[ROM][GT-I9305] Ubuntu Touch Preview (Discussion until First Release) - Galaxy S III General

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- Until the Release of the first build this is purely Discussion and the steps leading up to the first build.
- I'm new to the Android Development side of things as all I've ever done was install Mods/ROMS/Recoveries and change a few settings here and there.
- I am in the process of trying to pick up all the skills needed to start this undertaking so it will be a while before you see any sort of real progress.
- If you can list things you think I ought to know please either send me a PM or post.
- I'm currently just setting up Virtual Box Configurations for Development.
Any help would be appreciated!
WIKI
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Official Ubuntu Touch (i9300) Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices/i9300
THANKS TO
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- codeworkx (Topic Layout and inspiration)
- Androguide.fr (i9300 Build)

Could someone please explain how this OS could work on our devices? Is it based on CM?
Would be awesome to try out this rom.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iv1Z7bf4jXY&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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That's great. I've always wanted to try something like this, but I don't have the hardware to do so (32 bit computer)

KillEmAllx said:
Could someone please explain how this OS could work on our devices? Is it based on CM?
Would be awesome to try out this rom.
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It's Ubuntu.... read. GIYF

um is this for the standard i9300 or is this for the i9305 because its all different

NTT Docomo SC-03E
I have a NTT Docomo Samsung Galaxy S3 Alpha. Its has a Exynos 4412 1.6 GHz quad processor (same as Note II) with 2GB RAM. Its LTE. Is Ubuntu Touch available for this?

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I don't suppose that the lot working on Ubuntu could cut out the rubbish that is comparing ARM quad core CPU's with x86 quad core CPU's?
other than that, it's nice to see another somewhat-edge oriented touch interface and will be interesting to try it on my i9305 once releases start coming, probably not gonna be a keeper though.

I'd really love to run Ubuntu Touch on GT-I9305 !!
So followed the instruction for the GT-I9300 device - but while the installation process it aborted with a message like some symlinks not working properly..
I'm ****ed up of android with google.. so I will install a native android on that device - but I'm the first who installs Ubuntu Touch ASAP!!
Thank you very very much for your work!!

eagerly awaiting first release,,Pheoxy r u compiling this or r u waiting for someone else to compile,,, if u r compiling,,,, have u made any progress

I have gotten my big computer out of storage.. I might setup Linux and see what I can do towards this project
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is anything moving on this front?

jakmes said:
is anything moving on this front?
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Unfortunately no, I've had a lot of setbacks lately and getting things sorted. My phone sort of dying and not letting me install most custom Roms has set me back a bit and I'm in the middle of some courses.
So until some of that's been taken care of or someone decides to have a go themselves I'm stalled but happy to update the thread if someone does come along.

Shame just purchased this phone sad this project is stalled would love to se e this
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Just need to wait till my internet rolls over to the next month so I can download the sources
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winxuser said:
Just need to wait till my internet rolls over to the next month so I can download the sources
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nice I would really love to try ubuntu touch on the S3

My son tried it in his mako (officially supported). Very preliminary version. No market, apps must be installed by terminal Linux commands, even keyboard and language require terminal commands.
No apn. No sim code asked, so no network.
In fact unusable. So I can't imagine how it can be here.

hmmm cheers for that info,, ill look into it once ubuntu is setup

Striatum_bdr said:
My son tried it in his mako (officially supported). Very preliminary version. No market, apps must be installed by terminal Linux commands, even keyboard and language require terminal commands.
No apn. No sim code asked, so no network.
In fact unusable. So I can't imagine how it can be here.
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Getting the preview running makes it easier on release to port it.
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Try to follow Ubuntu Touch wiki guide.
Hope I'll manage to port it.

