Hi. So I want to root my Nexus 7 but I've found mixed answers to this question. I was going to use this toolkit I found here.
When I root, will my apps and data (pictures and app data) be saved or can I save them? I use apps like Notes Lite and have games with data. So is there a way to backup all that data? I know there's the backup option in the toolkit but will it backup everything?
You will lose your userdata when you unlock the bootloader during rooting. You can try backing up those data using the Google Nexus 7 Toolkit before rooting, or by enabling Google's Cloud backup and restore, but don't count on getting it all restored flawlessly.
exglynco said:
You will lose your userdata when you unlock the bootloader during rooting. You can try backing up those data using the Google Nexus 7 Toolkit before rooting, or by enabling Google's Cloud backup and restore, but don't count on getting it all restored flawlessly.
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So what's the best way to save my data? I mainly have pictures, no music, and then the rest is app data like for MC4, Asphalt 6, and Real Racing 3. The rest I'm not terribly concerned about. I also just don't want to install my 100 apps back on individually. Pictures, I can just put on my laptop.
So is there a way to get all my apps back on without installing them again individually? Will the toolkit backup do that for me?
Titanium backup will do it, but you have to be rooted to use it, and you aren't yet.
Mark Skippen's Google Nexus 7 Toolkit should do it, since it backs up your userdata. I say should, because I haven't used that feature, since I've always been rooted, with Nandroid backups and Titanium backups. Also, that toolkit doesn't support Android 4.3 installing or rooting yet. He'll have to upgrade the SuperSU and Superuser managers he's currently using, to versions compatible with 4.3.
I didn't have to reinstall my 100 apps after upgrading, but I lost my game high score files. I had a Titanium backup, but so many apps were out of date, it was useless. I relied on Google's Cloud backup to restore my apps after upgrading to 4.3.
Ok i found an app called Helium to backup my app data. I'll just put my pictures on my laptop.
So i just realized at the same time read that you said the toolkit didnt support 4.3 yet and i had just updated to 4.3 this morning. Is there a way to go back to 4.2?
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Nexus 7, rooted, back to OEM/Stock~~factory, prior to rooting, read all available documentation regarding backups, said everything was on Google "cloud".....now that I am OEM w/root, how do I get back everything I setup installed and configured for the last week?
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Nexus 7, rooted, back to OEM/Stock~~factory, prior to rooting, read all available documentation regarding backups, said everything was on Google "cloud".....now that I am OEM w/root, how do I get back everything I setup installed and configured for the last week?
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If I understand the process correctly - it saves settings regarding Google services. That is apps such as Currents, Play Store, Google Now, etc. It shouldn't backup things such as random app data (IE Angry Birds) - you'll need to use a third party app such as Titanium Backup or App2Zip. For a full system image of apps/settings you'll have to do a nandroid backup through a recovery program (IE ClockworkMod).
Hope that cleared things up a bit. You're gonna be SOL for most of your stuff for this time, but for next time just make sure to double and triple check everything because backups make the going-to-stock process so much nice
Mine did it as soon as I signed into my account on setup.
Some apps had to be installed again from My apps at Google play but the data also was there after they installed. I had some list and such from a notepad app and they were replaced with the app.
So then, the preferred application-procedure is?
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Mine did it as soon as I signed into my account on setup.
Some apps had to be installed again from My apps at Google play but the data also was there after they installed. I had some list and such from a notepad app and they were replaced with the app.
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So then, to be clear, to have a similar procedure, like iPad/iPhone syncing, there is nothing "built in", and 3rd party applications need to be purchased or obtained free.......so what is the clear winner (easiest, best, most preferred)?
So which process?
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So then, to be clear, to have a similar procedure, like iPad/iPhone syncing, there is nothing "built in", and 3rd party applications need to be purchased or obtained free.......so what is the clear winner (easiest, best, most preferred)?
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Maybe not clear. I already did my N7 and was lost. Wife has hers all tweaked, wants me to root. I just want to restore exactly like an iPad so nothing is lost. Preferred method being search foe. Would like advice.
guruuno said:
So then, to be clear, to have a similar procedure, like iPad/iPhone syncing, there is nothing "built in", and 3rd party applications need to be purchased or obtained free.......so what is the clear winner (easiest, best, most preferred)?
