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Do you have a tablet that you are on the fence about and thinking of returning it for the new Galaxy Tab 10.1 (US model)
Maybe your tablet has more ports or a keyboard dock or Google's baby(xoom) for updates.
I'd rather have a transformer but I think I'll stick with my galaxy tab anyway
I may return my Xoom for one of these. Depends on the reviews when they're released.
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I took my Blackberry Playbook back to BestBuy today. I was actual really impressed with the Playbook. However, I feel Android is going to be the future of Tabs, and that the 8.9 would be a better every day use, portable form factor.
I managed to procure a Google IO 10.1 which will be here Monday. Really looking forward to these tablets!
Returning my Xoom for it
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My xoom.. Motorola's handling of software upgrades (canada gets sd card functionality, but nothng for the us) is a joke, the screen is marginal and it is uncomfortable to hold on long flights.
Ultimately, my xoom bricked itself and never turned back on.. Thank goodness for costco's return policy.
My G-slate already went back. Eventhough I got it for $430 with no contract...
I might try the acer w500, people are saying it handles 1080p pretty well, this doesnt, also lack of expandable memory is a killer, although 3g is the only reason ill keep it for a while at least.
A nook color I'd prefer a slate that was meant to run honeycomb.
I'm not really returning it, just giving it to my friend.
I returned my Transformer. It was kinda tough, because I really will miss the microSD, micro USB, and mini HDMI ports on the tablet, plus the ability to use the most sweet keyboard dock ever.
I'm sacrificing a lot for the Galaxy Tab 10.1. But the Transformer did seem to have a lot of small annoyances too. Back was slippery. Glass was very thin. Tablet creaked a bit. Bezel was ugly. Felt a little cheap.
I'm going with the Galaxy Tab because it's lighter, something I value a lot in a 10 inch tablet, even small weight differences become noticeable over time.
The Galaxy Tab just looks a lot better. I don't mind admitting I care about the appearance of my tablet. Galaxy Tab looks sleek and elegant. Transformer looked quite ugly in my eyes with it's sharp angles and extra wide aluminum bezel.
Hoping the glass on the Galaxy Tab is thicker. I could push on the Transformer glass and easily see it bending like it was some cheap resistive display. Nothing like my iPad that doesn't bend at all.
I did the same thing,now I hope the GT10.1 will not disappoint me.
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I returned my Transformer. It was kinda tough, because I really will miss the microSD, micro USB, and mini HDMI ports on the tablet, plus the ability to use the most sweet keyboard dock ever.
I'm sacrificing a lot for the Galaxy Tab 10.1. But the Transformer did seem to have a lot of small annoyances too. Back was slippery. Glass was very thin. Tablet creaked a bit. Bezel was ugly. Felt a little cheap.
I'm going with the Galaxy Tab because it's lighter, something I value a lot in a 10 inch tablet, even small weight differences become noticeable over time.
The Galaxy Tab just looks a lot better. I don't mind admitting I care about the appearance of my tablet. Galaxy Tab looks sleek and elegant. Transformer looked quite ugly in my eyes with it's sharp angles and extra wide aluminum bezel.
Hoping the glass on the Galaxy Tab is thicker. I could push on the Transformer glass and easily see it bending like it was some cheap resistive display. Nothing like my iPad that doesn't bend at all.
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Ravynmagi said:
I'm sacrificing a lot for the Galaxy Tab 10.1. But the Transformer did seem to have a lot of small annoyances too. Back was slippery. Glass was very thin. Tablet creaked a bit. Bezel was ugly. Felt a little cheap.
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If you thought the back if the Transformer was slippery, then you're probably in for a surprise with the GTab. Personally, I'm not sure if I'll get the GTab or keep my Transformer.
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Jocelyn said:
If you thought the back if the Transformer was slippery, then you're probably in for a surprise with the GTab. Personally, I'm not sure if I'll get the GTab or keep my Transformer.
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Really? In a couple of reviews I read they didn't mention anything about it being slippery.
http://androidcommunity.com/samsung-galaxy-tab-10-1-review-google-io-limited-edition-20110511/
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Really? In a couple of reviews I read they didn't mention anything about it being slippery.
http://androidcommunity.com/samsung-galaxy-tab-10-1-review-google-io-limited-edition-20110511/
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I'm basing that off of owners who have posted in forums, not reviews. Moreover, I'm not really aware of any tablet review that's ever gone into how slippery the back of the tablet was.
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I was about to buy an acer iconia a500, but decided to wait for this one. I was worried about samsung forcing the touchwiz ui on top of it, but since I heard it is going to be optional I am gonna go with this for the size.
