Large System Data Storage Usage - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Storage space is showing only about 8.9 GB available after full wipe/factory reset and upgrade to 4.3. I noticed about 3.5 GB is being taken up in system data. Is this normal? Any remedies that don't require a factory reset?

you have some large games? or did have some large games? lots of music from the google play music app stored offline?

simms22 said:
you have some large games? or did have some large games?
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Not that I'm aware of. I did a full advanced wipe and data format through TWRP prior to 4.3.

pollycranopolis said:
Not that I'm aware of. I did a full advanced wipe and data format through TWRP prior to 4.3.
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there should be a folder called data, but not so large if this is a fresh install. maybe it contains stuff from before the update. open that folder in your storage with a file explorer and look at whats in there.

simms22 said:
there should be a folder called data, but not so large if this is a fresh install. maybe it contains stuff from before the update. open that folder in your storage with a file explorer and look at whats in there.
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Nothing there but a 710byte Titanium backup file.

pollycranopolis said:
Nothing there but a 710byte Titanium backup file.
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yea, i have a lot of apps and such, but my system data is only 743mb. there is something definitely going on there. are you willing to try wiping your storage?

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(Help) Insufficient Storage Error!

I have 500MB left and whenever I'm trying to update/install apps from the Play Story it gives me this error!
I tried clearing the dalvik-cache which is like 450MB but it force closes the whole system and apps!
After rebooting... the dalvik-cache is still there! I'm guessing that it's rewritten itself...
I think dalvik cache rewrites itself after it's wipe
That's Why it takes a long time to boot after dalvik wipe
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allspark2020 said:
I think dalvik cache rewrites itself after it's wipe
That's Why it takes a long time to boot after dalvik wipe
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The real problem is how can I fix the "Insufficient Storage" error??!
xMini said:
I have 500MB left....
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Where do you have only 500mb left? Meaning /data/media or /cache (not /dalvik-cache).
Try going into Setting>Apps> Gallery, Playstore, video player, music player and wiping the Cache there. Gallery is a cache hog, so is Browser and Playstore.
Once you get that cleaned out, you should be able to download something from the market. I suggest Cache Cleaner NG. It is a cache cleaner that you can set to run everyday, week, month. I have mine set to run every morning before I wake up so my tablet is fresh and clean and ready to use.
Woodrube said:
Where do you have only 500mb left? Meaning /data/media or /cache (not /dalvik-cache).
Try going into Setting>Apps> Gallery, Playstore, video player, music player and wiping the Cache there. Gallery is a cache hog, so is Browser and Playstore.
Once you get that cleaned out, you should be able to download something from the market. I suggest Cache Cleaner NG. It is a cache cleaner that you can set to run everyday, week, month. I have mine set to run every morning before I wake up so my tablet is fresh and clean and ready to use.
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I have 500MB left from 16GB (Internal Storage) and for some reason it's 300KB now!
I cleared all the cache from the recovery...
xMini said:
I have 500MB left from 16GB (Internal Storage) and for some reason it's 300KB now!
I cleared all the cache from the recovery...
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happened to me before. reflashed and it fixed. should have use root explorer to check which directory is used.
So now I have 400MB on the internal storage and I've cleared all the cache!
What should I do next?
The error is still there!
I can't even install apps to clean my system!
xMini said:
I cleared all the cache from the recovery...
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Clearing cache from recovery is not the same. Go into those apps and wipe them there.
Also, take look in /data/log and see if anything is in there. I just read about someone yesterday that had 11gb of useless entries in there. If there is anything in that file, just delete it (it isn't needed) and the set the permission to User-R and the rest blank and you would get those files anymore.
If all else fails, just delete something from your internal that you can replace later on from your PC (like some music or video) and that way you'll clear out some space to download a cleaner from the market.
Woodrube said:
Clearing cache from recovery is not the same. Go into those apps and wipe them there.
Also, take look in /data/log and see if anything is in there. I just read about someone yesterday that had 11gb of useless entries in there. If there is anything in that file, just delete it (it isn't needed) and the set the permission to User-R and the rest blank and you would get those files anymore.
If all else fails, just delete something from your internal that you can replace later on from your PC (like some music or video) and that way you'll clear out some space to download a cleaner from the market.
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Yeah... I checked all the apps and cache was deleted!
There's no "log" at all!
Also why would I need to delete something from my internal?
I deleted a lot from downloads...
Your internal and /data/media are the same thing. If you said that your internal is almost full and you are getting the error,....
Woodrube said:
Your internal and /data/media are the same thing. If you said that your internal is almost full and you are getting the error,....
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I know!
But I deleted a lot of stuff! and now I have 400MB!
400MB should be enough to install an 800KB app!
Just trying to troubleshoot here man. Use a file explorer and look around to see if anything sticks out.
Might be time to do a factory reset and clean house (as a last resort) unless someone else has any ideas.
Good luck.
You need to have at least 512MB on your internal memory to be able to instal more programs. There is no fix for that.
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goodoane said:
You need to have at least 512MB on your internal memory to be able to instal more programs. There is no fix for that.
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This might be the answer...
I've deleted a lot of stuff and apps and now I have 1.2GB an I installed couple of apps successfully!
He is correct, 512 is the limit, you will also notice the system slows ALOT after this point, I like to use my MicroSD for alot of things for this reason.
Also glad I read the 'log' tip, I had a 600Mb log just sitting there. X.x
I get this insufficient space error when titanium backup runs a scheduled backup. I have 18gb free and when I manually do a backup it works like a charm. Odd behavior. Sorry, I don't have any suggestions; just wanted to let you know you are not alone.
Thing O Doom said:
He is correct, 512 is the limit, you will also notice the system slows ALOT after this point, I like to use my MicroSD for alot of things for this reason.
Also glad I read the 'log' tip, I had a 600Mb log just sitting there. X.x
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I do use a 16GB microSD BUT the problem is that I have 10GB of apps/games! -_-
Try Apps2SD or a similar app.
I know for sure that the huge amounts of resource files used by games like Shadowgun and GTAIII can be stored on the MicroSD, freeing alot.
haberda said:
I get this insufficient space error when titanium backup runs a scheduled backup. I have 18gb free and when I manually do a backup it works like a charm. Odd behavior.
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Probably /data is on the verge of running out of available inodes, do you have a lot of small files on it?