Related

ICS Nexus S 4G full working

Fully Stable ICS​I would just like to let you guys know (If you havent been in General Lately.) that some devs at Androidcentral are working on an ICS rom built from SDK
http://forums.androidcentral.com/sp...127806-read-only-memory-ics-sdk-port-wip.html
Flash this afterwards so you get Root, Proper fonts and lockscreen fixes.
Also, some goodies:
http://tylerwatt12.com/XDA/ics/gallery/
Build 1A below, current build is build 2B see forum for download link
New version
What works:
WiFi
SD Card
Touchscreen
Hardware Acceleration(most)
Camera (After first FC)
Home, search and back buttons (not menu button)
Headphone and ext spk. sound
3G Text, MMS
What doesn't:
(Some ICS lib's had to be replace with GB lib's. So it's not exactly a clone of the SDK build (still great work though)
NFC no worky
I'm being told Calls dont work
Tap to share
some ICS features are left out.
Ill explain things a bit better here:
With any android release (Not including Honeycomb) the software release goes as follows:
Android develops the Android Version
A PR is made on the subject usually including a new device that will run the software
Between the announcement and release of the phone the SDK is released for that new version of Android
A Dev takes apart the SDK version of the rom and starts porting things over.
SDK builds don't usually work as an every-day phone, just something to play around with.
Sometime after the phone is released Source Code for the Android Version is released in which dev's will be able to make awesome ROM's that work well
(Fastest source release to rom build is about 1 hour) So you can expect that after Source is released Dev's will get a working ROM within hours.
... Weeks/Months Later..
Samsung releases ROM's to Carriers for OTA Updates.
Correct me if i'm wrong in any part here guys
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I would just like to let you guys know (If you havent been in General Lately.) that some devs at Androidcentral are working on an ICS rom built from Source
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Hey, just wanted to clarify, the ROM is not built from source but ported from the released 4.0 SDK.
I read earlier that its a sdk port and not source code. Is there a quick explanation regarding the difference between the two.
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info[]box1 said:
I read earlier that its a sdk port and not source code. Is there a quick explanation regarding the difference between the two.
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Whoops, typo. I meant SDK..
info[]box1 said:
I read earlier that its a sdk port and not source code. Is there a quick explanation regarding the difference between the two.
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Source code is just that, source. The actual source used to compile android. The android SDK is a tool released for emulators allowing you to emulate the os on your computer, for example. These ports are ported from that emulator while roms you see around here are built from source for your device.
looks like the thread may have been shut down, or maybe thats just my account on android central since i joined since the ICS port a few days ago?
please let me know if its just me or everyone.
thanks to beezy over there tho hes putting up some serious time n effort!
samsonite.ace said:
looks like the thread may have been shut down, or maybe thats just my account on android central since i joined since the ICS port a few days ago?
please let me know if its just me or everyone.
thanks to beezy over there tho hes putting up some serious time n effort!
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Where it said that one thing with you not having permission to view the page? Same thing happened to me
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Where it said that one thing with you not having permission to view the page? Same thing happened to me
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Back up and running but still with the 1 bravo verstion
I've used it and it's okay and a little fun. You'll quickly go back to whatever you were running before. But ROM or not, you'll want to have the official update if you own a Nexus device anyways.
Did u guys see the nexus one video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyPeT-ZUbBw&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Esteway.619 said:
Did u guys see the nexus one video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyPeT-ZUbBw&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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As cool as these ports are, they'll never have full use out of them being a SDK. I wish the launch of IC was sooner as far as updating. Waiting until the 10th for the Galaxy Nexus to come out was a little bit of a wait. A week or two after it was announced would have been reasonable.
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Esteway.619 said:
Did u guys see the nexus one video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyPeT-ZUbBw&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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yeah, it loads, but nothing works yet. You can't even unlock the screen because touch isn't working....the port for NS4g has WAY more working features.
hp420 said:
yeah, it loads, but nothing works yet. You can't even unlock the screen because touch isn't working....the port for NS4g has WAY more working features.
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nexus one has touchscreen completely working.. ns4g still has the two finger sketchy touchscreen.
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nexus one has touchscreen completely working.. ns4g still has the two finger sketchy touchscreen.
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Ya that why I put the video. There port looks much better than ours. Why!!!!! Lol
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In order to get touchscreen working you guys need an own .idc file in /usr/idc that is calibrated to the device.
Best wishes,
Tim
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In order to get touchscreen working you guys need an own .idc file in /usr/idc that is calibrated to the device.
Best wishes,
Tim
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i just zipped this up testing now.
thanks!
Go team go
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for those looking for news, he said he has the touch working and will be opsting an update soon that has working touch.
and for this first (and soon to be old) release, it still thinks its working as an emulator on a computer. thats why 2 fingers is clicking and one finger is just tracking kinda like a mouse.
and keep it to the NS4g tho for convo, other threads are popping up like crzy for phones.
thanks and hope i helped for the news =D
samsonite.ace said:
for those looking for news, he said he has the touch working and will be opsting an update soon that has working touch.
and for this first (and soon to be old) release, it still thinks its working as an emulator on a computer. thats why 2 fingers is clicking and one finger is just tracking kinda like a mouse.
and keep it to the NS4g tho for convo, other threads are popping up like crzy for phones.
thanks and hope i helped for the news =D
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Cool thanks for the update. Can't wait for it to be stable.
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thedudejdog said:
i just zipped this up testing now.
thanks!
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Nice, if you get it working can you upload the zip file for us to try?