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I'm basing that off of owners who have posted in forums, not reviews. Moreover, I'm not really aware of any tablet review that's ever gone into how slippery the back of the tablet was.
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Samsung says they put an easy grip material on the back to keep the tablet from slipping.
Though looking at the back of the Google IO tablets, they look different and may not have the easy grip material, and instead got the Android tiles. So maybe the final retail Galaxy Tab will be better.
I returned an a500 yesterday to wait for this tablet to come out. Don't fail me now samsung
Returned my transformer. Many annoying problems that were mostly solved by rebooting, but once the touch screen died I just returned it to newegg.
Also returned the tf after my screen stopped responding to touch. Will be picking up the tab come June 8th
I'm really surprised with myself and I'm sure I've been shunned away from the A500 forums, but I too returned my A500 for the 10.1.
I've been a huge fan of Samsung products and I didn't want to change now. I enjoyed my A500, but I feel like the online community and manufacture support will be better with this.
I hate waiting until the 8th of June for it, but I'm willing to do it for a sleeker, thinner, lighter model. I'm a professional firefighter and I hated taking my 17" laptop to work with me for 24 hours. I was originally going to purchase the Xoom, but the price made it not worth it for me. The A500 was perfect, but again, I feel like I will gain so much more here. The HDMI, USB, and MicroSD did absolutely nothing for me. I was surprised how little I used it. I never even used the MicroSD slot.
Anyways, like everyone else on here, I'm hoping that in the end this will be a good decision.
I have been looking at getting a tablet for a while now. I have been very interested in the Adam especially for the pixel qi screen. I do a lot of reading and thought that it would be great. My question for everyone out there is what do you think the best way to go is:
Buy the Adam 1 now
Wait until the Adam 2 is released
or buy the Asus Transformer
Besides the Adam the asus kind of caught my eye, although it wouldnt be as good for reading, I love the dock and for indoor stuff like movies or what not the screen looks good.
I have tons of experience with rooting so am not afraid to get my hands dirty with the adam. Curious though, if even after rooting and flashing and what not if the adam is worth getting. And how the TF runs after root and what not
Where the crap did this thing come from and who has even heard of NotionInk? Does it run Honeycomb or what?
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Where the crap did this thing come from and who has even heard of NotionInk? Does it run Honeycomb or what?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_tablet
not even going to bother. ASUS Transformer all the way.
I was pretty excited about the Adam and the Pixel QI screen as well when it was announced. Subsequently, I've become much less excited. The device itself seems kind of clunky, the software has never worked very well as far as I can tell (they were trying to do some cool things, but I think they might have overreached a bit), and the Pixel QI screen isn't nearly so wonderful as it sounded. In backlit mode it's a relatively low-quality color screen, while it's not nearly as good as e-ink in reflective mode.
In short, I think NotionInk tried to do too much. That's why I have my TF for some uses, and my Nook 3G (e-ink reader) for others. So far, the tech's just not there for a real all-in-one device like the Adam tried to be.
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wynand32 said:
I was pretty excited about the Adam and the Pixel QI screen as well when it was announced. Subsequently, I've become much less excited. The device itself seems kind of clunky, the software has never worked very well as far as I can tell (they were trying to do some cool things, but I think they might have overreached a bit), and the Pixel QI screen isn't nearly so wonderful as it sounded. In backlit mode it's a relatively low-quality color screen, while it's not nearly as good as e-ink in reflective mode.
In short, I think NotionInk tried to do too much. That's why I have my TF for some uses, and my Nook 3G (e-ink reader) for others. So far, the tech's just not there for a real all-in-one device like the Adam tried to be.
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I second that. I believe I am in the position to provide a valid comment on this having been an owner of the adam first and being a proud owner of the transformer now. Indeed I remained charmed by the adam when I read what that tiny startup in India was trying to achieve: a tablet with the an innovative hardware (the first pixelqi screen, tegra2 etc. ) and an inspiring vision.
Unfortunately, the implementation did not deliver on the promises. The the tablet was indeed buggy (software) and did not receive the honeycomb code. I therefore decided to sell it and buy the transformer: I am very happy I took that decision on time.
i remember the good old notion ink adam days, thank god it took about 4 1/2 months for a pre order invite that I gladly canceled. thing is a junk now R.I.P
What everyone else has said. Transformer all the way! Still have my Adam but haven't turned it on since getting my TF about 2 months ago. I do miss the USB and I thought the speakers were fairly good. It also felt great in one hand - harder to hold the Transformer in one hand unless you grip it hard but it still feels slippery. PixelQi seemed almost worthless indoors as it is difficult to read. Screen is terrible on the Adam. If you want picture comparisons let me know.