what happen to the paid app after flashing new rom

Some roms require a full wipe/factory reset before installing. Of course that will delete all apps including the one that I bought. Do I need to buy them again?
Also, will the 'titanium backup' backups the destop settings (i.e., the app shortcuts created on main screen)?
wildcolor said:
Some roms require a full wipe/factory reset before installing. Of course that will delete all apps including the one that I bought. Do I need to buy them again?
Also, will the 'titanium backup' backups the destop settings (i.e., the app shortcuts created on main screen)?
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Some launchers let you backup icon placements and such on the home screen. Also, as long as you use the same Google account you originally bought stuff from Google Play with on your new ROM or any other devic, you can download it again for free. Also Titanium Backup is an incredible app that will backup apps settings as well, so if you are thinking of getting it, go for the paid version, it's worth a least 4 times as much as it costs.
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krion64 said:
Some launchers let you backup icon placements and such on the home screen. Also, as long as you use the same Google account you originally bought stuff from Google Play with on your new ROM or any other devic, you can download it again for free. Also Titanium Backup is an incredible app that will backup apps settings as well, so if you are thinking of getting it, go for the paid version, it's worth a least 4 times as much as it costs.
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Thanks for the reply. I bought TitaniumB already. But, if I do a full wipe, I actually also delete the Titanium app and the file it backuped, didn't I?
wildcolor said:
Thanks for the reply. I bought TitaniumB already. But, if I do a full wipe, I actually also delete the Titanium app and the file it backuped, didn't I?
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Not if you leave the "sdcard" partition alone. You can wipe data and keep that data (which has your TB info) intact. Same goes for any backups/nandroids you performed with TWRP or CWR.
kpjimmy said:
Not if you leave the "sdcard" partition alone. You can wipe data and keep that data (which has your TB info) intact. Same goes for any backups/nandroids you performed with TWRP or CWR.
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It might be a stupid question, but What is TB short for? Also, the Nexus 7 only has one internal 'sdcard', by partition, did you mean that I could set many partitions like what we do under windows (i.e., C: , D: , E: ) ?
TB is titanium backup but I would just use es file explorer or something similar to back up the apps to the sd card
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wildcolor said:
It might be a stupid question, but What is TB short for? Also, the Nexus 7 only has one internal 'sdcard', by partition, did you mean that I could set many partitions like what we do under windows (i.e., C: , D: , E: ) ?
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You can but that's a totally different question/thread/answer. LOL What you want is to just flash a new rom after a wipe and to restore all your apps. It is ok to wipe your device, just do NOT wipe the internal SD card. That will wipe the rom you want to flash and other goodies. Another tip is to create an update.zip of your titanium backup program so that when you first flash your ROM, you can flash the update.zip right after. In Titanium backup, hit menu-"create update.zip". This will place the update.zip (titanium backup program) on your internal SDcard so you can flash it later.
Please delete the update.zip after you have your device up and running to avoid any confusions down the road. You can create the titanium backup "zip" file at any time and takes seconds to do. GL
thanks for all the reply.
I thought a full wipe would delete all user data (apps and all files) and was afraid to try to do the full wipe. Obversly, I was wrong. The wipe doesn't delete everything.
wildcolor said:
thanks for all the reply.
I thought a full wipe would delete all user data (apps and all files) and was afraid to try to do the full wipe. Obversly, I was wrong. The wipe doesn't delete everything.