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Google Play can redownload the apps you previously got from them. It will also sync certain (but probably not all) settings, wifi passwords, etc. However, the process of downloading takes around 30-60m and usually app data is not part of this sync.
This, I prefer to use titanium backup to backup all user apps and data (as a rule of thumb, you generally don't want to do the same for system apps/data). The backup is stored on your sd card (so, for example, after wiping data you can restore all your apps within around 15m, asynchronously) and you can also have it backed up to the cloud. Tit backup requires root and the pro version costs around $7.
You can use it to backup system data (your settings and all that) but this is a bad idea when you use custom roms. I usually restore my apps and set the rest manually, the whole process takes around 20m.
I don't know how well itunes backs up app data, so I can't answer the comparison question.
Unlocking is what wipes the data, not rooting. You are already past the point of no return as the restore info you get back from google does not deal with a lot of app data. You could have before unlocking, done a process which would have saved it, but it is not a normal process and certainly not automatic.
you are past that however already.
Now you are rooted, you can use Titanium Backup to do a real backup and you can also do a nandroid backup using Recovery so you don't have to deal with this in the future.
HOWEVER, just doing those backups doesn't guarrantee you can access them if your device is lost/stolen or damage beyond repair. So you need to come up with a method to copy those backup files occasionally to workstation off from time to time so, you have something to restore.
Then if you have to setup a new device, you can unlock, root, load TB, copy the backup files to the device and then restore the system back to where it was when you did the last backup.
guruuno said:
Maybe not clear. I already did my N7 and was lost. Wife has hers all tweaked, wants me to root. I just want to restore exactly like an iPad so nothing is lost. Preferred method being search foe. Would like advice.
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You need root (and an app like Titanium Backup) to back up your app data, and you need to have an unlocked bootloader to root. If you didn't already unlock the bootloader on the Nexus 7, then there's nothing you can do to back up all your app data because unlocking the bootloader essentially resets the device. Without a backup program, the most you can do is sync your device with Google Play and have it reinstall your missing apps after you wipe your device (but it won't restore your app data).
But......
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You need root (and an app like Titanium Backup) to back up your app data, and you need to have an unlocked bootloader to root. If you didn't already unlock the bootloader on the Nexus 7, then there's nothing you can do to back up all your app data because unlocking the bootloader essentially resets the device. Without a backup program, the most you can do is sync your device with Google Play and have it reinstall your missing apps after you wipe your device (but it won't restore your app data).
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But I did "root", and I did lose all my data, like it was OEM out of the box, but rooted....
Unlocking? Why would I 'unlock'? If I only want to use USB memory stick isn't rooting all I want?
Therefore, I'd get which program to root only to preserve everything.
The confusing part is "You need root (and an app like Titanium Backup) to back up your app data"
How can I have Titanium if I don't root, and if I root, I lose everything?
(or did I maybe also unlock mine..... I'm really confused, all I want is a 1-2-3 root app to install the Stick Mount. Period)
Thanks again for the replies, I'm hopefully getting this Android stuff
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Unlocking? Why would I 'unlock'? If I only want to use USB memory stick isn't rooting all I want?
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You need to unlock in order to root (though you can relock it after if you want, I wouldn't recommend it in case you need to do so again) and flash stuff.
If you didn't relock it from earlier (i.e. if you still have that "unlocked" symbol on boot), you'll be able to root again just by flashing the superuser program.
guruuno said:
The confusing part is "You need root (and an app like Titanium Backup) to back up your app data"
How can I have Titanium if I don't root, and if I root unlock, I lose everything?
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Wug's root toolkit has a backup/restore option.
In general, however, the answer is yes. You are not able to (at least without expertise) backup data from prior to your first unlock. That's why it's recommended to unlock your device asap if you decide to do so.
(The OEMs wipe everything upon unlock for security reasons - the only way to get around this is to use an exploit rather than the "fastboot oem unlock" command, but the discovery of such exploits is unpredictable.)
OK, here I go
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You need to unlock in order to root (though you can relock it after if you want, I wouldn't recommend it in case you need to do so again) and flash stuff.