Ubuntu Phone OS on N7000

Hey folks, I'm keen to start work porting the gnexus image for Ubuntu to the N7000 when it's released later this week. Is anyone else keen to join this effort?
While very familiar with the linux commandline, servers, desktop linux, and flashing my phone, I haven't compiled much code before and am unsure where to start. I would appreciate any advice you might have.
Looking forward to getting this os running on our original notes.
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I would love to see some support here. Push!
I'm presuming you're going to need to build an unbuntu compatible kernel for the note, mobile devices don't tend to work in the same way as desktops, so the pretty much universal kernel model used on the desktops don't work too well here. (size being the major consideration).
Not really looked into what they are doing, I'm presuming they will release source under gpl, so at least you will be able to diff a standard gnex build and the ubuntu. You can then use that as a basis to rebuild for the note.
"Porting" an image if that's all they release is going to end up quite messy.
EDIT according to techradar they will release source http://www.techradar.com/news/softw...galaxy-nexus-nexus-4-coming-next-week-1131567
But doesn't it run on android kernel without any modifications?
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Makrilli said:
But doesn't it run on android kernel without any modifications?
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You think every android phone runs on the same kernel? Think again.
It's always a possible that they will use an Android kernel for the gnexus or n4 builds, but it's unlikely, as Android has some features that don't play too nicely with a mainstream Linux build.
Not seen this yet, nor code for it, so can't say exactly what they are doing yet.
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See what happens when it comes out then, but would seem from the information Canonical is presenting that they are using standard android kernels. Will be interesting to see.
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chasmodo said:
You think every android phone runs on the same kernel? Think again.
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Well i'm sorry if you understood my post like that. Of course not I'm not just that good in english :/
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ruuudolf said:
I would love to see some support here. Push!
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Ditto!
Zobbster said:
Ditto!
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Tritto (thats definitely not a word)
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Tritto (thats definitely not a word)
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I don't know what do i call it after that, but it's me!
If someone needs a fearless beta tester, here I am
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting thats the official porting guide, but im sorry for not beiing capable of making a port of that
so if anyone would do it ii would be awesome
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You think every android phone runs on the same kernel? Think again.
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Yes, but what he say is that Ubuntu runs from Android Kernel. The CyanogenMod 10.1 kernel. And as we have CM 10.1 on note, the kernel is not a problem
Yep, definitely looks doable now. Love cyanogenmod and ubuntu.
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Yeah the guide makes it very simple, just follow the instructions
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It's been ported to the SGS3 so provided a developer picks it up for the N7000 i can't imagine it's far off:
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/02/ubuntu-phone-up-running-on-samsung-galaxy-s3
Mods, can you please create a section in the N7000 forums for Ubuntu phone os? Thanks.
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tillum said:
Mods, can you please create a section in the N7000 forums for Ubuntu phone os? Thanks.
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Is that really necessary for 1 thread?
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Well... There is actually just 1 thread but in (near?) future there will be more threads for mods, roms etcpp and so they would get lost between the android threads... But I think we have time till the first port appears...
But count me in for beta! Would be pretty awesome seeing Ubuntu 4 Phones on our beloved GNote!