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Nope the rom's data partition is seperate from the sdcard partition. A regular wipe of the data, cache, dalvic cache, and system doesn't delete the storage (sdcard) partition, they're kept seperate for that reason among others.
You have to actually tell it to wipe the sdcard partition in order to wipe it. Also, note that in recovery, wiping the data and cache partition is sometimes called "factory reset". I know in TWRP recovery it is, not sure about clockwork. If you know you're in recovery, the factory reset is perfectly safe, it only wipes data and cache. It's completely seperate from similar options that are in the rom (in settings) or in the factory bootloader.
When you see us referring to "Make sure you wipe completely" it's probably confusing, but we aren't referring to the sdcard and external storage. We are just referring to what's necessary for a proper rom install, which is data, system, dalvic cache, and cache.
CharliesTheMan said:
It's completely seperate from similar options that are in the rom (in settings) or in the factory bootloader.
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That is exactly what I confused about.
Thanks a lot. Thanks meter added again for the generous reply.

[Q] Wiping all data

I recently moved from AOKP to PACMAN. After flashing pacman successfully all my gallery and media files were still there.
After that I even did factory reset. Still files are there. free space is just 7GB or something.
I had Asphalt 7 installed in AOKP, I believe its still eating huge space in PACMAN.
How can I wipe that data (including old app data and some trash) without damaging ROM installed?
rautandroid said:
I recently moved from AOKP to PACMAN. After flashing pacman successfully all my gallery and media files were still there.
After that I even did factory reset. Still files are there. free space is just 7GB or something.
I had Asphalt 7 installed in AOKP, I believe its still eating huge space in PACMAN.
How can I wipe that data (including old app data and some trash) without damaging ROM installed?
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Have you tried going to settings and uninstall the application?
scream4cheese said:
Have you tried going to settings and uninstall the application?
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I just flashed new rom, so old apps are not showing in Setting/Apps.
Just after flashing ROM, how much space it suppose to consume?
rautandroid said:
I just flashed new rom, so old apps are not showing in Setting/Apps.
Just after flashing ROM, how much space it suppose to consume?
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Did you delete the ROM you just flashed?
scream4cheese said:
Did you delete the ROM you just flashed?
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rom file was 162MB. I deleted that zip file.
I'm just worried about losing so much space.
rautandroid said:
rom file was 162MB. I deleted that zip file.
I'm just worried about losing so much space.
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Asphalt's a Gameloft game right? If so, then you should be able to delete all gameloft data fairly easily by finding the /gameloft folder (should be on the root of your SD) and deleting it. I don't see how it would break anything to do with the ROM, the worst case scenario is just that you lose some game data.
Nigeldg said:
Asphalt's a Gameloft game right? If so, then you should be able to delete all gameloft data fairly easily by finding the /gameloft folder (should be on the root of your SD) and deleting it. I don't see how it would break anything to do with the ROM, the worst case scenario is just that you lose some game data.
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its not about deleting asphalt data, i want to delete all of the data except ROM.
I want to clean my whole storage without touching ROM files.
id say wipe everything and then install the rom from sideload
rautandroid said:
its not about deleting asphalt data, i want to delete all of the data except ROM.
I want to clean my whole storage without touching ROM files.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1982428