If you didn't relock it from earlier (i.e. if you still have that "unlocked" symbol on boot), you'll be able to root again just by flashing the superuser program.
Wug's root toolkit has a backup/restore option.
In general, however, the answer is yes. You are not able to (at least without expertise) backup data from prior to your first unlock. That's why it's recommended to unlock your device asap if you decide to do so.
(The OEMs wipe everything upon unlock for security reasons - the only way to get around this is to use an exploit rather than the "fastboot oem unlock" command, but the discovery of such exploits is unpredictable.)
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Thanks for the attention to detail, I appreciate it.
I just install cm10 and I noticed that the settings such as wifi passwords etc have not been restored. Any ideas on how to restore them? I'd post on their thread but they don't have one for the N7 and I still don't have the privileges.
So i was wondering if anyone has ever needed to back up all there apps to a location other then there phone/tablet. it would be cloud storage i would think. reason is i need to backup all my apps and have then to be restored apon receiving replacement nexus. I herd sandisk memory zone? thanks.
MyBackup Pro has an option to backup to online storage and restore. I'm not sure if the free version has that option but I know the paid version does.
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I use the following process to ensure I can restore my whole device to a brand new unit if necessary.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29550640
I use my workstation rather than a Cloud for a Number of reasons. The best being that the workstation has a triple redundant backup, and if I really need access to it remotely I already have that ability.
I used this to create a restorable copy of a completely setup device to a brand new unit successfully already.
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I create the same functionality with Dropsync. It basically lets Dropbox function the same on your tab as your computer. I run my backups with TiBu in the early morning, and although syncing can be slow, it easily finishes before I get up. I was already using Dropbox so this was the most convenient solution for me.
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I forgot to mention that i would like an option to do an entire backup without having to root first. From my understanding rooting it would wipe user data? so then there would be no point lol
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I forgot to mention that i would like an option to do an entire backup without having to root first. From my understanding rooting it would wipe user data? so then there would be no point lol
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Rooting doesn't wipe the data, Unlocking the Bootloader does. Why unlocking should be done before doing a lot of work.
You can use adb to do a backup of your system, but none of the other things I talked about will work. No point in moving it to a cyberlocker since it will already be on your computer/workstation.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1420351
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I create the same functionality with Dropsync. It basically lets Dropbox function the same on your tab as your computer. I run my backups with TiBu in the early morning, and although syncing can be slow, it easily finishes before I get up. I was already using Dropbox so this was the most convenient solution for me.
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While TB is something that I do and end up with a copy in my backup system, it is not what I use to restore to a new device. Instead I use the Nandroid Backup (created with TWRP). Much much faster and more complete. Only need to move over the Nandroid backup files after you have unlocked the new device and rooted, and put the recovery on the device. Then simply do a restore in recovery wipe Davik and Cache and you are right back where you were with the other device.
The sync to the workstation via the Cheetah Sync is much faster than syncing to dropbox and I am backing up more than just the TB files for a more useful backup.
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So i was wondering if anyone has ever needed to back up all there apps to a location other then there phone/tablet. it would be cloud storage i would think. reason is i need to backup all my apps and have then to be restored apon receiving replacement nexus. I herd sandisk memory zone? thanks.
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TitaniumBackup+ has support for backing up to Dropbox, Box, and Google Drive.
I use App Backup & Restore to backup every app I install (automatically), then Dropspace to push it to my Dropbox (automatically). Then I relax with a cappuccino and carrot cake.
Want to transfer settings, profile and everything possible from old 8GB Nexus 7 to my new 16GB Nexus 7. Not rooted. Original OS. Not sure I ever backed anything up yet into cloud. Definitely have not backed up to my pc. Have AmazonData, Google Data and Dropbox Cloud. How to I back up everything possible. The apps I already bought I assume I just reinstall from Google Play store. Any way paid apps can be restored from any backup? Thanks
Titanium backup can restore your apps and app data, it might be able to restore some of your setting too. They should stay linked to the market.
You could move the backup files to online or just to your computer. As long as they go in the same directory in the new one, as they came out of the old one, titanium backup will be able to restore them.