I wouldn't buy a notion ink, I saw some inside pictures! PURE HORROR! Build quality is questionable at least....
I am using thre transformer for 2 month now and I am very happy.
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But more on a serious note, I wouldn't even know why anybody would want the Notion Ink. It's running on the previous generation of Android that's not optimized for tablet use (or dual core in that matter).
It's a step backwards. ASUS Transformer all the way.
This can't be a serious comparison
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What a rediculous thread, LOL. What's next? Palm Treo (circa 2005) vs Samsung Galaxy S 2?
XL2001 said:
What everyone else has said. Transformer all the way! Still have my Adam but haven't turned it on since getting my TF about 2 months ago. I do miss the USB and I thought the speakers were fairly good. It also felt great in one hand - harder to hold the Transformer in one hand unless you grip it hard but it still feels slippery. PixelQi seemed almost worthless indoors as it is difficult to read. Screen is terrible on the Adam. If you want picture comparisons let me know.
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Would like to see pictures, yes. I quite like the idea of Pixel-Qi but have never seen one in action in person.
hmmm
I guess thats what I would love to know, is if any one has tried to two side by side. For sure the transformer is backed by a better company and has more support. Just curious if the Pixel QI screen is worth running an old android version or anything like that.
Ths has to be a joke. In no way are the two remotely comparable. Last I checked the price for that thing was near the price of the TF, possibly higher.
It's dated, the hardware is crap, the design is clunky and it has QC issues of its own so you're not going anywhere with that in terms of QC. There's literally no comparison here. It's crap.
Couple it with unimaginably poor customer service that makes Asus look like the greatest company on Earth. When I say their customer service is worse than Asus you know I mean it and it must be god awful.
They ignore your e-mails and really you have no other entity to send it back to for RMA repair than them and I think I remember they either request you send it back to their LA third party contractor or in some cases China. There was a huge forum filled with pissed off owners. I think NotionInkFans.com. If you thought this place was swamped with people making "I'm leaving" or "Good Bye" posts, that message board ****s all over this one. There must have been fifteen a day on that one.
notioninkscam.com
Whatever you do, don't buy anything from this flimsy joke of a company.
Despite what most people here are saying I too considered the Adam. The screen seemed very exciting as well as USB on main unit. With that screen you will never get the same quality as Asus/IPad IPS screen indoors. If reading is your main concern you could look into a Nook, but if you want an all-rounder the Transformer is tops and you have the comfort of Asus behind the warranty and not a small business enterprise.
If you considered waiting for the Adam 2, why not wait for Transformer 2? About same release date.
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Whatever you do, don't buy anything from this flimsy joke of a company.
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Actually, they aren't a scam. I had an Adam. Sold it. Yes, they take AGES to ship, but it will arrive.
I much prefer the TF. The PixelQi screen sounded good, but in practice it wasn't anywhere near the level of, say, a Kindle screen.
I really wanted the Adam to succeed prior to getting it, but have to say I have no regrets in getting the TF.
I bought the Acer Iconia yesterday morning, and I was really not very pleased with it. The weight is a big issue for me, but the biggest problem I had was the screen. It was responsive enough and fairly bright, but the color reproduction and black levels are awful... After spending several hours messing with it, I decided to take it back today and pick up a transformer.
However, this forum has to be the biggest wet blanket in the world. I now have no idea what I want to do. Yes the screen quality of Iconia is bad, and it does experience the SoD like every other Honeycomb tab, but the list of issues that are mounting here are pretty considerable. The IPS display, and the supportive dev community had me pumped and ready to go, but now I'm thinking that it might be a sideways move. Dead pixels, black stripes on the screen, SoD, creaking bezel, reboots, lock ups... Jeez...
I guess the Thrive is the next on the list, but damn... That thing is the size of a standard hardback novel. And it's expensive to boot.
Divinedark said:
I bought the Acer Iconia yesterday morning, and I was really not very pleased with it. The weight is a big issue for me, but the biggest problem I had was the screen. It was responsive enough and fairly bright, but the color reproduction and black levels are awful... After spending several hours messing with it, I decided to take it back today and pick up a transformer.
However, this forum has to be the biggest wet blanket in the world. I now have no idea what I want to do. Yes the screen quality of Iconia is bad, and it does experience the SoD like every other Honeycomb tab, but the list of issues that are mounting here are pretty considerable. The IPS display, and the supportive dev community had me pumped and ready to go, but now I'm thinking that it might be a sideways move. Dead pixels, black stripes on the screen, SoD, creaking bezel, reboots, lock ups... Jeez...
