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Backup apps to cloud?

So i was wondering if anyone has ever needed to back up all there apps to a location other then there phone/tablet. it would be cloud storage i would think. reason is i need to backup all my apps and have then to be restored apon receiving replacement nexus. I herd sandisk memory zone? thanks.

MyBackup Pro has an option to backup to online storage and restore. I'm not sure if the free version has that option but I know the paid version does.
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I use the following process to ensure I can restore my whole device to a brand new unit if necessary.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29550640
I use my workstation rather than a Cloud for a Number of reasons. The best being that the workstation has a triple redundant backup, and if I really need access to it remotely I already have that ability.
I used this to create a restorable copy of a completely setup device to a brand new unit successfully already.
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I create the same functionality with Dropsync. It basically lets Dropbox function the same on your tab as your computer. I run my backups with TiBu in the early morning, and although syncing can be slow, it easily finishes before I get up. I was already using Dropbox so this was the most convenient solution for me.
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I forgot to mention that i would like an option to do an entire backup without having to root first. From my understanding rooting it would wipe user data? so then there would be no point lol

Sofwhitewolf said:
I forgot to mention that i would like an option to do an entire backup without having to root first. From my understanding rooting it would wipe user data? so then there would be no point lol
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Rooting doesn't wipe the data, Unlocking the Bootloader does. Why unlocking should be done before doing a lot of work.
You can use adb to do a backup of your system, but none of the other things I talked about will work. No point in moving it to a cyberlocker since it will already be on your computer/workstation.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1420351
spottedcatfish said:
I create the same functionality with Dropsync. It basically lets Dropbox function the same on your tab as your computer. I run my backups with TiBu in the early morning, and although syncing can be slow, it easily finishes before I get up. I was already using Dropbox so this was the most convenient solution for me.
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While TB is something that I do and end up with a copy in my backup system, it is not what I use to restore to a new device. Instead I use the Nandroid Backup (created with TWRP). Much much faster and more complete. Only need to move over the Nandroid backup files after you have unlocked the new device and rooted, and put the recovery on the device. Then simply do a restore in recovery wipe Davik and Cache and you are right back where you were with the other device.
The sync to the workstation via the Cheetah Sync is much faster than syncing to dropbox and I am backing up more than just the TB files for a more useful backup.

Sofwhitewolf said:
So i was wondering if anyone has ever needed to back up all there apps to a location other then there phone/tablet. it would be cloud storage i would think. reason is i need to backup all my apps and have then to be restored apon receiving replacement nexus. I herd sandisk memory zone? thanks.
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TitaniumBackup+ has support for backing up to Dropbox, Box, and Google Drive.

I use App Backup & Restore to backup every app I install (automatically), then Dropspace to push it to my Dropbox (automatically). Then I relax with a cappuccino and carrot cake.

[Q] Titanium Backup: why create new APKs of the same version when updating data?

So basically I needed an an APK for an older version of an app and it had already been overwritten. I allow 3 copies of backups with TiBu but my scheduled "redo backups for modified data" overwrites them quite often. I end up with 3 backups of the same app but they're all for the same version. The old version gets deleted because my scheduled "redo backups with modified data" detects new data and then does a new backup.
I wish it would only update the data and not the APK? What's the point of constantly updating the APK for an app when the version is still the same.
Yes, I want it to constantly update the data so I have the latest backup all the time, but it would be nice if it could do that and always save the last 2-3 APK versions as well...
Am I totally missing something here is it just the way it works for now? Thanks for any help!

jeffreii said:
So basically I needed an an APK for an older version of an app and it had already been overwritten. I allow 3 copies of backups with TiBu but my scheduled "redo backups for modified data" overwrites them quite often. I end up with 3 backups of the same app but they're all for the same version. The old version gets deleted because my scheduled "redo backups with modified data" detects new data and then does a new backup.
I wish it would only update the data and not the APK? What's the point of constantly updating the APK for an app when the version is still the same.
Yes, I want it to constantly update the data so I have the latest backup all the time, but it would be nice if it could do that and always save the last 2-3 APK versions as well...
Am I totally missing something here is it just the way it works for now? Thanks for any help!
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There is an option to update 'app only', 'app + data', 'data only'.
Do you have an old Nandroid with the older version of the app available? If so just go into your Nandroid backup and pull out that APK.

blyndfyre said:
There is an option to update 'app only', 'app + data', 'data only'.
Do you have an old Nandroid with the older version of the app available? If so just go into your Nandroid backup and pull out that APK.
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Hi and thanks for the response!
Can you please tell me where you see that option? I've seen those options when restoring backups...it lets you pick what to restore...but I can't seem to find an option like that for backups...
Thanks again.