Ubuntu will run on S3 Mini

Here is the thread for the requirements and we meet them with a dual core 1Ghz Cortex A9 and 1Gb of ram (min is 500+Mb ram) All we need now is someone to port it onto our device.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37461186
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CaseyS said:
Here is the thread for the requirements and we meet them with a dual core 1Ghz Cortex A9 and 1Gb of ram (min is 500+Mb ram) All we need now is someone to port it onto our device. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=
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Gave invaild link, wierd lol
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Hmm okay hold on. Okay link works now.
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CaseyS said:
Here is the thread for the requirements and we meet them with a dual core 1Ghz Cortex A9 and 1Gb of ram (min is 500+Mb ram) All we need now is someone to port it onto our device.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37461186
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Hi,
As a required prerequisite, CM 10.1 has to be ported over the device, because Ubuntu is built on top of it. As of now there are several aspects that need further work, you can check out OliverG96's device tree on github and give it a try. Most pressing would be sound and calls/sms/data, iirc
Hi there, i have been reading a bit about the new Ubuntu touch OS, and seems quite interesting. I just have one question, is Ubuntu for android the same as Ubuntu touch?
And will running ubuntu on the phone solve the sound lag issues found in most android game emulators?
Thanks in advance.
will s3 mini i8190 take ubuntu os
Because i do not understand , is it possible that s3 mini take the new operating system ubuntu os ? I really want to buy that phone , but i also search a phone that will take ubuntu os. Thank you
Well as it states we have the correct hardware requirements to run Ubuntu OS but we need a good developer to port it to our device.
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CaseyS said:
Well as it states we have the correct hardware requirements to run Ubuntu OS but we need a good developer to port it to our device.
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Great. This is fantastic. I really hope that one can port it to that device. If one developer start working on it , is there any post that will informe us ? Or just these one ? Thank you very much
The link doesn't work again.
Okay. Just search Ubuntu OS
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Guys what's going on? Will Ubuntu run on our phone? Now there is cm for our phone...
No, it won't, due to no copybit source.
So pity... Anyway cm is enough!
Fair enough.
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Why would you even want a cyanogenmod rom with an ubuntu theme?
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DeHuMaNiZeD said:
Why would you even want a cyanogenmod rom with an ubuntu theme?
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Everyone have their own taste
Ubuntu is more like a pc I think. And cm is like Android. Am i wrong?
lefterios said:
Ubuntu is more like a pc I think. And cm is like Android. Am i wrong?
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Ubuntu is for pc but the team is making one for mobile devices called Ubuntu Touch
I'm talking about the Ubuntu touch. I watched in a yt video that it has a Desktop like a computer and you could use programs. Is it true?
We're not talking about a theme but an OS
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Ubuntu Touch for the TF300 - Possibly a BOUNTY?

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install?action=show&redirect=TouchInstallProcess
I would happily throw any dev 20 bucks that could get this going, looks really interesting. Anyone else interested in this yet?
I'd be interested as well
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That would be really awsome!
don't know 'bout 20 but 10 for sure, 100%
I am currently working on this I will report back soon
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keeganmccallum said:
I am currently working on this I will report back soon
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Good luck
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keeganmccallum said:
I am currently working on this I will report back soon
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Also working on it. Can boot fine and get in via adb, but screen stays black.
Are you interested in joining efforts? Please feel free to PM me, if you are.
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You guys working on a dual boot method or a port replacing android?
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You guys working on a dual boot method or a port replacing android?
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Well, one step at a time. First get it to work, then dual boot is the next step.
Finally, it might be possible to run them "together", for example running CM apps in Ubuntu Touch.
I mean by transforming the base Android system into a fully-fledged CM and connect it up to Ubuntu.
Not sure that is feasible yet, but there might be a chance. And it is sure a while down the road.
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I don't think that's possible because none of the Java code is in Ubuntu mobile.
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I don't think that's possible because none of the Java code is in Ubuntu mobile.
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Well, not now. Once we have achieved dual boot, all the Java code will be back there.
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Really disappointed that it's only a "skin" on top of CM10.1, proper ubuntu is what we need, to actually run linux apps but still, every advancement is positive but I'm not interested in another android port, I like jelly bean as it is, AOSP ftw.
crossmission said:
Really disappointed that it's only a "skin" on top of CM10.1, proper ubuntu is what we need, to actually run linux apps but still, every advancement is positive but I'm not interested in another android port, I like jelly bean as it is, AOSP ftw.
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It's not running on top of CM10.1 is running on top of the CM10.1 kernel (and some drivers for the hardware) and I wouldn't say it's fair to call that a "skin". That's like calling every linux distro a linux skin.
true, my frasing is wrong but it doesn't change the fact that it's not capable of running linux apps, it's just another take on android, and on a tablet such as this I'd love to be able to dual-boot into android/linux, let's see where archlinux will take us but with the way things are changing and people upgrading to newer devices this will be left behind as well eventually, and to think that since the first quad core device a year ago today we call the tegra 3 a low-powered chipset compared to the powerhouses coming out, and people still don't have a quad core cpu at their home pcs and laptops, anyway, offtopic, let's see...
as far as I heard from many different people now it is just something to show the skin as main features like wallpaper, rotation and others aren't working yet although they should... Basically I would prefer a dualboot solution with stock ubuntu and android, but just my personal opinion...

