annoying.
GPS works great for me. I have only used custom ROMs so not sure how it works in stock. But using microg and osm+ I have never really had any issues. Using a GPS locking app such as GPS locker seems to help. Using Google apps for location is not working for me all the time beings how Waze requires Internet access to find locations. And beings how I use t mobile service is not available in most of western Washington. Even when using GPS locker I never have lost lock once GPS was locked. There has been two times I had to use the update a-gps from the GPS test app. If using microg local gsm seemed to be the best back end for me.