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FM on Wizard?

Is it just possible to have an FM radio on the O2 Mini S? I know many would like to have it... wonder why it wasn't included. Any solutions... thanks.

try http://www.thestreamcenter.com/pda/ , I stream fm radio through my mda all the time

Thanks but...
Thanks for the information. But I would like to listen to my local FM channels. Without streaming them... any suggestions for that?

It's not possible, as there's no FM receiver hardware in the Wizard... :roll:

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Oh ok... probably have to look for and external handsfree with an FM radio... pity... got everything... but...

you could always buy something like this and use a jack adaptor on the mda http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Stereo-Earpho...37QQihZ016QQcategoryZ3274QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

You can certainly do it with BBC radio stations which include local like merseyside, manchester, leeds etc. Use Real Player.

hgomes2k said:
try http://www.thestreamcenter.com/pda/ , I stream fm radio through my mda all the time
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sweet thanks, it has 1 of the 2 radio stations i listen to alot. thanks.

FM Radio for Elf

Hey
Is there a cab of FM Radio for Elf??
Thanks

The Elf does not have fm radio, never has, never will. It is not capable as it does not have the hardware; however, if you want to try it anyway - Try the FM Radio cab for the touch diamond.

I have already trying this but it doesn't works... Thanks for your fast answer

Sorry, It doesn't work because it can't work. As I said before, No hardware in the elf for FM Radio.
If you have a good data plan - Use can listen to internet radio. This is what I do and I get much better selection of music to listen to with no *(or hardly any) commercials.

Ok, good idea

i know that there is no hardware in the elf but is there a mod you can do to add the hardware inside the phone? or is there a mini usb attachment to give you fm?

caraudio014 said:
i know that there is no hardware in the elf but is there a mod you can do to add the hardware inside the phone? or is there a mini usb attachment to give you fm?
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Never heard of such a thing myself...
However, you can go to the dollar store and buy one of those cheap fm scanning pocket radio's - even comes with ear buds and you are good to go

Hi i think there is a bluetooth headphone with built in FM radio ( may be Motorola ! i cant remember ) you may search ebay or amazon

ok well thanks anyways for the help

FM Transmitter/Receiver Broadcom BCM4329EKUBG

I was trying to do a little research in to if I could get the FM transmitter/reciever to work or if it would be even possible. A little google searching around I found this. And the person who had been doing the most work on that part of android was an actual broadcom employee. So I sent him a quick, polite email asking him about FM support in the Nexus one. It is as follows:
"Mr. Harte,
I noticed your commits here. Will Broadcom provide support/drivers for the FM transmitter/receiver in the Nexus One and other Android devices?
Sincerely,
Will"
And his surprisingly helpful and quick response:
"Hello,
The FM receiver is supported in the HTC Incredible and HTC EVO 4G. I’m not sure if the Nexus One hardware supports FM. The 4329 chip has FM, but I don’t know if the external components required for the FM Antenna are populated on the board. I believe there is also some work needed in the kernel to enable the audio path for FM, but if/when HTC open-sources the kernel for the EVO or Incredible, this should be evident. Also, the EVO and Incredible use the Broadcom Bluetooth stack, while the Nexus One uses BlueZ. I don’t think there is any support in BlueZ for FM. I have no idea about FM Transmit, but I would highly doubt it is possible to get that to work…
-Howard"
That makes me sad but at least now I know. Hopefully though this will provide some light to any crafty developers interested tinkering with this.

Shorthand.
Even if the hardware says fm/transmit/receive, we would have to solder, replace the bluetooth stack, and possibly replace the chip firmware to get it to work.
Short, short hand.. NO FM on nexus one.

No really, somehow he neglected to mention the sister Desire.

Regarding the antenna portion, it's been proven that the nexus can find stations. . .just not output any sound from them.