jeffreii said:
Hi and thanks for the response!
Can you please tell me where you see that option? I've seen those options when restoring backups...it lets you pick what to restore...but I can't seem to find an option like that for backups...
Thanks again.
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Maybe I'm mistaken and the Titanium Backup Script will not allow that. Did you have the old APK in an old Nandroid backup?
You can try either of these apps from the Play Store. They both allow you to back up data only:
My Backup
DataSync

blyndfyre said:
Maybe I'm mistaken and the Titanium Backup Script will not allow that. Did you have the old APK in an old Nandroid backup?/... DataSync
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Good Recommendation! there often are older versions of the app in nandroid backups, and TIBU will allow restore from Nandroid backups. :angel:
1. Go to the Main Menu
2. Scroll down to the Special Backup/Restore Menu (5th topic down)
3. select "EXTRACT FROM NANDROID BACKUP"
4. you will get a listing of all your nandroid backups and you can chose the one you want to take the app from.
5. It will take a bit to analyze the Nandroid and present you with the files menu.
6. Choose the file(s) you need to restore and do it!
jeffreii: So basically I needed an an APK for an older version of an app and it had already been overwritten.
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#1. Since you may have already "lost" the old version of the app because it has been updated, then to find an oilder version you could check some of the other app stores that frequently offer older versions of apps -some app stores have a listing of ALL versions of (some) apps! . . . so you can check them and see if you can find the older version --or even email the author of the app...:cyclops:
#2. Once you get your old app back, one option is to make a copy of the "good version" of that app from your apps directory and place it on your SD card or a data directory and keep overwriting the "new" app when the author publishes a new version.:good: :good:
#3. Also, once you get you app back (hopefully!) It sounds to me like you should turn off PLAY STORE AUTOMATIC UPDATING for this app. You do this once and then allow selective apps to auto update -but not allow global updating of apps. SO manually permit or don't permit updates depending upon the app (I do that with my Kindle Fire HD, since play wants to update the Amazon store -but that breaks the built in Kindle store, so I don't allow that app to update automatically).
Good Luck!

blyndfyre said:
Maybe I'm mistaken and the Titanium Backup Script will not allow that. Did you have the old APK in an old Nandroid backup?
You can try either of these apps from the Play Store. They both allow you to back up data only:
My Backup
DataSync
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I can't find the old APK in my backups (TiBu and Nandroids). I've made another thread to ask for help finding it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2380165
This thread I'd like to get help with TiBu though!
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Good Recommendation! there often are older versions of the app in nandroid backups, and TIBU will allow restore from Nandroid backups. :angel:
1. Go to the Main Menu
2. Scroll down to the Special Backup/Restore Menu (5th topic down)
3. select "EXTRACT FROM NANDROID BACKUP"
4. you will get a listing of all your nandroid backups and you can chose the one you want to take the app from.
5. It will take a bit to analyze the Nandroid and present you with the files menu.
6. Choose the file(s) you need to restore and do it!
jeffreii: So basically I needed an an APK for an older version of an app and it had already been overwritten.
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#1. Since you may have already "lost" the old version of the app because it has been updated, then to find an oilder version you could check some of the other app stores that frequently offer older versions of apps -some app stores have a listing of ALL versions of (some) apps! . . . so you can check them and see if you can find the older version --or even email the author of the app...:cyclops:
#2. Once you get your old app back, one option is to make a copy of the "good version" of that app from your apps directory and place it on your SD card or a data directory and keep overwriting the "new" app when the author publishes a new version.:good: :good:
#3. Also, once you get you app back (hopefully!) It sounds to me like you should turn off PLAY STORE AUTOMATIC UPDATING for this app. You do this once and then allow selective apps to auto update -but not allow global updating of apps. SO manually permit or don't permit updates depending upon the app (I do that with my Kindle Fire HD, since play wants to update the Amazon store -but that breaks the built in Kindle store, so I don't allow that app to update automatically).
Good Luck!
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I checked my old Nandroids/TiBu backups but could not find the APK - did that before making this thread. Trust me I have automatic updating off...I like to read change logs before accepting any updates.
My problem with TiBu is still unaddressed though...even if I allow TiBu to keep, say, 5 backups of each app...if I have a scheduled backup to "redo backups with modified data" and the data is modified in a certain app each time, once that runs 5 times I will have 5 backups of the same version APK along with 5 separate data points.
The 5 separate data points are exactly what you'd want...but if creating 5 APKs of the same version of the app ends up deleting the 6th backup which had the older APK version...what's the point of that? I'm left with 5 identical APKs and the older version, which I actually wanted, got to deleted because TiBu needed to backup the data.
Does that make sense?

