Making a titanium backup in 4.3 - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

When making a TB backup the only files that appear in the titanium backup folder are .properties. How come it is not Tar.gz the apps?
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I can't help you on this but I also experienced this. I made a batch backup and upgraded to 4.3 on pa. I tried to restore my backups but i found only properties extension files and no tar or gz. I thought I did something wrong or the process in upgrading (factory reset) caused this. I think factory reset deleted my backups. And I didn't copy my backups to my computer, since I haven't done a factory reset in a long time.
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Try changing the backup folder location in your TB preferences to /storage/emulated/legacy or upgrade to the latest TB version.

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NANDROID backup too small

Hi guys,
I have an unlocked/rooted N7. The tablet has quite a bit of data in it and I am trying to initiate a back up using ROM Manager but the backup is only of about 20Mb when I check it.
I tried to do the backup straight from CWM but it is the same, very fast to back up and I assume it is not backing up all of the partitions...
My tablet has about 5Gb used so I expect the NANDROID backup to be around this size ...
Any idea ?
Cheers
Don't count me on this but I believe that the blobs file within the clock work mod folder contains some information as well.
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Thanks for that, I have since checked the blobs folder and indeed it is about 1Gb in size but that doesn't explain the time to take the backup (strangely quick, about 30secondes).
I am not confident enough to test my restore to see if it works :]
julien.me said:
Thanks for that, I have since checked the blobs folder and indeed it is about 1Gb in size but that doesn't explain the time to take the backup (strangely quick, about 30secondes).
I am not confident enough to test my restore to see if it works :]
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This tablet does backup and restore very quickly. I can confirm they work as well.
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Was this the first nandroid that you took?
CWM 6.0+ now does incremental backups, the first backup creates a blob folder where 'common' files will be placed and teh backup itself only includes 'new' files.
That being said a full old style nandroid with TeamWin recovery on the N7 only took me 130 seconds
Thanks guys, I understand now why it takes very little time to take the backup
So not only the backup folder is used but also the blobs one...
Hate to bump this but I figure it's better than duplicating threads...
I just did a Nandroid backup (assuming that's the backup & restore function found in CWM) and ran two backups. Each came up to about 23-24MB. I do see a blobs folder, where there's about 1.6GB worth of data. My real confusion is... is this ALL of my data, partition structure, and everything? Pictures? App data? I just want to make sure I'm doing this properly.
Also, I want to store my backups on my server at home, so I'm assuming my best bet is to just copy both the backup and blobs folder entirely?
Nandroid does not backup your media, docs etc. It just backs up your system and user apps with the associated data for each.
Same for titanium backup. You need to backup those other things to your PC or a flash drive through the USB connection.
Under the clockwork directory there is a backup and blobs directory. Both of them combined are your nandroid backup.
Rootbrain
For 100% recoverable backup from PC I have to copy across the blobs folder then?
I'm interested in the user apps and data, they must be in the blobs I guess?
Just so I'm really clear on this...
Say I only had the backup timestamp folder and missed out the blobs, and did recovery from that, would it work? Would that return to a clean ROM, or would clockworkmod not be able to use it without the blobs folder?
Thanks
Apologies guys, I just did some more reading and found this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1933000
It explains it all, and I have my answers

Nandroid backup problems.