Mi|enko said:
Regarding the antenna portion, it's been proven that the nexus can find stations. . .just not output any sound from them.
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I do remember reading about that. Can you find the source? If thats true, then we know the only problem is the stack.

williamthrilliam said:
I do remember reading about that. Can you find the source? If thats true, then we know the only problem is the stack.
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Check the notes from Modaco's Desire ROM port. I think it's there. But since FM radio is analog, there may be a lot more to it than a stack.

attn1 said:
Check the notes from Modaco's Desire ROM port. I think it's there. But since FM radio is analog, there may be a lot more to it than a stack.
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Yup, his bluetooth doesn't work because he is using the Nexus One kernel. Well, we now know what part of the kernel isn't allowing the bluetooth to work; Bluez vs the Broadcom Stack. I don't know the legal implications of using it, but it seems like it would be possible.

Devastatin said:
Shorthand.
Even if the hardware says fm/transmit/receive, we would have to solder, replace the bluetooth stack, and possibly replace the chip firmware to get it to work.
Short, short hand.. NO FM on nexus one.
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Patently FALSE.
All we need is a kernel with FM support and the FM driver. Receive is definitely possible.
I do believe however that the power amplifier chips for transmitting are absent, so that won't be a possibility.

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Yup, his bluetooth doesn't work because he is using the Nexus One kernel. Well, we now know what part of the kernel isn't allowing the bluetooth to work; Bluez vs the Broadcom Stack. I don't know the legal implications of using it, but it seems like it would be possible.
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Getting an analog tuner that isn't connected to anything to tune is not much help. I don't care what software you write, if there is no output to be captured, it's not going to happen. It's like a cable box with no television connection. It tunes just fine. If the rest of the connecting hardware is there, then there's a shot. But Google has never said there would be FM in the Nexus One at any point. I am less than optimistic.
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Patently FALSE.
All we need is a kernel with FM support and the FM driver. Receive is definitely possible.
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That still has not been determined.

or you can go to your favorite radio station's website and click on "listen in" or whatever and now your listening to FM on your phone. =D
or maybe not, thats how it works on my pc..

i dont understand what the bluetooth has anything to do with this? why does it matter the blueZ vs broadcom bluetooth hardware? it sounds like the fm radio portion is there and can even pick up stations with an antenna, just routing the audio. but that doesnt need to happen thru bluetooh, it could happen through the headset or loudspeaker.

RogerPodacter said:
i dont understand what the bluetooth has anything to do with this? why does it matter the blueZ vs broadcom bluetooth hardware? it sounds like the fm radio portion is there and can even pick up stations with an antenna, just routing the audio. but that doesnt need to happen thru bluetooh, it could happen through the headset or loudspeaker.
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The Broadcom BCM4329EKUBG has all of these functions built in. FM, 802.11, bluetooth.
http://www.broadcom.com/products/Bluetooth/Bluetooth-RF-Silicon-and-Software-Solutions/BCM4329

RogerPodacter said:
i dont understand what the bluetooth has anything to do with this? why does it matter the blueZ vs broadcom bluetooth hardware? it sounds like the fm radio portion is there and can even pick up stations with an antenna, just routing the audio. but that doesnt need to happen thru bluetooh, it could happen through the headset or loudspeaker.
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The bluetooth/fm/wifi are all on one chipset.

ChillRays said:
or you can go to your favorite radio station's website and click on "listen in" or whatever and now your listening to FM on your phone. =D
or maybe not, thats how it works on my pc..
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For the most part yes (esp. with those of us with froyo and flas ). But what made me start searching for this was a tornado that past by me by only a few miles. I luckily was in the car and able to tune in to a station broadcasting the Emergency Broadcasting Systems's message, but I thought it would be nice to be able to do that on my phone.

RogerPodacter said:
i dont understand what the bluetooth has anything to do with this? why does it matter the blueZ vs broadcom bluetooth hardware? it sounds like the fm radio portion is there and can even pick up stations with an antenna, just routing the audio. but that doesnt need to happen thru bluetooh, it could happen through the headset or loudspeaker.
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Integrated circuits perform multiple functions. That broadcom chip could do a lot more than blue tooth. FM is analog. If all you have is the tuner and there is no connecting hardware, then yeah, you receive a signal, but it's going nowhere. If you can't capture the output, you can't use it. Do we know if the FM radio signal in the Desire is ever digitized? It could work like a regular FM radio and the digital/software part is for tuning purposes only and radio itself is analog. I read somewhere is that the HTC FM radios require wired headset use - and don't play back through blue tooth. Irony there, I think. Speculation is that is because they are used for an antenna, but I think it could also be that it's because it's an analog output. I am guessing the N1 is missing all the required circuits - except the tuner.