Ubuntu touch - device list

Which devices are supported
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https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
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Thank you, but my device is not listed. maybe wait some time.
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Great to see that HTC Pyramid support is in progress. I was pending to change my device until I updated from android 4.0.0 to 4.4.2, the phone became twice faster and I supose that with ubuntu it will be faster yet. Thanks a lot for the info.
It'll be great to have ubuntu
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It'll be great to have ubuntu
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Well it would, don't get me wrong, I'd love to try it ... Buuuuut, I'm not sure if I would leave stock android behind
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Well it would, don't get me wrong, I'd love to try it ... Buuuuut, I'm not sure if I would leave stock android behind
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I would leave android behind If there is a way to run android apps at full performance on Ubuntu Touch. Otherwise, I'll dual boot.
Ubuntu os
Does Ubuntu os run on wave 2 (GT-8530)?
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Does Ubuntu os run on wave 2 (GT-8530)?
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I don't think anyone has ported UT to a Bada device... And they are asking for dual core as a minimum.
Is n7100 supported?
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I'm using chinese made android phone.. wondering if it can use ubuntu too
What about the software condition?
Guys how about Xolo X1000. Does Ubuntu dual boot is supported in this device, 'am a previous fare Ubuntu user and I want it on my phone too, is it possible on my phone or should I switch to another smartphone,
Please help Guys...
Thanx..
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Vishal Vic said:
Guys how about Xolo X1000. Does Ubuntu dual boot is supported in this device, 'am a previous fare Ubuntu user and I want it on my phone too, is it possible on my phone or should I switch to another smartphone,
Please help Guys...
Thanx..
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I don't know your phone but there is a solution that is supposed to work on every phone with Android img files available. I haven't tried it yet. Try it on your own risk! I won't be responsible for any bricks! (I recommend searching the internet about that first.) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2651425
I would suggest a phone with good UT support though. Nexus 4 for example. We don't know how long it will be supported though. They might switch to the newer Nexus 5.
My phone specification is 2 Ghz Intel atom processor with HT 1gb of ram and Power vr sgx544 GPU 400Mhz 8 GB internal memory 5bg user available, is this spec is supported by Ubuntu touch?
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Vishal Vic said:
My phone specification is 2 Ghz Intel atom processor with HT 1gb of ram and Power vr sgx544 GPU 400Mhz 8 GB internal memory 5bg user available, is this spec is supported by Ubuntu touch?
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Have a look at this for minimum requirements: http://www.ubuntu.com/phone/operators-and-oems
not work to sony xperia divace?
I hope Xperia m supported Ubuntu
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it says the note 2 is supprted but only th At&t model # is listed. any ports to sprint? (i'll check as well, but i need 10 posts to ask in developer spots sadly)
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yeah nvm. found it. it's still non-sprint. but there is a spot on the ubuntu website telling people how to port it, i know very little coding but i'll see if i can make heads or tails of it
Actually, a port was started here. It seems he barely got it up and running, not wanting to do any further optimization until Ubuntu Touch was further along. It appears there hasn't been much developement for quite a while. I hope development returns for the Wave I&II, but I suspect the hardware just won't be up to the task.

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