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Titanium backup can restore your apps and app data, it might be able to restore some of your setting too. They should stay linked to the market.
You could move the backup files to online or just to your computer. As long as they go in the same directory in the new one, as they came out of the old one, titanium backup will be able to restore them.
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OK, thanks. I did buy Titanium backup, but unfortunately I did not get super user or root my 8GB Nexus 7. Installing Titanium backup on my new 16 GB Nexus as well as getting superuser will be my first priority.
Your post did give me more confidence in using both my computer and using Google Cloud backup. When I checked my settings I saw that I had checked "back up my data" and automatic restore it, and also had my main Google email account set as the "back up account."
I will back up the 8 GB to both. However, I am still uncertain whether I can automatically restore my settings and profile and passwords from the 8GB Nexus back up onto my new 16 GB Nexus.
No worries mate, just glad I could help. Yeah, you did the right thing with the back up my data. It should restore at least some of your setting. (Not been able to test this feature yet, not got another N7 yet )
(Would love to use the online backup feature in TB, but upload on my internet is useless. Only get about 50kbps....)
Personally, I think it's best if it doesn't save passwords. I'm always suspicious about these type of things......
Definitely unlock and root first. You can always re lock and un root if you need to send it back for any reason. Besides, it's always nice to have a little more freedom. Just so you know, OTA Root Keeper will keep root if you do OTA updates, just learn how to use it first.
Good luck with transferring your setting over, can't see it taking long. It's always nice to use a new piece of tech anyway, no matter what your doing
Hi, I have a Nexus 4 and it is not rooted.
I want to root it, the problem:
I have many apps and emails accounts configured and dont want to make the whole procedure again.
I know that, if I root, will loose all my data.
Is there any way to make it like this:
1. backup all my configurations and apps
2. root
3. restore, and all will be working?
Download the ToolKit and do an ADB Backup.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1420351
Follow the guide. First time I used it... I made a few backups with different configs incase I needed to put it on different phones.
Works like a charm
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Download the ToolKit and do an ADB Backup.
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Don't use a toolkit. Figure it out on how to do it on your own because when something is wrong with your phone a toolkit won't fix your problem because op doesn't know how fast boot flash work
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If you use ADB BACKUP or a toolkit that uses it, be prepared. Some apps will likely NOT be backed up. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35270239#post35270239
I agrree, though, you're better off if you can do it without using a toolkit.
I use the app DataSync to backup app data to dropbox. Once you have the phone setup again and the apps downloaded you just sync it with your DataSync files in your dropbox account and the data will be restored. I would not try and sync system apps just user apps.
Unfortunately there currently is no way to root without unlocking the bootloader.
What's the best way to move apps and data from n5 L to 6p M? Can we just move the Titanium BU folder to the new device and restore data? Google doesn't restore apps and data from Amazon, and seems to miss some other game data. Just restore Titanium app with Google restore? Or does nfc work with all apps and data (never tried it)?
Not sure what spell check did to the title, supposed to be "Back up data".
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Titanium backup will do the trick, I've found. There are plenty of guides on how to do this. (Seems like you are familiar w/ it though.) http://bfy.tw/29yY
I usually make backups of only the apps I'm concerned about, plus a keyboard.apk I like, plus Amazon stuffs...
Then copy the folder into the SD card area of the new device.
Install TB from Play store on new phone.
Remove apps I'll be restoring, because they auto-installed, and it's kind of annoying but whatever.
Point TB to the folder I copied over, and restore one at a time. I've had some apps go sideways on a batch restore, but I don't know if it was the batch restore or the backup itself which caused the issue. Either way, I do one at a time now.
Enjoy.
More tips:
The First rule of TB is you never restore system apps.
The Second rule of TB is you NEVER restore system apps.
III Commandment : Thou shalt restoreth system apps never, or thy soul shall burn in heck.
If an app you plan on restoring DID NOT AUTO-GOOGLE-RESTORE-thingy during setup, it's a big tip it might not be compatible in some way in your new OS version / device. Go to Play store and check.
Games and other apps that already backup to the cloud - skip those, or at least don't restore them until you install from Play store normally and see how they recover. If they recover fine, then great.
Restore a small # of apps at a time, and test them all.