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Integrated circuits perform multiple functions. That broadcom chip could do a lot more than blue tooth. FM is analog. If all you have is the tuner and there is no connecting hardware, then yeah, you receive a signal, but it's going nowhere. If you can't capture the output, you can't use it. Do we know if the FM radio signal in the Desire is ever digitized? It could work like a regular FM radio and the digital/software part is for tuning purposes only and radio itself is analog. I read somewhere is that the HTC FM radios require wired headset use - and don't play back through blue tooth. Irony there, I think. Speculation is that is because they are used for an antenna, but I think it could also be that it's because it's an analog output. I am guessing the N1 is missing all the required circuits - except the tuner.
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This is true of the Touch Pro hardware at least. The FM Radio wouldn't function with out the headphones plugged in. It used the headphone wire as the antenna.

there is a great thread going in the nexus development area where some people are trying to write the kernel so that the sound has an output. It sounds like they are making great progress maybe anyone reading this thread who has some technical skills can help. I believe they too have been able to tune the phone to a station but not output the sound yet.

It seems to me we need definitive answers to the following 2 questions from HTC / Google ...
Q1. Does the nexus one have the necessary hardware and interconnections for FM radio reception and output through either the speaker or headphones. YES/NO?
Q2. Does the nexus one have the necessary hardware and interconnections for FM radio transmission of any type (music / voice). YES/NO?
If both answers are a definitive NO, we can move on. If there is a YES then the clever people here, who make the magic happen, have some hope of success.
Does anyone know the correct ppl at HTC / Google to ask these questions of?

I don’t have anything to add but would like to encourage you guys in your endeavour to get FM radio working on the N1 and also point you too or remind you what androidpolice reported at Google I/O
If this is true then perhaps all the building blocks are in place.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/0...nity-as-our-best-bet-post-google-io-coverage/

sd00 said:
It seems to me we need definitive answers to the following 2 questions from HTC / Google ...
Q1. Does the nexus one have the necessary hardware and interconnections for FM radio reception and output through either the speaker or headphones. YES/NO?
Q2. Does the nexus one have the necessary hardware and interconnections for FM radio transmission of any type (music / voice). YES/NO?
If both answers are a definitive NO, we can move on. If there is a YES then the clever people here, who make the magic happen, have some hope of success.
Does anyone know the correct ppl at HTC / Google to ask these questions of?
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Or maybe we just need to think and use the info that we have in other threads on the subject. But I'll repeat things written in another thread, by myself and other guys:
Q1. Broadcom chip brief (the best doc available for it on the net) clearly shows the radio having no separate connections but using BT's high speed UART and I2C. The interconnects are the same, and since Paul's Desire port has radio control working - that means I2C is working too, so the answer is YES.
Q2. The stated output power of the chip is good enough for short-range transmission w/o a dedicated antenna, using headphone cord. The control and data are given in the same way as in Q1. So, the answer is YES again, but with more trouble - while there is a working device utilizing FM receiver functionality, which can at least theoretically be ported completely using its source, there is no device with FM transmitter, which means - if someone wants to use transmitter, that someone needs to acquire specific Broadcom documents for the chip.
So I guess the thread can be laid to rest, and anyone that can really help - for example, to go over Desire source and figure out the correct setting for QSD UART to receive FM audio and the procedures to stream it to the speaker - are welcome to head over to Dev section.

[Q] samsung galaxy s4 fm radio tuner

hi, sry i am not very good at phone but how can i listen to radio on the galaxy s4 ? without using the web based radio, are there any accessories that can help. tq

There isn't a fm radio build in. So webbased radio's are the only option
Verstuurd van mijn GT-I9505

tooicecool said:
hi, sry i am not very good at phone but how can i listen to radio on the galaxy s4 ? without using the web based radio, are there any accessories that can help. tq
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You can't! S4 don't have FM Radio. End of story.
Sent from my GT-I9505

Any chance that Samsung just disabled it at software level and it can be enabled again by some hack?
I actually don't care very much about FM*radio itself, but TMC/RDS for GPS is handy feature.