markbc01 said:
... The 5 separate data points are exactly what you'd want...but if creating 5 APKs of the same version of the app ends up deleting the 6th backup which had the older APK version...what's the point of that? I'm left with 5 identical APKs and the older version, which I actually wanted, got to deleted because TiBu needed to backup the data. Does that make sense?
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OK, I think I get it. TIBU will backup all copies it sees but it is not "smart enough" to preserve versions per se. (I may be wrong -but that's what I see so far). The six copies you mention are time based vice version based, so it's good logic for what it does. It just does not save based on versions. . . Perhaps that is an option we should ask the developer for! I think the focus of the frequent multiple backups is primarily on data, so it's good , but maybe not enough!
I just checked my own backups. I have max backup history of 5 and those 5 backups are done one by one over a two week period (of course). So I have many copies of each app that are identical --except when changes occur. Most apps right now have 5 identical copies, but for 7Zipper, Handnote and Gmail,(for example) each of them has two versions. I won't lose the "older versions" of these apps for a week or so, but after that they will disappear if I want ot save those older versions, well, I would have to take one of the measures that I mentioned before (copying over to another directory etc.)
I was going to ask -since you turned off auto updates-- how the app got updated, but I have discovered that even when I do that there is the occassional app that updates anyway -because I inadvertently said yes to some prompt, or perhaps the author had some auto update feature that I could not block. . .
Sorry I can't give you a better solution. . .

markbc01 said:
OK, I think I get it. TIBU will backup all copies it sees but it is not "smart enough" to preserve versions per se. (I may be wrong -but that's what I see so far). The six copies you mention are time based vice version based, so it's good logic for what it does. It just does not save based on versions. . . Perhaps that is an option we should ask the developer for! I think the focus of the frequent multiple backups is primarily on data, so it's good , but maybe not enough!
I just checked my own backups. I have max backup history of 5 and those 5 backups are done one by one over a two week period (of course). So I have many copies of each app that are identical --except when changes occur. Most apps right now have 5 identical copies, but for 7Zipper, Handnote and Gmail,(for example) each of them has two versions. I won't lose the "older versions" of these apps for a week or so, but after that they will disappear if I want ot save those older versions, well, I would have to take one of the measures that I mentioned before (copying over to another directory etc.)
I was going to ask -since you turned off auto updates-- how the app got updated, but I have discovered that even when I do that there is the occassional app that updates anyway -because I inadvertently said yes to some prompt, or perhaps the author had some auto update feature that I could not block. . .
Sorry I can't give you a better solution. . .
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It sounds like you get my point now! Basically, TiBu should be smart enough to backup data and app apks as separate items. When I say keep 3 copies, it should look at those separately...keep the 3 last APK versions and keep the 3 last data backups...not combine them and overwrite APK versions just because data got updated too.
What happened was I updated the app two weeks ago and everything was fine...I then switched to Goldeneye 4.0 ROM and the WatchESPN app wouldn't load anymore. I read other people in the Play Store had the same problem...so I am guessing that perhaps it's an international firmware issue...since it still works fine when I switch back to AT&T stock MDL. The second data is that some of those complaining in the Play Store reviews are saying "since the last update, it doesn't load"...so I'm thinking maybe the latest update broke something for international firmware versions...so if I can find the old version that might work...but no way to test it without getting the APK.

Ok, you are right about the apps vs. Data thing exactly for the reasons you mention!
(Btw, I almost decided to try golden eye this weekend, but Shostock2.1 is running so well that I'll just use my phone for a while)..
I did a very quick look at some alternate android app stores on my phone just now, but am surprised that I have not found the watch-espn app...
The only other thing might be if you kept a copy of your sd card on your computer, and that copy might have an old nandroid with the app... that worked for me - when I wanted to restore and use flex t9 and the company had moved on to a swype version I did not like as much...
Good luck (I'll continue to scan for old versions of watchespn when I get on a desktop..)
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markbc01 said:
Ok, you are right about the apps vs. Data thing exactly for the reasons you mention!
(Btw, I almost decided to try golden eye this weekend, but Shostock2.1 is running so well that I'll just use my phone for a while)..
I did a very quick look at some alternate android app stores on my phone just now, but am surprised that I have not found the watch-espn app...
The only other thing might be if you kept a copy of your sd card on your computer, and that copy might have an old nandroid with the app... that worked for me - when I wanted to restore and use flex t9 and the company had moved on to a swype version I did not like as much...
Good luck (I'll continue to scan for old versions of watchespn when I get on a desktop..)
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Thanks! If I hadn't used all 8 of my thanks clicks for the day I'd give you one. First thing tomorrow though!
If you find any leads let me know in my WatchESPN request thread (linked above). It needs to be bumped anyways and I am not supposed to bump it until 24 hours! lol