I guess the Thrive is the next on the list, but damn... That thing is the size of a standard hardback novel. And it's expensive to boot.
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I think the newer batch (serial number B60xxxx) has a better build ... SoD and slightly creaking bezel (it may be ignorable when you put it in a case) may still be there, but the other issues should be pretty much gone. Except if you got a lemon ...
Hmmm... I wonder if Best Buy will let me thumb through their stock to look for a B60??? They also don't sell a case, so I have to go out looking for one... Ugh...
Okay, you guys must have the worst luck in the world. My Transformer doesn't have any of these issues and I have a B50. Does it have problems right away or is mine going to develop these issues over time?
ShensMobile said:
Okay, you guys must have the worst luck in the world. My Transformer doesn't have any of these issues and I have a B50. Does it have problems right away or is mine going to develop these issues over time?
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Same. I have a B50 and my first one was completely fine.
And I don't think the issues are going to build over time.
Actually, it looks like the Thrive is having some pretty well-documented SOD issues itself. I've had decent luck with my TF. Minimal light bleed, and a slight looseness to the bezel on the right (right above SD card). Imperfections aside, I love it. I'll definitely hold me until Android tablets round 2 (ICS).
Well, the dude at Best Buy did actually let me thumb through the stock. I got one of the 3 B60 revisions that they had. I also picked up the stand/sleeve from Toys R Us on the way home. Here's to hoping this isn't a lemon.
I love the screen so much more than the Iconia... I played with the display model (also B60) while I was waiting on "customer service". Colors look sooooo much better.
I got a B6 at best buy they had them in the display locked up and i told him i needed one with a B6 serial number he got me one. the only thing i see wrong with this hardware wise. light bleed. im a happy camper. but i did buy the extended warranty.
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Well, the dude at Best Buy did actually let me thumb through the stock. I got one of the 3 B60 revisions that they had. I also picked up the stand/sleeve from Toys R Us on the way home. Here's to hoping this isn't a lemon.
I love the screen so much more than the Iconia... I played with the display model (also B60) while I was waiting on "customer service". Colors look sooooo much better.
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Welcome back.
Well, I got her home, charged, rooted, and running on Revolver 0.2.1. OC'd to 1.2Ghz.The tablet is everything that I wanted, so far. I am still pretty excited to see where the dev community goes. I really hope to see some new kernels and creative roms show their faces. I'd also like to see Virtuous's Galaxy/Xoom/Thrive roms on our little tab.
As far as issues. I have 3 places on the screen with minor spotlighting, but to be quite honest, I have worse on my iPad 1.
The battery life is stellar so far. Much better than I had with the Iconia. To top that off, the case Asus offers is EXACTLY what I was wanting. It's almost identical to the Apple iPad stand case.
The strangest thing I've noticed between the two tabs is the flash performance. The Transformer just blows the Iconia out of the water. Justin.TV is a completely pleasant experience all the up to the 720p+ mark and beyond. The Iconia had noticeable lag when playing anything on the channel.
The Iconia's speakers were definitely of a higher quality, but after correcting the speaker balance issue, and using Supercurio's mod, the sound is every bit as good, if not better than my iPad 1.
In the end, I'm pretty damn happy with it. My wife is a complete Apple fan, and she walked by while I was working on the Transformer, and she stopped and said "What is that?!?" I told her it was Android Honeycomb, and she snatched it out of my hands. That's fine... She can play, but in the end, she's getting the iPad...
Hey guys,
After much thinking. I used my Best buy Buy back money from selling my Galaxy nexus and some gift certificates to purchase this tablet. I'm even selling my Ipad 3 to my friend. It's very interesting, i'm loving the S-pen, i think it's great. I just keep getting cramps when I write (i write alot) so I think i'll need to get a better S-pen. the only gripe is the screen since I was using a retina hi-dpi screen. That took some time to get adjusting. I'm loving the multi-window and I don't even have JB!!! I have ICS!
But anyways, what is a good screen protector and what is a good case. as I keep writing, it keeps sliding, i wish it was more rubbery in the back.
Thanks,
Tom
And if you guys know a good JB rom that goes with 8013 devices, please let met know. I want JB asap!!!