Đonny said:
Any chance that Samsung just disabled it at software level and it can be enabled again by some hack?
I actually don't care very much about FM*radio itself, but TMC/RDS for GPS is handy feature.
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Very unlikely.
When rooted my FM app "works" on the BCM4335 on the GT-I9500 but shows RSSI as always 0.
Most likely the FM antenna pin is grounded/disabled, just like it is on the majority of devices these days. They also show 0 RSSI.

Still not giving up . If it is grounded chances are that it can be un-grounded and connected to earphones as it should be. Well, if it is physically accessible, somebody can identify it on the board among a lot of tiny stuff, and somebody wants to violate one's warranty.

Sony MW600 stereo bluetooth earphone with FM radio is the right companion for a Galaxy S4.

hi, sry i am not very good at phone but how can i listen to radio on the galaxy s4 ? without using the web based radio, are there any accessories that can help PLZ

@cool4bharat: Buy a MP3 player with a built-in radio. That's the only accessory that will let you listen to the radio without using the Internet as the S4 does not have a radio. And before you ask, there is no way in firmware to "turn on" the radio nor are there any accessories which will help.

[Q] Development status for FM support.

Dear friends,
I had read in some threads about the existence of the BCM4329 inside the HD2, that it makes FM receiver AND TRANSMITTER options possible.
So, I was wondering about the chance of having FM transmissions possible, if things had progressed with the years (those news are from 2010, still focused on WM6.5), also thanks to the existence of very updated versions of Android, although it seems to me that nowadays an FM API is still not available to us.
Thank you.

What are you talking about? Where did you search for this? As a Google search you are Fired!
Just instal Spirit FM and you are ready to use FM Radio on your magnificent HD2. Plug the Headphones which are needed as antenna. Also the Radio will turn on Bluetooth because the chip to run FM radio is implemented into it.
Have Fun.

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What are you talking about? Where did you search for this? As a Google search you are Fired!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=622377
The only thing that I would like to add is that one of attached file is not exactly a datasheet but a simple brochure, at least in my opinion...

clrscr said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=622377
The only thing that I would like to add is that one of attached file is not exactly a datasheet but a simple brochure, at least in my opinion...
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What is your point? I got HTC HD2 and I use Spirit and everything working fine. Where is your problem? Maybe you have the wrong Rom installed. I know someone complain with some rom but the hardware it's the same.

BTW, what FW trasmissions for?

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Dear friends,
I had read in some threads about the existence of the BCM4329 inside the HD2, that it makes FM receiver AND TRANSMITTER options possible.
So, I was wondering about the chance of having FM transmissions possible, if things had progressed with the years (those news are from 2010, still focused on WM6.5), also thanks to the existence of very updated versions of Android, although it seems to me that nowadays an FM API is still not available to us.
Thank you.
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Unfortunately, there hasn't been much progress on that field (as a matter of fact, there hasn't been any progress at all). If you read the replies in that thread, they couldn't make it work. The furthest the could get is to confirm that the HD2 indeed does have the chip.
eclyptos said:
What is your point? I got HTC HD2 and I use Spirit and everything working fine. Where is your problem? Maybe you have the wrong Rom installed. I know someone complain with some rom but the hardware it's the same.
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He isn't talking about the radio receiver, he's talking about a radio transmitter. E.g. You run a special app, ask the app to transmit a song using radio. And then you can listen to that song, say, in a car using the radio. No wires/bluetooth connection needed. Simply tune in and listen. I really wished they did it.. what a pity.

Marvlesz said:
He isn't talking about the radio receiver, he's talking about a radio transmitter. E.g. You run a special app, ask the app to transmit a song using radio. And then you can listen to that song, say, in a car using the radio. No wires/bluetooth connection needed. Simply tune in and listen. I really wished they did it.. what a pity.
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Yeah, I figure out this at the end, my bad. :angel:
It will be a good option but the radio receiver will have to tune to a specific frequency and this part I think will be the issue here. In terms of words so simply but unconventional.
I think they don't do that for a national security.