I'm still surprised I can't find any other threads/discussion about this issue.
I'd really think that one of the priorities of the backup is to keep old apk versions in case you want to roll back...

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So I realized today that TiBu doesn't actually keep multiple copies of the same APK - it is smart enough to know they're the same and save space by only keeping one, no matter how many data backups you have.
However, if you have multiple versions of the APK, it will keep both versions...until the data that was backed up at the same time as the old APK version gets deleted...then the old APK version will be deleted as well.
I sent a support email to the dev of TiBu asking this question...will post here if I get a response.

Thanks, I've used TIBU as long as I have had android phones and still didn't realize that version saving was missing -or that TIBU saves only one copy of each version. It's such s good app..I bet the author will reply and may add that extra functionality...
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markbc01 said:
Thanks, I've used TIBU as long as I have had android phones and still didn't realize that version saving was missing -or that TIBU saves only one copy of each version. It's such s good app..I bet the author will reply and may add that extra functionality...
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I hope so.
Almost 5 days since I emailed them and no response yet.

an idea is to make a special backup to google drive or box or drop box and save a backup there with the configuration you like and leave it there. . .sort of as a safe haven for when the devs update the apps in a way that doesn't do good things for your phone!
not a perfect solution, but at least it does push the app(s) somewhere out of the way in an automated manner. . .
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markbc01 said:
an idea is to make a special backup to google drive or box or drop box and save a backup there with the configuration you like and leave it there. . .sort of as a safe haven for when the devs update the apps in a way that doesn't do good things for your phone!
not a perfect solution, but at least it does push the app(s) somewhere out of the way in an automated manner. . .
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Yeah but there's no "configuration I like". You never know when you're going to update an app and find out later that you want to roll back...

Any update to this Issue?
Could this have Something to do with this option?:
Batch Mode Settings:
Min age (days) For refresh,

[Q] Scheduled Titanium Backup and OBackup GDrive sync fails

Hi Guys,
I didn't find any solution to this problem:
I set up Titanium Backup and Orange Backup to sync with Google Drive automatically after doing their work.
However, in both cases, this doesn't work. TB will give me a notification that synchronization failed. OB will just do the upload, but the file is not present in Google Drive.
When I start those backups manually, i.e. starting the drive sync in TB or starting the upload of the last nandroid in OB, everything works fine.
I've got no idea what's wrong. Might there be some kind of permission that I have to set in GDrive? I didn't find anything, like that, though..
Hope you guys can help.

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Mepsipax said:
Hi Guys,
I didn't find any solution to this problem:
I set up Titanium Backup and Orange Backup to sync with Google Drive automatically after doing their work.
However, in both cases, this doesn't work. TB will give me a notification that synchronization failed. OB will just do the upload, but the file is not present in Google Drive.
When I start those backups manually, i.e. starting the drive sync in TB or starting the upload of the last nandroid in OB, everything works fine.
I've got no idea what's wrong. Might there be some kind of permission that I have to set in GDrive? I didn't find anything, like that, though..
Hope you guys can help.
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did you ever get this to work? Just set mine up and won't authorize... How and where?

imex99 said:
did you ever get this to work? Just set mine up and won't authorize... How and where?
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Nope, I'm sorry, but I haven't. I eventually just set up my own ftp and synced with that.

Restore backup from Nexus 6p

Has anyone figured out how to restore backups created with Google's native way in Nougat (maybe Marshmallow too)? I am coming from a Nexus 6p and I can see in my Google drive that there are backups there from my Nexus. My wife recently had a bootloop on her 5x and it worked beautifully to restore the installed apps and even home screens using the setup wizard.
I found this command to rerun the google setup wizard but it seems LG removed that functionality. Unless I did it wrong. I prepended this commmand with adb shell. That's correct right?
am start -a android.intent.action.MAIN -n com.google.android.setupwizard/.SetupWizardTestActivity

You should already have LG Mobile Switch on your G6. Just download it from the app store to your 6P and you can wirelessly transfer all your apps, photos and settings between the 2 phones.