I'm running version 5 (beta) of the Tweaked Stock ICS ROM on my GT-P6800, but I'm having a problem with nandroid from CWM.
I've created some valid nandroid backups in the past, but I found (to my cost!) a few weeks ago that the more recent backups I'd made weren't valid.
Reading the CWM thread over at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1542897 it sounded like there was a known problem, but should have been fixed. I flashed version 6.0.1.1 this morning, but I'm still having the same problem.
Instead of getting three .img files and three .tar files, I'm getting the three .img files but then get three small (<1MB) .dup files instead of the .tar files (data.ext4.dup, cache.ext4.dup and system.ext4.dup).
Anyone else seen this? Any ideas why?
Sorry for posting this here instead of in the developers forum - I don't seem to have posted enough on XDA to allow me to post the question in the right place!
Thanks,
Adam.
Cwm now does incremental backups as only the changes from the original backup are done. This results in faster and smaller backup sizes after the original backup. If your original backup is corrupt delete the clockworkmod folder and redo your backup. After that incremental backups will be fast and small.
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kishd said:
Cwm now does incremental backups as only the changes from the original backup are done. This results in faster and smaller backup sizes after the original backup. If your original backup is corrupt delete the clockworkmod folder and redo your backup. After that incremental backups will be fast and small.
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Aaaaah! Right. Hmmmm. I kinda liked the standalone nature of the full backups.
Having been bitten by a broken backup before, I'm rather nervous of testing this out! So if I want to restore an incremental backup, do I select just the latest dated file, or do I need to restore the last full back-up (and it'll restore the original and all the changes), or do I need to restore each increment myself?
Are the backup folders completely portable, such that I can move them in and out of the 'clockworkmod' directory as requried, to force full backups each time?
Many thanks,
Adam.
Just select the last dated backup. I have restored a number of times using Iocerra's cwm 6
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Fantastic. Thanks, kishd.
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Is there any way to make a standalone backup?
And how do we know what backup folder is the main backup? Aka how do we know what one is safe to delete?
I've made several backups on different roms/kernels, and I often delete old backups to free room on sdcard..
edit: I just did a backup after changing backup format to "tar" and it was over 1GB. The previous backups were between 1 and 3 hundred MB, so I assume setting the backup mode as tar does a standalone backup. can anyone confirm?
changing backup format to "tar"
mvmacd said:
edit: I just did a backup after changing backup format to "tar" and it was over 1GB. The previous backups were between 1 and 3 hundred MB, so I assume setting the backup mode as tar does a standalone backup. can anyone confirm?
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How did you do this? I know I saw the option last night, selected it, and backed up, but then I flashed a couple upgrades and now I don't see this option anymore. I tried deleting the clockworkmod folder and backing up from fresh, but it made a dup backup. I've been burned by a string of broken dup's so I really want the tar format (plus, I can extract apps and data from a tar, but not from the blob/dup mixture). I even see a file in my new clockworkmod directory called ".default_backup_format" that contains only one word: tar. This file had to be created with the backup I just did, and yet it was still a dup style backup.
So, where did you see the option to change format to "tar"? I would really like to know.
Thanks.
kevlar11 said:
So, where did you see the option to change format to "tar"? I would really like to know.
Thanks.
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advanced backup options in CWM recovery (or same) ))

Restore from backup

I would like to install a rom with full wipe. I have a nandroid backup. My concern is can I really restore all my data including apps and game file via the nandroid back up?
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mirvashstorm said:
I would like to install a rom with full wipe. I have a nandroid backup. My concern is can I really restore all my data including apps and game file via the nandroid back up?
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You can use the nandroid if you want to switch back to your old Rom and you'll have everything as it was. If you want to restore your apps and game file on the newly flashed Rom, you should use Titanium backup. This way, all you need to do is to reinstall Titanium backup on your new Rom, set the path to the backup directory in preferences and restore your apps.
Just pay attention and don't restore the system files.
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also i would suggest a separate backup tool for the SMS, if u want to keep them on the newly installed ROM