[Q] insufficient storage available

I don't know if this has been asked before here...
Every time I try to install an app it gives me an insufficient storage available error.
In settings it shows that i have well over 2gig free space. I have tried wiping cache dalvik etc and nothing has worked. Please help!
zphantom55 said:
I don't know if this has been asked before here...
Every time I try to install an app it gives me an insufficient storage available error.
In settings it shows that i have well over 2gig free space. I have tried wiping cache dalvik etc and nothing has worked. Please help!
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Your system partition is full. You need to delete apps and whatever else gets stored in system folder. If you use titanium backup....I think it keeps backups of old apps....you gotta go into titanium backup and delete the backups of apps you use. Some large games may store data in system too.
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kj2112 said:
Your system partition is full. You need to delete apps and whatever else gets stored in system folder. If you use titanium backup....I think it keeps backups of old apps....you gotta go into titanium backup and delete the backups of apps you use. Some large games may store data in system too.
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Thanks I thought apps from the play store were all stored in /data

[Q] Internal memory leak?

So I've been looking around and trying to fix this problem myself but I've had no luck. I've almost completely run out of internal memory. I'm not sure if its a memory leak or what but its starting to affect my phone's ability to update apps. Currently, of the 16gb I have <800mb left but it used to be as low as ~50mb.
At first I tried just moving every app I could to my SD card, and I already transfer and delete every picture and video I have on my phone asap. So afterwards I wiped cache a few times. Finally I completely wiped and reset my phone to stock and still only freed up 1gb of space. I then flashed the negalite ROM. With this new rom and the core set of apps I use, all moved to the SD card, I have 829mb of internal memory free.
I understand that I really only have 8gb to play around with, but this screencap shows that I have 7gb being taken up by miscellaneous files, yet when I check what's in there it does not add up to 7gb (nothing below those files goes above a few hundred kb tops). Is there any way to free up more memory without deleting literally every app I have? I don't think I even have that many frivolous apps.
So to summarize, my phone is a sprint s4 SPH-L720 with 4.4.2 running the Negalite rom, with only 800mb/16gb internal free, trying to free up more. Not sure if its a memory leak or what.
Do you have any nandroid backups with either philz,cwm, or twrp recovery? If so those are about 3-5gbs each.
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Using a file manager that can show hidden files (ES can) look around and see if you see any folder named something like lost.dir or lost+found it might be that some deleted items were sent or left their instead of going into oblivion. I have had it occur before, after deleting the contents it freed up several 100s of MB to GB of memory.
It's possible it could be this.
daniel4653 said:
Do you have any nandroid backups with either philz,cwm, or twrp recovery? If so those are about 3-5gbs each.
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Hm I just went through the CWM folder and deleted some old backups supposedly but those were only like 9mb big... The mysteries keep mounting!
And catfood I tried looking through the files with file explorer but I couldn't find a lost or a variation of it.
Thanks for the replies though every little bit helps!
pinoysw1mmer said:
Hm I just went through the CWM folder and deleted some old backups supposedly but those were only like 9mb big... The mysteries keep mounting!
And catfood I tried looking through the files with file explorer but I couldn't find a lost or a variation of it.
Thanks for the replies though every little bit helps!
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Do you have any cloud apps like Google Drive or something of the like? Try checking sync options, or the programs settings, something might be downloading data to cache offline.
Backup your data!
Install philz_touch_6.19.6-jflte recovery
then go to Mount and Storage Menu
do a format for{ system, cache, date and(( /data and /data/media ( /sdcard)))
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Backup your data!
Install philz_touch_6.19.6-jflte recovery
then go to Mount and Storage Menu
do a format for{ system, cache, date and(( /data and /data/media ( /sdcard)))
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Do I have to install that one or can I just use CWM?
And catfood I will check my cloud settings.
pinoysw1mmer said:
Do I have to install that one or can I just use CWM?
And catfood I will check my cloud settings.
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I don't know but I used that recovery and it works for me.

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