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You should already have LG Mobile Switch on your G6. Just download it from the app store to your 6P and you can wirelessly transfer all your apps, photos and settings between the 2 phones.
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I had a lot of problems with that way and ended up just installing everything again from the play store. What a pain in the ass. I dont understand if LG uses Google backups why cant I restore from one of them?

robbz23 said:
I had a lot of problems with that way and ended up just installing everything again from the play store. What a pain in the ass. I dont understand if LG uses Google backups why cant I restore from one of them?
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Because Google backups does not backup everything such as app settings unless the app was written to allow that. LG has nothing to do with it. You could have used the stock Android backup but again, not all settings would get restored.

I used Wondershare MobileGo application, backup to PC and restore from PC to new phone.

Copy ALL contacts, text, photos and downloads to another Essential

Getting ready to OTA the official 8.1 from Nougat BUT I am paranoid.
I have two PH-1's so I would like to update the never yet used phone to 8.1 THEN copy all contacts, text, photos and downloads into it from my in use PH-1. After that, I would like to factory reset my used PH-1, update it to 8.1 and then copy my stuff back.
Coming from Samsung to Essential, I lost a lot of file downloads - mostly .pdf's, some photos and some contacts. It took a long time to recover not knowing what was missing until I could not find it and some things are still missing!
Thanks in advance for all suggestions!

That's what the cloud is for my friend. Google Contacts, Drive, and Photos.

Used Google last time. Lots did NOT transfer!

If you're rooted, I love Titanium Backup. I've used it for years now. It will backup anything and everything, then just backup your Titanium folder to your PC. I also have tried SMS Backup+ which will backup your texts and MMS to Google. I will restore texts but will NOT restore MMS (yet. maybe one day.) Contacts should always be available on the cloud as long as you have the settings for it set. (You can check what contacts are saved to the cloud by going here: https://contacts.google.com) Also, if you're using Google's built-in backup services, you can check in settings to see when the last successful backup was done (Or check here: https://drive.google.com/drive/backups. If you change any settings you'll have to wait a while for it to sync again. Hope this helps!

Contacts look good but File Backups only have 5 files. Lots missing!

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Contacts look good but File Backups only have 5 files. Lots missing!
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Do you mean that Google Drive only shows 5 entries named something like "PH-1 backup"? This should be correct -- it stores the entire backup as one entry. What you'll want to check, most importantly, is the date on the right side of each entry. The most current, which would be done 'today' will have the time, instead of a previous date.
I may be wrong, but to me, it seems like some apps just don't backup their data to Google Drive. I know, for instance, my bank app does not seem to remember my login, but I find that to be more secure.. if someone gains access to my Google account, they cant just restore my bank app and get my login handed directly to them. Another thing I've personally noticed is that when you do a fresh install and during setup it asks if you want to restore, the top option is NOT always the most recent backup. I don't know why this is, but I have accidentally restored an older backup while restoring a fresh install. Maybe that's what happened to you last time when things were missing?
If you want to make absolute sure you get everything in a backup, or don't trust Google to get the job done accurately, I still recommend Titanium (I use this, I'm not affiliated.. I just KNOW it works and it works well). Or, you can use any other 3rd party backup utility that you like.
Hope this helps!
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If you want to just make a backup to your PC, you can use ADB to do backups.
adb backup [-f <file>] [-apk|-noapk] [-shared|-noshared] [-all] [-system|nosystem] [<packages...>]
I personally don't use adb for backups because I only backup a few select apps, but I would think that running adb backup with the 'nosystem' argument would provide you with a solid backup. I do NOT know all the ins and outs of using ADB so you'll want to research the correct usage to backup what you want, but I just wanted to add this as a backup option.
I also see no reason you couldn't use adb backup to do exactly what you originally asked... that is backup one PH-1 and restore it to another?

The link to the Backups keeps changing to:
https://drive.google.com/drive/mobile/my-drive
It shows individual files only, no Backups.

Zargone said:
The link to the Backups keeps changing to:
https://drive.google.com/drive/mobile/my-drive
It shows individual files only, no Backups.
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Hmm. I don't have my phone right now so I can't look into it further, but is there not an option somewhere within that (in a dropdown menu maybe?) to view Backups? Alternatively, you could try the Desktop version. Click the 3 dots on the right upper corner of Chrome and select the box that says something about desktop version or desktop view.. something like that.
If all else fails, open the link I shared on an actual computer.