[Q] Titanium Backup doesn't find any backups

Hey guys,
I have a little problem here. Since 4.3 Titanium Backup doesn't find any backups of apps I did on 4.3.
So everytime I backup like Whatsapp, do a factory reset or flash a different ROM and want to flash the backup of Whatsapp through Titanium Backup I can't because Titanium Backup doesn't show it. Even after backupping and rebooting, the backup won't show.
I already tried to change the backup folder and so on but it didn't help
danslecarton said:
Hey guys,
I have a little problem here. Since 4.3 Titanium Backup doesn't find any backups of apps I did on 4.3.
So everytime I backup like Whatsapp, do a factory reset or flash a different ROM and want to flash the backup of Whatsapp through Titanium Backup I can't because Titanium Backup doesn't show it. Even after backupping and rebooting, the backup won't show.
I already tried to change the backup folder and so on but it didn't help
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Titanium has been flaky lately with no update for a while.
Preferences go to backup folder location and click select device. Search whole device and select legacy instead of 0 which was the default. Use select folder and click no to moving the backups over as they are really the same place.
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noob15 said:
Preferences go to backup folder location and click select device. Search whole device and select legacy instead of 0 which was the default. Use select folder and click no to moving the backups over as they are really the same place.
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Did that already
Noone else has this problem?
noob15 said:
Preferences go to backup folder location and click select device. Search whole device and select legacy instead of 0 which was the default. Use select folder and click no to moving the backups over as they are really the same place.
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danslecarton said:
Did that already
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danslecarton said:
Noone else has this problem?
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After going though the same procedure that noob15 explained, which was a must for upgrading to 4.3, I've had no problems.
If you've made no other changes the default folder for is "TitaniumBackup" located on your mnt/sdcard/, and inside it you should find all your backups.
If you can find no such folder, or if it's empty, you've probably managed to delete the backups.
The joke is that I can find the backups via a file manager or through PC when connected via USB in all these folders. Only Titanium Backup fails to find them
yeah i have the same problem, change the backup folder and doesnt help.

Nandroid Backup

I just got into rooting and stuff, and I see that I need to have a nandroid backup. But when I do the backup can I store it on my pc and delete it from my phone? If I get into a bootloop or something how am I supposed to restore the backup?
Snothy said:
I just got into rooting and stuff, and I see that I need to have a nandroid backup. But when I do the backup can I store it on my pc and delete it from my phone? If I get into a bootloop or something how am I supposed to restore the backup?
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You can save the nandroid backup just like any other files. Save a copy of backup to your PC but don't delete it from your phone. The recovery has backup and restore options.
If you delete the backup from your phone and copy it to your pc then if your phone ever crashes then you will have to push the files to the appropriate folder via adb to restore it to the folder before you can restore the backup. Easier to just leave it on you phone....
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i have some heavy games installed on my phone ( 2-3 games each 1-2gb).
so if i make a backup (like backup from ROM MANAGER) then it will be heavy.
is there any way to backup selected apps while backing up rom???
P.S - if there is no way i will make backup and store it on my pc.
sid.8491 said:
i have some heavy games installed on my phone ( 2-3 games each 1-2gb).
so if i make a backup (like backup from ROM MANAGER) then it will be heavy.
is there any way to backup selected apps while backing up rom???
P.S - if there is no way i will make backup and store it on my pc.
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Use titanium backup for apps.
Backup using twrp or cwm recovery and drag the file to your pc.
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taodan said:
You can save the nandroid backup just like any other files. Save a copy of backup to your PC but don't delete it from your phone. The recovery has backup and restore options.
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U can put it on your PC and delete the backup on your phone. As long as u have TWRP, u can restore from SD card. Not sure bout CWM...
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scream4cheese said:
Use titanium backup for apps.
Backup using twrp or cwm recovery and drag the file to your pc.
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i mean while backing up my rom can i choose which apps to backup with the rom?
i want to backup the rom with minimal apps so that backup size remains small
sid.8491 said:
i mean while backing up my rom can i choose which apps to backup with the rom?
i want to backup the rom with minimal apps so that backup size remains small
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Unfortunately, no. (U can choose to not backup your data though...)
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Irwenzhao said:
Unfortunately, no. (U can choose to not backup your data though...)
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then I'll make backup when i uninstall those games
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sid.8491 said:
then I'll make backup when i uninstall those games
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Nandroid backups is only. Of the reasons I use Illusion ROM. super lightweight, but packs tons of goodness inside it. Frees up at least 500 mb of storage.
Smack that thanks button if I helped.
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Worst case, you do a factory reset through your recovery then copy the Nandroid back to the phone and install it.

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