DammitCubs said:
Hey guys,
After much thinking. I used my Best buy Buy back money from selling my Galaxy nexus and some gift certificates to purchase this tablet. I'm even selling my Ipad 3 to my friend. It's very interesting, i'm loving the S-pen, i think it's great. I just keep getting cramps when I write (i write alot) so I think i'll need to get a better S-pen. the only gripe is the screen since I was using a retina hi-dpi screen. That took some time to get adjusting. I'm loving the multi-window and I don't even have JB!!! I have ICS!
But anyways, what is a good screen protector and what is a good case. as I keep writing, it keeps sliding, i wish it was more rubbery in the back.
Thanks,
Tom
And if you guys know a good JB rom that goes with 8013 devices, please let met know. I want JB asap!!!
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Congrats. I also recently sold my books to amazon in their buyback program and bought the note. lol couldn't resist.
If you want a drawing tablet pen, don't just buy any drawing tablet pen because it won't work. Go to the accessories section and you will find many reviews and which pens work http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1738
Regarding screen protector, make sure they don't offset your pressure sensitivity . For this too check out the accessories section and find reviews. Hope this helps !
Congrats on your new note, like we all said its great tablet.
There are sections in accessories which talk in great details on both SPen an Screen protector, if you can wait till Jan Bamboo is coming out with a new pen
I'm using official Samsung note 10.1 screen protectors (clear type) got a twin pack on amazon for £11 http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B008PCBDEW/ref=mp_s_a_1?qid=1354884241&sr=8-1-fkmr0&pi=SL75 , also ordered the official note 10.1 book cover case, dead slim. & full access to screen, £26 from ballicom http://www.ballicom.co.uk/efc1g2nge...xy-note-101-galaxy-note-101-wifi.p866704.html
If you are using the white nib in your s-pen, try changing it to the black nib with white tip... It has a bit better grip on the screen as the black coating is rubber..
Well i find the opposite to be true I am using the full white nib and its pretty good with my cheap screen protector but it may not be great for drawings and all that stuff
I don't use a screen protector atm... I found that depending on what you have it can be a real pain to write with versus just the plain glass screen... I also use the bluetooth stylus and a 3rd party stylus I bought cheap...
I got mine Shield Tablet on Saturday, at the Gamestop in PalmBay, FL (Closest Place that had them in stock). They had 2 remaining in stock after I got mine. They did not have the cover or controller.
Mine is replacing a Nexus 7 (2013). The lack of an SD Card slot in the Nexus was really bugging me.
The Shield tablet's front-facing ported speakers are also very noticeably better.
I also find it amazing how much easier it is to see the screen (I wear reading glasses), despite the fact that there is not that much difference in size. I need to see if the DPI set lower in build.prop.
The only thing I miss is Near-Field, and that is more appropriate to have on a phone, so it is no big omission, but I guess it means no more tap-to-pay for me until I get a new phone.
The Nexus 7 was definitely a "Settle-for" when I bought it, because I could not find anything that met my requirements, but the Shield does meet all of them:
-- Standard USB charging
-- 8 inch tablet with a worthy resolution
-- Front facing stereo speakers
-- Standard ports and slots
(There was a Chinese Tablet that met the specs: The FNF iFive X2, it was also cheaper, but I was a little worried about the firmware, and firmware updates on a tablet like that.)
I also got 20% off on the Nexus 7, so I went for it at the time.
To be clear, IMHO, the Shield Tablet would not be worth $115 more than the Nexus 7 ($229 - 20% = $185 vs $299) (if you can get one at that price), but at the same time, I think it is worth $70 more --- It's that close.
Ironically, the Nexus 7 will now be used for Gaming, and the Shield is my "Work Tablet".
More details comparing the 2 if anyone is interested.
Small world. I bought mine at the same place on Saturday also. I went in Friday night and they had 3. I wanted to see it in person but they didn't have a display up. I decided to sleep on it as I'm replacing my aging Nexus 10 and was concerned about the size. Saturday I decided to go for it so I actually called GS to hold one for me. By the time I got there, the other two were gone and I got the last one. So far I'm very pleased with it. Just waiting on a controller to round out. Performance of this thing is unbelievable! Getting used to its size and almost makes my N10 feel bulky in comparison. Good purchase!
Wow! Yeah, it is a small planet.
I was in Best Buy on Friday night, and the salesman said that they were not going to get them until October. He said that 8 people a day were asking for them.
That's when I called GS, and... we both know the story. If one was on hold for you, and another must have sold shortly after I got mine, I guess it was lucky that I got there fairly early.
Picked mine up at the microcenter in minneapolis while on vacation. LOVE that tablet. Only gripe is that x-com doesn't work on it. Crashes as soon as you try to start a game.